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What works against a wood fire is that it takes a pretty big fire and you
can't control the air so it waste a lot of heat. Melting a couple of tons
of lead is hot enough and skimming the dross without melting yourself can be
a real challenge.

The old guys casting ballast would rig a big iron pot beside the mold and
build a fire under it. When the pot was ready they knocked out a plug and
let her rip. That is fine for simple ballast but if you are casting a fin
you need to remove the dross to prevent weakening inclusions and more
control over the pour which means you have to get close to the pot.. I
would not have attempted my pour with a wood fire.

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"Dave W" wrote in message
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There is a very good description of the process in BOATBUILDING by Howard
Chapelle. Wood as fuel to melt lead is entirely satisfactory, it has been
used for years. Beware of using concrete blocks to support the tub;
firebrick is much better as suggested above. If you really want to cast a
keel larger than a bathtub can hold, finding a foundry may be a good
(safe) alternative.



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I like the Idea of using Propane Burners! There are some good examples
on The Backyard meatelcastimg web site. Glenn how much air { CFM]
do you think you where moving through the Burners? And what size
orifice ? Can you give me a more detailed deception of the Burner set
up? Thank You CW

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My burners, starting from the business end, are a 1"x 1 1/2" female reducer
on the end of a 12" piece of 1 1/2" galvanized pipe. Then a Tee, 6" more
inches of pipe and a floor flange that the blower mounts to. The reducer
on the front end has four 1/8" holes drilled around the shoulder for a
little gas/air mix to leak out and make small stabilizing flames around the
main opening. A piece of 2" conduit slips over it to shield the little
flames. The side port of the Tee is bushed down to 1/4" with the threads
drilled out so a 1/4" nipple can be pushed through until the inside end is
just shy of the middle of the main pipe. It needs to be a pretty tight fit
so put a pipe cap on the end to protect the threads and hammer it in. The
gas hose fits to the other end.

I drove a couple of pipes into the ground at the drain end of the tub and
mounted the burners on them with a block of wood and U-bolts.

I already had the blowers salvaged from the solar wood kiln. They came
from Grainger
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg...mId=1611663777
They put out 60CFM but I ran them with the intake about half covered. You
have to adjust the propane regulator and the blower intake so the flame is a
loud steady roar. If the flame pulses or blows out you have to much air.
If it turns yellow you have to much gas for the air. Start with a clean
blue flame and gradually increase the gas until the flame gets a yellow edge
then open the air a little and slowly increase the gas until you see the
yellow again. Keep doing that until the flame starts pulsing and then turn
everything down a notch until it stabilizes.

Now start slowly closing up the vents on the other end of the tub until you
feel hot air coming back out around the burners and then open them up
slightly. Check the flame again and adjust so there is no yellow. Now you
have the burners working at their maximum output and only enough air needed
for combustion entering he firebox.

You might get by with a single burner but I melted 4,000 pounds in a little
over 90 minutes using two. I also had a couple of sheets of mineral fiber
cloth salvaged from a closed neon sign shop that I covered the tub with to
try and keep the heat in. It seems to have helped a little. You can also
use it to cover any openings in the sides to help control air flow. You
might be able to bum some used cloth from a neon shop. They use it to
sketch out tube designs and form the tubes on it. Once it gets to scorched
up they throw it out.

One more trick. Cut a fresh straight green stick about 1" thick off of a
nearby bush. Crape Myrtle is ideal. Strip the branches and leaves but
leave the bark. When the melt is about ready, stir it with the stick and
the stick will start to "sing". As the moisture in the wood boils out in
little microburst it sets up ultrasonic vibrations in the molten lead and
the dross will magically rise to the top so you can skim it off.

Needless to say the mold must be ABSOLUTELY DRY and ALWAYS remember, pilot
fire first, then blower and finally gas.


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Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

"Hess cutter 56" wrote in message
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I like the Idea of using Propane Burners! There are some good examples
on The Backyard meatelcastimg web site. Glenn how much air { CFM]
do you think you where moving through the Burners? And what size
orifice ? Can you give me a more detailed deception of the Burner set
up? Thank You CW



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Another alternative is to use a burner (or perhaps two for a big job)
from an oil furnace as a heat source. I bought three for $10 at a
country auction- lots of spares. You will have the blower/fuel pump
situation already worked out and the fuel is more compact and easier to
handle than propane. If you are pouring a substantial keel (mine was a
traditional-shaped 4200 pounder) it might be worthwhile to have a
melter welded up from steel plate. Then you can incorporate legs, etc
in the design. One of the early WoodenBoat mags had some details.
You might also want to have an oxy-acetylene torch on hand to preheat
the various spouts and pipe to make sure you don't get lead freezing
enroute to your mold.

Best to keep the whole operation quiet as the neighbours are apt to get
upset and blame their kid's defects on your lead project!

John

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Glenn Ashmore
 
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A second hand oil burner would be excellent if you can find one. Down here
in Georgia though they are hard to come by because everyone heats with gas
or electricity.

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Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com




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