Tampa/Ft. Lauderdale surveyors
Hi, all,
I've got an offer on a boat in process. I've had Pete Brown, in the TSP area, referred to me as a particularly thorough surveyor, with (because he used to work there) a very unusually deep knowledge of Morgans. Has anyone used him - and if so, what are your impressions? Secondly, failing that, are there recommendations in the group for or against any particular surveyors in either the TSP or FTL areas? I'm definitely not looking for a deal breaker, but I'm also definitely looking for someone who will be critical on critical items, and go up the mast(s) to look at, directly, the fittings, and that sort of thing. Pete's cited as doing that, and for my 45' class boat, spends 10-12 hours doing it... Please reply directly, as I may not see it here. Thanks. L8R Skip (and Lydia, by proxy) "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain -- "And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin |
Tampa/Ft. Lauderdale surveyors
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"Skip Gundlach" wrote: Secondly, failing that, are there recommendations in the group for or against any particular surveyors in either the TSP or FTL areas? I'd ensure that whomever you choose is on your insurance company's list. The guy you mentioned probably is. He sounds like a broker's nightmare. And I wouldn't worry about the insurance company knowing all the warts. You'll fix those things that are important anyway. -- Jere Lull Xan-a-Deux ('73 Tanzer 28 #4 out of Tolchester, MD) Xan's Pages: http://members.dca.net/jerelull/X-Main.html Our BVI FAQs (290+ pics) http://homepage.mac.com/jerelull/BVI/ |
Tampa/Ft. Lauderdale surveyors
On Fri, 09 Jan 2004 15:25:02 GMT, "Skip Gundlach"
wrote: Hi, all, I've got an offer on a boat in process. I've had Pete Brown, in the TSP area, referred to me as a particularly thorough surveyor, with (because he used to work there) a very unusually deep knowledge of Morgans. Has anyone used him - and if so, what are your impressions? Secondly, failing that, are there recommendations in the group for or against any particular surveyors in either the TSP or FTL areas? I'm definitely not looking for a deal breaker, but I'm also definitely looking for someone who will be critical on critical items, and go up the mast(s) to look at, directly, the fittings, and that sort of thing. Pete's cited as doing that, and for my 45' class boat, spends 10-12 hours doing it... Please reply directly, as I may not see it here. Thanks. L8R Skip (and Lydia, by proxy) "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain I used Mike Davenport of Safeguard Marine in Sarasota to do the hull and someone whose name escapes me from North Sails of St. Pete to do the rigging and Mike Downes of M.D Diesel service to do the engine and was happy with all three. Mike Davenport recommended the rigging guy and the engine guy. Mike's email is , North Sail is at 727 898 1123 and David Downes is at 941 485 9079. |
Tampa/Ft. Lauderdale surveyors
Skip
A deal breaker type of surveyor is exactly what you are looking for...you want to know exactly what problems you are going to have with a 20 something year old boat. It is up to you to have the depth of knowledge to know what is or is not a deficiency that will stop the transaction. The insurance concerns are the second most important consideration. If the insurance company doesn't recognize the credentials, you just through your money away. Good luck Bruce I'm definitely not looking for a deal breaker, but I'm also definitely looking for someone who will be critical on critical items, and go up the mast(s) to look at, directly, the fittings, and that sort of thing. |
Tampa/Ft. Lauderdale surveyors
Pete Brown is a thorough and honest surveyor...you can't go wrong with him.
Charlie J JTB Marine Service St. Petersburg, FL "Skip Gundlach" wrote in message .net... Hi, all, I've got an offer on a boat in process. I've had Pete Brown, in the TSP area, referred to me as a particularly thorough surveyor, with (because he used to work there) a very unusually deep knowledge of Morgans. Has anyone used him - and if so, what are your impressions? Secondly, failing that, are there recommendations in the group for or against any particular surveyors in either the TSP or FTL areas? I'm definitely not looking for a deal breaker, but I'm also definitely looking for someone who will be critical on critical items, and go up the mast(s) to look at, directly, the fittings, and that sort of thing. Pete's cited as doing that, and for my 45' class boat, spends 10-12 hours doing it... Please reply directly, as I may not see it here. Thanks. L8R Skip (and Lydia, by proxy) "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain -- "And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin |
Surveyors (was) Tampa/Ft. Lauderdale surveyors
Well, I've (on several Sailnet lists) gotten nothing but positive feedback
about the only two surveyors I've known about in FL, Pete Brown, and Rick Shelley. In Pete's case, for a 46' boat, it's $19 a foot, including climbing and inspecting masthead and attachments along with the rigging everywhere. I don't have a price for Rick. However, take a gander at http://www.nymarinesurveyor.com/index.html and look at their samples, and their pricing (which *doesn't* include direct inspection of any sticks or rigging off the deck). I particularly like their documentation with photos and citations of regs WRT any suggested stuff. Seems to me that this would be particularly effective in negotiation after the survey, as it's not conjecture, or subjective, but regulation. In looking at several of their samples, I see that there's a fair amount of boilerplate (which is entirely appropriate for duplicate circumstances or stuff which is background for each client). I got a grin out of every one advocating subscribing to Good Old Boat and Practical Sailor, and to purchase Don Casey's, Nigel Calder's, and a couple of other boat books... Couple of questions: Has anyone used them? Has anyone used *other* surveyors who use this approach? -- "And then again, when you sit at the helm of your little ship on a clear night, and gaze at the countless stars overhead, and realize that you are quite alone on a great, wide sea, it is apt to occur to you that in the general scheme of things you are merely an insignificant speck on the surface of the ocean; and are not nearly so important or as self-sufficient as you thought you were. Which is an exceedingly wholesome thought, and one that may effect a permanent change in your deportment that will be greatly appreciated by your friends."- James S. Pitkin |
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