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Parallax May 22nd 04 04:12 PM

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For Bookie B. You sure do things the hard way. Do ALL calculations
in metric and then convert to english units in the end. This avoids
the craziness of converting ounces to pounds and feet to furlongs etc.
snip

The 55% heavier I came up with is close enough to your 60% as makes no
odds, so I didn't screw up completely (or else we both did :-).

Yep, use Metric units all the time, esp. since even I can divide and
multiply by 10/100/1000 without too many mistakes.

In this group though, I think most readers are from the US,
and are more familiar with Imperial/US units, so that's what I try and
use.

Regards,

bookieb.


OOOps, my metric tirade swhut down my brain. I mean 1 watt
=1Joule/sec and I meant Mt/FN.


Made my first sail. I am glad I used visqueen because the first
attempt was botched. Yielded a serviceable "back-up" sail but I will
make another.



LAUNCH OF #1 TOMMOROW.

Parallax May 24th 04 02:11 AM

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For Bookie B. You sure do things the hard way. Do ALL calculations
in metric and then convert to english units in the end. This avoids
the craziness of converting ounces to pounds and feet to furlongs etc.
snip

The 55% heavier I came up with is close enough to your 60% as makes no
odds, so I didn't screw up completely (or else we both did :-).

Yep, use Metric units all the time, esp. since even I can divide and
multiply by 10/100/1000 without too many mistakes.

In this group though, I think most readers are from the US,
and are more familiar with Imperial/US units, so that's what I try and
use.

Regards,

bookieb.

OOOps, my metric tirade swhut down my brain. I mean 1 watt
=1Joule/sec and I meant Mt/FN.


Made my first sail. I am glad I used visqueen because the first
attempt was botched. Yielded a serviceable "back-up" sail but I will
make another.



LAUNCH OF #1 TOMMOROW.


SUCCESS!!!

Put her on the top of my truck (not a practical means of transport)
and hauled her to Shell Pt, FL, south of Tallahassee. Had 15 kts of
wind and rigging while in chop and wind was difficult but got it done.
Sail kept slipping down the gaff and boom so really had only about
2/3 sail but SHE FLIES. Tacks well, handles well, really great.
Slight prob is that the tiller keeps coming out of the box. Tiller
and rudder box seem a little wimpy as they were both bending under the
load. Christened her as "Tadpole" and she really swims. She does
sorta need coamings as water does come over the bow in chop but I had
a bailer handy.
My 13 yr old son took her out and had problems as he really didnt
understand "jibing" and turned her over twice. I found that standing
on the daggerboard will right her slowly. He eventually learned how to
jibe and to sail her through a tack and he was seriously impressed.
Got the sail adjusted better and my wife and I took her out and she
handles beautifully. Shell Pt has lots of oysters on the shore so she
did get a little banged up as expected but it was worth it.
She did get a little water in her fwd compartment somehow so I will
have to drill holes.
Carrying her to and from the water was a problem so I will have to
build a cart and I also need a trailer for her and #2
I am very impressed.

Andrew Butchart May 24th 04 05:55 PM

Stevenson Minicup
 
"Parallax" wrote in message
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SUCCESS!!!

Put her on the top of my truck (not a practical means of transport)
and hauled her to Shell Pt, FL, south of Tallahassee. Had 15 kts of
wind and rigging while in chop and wind was difficult but got it done.
Sail kept slipping down the gaff and boom so really had only about
2/3 sail but SHE FLIES. Tacks well, handles well, really great.
Slight prob is that the tiller keeps coming out of the box. Tiller
and rudder box seem a little wimpy as they were both bending under the
load. Christened her as "Tadpole" and she really swims. She does
sorta need coamings as water does come over the bow in chop but I had
a bailer handy.
My 13 yr old son took her out and had problems as he really didnt
understand "jibing" and turned her over twice. I found that standing
on the daggerboard will right her slowly. He eventually learned how to
jibe and to sail her through a tack and he was seriously impressed.
Got the sail adjusted better and my wife and I took her out and she
handles beautifully. Shell Pt has lots of oysters on the shore so she
did get a little banged up as expected but it was worth it.
She did get a little water in her fwd compartment somehow so I will
have to drill holes.
Carrying her to and from the water was a problem so I will have to
build a cart and I also need a trailer for her and #2
I am very impressed.


