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keith May 7th 04 12:53 AM

D4 dinghy epoxy quantity
 
Hi,

I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.

Keith

Matt Langenfeld May 7th 04 03:00 AM

D4 dinghy epoxy quantity
 
1.5 gallons should be plenty

--
Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
http://jem.e-boat.net/


keith wrote:
Hi,

I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.

Keith



Backyard Renegade May 7th 04 02:37 PM

D4 dinghy epoxy quantity
 
keith wrote in message . ..
Hi,

I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.

Keith


It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
don't really know the answer;)
Scotty

keith May 7th 04 08:35 PM

D4 dinghy epoxy quantity
 
Thank you for your help

Keith

On 7 May 2004 06:37:48 -0700, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

keith wrote in message . ..
Hi,

I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.

Keith


It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
don't really know the answer;)
Scotty



Rick Tyler May 8th 04 07:37 AM

D4 dinghy epoxy quantity
 
On 7 May 2004 06:37:48 -0700, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

keith wrote in message . ..
I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.


It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
don't really know the answer;)


Remember that Scotty is a very experienced builder. I used more than
a gallon on my 8-foot dinghy. The designer of that boat recommends
1.5 gallons for a first-time builder.

Have fun!

- Rick Tyler
--
"Ignorant voracity -- a wingless vulture -- can soar only into the
depths of ignominy." Patrick O'Brian

Backyard Renegade May 8th 04 03:13 PM

D4 dinghy epoxy quantity
 
Rick Tyler wrote in message . ..
On 7 May 2004 06:37:48 -0700, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

keith wrote in message . ..
I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.

It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
don't really know the answer;)


Remember that Scotty is a very experienced builder. I used more than
a gallon on my 8-foot dinghy. The designer of that boat recommends
1.5 gallons for a first-time builder.

Have fun!

- Rick Tyler


You are correct, sometimes I forget. I guess with the sail rig and
such, you could use that much. Probably best for a newbie to listen to
Matt, and Rick, and the designer.
Scotty

Backyard Renegade May 10th 04 03:36 PM

D4 dinghy epoxy quantity
 
Rick Tyler wrote in message . ..
On 7 May 2004 06:37:48 -0700, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

keith wrote in message . ..
I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.

It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
don't really know the answer;)


Remember that Scotty is a very experienced builder. I used more than
a gallon on my 8-foot dinghy. The designer of that boat recommends
1.5 gallons for a first-time builder.

Have fun!

- Rick Tyler



My dad always says I only open my mouth to change feet! Anyway, since
I opened my mouth I should add this.
One of the biggest problems a newbie has is trusting this flimsy 6mm
and thin battens, especially during the initial building process
before the project takes it's structure. This usually results in the
builder putting in larger/heavier fillets and using more glue than the
origional plan calls for. Remember, the designer has designed a vessel
that will suit the need when completed, many of these smaller boats,
especially s+t boats do not get structure until very late in the build
when the gunnels, quarterknees, keel, seats and such get finalized.
Before that, these boats are just scarey, like working with a big
piece of newspaper, often I joke with customers, "you don't want to
see your boat until it's done". I have also seen many think, 6mm may
be good, but I will use 9mm... Hummmmm? If you don't trust the
designer or the plan, you are building the wrong boat, Anyway, my
point is, trust the designer if he says 3/8" filletts, don't make em'
heavy.
Another mistake newbies make while we are at it is trying to make a
boat look and act like a boat, before it is a boat. What I mean here
is getting ahead of yourself can cost you time and material. To be
more to the point what I am talking about here is sanding and
finishing parts before their time. Any part that will be difficult to
reach after construction can be sanded ahead of time, but I never sand
anything until I am ready to finish it. Why? Easy. I don't want to
sand twice, or sand through the laminates if using plywood cause you
will nick it again before the end of the build and have to sand it
again. This can result in extra work, and of course if you nick
something that is already sanded to shape, you will have to take it
down further to get the nick out you just made turning the hull or
dropping a tool or paint! Leave a little extra on pieces when possible
until it it time to make it look like a boat.
Anyway, I hope I have redeemed myself for the assumption that a newbie
will be as kind to a pot of goo as I.
Later, Scotty from............ Ahhhh, still can't do it... Working on
three beautiful boats now, hoping to have a nice summer. Been catching
some good fish so far too. Later.

keith May 11th 04 11:56 AM

D4 dinghy epoxy quantity
 
Thanks,

Sme valuable advice from all of you. I can't wait to get started.

Keith

On 10 May 2004 07:36:40 -0700, (Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

Rick Tyler wrote in message . ..
On 7 May 2004 06:37:48 -0700,
(Backyard
Renegade) wrote:

keith wrote in message . ..
I have the free plans to build a D4 dinghy, but roughly how much epoxy
do I need for the project? Thanks in advance.

It really depends on how careful you are with it. The D4 could
probably be built with about 3/4 to one gallon of goo. If you take a
gallon and a half you are building way too heavy, I have built several
of these, am building one right now, I rarely answer questions if I
don't really know the answer;)


Remember that Scotty is a very experienced builder. I used more than
a gallon on my 8-foot dinghy. The designer of that boat recommends
1.5 gallons for a first-time builder.

Have fun!

- Rick Tyler



My dad always says I only open my mouth to change feet! Anyway, since
I opened my mouth I should add this.
One of the biggest problems a newbie has is trusting this flimsy 6mm
and thin battens, especially during the initial building process
before the project takes it's structure. This usually results in the
builder putting in larger/heavier fillets and using more glue than the
origional plan calls for. Remember, the designer has designed a vessel
that will suit the need when completed, many of these smaller boats,
especially s+t boats do not get structure until very late in the build
when the gunnels, quarterknees, keel, seats and such get finalized.
Before that, these boats are just scarey, like working with a big
piece of newspaper, often I joke with customers, "you don't want to
see your boat until it's done". I have also seen many think, 6mm may
be good, but I will use 9mm... Hummmmm? If you don't trust the
designer or the plan, you are building the wrong boat, Anyway, my
point is, trust the designer if he says 3/8" filletts, don't make em'
heavy.
Another mistake newbies make while we are at it is trying to make a
boat look and act like a boat, before it is a boat. What I mean here
is getting ahead of yourself can cost you time and material. To be
more to the point what I am talking about here is sanding and
finishing parts before their time. Any part that will be difficult to
reach after construction can be sanded ahead of time, but I never sand
anything until I am ready to finish it. Why? Easy. I don't want to
sand twice, or sand through the laminates if using plywood cause you
will nick it again before the end of the build and have to sand it
again. This can result in extra work, and of course if you nick
something that is already sanded to shape, you will have to take it
down further to get the nick out you just made turning the hull or
dropping a tool or paint! Leave a little extra on pieces when possible
until it it time to make it look like a boat.
Anyway, I hope I have redeemed myself for the assumption that a newbie
will be as kind to a pot of goo as I.
Later, Scotty from............ Ahhhh, still can't do it... Working on
three beautiful boats now, hoping to have a nice summer. Been catching
some good fish so far too. Later.




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