Well, the time is upon us that we'll have to take a boat ashore. The boat
is a 33,000 pound Morgan 46, if that's of any consequence to the discussion.
We anticipate up to a year, and once on the hard, it won't be allowed back
in the water until we're ready to leave (unless there's a demonstrable need,
such as testing a new engine or nav gear or the like).

Since it will be so long, economy is of high interest. Replacing an engine
aside, we anticipate work done will be such that local craftsmen (not marina
yard employees) can easily accomplish the work, so a secure location, out of
the water, is our prime concern after the costs.

If you're familiar with one, can you please recommend inexpensive
on-the-hard storage facilities which will allow work to be done by outside
folks? While it would be easier to be close to Ft. Lauderdale, it could be
up or down the coast.

Thanks ever so much.

L8R

Skip and Lydia
--
"And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear
night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are
quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the
general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the
surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient
as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one
that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly
appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin

Skip Gundlach wrote:

... While it would be easier to be close to Ft.
Lauderdale, it could be up or down the coast.

For the longest time the only deal in town, Lauderdale-wise, was
Summerfields. Have you checked?

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com

There is a good cheap yard on the intracoastal west of Lake Okeechobee. If
you are up for a year and DIY, it could be worth the trip unless you have
permanent digs on the east coast. Hundreds of boats on chocks, many for
the winter, and all types of work being done by owners and commercial
crews. I don't remember the name or exact location but if you are
interested I can get it.

Terry



On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 20:38:26 GMT, Skip Gundlach
wrote:

Well, the time is upon us that we'll have to take a boat ashore. The
boat
is a 33,000 pound Morgan 46, if that's of any consequence to the
discussion.
We anticipate up to a year, and once on the hard, it won't be allowed
back
in the water until we're ready to leave (unless there's a demonstrable
need,
such as testing a new engine or nav gear or the like).

Since it will be so long, economy is of high interest. Replacing an
engine
aside, we anticipate work done will be such that local craftsmen (not
marina
yard employees) can easily accomplish the work, so a secure location,
out of
the water, is our prime concern after the costs.

If you're familiar with one, can you please recommend inexpensive
on-the-hard storage facilities which will allow work to be done by
outside
folks? While it would be easier to be close to Ft. Lauderdale, it could
be
up or down the coast.

Thanks ever so much.

L8R

Skip and Lydia



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Terry wrote:
There is a good cheap yard on the intracoastal west of Lake
Okeechobee ... I don't remember the name or
exact location but if you are interested I can get it.

You're probably thinking of Glades Boatyard. A good bet for DIY, but not
exactly SE Florida. You must be able to get under the 49 foot RR bridge on
the eastern end of Lake Okeechobee to reach the yard. Many (including quite
a few Canadians) think Glades is the best hurricane hole in Florida.

--
Good luck and good sailing.
s/v Kerry Deare of Barnegat
http://kerrydeare.tripod.com

"Armond Perretta" wrote in
message ...
Terry wrote:
There is a good cheap yard on the intracoastal west of Lake
Okeechobee ... I don't remember the name or
exact location but if you are interested I can get it.

You're probably thinking of Glades Boatyard. A good bet for
DIY, but not
exactly SE Florida. You must be able to get under the 49 foot
RR bridge on
the eastern end of Lake Okeechobee to reach the yard. Many
(including quite
a few Canadians) think Glades is the best hurricane hole in
Florida.

We had some friends that used to leave their boat there, for the
summer, and travel in the motorhome. In the fall they would
return and take to boat to the islands for the winter.

Leanne
s/v Fundy

"Armond Perretta" wrote in message
...
Terry wrote:
There is a good cheap yard on the intracoastal west of Lake
Okeechobee ... I don't remember the name or
exact location but if you are interested I can get it.

You're probably thinking of Glades Boatyard. A good bet for DIY, but not
exactly SE Florida. You must be able to get under the 49 foot RR bridge
on

That was one of my concerns, also, and would knock it out for me unless
there's an access point from the west coast, which would be a long drive, in
any event, from FTL, in the 10 days allowed between purchase and
non-use/repair facility...

L8R

Skip

--
"And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear
night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are
quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the
general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the
surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient
as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one
that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly
appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin

Insurance - my usual rant:

Paying the premium does not usually equal getting the coverage that you
think you have. So at least get the complete policy statement and look
through it. Keep all your pictures, surveys, any other receipts or
statements bearing on the quality and condition of your boat and
belongings, and how they were maintained and looked after.