Congratulations! You've built that boat in an amazingly short time and
should be proud of your accomplishments. I agree about the tiller and
rudder box, that's one of the reasons I re-built mine.

BTW - for transporting the boat from my Jeep to the water, I built a small
dolly out of PVC pipe and it's worked quite well for me - there's some
pictures on my web-site if you're interested.

--
Andrew Butchart

http://www.floatingbear.ca



____m___~¿Ô___m____ May 25th 04 01:01 AM

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For Bookie B. You sure do things the hard way. Do ALL
calculations
in metric and then convert to english units in the end. This
avoids the craziness of converting ounces to pounds and feet to
furlongs etc.
snip

The 55% heavier I came up with is close enough to your 60% as makes
no odds, so I didn't screw up completely (or else we both did :-).

Yep, use Metric units all the time, esp. since even I can divide
and multiply by 10/100/1000 without too many mistakes.

In this group though, I think most readers are from the US,
and are more familiar with Imperial/US units, so that's what I try
and use.

Regards,

bookieb.

OOOps, my metric tirade swhut down my brain. I mean 1 watt
=1Joule/sec and I meant Mt/FN.

Made my first sail. I am glad I used visqueen because the first
attempt was botched. Yielded a serviceable "back-up" sail but I will
make another.



LAUNCH OF #1 TOMMOROW.


SUCCESS!!!

Put her on the top of my truck (not a practical means of transport)
and hauled her to Shell Pt, FL, south of Tallahassee. Had 15 kts of
wind and rigging while in chop and wind was difficult but got it done.
Sail kept slipping down the gaff and boom so really had only about
2/3 sail but SHE FLIES. Tacks well, handles well, really great.
Slight prob is that the tiller keeps coming out of the box. Tiller
and rudder box seem a little wimpy as they were both bending under the
load. Christened her as "Tadpole" and she really swims. She does
sorta need coamings as water does come over the bow in chop but I had
a bailer handy.
My 13 yr old son took her out and had problems as he really didnt
understand "jibing" and turned her over twice. I found that standing
on the daggerboard will right her slowly. He eventually learned how to
jibe and to sail her through a tack and he was seriously impressed.
Got the sail adjusted better and my wife and I took her out and she
handles beautifully. Shell Pt has lots of oysters on the shore so she
did get a little banged up as expected but it was worth it.
She did get a little water in her fwd compartment somehow so I will
have to drill holes.
Carrying her to and from the water was a problem so I will have to
build a cart and I also need a trailer for her and #2
I am very impressed.


Thanks for sharing your build process. It's been a great post that I have
looked forward to reading.
--
_______m___õ¿~___m_________________________
"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take,
but by the moments that take our breath away".
--George Carlin--


Parallax May 25th 04 02:51 AM

Stevenson Minicup
 
"Andrew Butchart" wrote in message . ..
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SUCCESS!!!

Put her on the top of my truck (not a practical means of transport)
and hauled her to Shell Pt, FL, south of Tallahassee. Had 15 kts of
wind and rigging while in chop and wind was difficult but got it done.
Sail kept slipping down the gaff and boom so really had only about
2/3 sail but SHE FLIES. Tacks well, handles well, really great.
Slight prob is that the tiller keeps coming out of the box. Tiller
and rudder box seem a little wimpy as they were both bending under the
load. Christened her as "Tadpole" and she really swims. She does
sorta need coamings as water does come over the bow in chop but I had
a bailer handy.
My 13 yr old son took her out and had problems as he really didnt
understand "jibing" and turned her over twice. I found that standing
on the daggerboard will right her slowly. He eventually learned how to
jibe and to sail her through a tack and he was seriously impressed.
Got the sail adjusted better and my wife and I took her out and she
handles beautifully. Shell Pt has lots of oysters on the shore so she
did get a little banged up as expected but it was worth it.
She did get a little water in her fwd compartment somehow so I will
have to drill holes.
Carrying her to and from the water was a problem so I will have to
build a cart and I also need a trailer for her and #2
I am very impressed.


