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Brian D wrote:
When our government QUITs letting illegal people remain here and QUITs
letting more in, and QUITs giving tax breaks to corporations moving
operations overseas and STARTs imposing high excise taxes on import ...THEN
you'll see American speaking English and working American jobs.


Sure, then all the cheap products and services we've gotten used to will
disappear or increase dramatically in price, so your higher wages won't
buy you a damn thing. It's nice to sling simple answers around, but the
economy is far too complex for them to be useful. All this whining about
"outsourcing" and "offshoring" is nothing but a huge red herring. This
is nothing new (it's been going on for decades) and it accounts for only
~10% of the job losses we've suffered. The only difference now is in the
types of jobs that are going overseas. It used to be only blue-collar
manufacturing jobs, but now that it's white-collar tech and service jobs
too, people are getting all worked up over it.

If we continue to demand cheap products and services - something that
isn't likely to change - the trend to move jobs offshore will continue
too. Protectionism has never worked, it never will and it's not the
answer. Whether you like the global economy or not, it's reality. We all
have to live with it and adapt to it. The key to improving the job
market is to get the economy rolling again, but that takes time. The
indications are good, but it's not going to happen overnight, no matter
how much we complain or who's running the country.

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Brian D wrote:

We consume the most and have the most leverage.


Therin lies a big part of the problem. We can't be both the biggest
consumer and the biggest exporter. We over-consume and end up having to
live with a huge trade deficit. It's our own fault.

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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:34:06 +0100, "John Smith"
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Have the same problem in England, Had to report a fault on a telephone a few
weeks ago, I'm sure the call went to India.
As other posters have said, if you removed or reduced welfare payments there
would be a lot more 'willing' workers available.


Yes. But it's never this simple, dammit!

One of those workers may be able to take _your_ job, for less
pay....and ;ess pay...and less pay.
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 12:24:32 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
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Larry W4CSC wrote:

I've had to learn two new languages, here in Charleston,
SC.....Spanish, so I can communicate on the street....and Hindi so I
can communicate on the phone.


The thing is Larry, all the rest of us have to learn a new language just
to go to Charleston. :-)


Now, that's not quite true! Geechees have to learn a new language
just to go to the state capital. No wonder they don't think
Charleston is part of South Carolina...hee hee.

Tell you what, we'll start our own reality show. I'll put you in a
car and drive you out to Rockville on the end of Wadmalaw Island, just
south of The City. We'll set a time limit, say 3 weeks, and see if
you can communicate in SC Coastal Gullah that you'd like to come back
to town. Should be very interesting! I fix the church organs out on
the outer islands for the United Methodists, African
Methodist-Episcopal (AME) and Baptists. I already speak Gullah,
Geechee and English. Why do I have to learn more languages??

If we'd had any sense, we'd have let the Gullah speakers take over
secure communications in WW2, as well as the Navahos. The Germans
would have stood no chance at all of reading our secure message
traffic.................and noone would have needed a code book...(c;



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Do you know that your fed and state tax dollars help pay for illegal aliens?
A west Texas study estimated the cost to the county just for medical was
5400 per person, for the 8 children of one illegal alien. They didn't
figure on his wife also collecting welfare, their kids getting education,
and the other social costs like legal/criminal. Oh, by the way, no state or
election judge in the country demands proof of US citizenship to vote or
collect welfare? And neither political party will touch this issue, because
of corporate contributions wanting cheap disposable labor.

Outsourcing may be inevitable, but the loss of our borders and 8-12
million illegals after 9/11 is intentional.
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 10:34:06 +0100, "John Smith"
vaguely proposed a theory
......and in reply I say!:
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Have the same problem in England, Had to report a fault on a telephone a

few
weeks ago, I'm sure the call went to India.
As other posters have said, if you removed or reduced welfare payments

there
would be a lot more 'willing' workers available.


Yes. But it's never this simple, dammit!

One of those workers may be able to take _your_ job, for less
pay....and ;ess pay...and less pay.
************************************************** ** sorry

.........no I'm not!
remove ns from my header address to reply via email

Does Bill Gates dream of electronic sheep?





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"beachnut" wrote in
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Do you know that your fed and state tax dollars help pay for illegal
aliens? A west Texas study estimated the cost to the county just for
medical was 5400 per person, for the 8 children of one illegal alien.
They didn't figure on his wife also collecting welfare, their kids
getting education, and the other social costs like legal/criminal.
Oh, by the way, no state or election judge in the country demands
proof of US citizenship to vote or collect welfare? And neither
political party will touch this issue, because of corporate
contributions wanting cheap disposable labor.


I did work in Bahrain back in the 80's for the Navy.....\

Bahrainis got it just right. There's LOTS of cheap, Indian and Bangladeshi
labor in the country that does all the menial tasks. However, only the MEN
are allowed to come into Bahrain to WORK, not the whole families. Noone
could become a citizen unless they we
Moslem
spoke fluent Arabic
had been resident worker in Bahrain for 25 years.
So much for the social problems. They were there to work, not to sponge
off the local tax base and government services.

Workers were very cooperative. If they were fired, they had 2 weeks to get
another job/sponsor or the government shipped them back home where they'd
have to start the process all over again. Few did. I had a friend who
lived in the country working for Halliburton. He was a "good ol' boy from
Oklahoma". For about $90/mo, food and a bedroom he had an Indian houseboy
who treated their apartment like the Taj Mahal and waited on them hand and
foot like royalty. He sent most all his money home, so hardly ever left
their house, even though he had regular hours. He was very grateful they
paid him more than he could ever earn at home and his family lived very
well. When he did go home on holiday, he got them a friend to replace him
for that month. Ask the wife, Ruth, if she'd go back to Oklahoma I was
told "No Way!", for obvious reasons. Too bad my friend died and she had to
go home.

Americans don't have to live like trash doing menial household tasks and
being taxed to death by illegal or legal aliens. We could live like kings
if we had a similar program. The Bahraini English newspapers were full of
ads of these workers looking for a job to support their families back home.
All we need to do is stop paying people to sit on their asses at the
expense of the rest of us.

Thursday is tax day. I'm in a bad mood from writing that check on Easter
Sunday I do every year......

Larry W4CSC
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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 13:30:50 -0000, Larry W4CSC
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Yeah! Or we could jus use them little fella's as slaves again! ****!
Why pay at all? Many of them poor little subhumans would be grateful
just for a feed o grits each day!

ANd we could _import_ Asian prostitutes, sent over by their own
families to sell their sorry little child arses for a pittance,
because some good ol' rich white boy wants a piece for nuttn.

Bloody hell!

Americans don't have to live like trash doing menial household tasks and
being taxed to death by illegal or legal aliens. We could live like kings
if we had a similar program. The Bahraini English newspapers were full of
ads of these workers looking for a job to support their families back home.
All we need to do is stop paying people to sit on their asses at the
expense of the rest of us.

Thursday is tax day. I'm in a bad mood from writing that check on Easter
Sunday I do every year......

Larry W4CSC


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