Hi

This first class vessel with a crew at atleast 24 hit "somthing" in a
norwegian fjord. The vessel instantly turned upside down halve the crew
suffered.
Problem is that there is nothing to "hit" in that fjord, people seen the
vessel suddenly just leaning over and turning upside down in an instant.

http://www6.nrk.no/galleri/bildegall...et&banner=hord
aland&h=650&w=650

Why so big a crew, what did it hit a russian sub, most unlikely.
A Unidentified floating object ?

P.C.

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 16:01:30 -0800, Dave Fleming wrote:


Hmmmm, not quite accurate there PC old buddy, old sockeroo, old salt.

Read this thread for some clarifications.


http://media5.hypernet.com/ubb/ultim...c;f=6;t=002063

That's a fascinating thread, even though the engineering and physics
are by necessity speculative at this point.

Hell for the people on the ship, though. Good news, bad news that it
went down directly in front of a city...that shoreline will be soiled
for years.

R.

Why so big a crew, what did it hit a russian sub, most unlikely.
A Unidentified floating object ?

P.C.

Hmmmm, not quite accurate there PC old buddy, old sockeroo, old salt.

Read this thread for some clarifications.


http://media5.hypernet.com/ubb/ultim...c;f=6;t=002063
Tales of a Boatbuilder Apprentice
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/djf3rd/
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Having gave it some thought, I came to the conclusion the ballast had been
pumped out the ship more than likely had deck cargo, which did not help
stability, the action of waves hit the ship from the beam, did they lose
ballast in order to come in on a low tide condition, or by negligence
pumping out to much of ballast, causing it to turn over.

The ship was a rock carrier designed to place riprap around oil
platforms. It had silos that fed a conveyor in the bilge so the COG was
a bit higher than most vessels. There was a report that the ballast
tanks were empty while the ship transited a narrow channel which greatly
limited its stability range. The ship scraped a reef causing some hull
damage on the port side.

Speculation is that as the ship snagged on the rocks it was pulled
rapidly to port and the enertia of the cargo caused the ship to heel to
starboard past its limit of stability.

P.C. wrote:
Hi

This first class vessel with a crew at atleast 24 hit "somthing" in a
norwegian fjord. The vessel instantly turned upside down halve the crew
suffered.
Problem is that there is nothing to "hit" in that fjord, people seen the
vessel suddenly just leaning over and turning upside down in an instant.

http://www6.nrk.no/galleri/bildegall...et&banner=hord
aland&h=650&w=650

Why so big a crew, what did it hit a russian sub, most unlikely.
A Unidentified floating object ?

P.C.



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Hi

"Glenn Ashmore" skrev i en meddelelse
news:rO9Rb.1$u_6.0@lakeread04...
The ship was a rock carrier designed to place riprap around oil
platforms. It had silos that fed a conveyor in the bilge so the COG was
a bit higher than most vessels. There was a report that the ballast
tanks were empty while the ship transited a narrow channel which greatly
limited its stability range. The ship scraped a reef causing some hull
damage on the port side.

Speculation is that as the ship snagged on the rocks it was pulled
rapidly to port and the enertia of the cargo caused the ship to heel to
starboard past its limit of stability.


From what I read, the cargo was stored in "silo's" and water ballast tanks
around . This made sure that the cargo was in several departments also to
avoid the most common reson for cargo vessels to sink, that the cargo move.
This seem impossible with the cargo system in this vessel , beside this
happened in sheltered waters.
The earthquake center ni the near town Bergen , reconised what could be the
vessel hitting ground tree times ,but the mayday was send several minuts
before this was documented, ---------- so the mayday ocoured before the
vessel suffered.

In all the text it is stated, that there is no reef no stones or any other
vessels in the arear. Only explernation I can think of, is that a Silo
cracked and internal stress made the rest Silos puncture making the cargo
able to move. But even then what witness have seen, is a ship that just lean
over and turn upside down --------- at that point the cargo could have
slipped out the hatches and made the earthquake center notis, but id there
is no dameage on Silo's and the deck is not blown , it is an unidentified
floating object, ------a huge one doing hardly any dameage even turning a 26
thousand tonn upside down.
I mean this vessel is made for sailing in some of the worlds vorse waters,
and then it capsise in a fjord.

P.C.

Hi

Dave Fleming skrev i en meddelelse
...

sni.
Did you read the thread whose URL I posted? It clearly shows the
vessel hit something to get that gash in her hull!

Tales of a Boatbuilder Apprentice
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/djf3rd/

Sure it hit somthing from the small dameage you se in one of the pictures,
but people who know what dameage cargo vessels suffer before sinking or
turning upside down, say that this dameage could not have floated the cargo
rooms, most proberly the dameage is also where there is ballast
tanks, ------ this is a prove the hull hit somthing ,but it is no big thing.

P.C.

Dave Fleming writes:

Did you read the thread whose URL I posted? It clearly shows the
vessel hit something to get that gash in her hull!

It was quite impressive to read that the crash created a clear reading on
the Bergen University seismography department.

Boy those guys have sensitive seismographs. Next time they'll call their
kids home saying "You'll stop that right now! What did daddy say about
jumping in the bed... "

Pekka
--
http://www.puuvene.net/

I would hesitate to pass wind in Bergen lest the event be assigned a
Richter value.

R.

On 27 Jan 04 06:26:11 GMT, (Pekka Huhta)
wrote:

Dave Fleming writes:

Did you read the thread whose URL I posted? It clearly shows the
vessel hit something to get that gash in her hull!

It was quite impressive to read that the crash created a clear reading on
the Bergen University seismography department.

Boy those guys have sensitive seismographs. Next time they'll call their
kids home saying "You'll stop that right now! What did daddy say about
jumping in the bed... "

Pekka