Congratulations! You've built that boat in an amazingly short time and
should be proud of your accomplishments. I agree about the tiller and
rudder box, that's one of the reasons I re-built mine.

BTW - for transporting the boat from my Jeep to the water, I built a small
dolly out of PVC pipe and it's worked quite well for me - there's some
pictures on my web-site if you're interested.



Thanks Andrew. I'll have to check over your web site again for the
dolly. Once again, I thank you for your help and posting the plans.
Gawd was it fun. I'll try to get some pics this next weekend at St.
Joseph State park on the coast. I think I will use a small bungee
wrapped round the tiller and box extension to hold the tiller down but
still allow it to "kick up".

More ppl should do this. If I can build a boat, anybody can.
Glued the sides on #2.

Parallax May 25th 04 03:23 PM

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For Bookie B. You sure do things the hard way. Do ALL
calculations
in metric and then convert to english units in the end. This
avoids the craziness of converting ounces to pounds and feet to
furlongs etc.
snip

The 55% heavier I came up with is close enough to your 60% as makes
no odds, so I didn't screw up completely (or else we both did :-).

Yep, use Metric units all the time, esp. since even I can divide
and multiply by 10/100/1000 without too many mistakes.

In this group though, I think most readers are from the US,
and are more familiar with Imperial/US units, so that's what I try
and use.

Regards,

bookieb.

OOOps, my metric tirade swhut down my brain. I mean 1 watt
=1Joule/sec and I meant Mt/FN.

Made my first sail. I am glad I used visqueen because the first
attempt was botched. Yielded a serviceable "back-up" sail but I will
make another.


LAUNCH OF #1 TOMMOROW.


SUCCESS!!!

Put her on the top of my truck (not a practical means of transport)
and hauled her to Shell Pt, FL, south of Tallahassee. Had 15 kts of
wind and rigging while in chop and wind was difficult but got it done.
Sail kept slipping down the gaff and boom so really had only about
2/3 sail but SHE FLIES. Tacks well, handles well, really great.
Slight prob is that the tiller keeps coming out of the box. Tiller
and rudder box seem a little wimpy as they were both bending under the
load. Christened her as "Tadpole" and she really swims. She does
sorta need coamings as water does come over the bow in chop but I had
a bailer handy.
My 13 yr old son took her out and had problems as he really didnt
understand "jibing" and turned her over twice. I found that standing
on the daggerboard will right her slowly. He eventually learned how to
jibe and to sail her through a tack and he was seriously impressed.
Got the sail adjusted better and my wife and I took her out and she
handles beautifully. Shell Pt has lots of oysters on the shore so she
did get a little banged up as expected but it was worth it.
She did get a little water in her fwd compartment somehow so I will
have to drill holes.
Carrying her to and from the water was a problem so I will have to
build a cart and I also need a trailer for her and #2
I am very impressed.


Thanks for sharing your build process. It's been a great post that I have
looked forward to reading.



I will try to get some pics this next weekend.

Parallax May 25th 04 03:28 PM

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BTW, I used the 1/8" wall X 2" OD material for the mast but used .050"
wall X 2" for the gaff and boom. Seems to work well.

Andrew Butchart May 25th 04 06:29 PM

Stevenson Minicup
 
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I will try to get some pics this next weekend.


When you get your pictures you might want to email them to Stevenson
Projects - they have a web site that they (eventually) will post them
to. And since the plans come from them, they like to hear about
successful launches.

Andrew Butchart


bookieb May 26th 04 04:19 PM

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SUCCESS!!!

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Congratulations!
Gotta be some kind of speed record for the build too...

Enjoy!

Regards,

Bookieb.

Parallax May 28th 04 04:43 AM

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BTW, I used the 1/8" wall X 2" OD material for the mast but used .050"
wall X 2" for the gaff and boom. Seems to work well.



Got transom installed on #2.

BTW, instead of using duct tape for my sail, I used the double sided
glass reinforced carpet tape at the seams. Since the adhesive surface
area is larger, it should hold better. I used single sided glass
reinforced carpet tape to reinforce high stress areas such as around
the pulleys on the boom.


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