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removing gasoline and fumes from bilge
Most welders will not weld any tank that has ever held gasoline. Could be a
big clue here! "terry" wrote in message ... washing and letting it vent will probably not work. BE SURE TO INFORM SERVICE PERSONAL OF THE FORMER PRESENCE OF GASOLINE. Otherwise you may face a costly lawsuit for wrongful death. Only way to weld it is to leave it filled with water which will displace any air needed to create an explosion. |
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It just takes care. If you can, you wash out the tank. Regardless, you
purge it with air for many hours to guarantee it is dry. You fill the tank with inert gas such as argon, then weld. Same process if you weld tanks of unknown condition or which had unknown contents. Welders do it all the time. Brian -- http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass -- My 22' Tolman Skiff project http://www.advantagecomposites.com/catalog -- Discounted System Three Resins products "Dave W" wrote in message ... Most welders will not weld any tank that has ever held gasoline. Could be a big clue here! "terry" wrote in message ... washing and letting it vent will probably not work. BE SURE TO INFORM SERVICE PERSONAL OF THE FORMER PRESENCE OF GASOLINE. Otherwise you may face a costly lawsuit for wrongful death. Only way to weld it is to leave it filled with water which will displace any air needed to create an explosion. |
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"Brian D" wrote in message news:9Qmfc.39212$wP1.153766@attbi_s54... It just takes care. If you can, you wash out the tank. Regardless, you purge it with air for many hours to guarantee it is dry. You fill the tank with inert gas such as argon, then weld. Same process if you weld tanks of unknown condition or which had unknown contents. Welders do it all the time. Once the tank is inerted, I would still be concerned about the residual gas fumes in the bilges. An area where you can properly perge or inert. If it doubt, or you can't test it before welding, then the tank should be removed from the boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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Steve wrote:
"Brian D" wrote in message news:9Qmfc.39212$wP1.153766@attbi_s54... It just takes care. If you can, you wash out the tank. Regardless, you purge it with air for many hours to guarantee it is dry. You fill the tank with inert gas such as argon, then weld. Same process if you weld tanks of unknown condition or which had unknown contents. Welders do it all the time. Once the tank is inerted, I would still be concerned about the residual gas fumes in the bilges. An area where you can properly perge or inert. If it doubt, or you can't test it before welding, then the tank should be removed from the boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions why not inert those areas as well? -- A significant part of courage is realizing that only you need to know how terrified you are.. |
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"dazed and confuzed" wrote in message ... why not inert those areas as well? The problem would be to effeciently purge and then keep the inert gas in the area. Most all effective inert gases are lighter than air and would be lost as fast as you could pump it in. Steve |
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You're right. I was assuming the tank is out of the boat and in a shop.
-- http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass -- My 22' Tolman Skiff project http://www.advantagecomposites.com/catalog -- Discounted System Three Resins products .. "Steve" wrote in message ... "Brian D" wrote in message news:9Qmfc.39212$wP1.153766@attbi_s54... It just takes care. If you can, you wash out the tank. Regardless, you purge it with air for many hours to guarantee it is dry. You fill the tank with inert gas such as argon, then weld. Same process if you weld tanks of unknown condition or which had unknown contents. Welders do it all the time. Once the tank is inerted, I would still be concerned about the residual gas fumes in the bilges. An area where you can properly perge or inert. If it doubt, or you can't test it before welding, then the tank should be removed from the boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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removing gasoline and fumes from bilge
The inert gas can blow away and if fuel is still sitting around, then it's
still creating fumes and can ignite itself too. Unless it can't be done, I'd take the tank out and put it in a shop to weld. But where there's a will, there's a way. Once the tank is empty and purging, the boat can be purged also. We used to purge aircraft tanks for up to a week before working on them, and even then we'd enter the tank with a fumes tester that checked the air to see if there was jet fuel or gas fumes floating around. Brian -- http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass -- My 22' Tolman Skiff project http://www.advantagecomposites.com/catalog -- Discounted System Three Resins products .. "dazed and confuzed" wrote in message ... Steve wrote: "Brian D" wrote in message news:9Qmfc.39212$wP1.153766@attbi_s54... It just takes care. If you can, you wash out the tank. Regardless, you purge it with air for many hours to guarantee it is dry. You fill the tank with inert gas such as argon, then weld. Same process if you weld tanks of unknown condition or which had unknown contents. Welders do it all the time. Once the tank is inerted, I would still be concerned about the residual gas fumes in the bilges. An area where you can properly perge or inert. If it doubt, or you can't test it before welding, then the tank should be removed from the boat. Steve s/v Good Intentions why not inert those areas as well? -- A significant part of courage is realizing that only you need to know how terrified you are.. |
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Steve wrote:
"dazed and confuzed" wrote in message ... why not inert those areas as well? The problem would be to effeciently purge and then keep the inert gas in the area. Most all effective inert gases are lighter than air and would be lost as fast as you could pump it in. Steve co2 is heavier than air, Argon or nitrogen are cheap. Just let it flood the area while you are working....For the time needed to do the cutting or welding, the losses are negligible. -- A significant part of courage is realizing that only you need to know how terrified you are.. |
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On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:54:49 -0500, dazed and confuzed
vaguely proposed a theory .......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email ...and from this we should take advice on welding petrol-laden areas? G. -- A significant part of courage is realizing that only you need to know how terrified you are.. ************************************************** ** I went on a guided tour not long ago.The guide got us lost. He was a non-compass mentor.........sorry .........no I'm not. |
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Old Nick wrote:
On Thu, 15 Apr 2004 21:54:49 -0500, dazed and confuzed vaguely proposed a theory ......and in reply I say!: remove ns from my header address to reply via email ..and from this we should take advice on welding petrol-laden areas? G. -- A significant part of courage is realizing that only you need to know how terrified you are.. ************************************************** ** I went on a guided tour not long ago.The guide got us lost. He was a non-compass mentor.........sorry ........no I'm not. ;-) -- A significant part of courage is realizing that only you need to know how terrified you are.. |
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