Things that bear on your coverage: Lifting the boat; in transit; on the
hard; type of location and property it's on; duration out of water;
presence of people around the boat, fences, security of property; your
own personal property; boat electronics; other removeable boat gear
(sails, dingy, cushions, tools); what's stored on the boat (flamable
chemicals); who put the boat on the hard, how; who does work on the
boat; season (hurricanes); normal wear & tear (airborne sludge from
nearby construction); various exclusions, acts of gawd, etc.

Finally, (somehow I supect I'm preaching to the choir here, Skip... g)
you're the captain and have all the responsibility. Don't take
_anybody's_ unquestioned or unvarified word on _anything_ that worries
you. Eg. placement of supports, nearness of neighboring boats (to fall
on you), locked (?) storage lockers, etc. Also, is the boat near any
heavy traffic (main gate, travel-lifts, parking, incoming flat beds,
etc) which would increase the risk of fender-benders.

Rufus

Cracker Boy Boat Works in Riviera Beach, at the Lake Worth inlet is
the cheapest I know of within a days sail of FTL.
DIY is OK except for sandblasting or spray painting, outside contractors
Ok but they have to have insurance and be blessed by the yard..
For my 34' sloop:
$ 178.50 Haul & launch
$ 120.00 Pressure wash & blocking
$ 13.60 per lay day for the first week, more later.
$ 1.00/ foot disposal fee
They expect you to buy your supplies from them but their mark- up is not
too bad.
I paid $ 210.00 / gal for Pettit Ultima Pro and $ 33.00 for a 1 1/2 "
bronze through hull fitting, $ 55.00 for cutless bearing.
I like the crew there, most of them were there 10 years ago when I first
hauled there. Phil, the yard foreman races a J34.
They also have a dead storage yard across the street, no idea what the
rates are.
Lots of marine stores and contractors in the area, also food and a
cheap somewhat seedy motel within walking distance.
I am sure Indiantown is cheaper and more hurricane safe, but it is also
in the middle of nowhere.
Cracker Boy also has a yard in Ft. Pierce but I have never been there.
Most things in FL get ceaper as you go north.
Good luck with your new boat.
Russ
CBBW # 561-845-0357



Skip Gundlach wrote:

Well, the time is upon us that we'll have to take a boat ashore. The boat
is a 33,000 pound Morgan 46, if that's of any consequence to the discussion.
We anticipate up to a year, and once on the hard, it won't be allowed back
in the water until we're ready to leave (unless there's a demonstrable need,
such as testing a new engine or nav gear or the like).

Since it will be so long, economy is of high interest. Replacing an engine
aside, we anticipate work done will be such that local craftsmen (not marina
yard employees) can easily accomplish the work, so a secure location, out of
the water, is our prime concern after the costs.

If you're familiar with one, can you please recommend inexpensive
on-the-hard storage facilities which will allow work to be done by outside
folks? While it would be easier to be close to Ft. Lauderdale, it could be
up or down the coast.

Thanks ever so much.

L8R

Skip and Lydia

If you are willing to go to the Florida Keys, try Max's Marine in
Islamorada. They are on the Gulf side and require a bit of maneuvering
to get your boat inside (in your case, a high tide entry is advisable).
I have kept my boat there for over 25 years, and have not had any
problems. You will find many yards in the Keys, who profess to be DIY,
are a bit of a pain because of the government restrictions on bottom
painting. For example, you might have to move your boat to a special
'painting area'. So far, Max's has not required that.

Sherwin Dubren

Skip Gundlach wrote:

Well, the time is upon us that we'll have to take a boat ashore. The boat
is a 33,000 pound Morgan 46, if that's of any consequence to the discussion.
We anticipate up to a year, and once on the hard, it won't be allowed back
in the water until we're ready to leave (unless there's a demonstrable need,
such as testing a new engine or nav gear or the like).

Since it will be so long, economy is of high interest. Replacing an engine
aside, we anticipate work done will be such that local craftsmen (not marina
yard employees) can easily accomplish the work, so a secure location, out of
the water, is our prime concern after the costs.

If you're familiar with one, can you please recommend inexpensive
on-the-hard storage facilities which will allow work to be done by outside
folks? While it would be easier to be close to Ft. Lauderdale, it could be
up or down the coast.

Thanks ever so much.

L8R

Skip and Lydia
--
"And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear
night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are
quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the
general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the
surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient
as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one
that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly
appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin