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Brian Blazer January 2nd 04 03:35 AM

clamps
 
It always happens. You are right in the middle of a project and you find
out that you are short on clamps. So what do you do? You try to figure
out some sort of jerry rig with bailing wire and duct tape to get the
job done.

Well, www.spaltedboard.com has the answer for you. This month's freebie
is a whole assortment of clamps for your shop. What kind of assortment
you ask? Well, look below.

2 - 25" Bessey K-Bodies
2 - 41" Bessey K-Bodies
2 - Quick Grip Handi-Clamps
2 - 12" Medium Duty FA Clamps
2 - 36" Medium Duty FA Clamps
2 - 6.5" Bessey UniKlamps

Hopefully these 12 clamps will come in handy. As always, all you have to
do is be the randomly selected poster at www.spaltedboard.com. Just make
sure that post is made between 1/1/04 and 1/31/04. Remember, you have to
post to be eligible to win. Just being a member doesn't cut it.

Have fun!

Brian
www.spaltedboard.com


Larry Bud January 2nd 04 03:38 PM

clamps
 
Brian Blazer wrote in message ...
It always happens. You are right in the middle of a project and you find
out that you are short on clamps. So what do you do? You try to figure
out some sort of jerry rig with bailing wire and duct tape to get the
job done.


Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.

Dave Balderstone January 2nd 04 03:59 PM

clamps
 
In article , Larry Bud
wrote:

Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.


I certainly don't consider Brian's occasional posts to be spam, and the
back button works just fine in my browser (Safari 1.1.1).

Perhaps you should contact your browser developer and tell them they
need to fix it?

;-)

djb

--
There are no socks in my email address.

"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"

Brian Blazer January 2nd 04 05:55 PM

clamps
 
On 1/2/04 9:38 AM, in article
, "Larry Bud"
wrote:

Brian Blazer wrote in message
...
It always happens. You are right in the middle of a project and you find
out that you are short on clamps. So what do you do? You try to figure
out some sort of jerry rig with bailing wire and duct tape to get the
job done.


Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.


I am just wondering why you think this is spam? I am not selling you
anything, not trying to get you to sign up for anything. As a matter of
fact, I am not asking anything of you at all. I am only telling you about a
chance to win a dozen free clamps that have no catch whatever.

As far as the re-direct goes, I can hit the back button on any browser I use
and it works just fine (Opera, Safari, Mozilla, Netscape, Firebird,
Explorer).

Brian


Steve January 2nd 04 07:23 PM

clamps
 
YaH! And Ed McMann is just reminding me that I have won a Million Dollars.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions



Larry Bud January 2nd 04 08:41 PM

clamps
 
Dave Balderstone wrote in message . ca...
In article , Larry Bud
wrote:

Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.


I certainly don't consider Brian's occasional posts to be spam, and the
back button works just fine in my browser (Safari 1.1.1).

Perhaps you should contact your browser developer and tell them they
need to fix it?

;-)


Of course it's spam, as he's offering nothing but advertising.
Speaking as a web developer/java programmer, if you're going back
fine, then your back button isn't actually going BACK to the previous
page, as his home page forwards you to another page. You have to go
back into the history if you really want to go back.

William R. Watt January 2nd 04 10:40 PM

clamps
 
can you buy enough clamps with a million dollars?

"Steve" ) writes:
YaH! And Ed McMann is just reminding me that I have won a Million Dollars.

Steve
s/v Good Intentions




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[email protected] January 2nd 04 11:20 PM

clamps
 
Larry Bud wrote:
Of course it's spam, as he's offering nothing but advertising.
Speaking as a web developer/java programmer, if you're going back
fine, then your back button isn't actually going BACK to the previous
page, as his home page forwards you to another page. You have to go
back into the history if you really want to go back.


Spam is UNWANTED solicitation, so the message can be both depending on
who's reading it. Since Brian doesn't promote his website very often
he's well within the guidelines of promotions on this NG.

Dave in Fairfax
--
reply-to doesn't work
use:
daveldr at att dot net
American Association of Woodturners
Capital Area Woodturners

Dan January 3rd 04 02:30 AM

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On Fri 02 Jan 2004 02:41:32p, (Larry Bud) wrote in
om:

Of course it's spam, as he's offering nothing but advertising.


Promoting a woodworking website every now and then is spam? Tool reviews
and forums are "nothing but advertising?" I think maybe you and I differ on
the definition. :-)

Speaking as a web developer/java programmer, if you're going back
fine, then your back button isn't actually going BACK to the previous
page, as his home page forwards you to another page. You have to go
back into the history if you really want to go back.


Speaking as another web dev/programmer, my back button takes me right back
to the page I was on before I clicked on the link to spalted board. One
click. Always has, every time I visit the site. Same goes for a lot of
websites. If the back button takes the browser to the page that does the
redirect, some programmer has dropped the ball.

Dan

Newbie January 3rd 04 02:58 AM

clamps
 
Brian you might as well just forget it. There is a group of people on
this newsgroup that attack anything that doesn't pertain to there own
interests(money making). You can't even post non-commercial sites
because certain people get their crap in a uproar...it's a losing battle
here. LOL NEWBIE

Brian Blazer wrote:

On 1/2/04 9:38 AM, in article
, "Larry Bud"
wrote:

Brian Blazer wrote in message
...
It always happens. You are right in the middle of a project and you find
out that you are short on clamps. So what do you do? You try to figure
out some sort of jerry rig with bailing wire and duct tape to get the
job done.


Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.


I am just wondering why you think this is spam? I am not selling you
anything, not trying to get you to sign up for anything. As a matter of
fact, I am not asking anything of you at all. I am only telling you about a
chance to win a dozen free clamps that have no catch whatever.

As far as the re-direct goes, I can hit the back button on any browser I use
and it works just fine (Opera, Safari, Mozilla, Netscape, Firebird,
Explorer).

Brian


Brian Blazer January 3rd 04 03:21 AM

clamps
 


Larry Bud wrote:

Of course it's spam, as he's offering nothing but advertising.
Speaking as a web developer/java programmer, if you're going back
fine, then your back button isn't actually going BACK to the previous
page, as his home page forwards you to another page. You have to go
back into the history if you really want to go back.


And what are you offering with this? And what am I advertising other
than my web site? A site that I do out of my own pocket and gain no
financial rewards for doing?

Brian



Dave Mundt January 3rd 04 08:10 AM

clamps
 
Greetings and Salutations....
On 2 Jan 2004 07:38:32 -0800, (Larry Bud)
wrote:

Brian Blazer wrote in message ...
It always happens. You are right in the middle of a project and you find
out that you are short on clamps. So what do you do? You try to figure
out some sort of jerry rig with bailing wire and duct tape to get the
job done.


Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.


Hum...since it IS a forum about woodworking (and I suppose has
some relevance to the boatbuilding community), I hardly would call
it spam as it IS on topic for the posted groups.
As for the "another page"...I can see your point, sort of...
However, the actions of the site stem from the fact that the pages
are not static, but, are generated on the fly by a database program.
Therefore, simply going to the domain (
www.spaltedboard.com) causes
the web server to invoke the program to create the home page.
You CAN use the "back" button to get out...but, you DO
have to hit it twice in fairly quick sequence. The first "back"
gets you to the domain. The second "back" click gets you to the
page you were at when you went to the domain. It is a small
price to pay for a good source of information, I think, so,
perhaps the best thing we can do is all just chill out and worry
about more important things.
Regards
Dave Mundt


Backyard Renegade January 3rd 04 03:57 PM

clamps
 
Newbie wrote in message ...
Brian you might as well just forget it. There is a group of people on
this newsgroup that attack anything that doesn't pertain to there own
interests(money making). You can't even post non-commercial sites
because certain people get their crap in a uproar...it's a losing battle
here. LOL NEWBIE


I think what got you in trouble was posting your own site and trying
to pose as a third person in doing so. You got caught slick, and as
someone mentioned last time you cried this, no one tried to sell you
anything either, no one showed any "self interest". If you take five
minutes and look you will see that most of the most prevelant posters
here are private builders with no commercial interest at all. Someone
like myself who does have a commercial interest, rarely if ever note
my own products here, only competetors. get yourself a crying towel
and build some boats, bye, Scotty


Brian Blazer wrote:

On 1/2/04 9:38 AM, in article
, "Larry Bud"
wrote:

Brian Blazer wrote in message
...
It always happens. You are right in the middle of a project and you find
out that you are short on clamps. So what do you do? You try to figure
out some sort of jerry rig with bailing wire and duct tape to get the
job done.

Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.


I am just wondering why you think this is spam? I am not selling you
anything, not trying to get you to sign up for anything. As a matter of
fact, I am not asking anything of you at all. I am only telling you about a
chance to win a dozen free clamps that have no catch whatever.

As far as the re-direct goes, I can hit the back button on any browser I use
and it works just fine (Opera, Safari, Mozilla, Netscape, Firebird,
Explorer).

Brian


Leon January 4th 04 03:55 PM

clamps
 
Wrong..

"Larry Bud" wrote in message
om...
Brian Blazer wrote in message

...
It always happens. You are right in the middle of a project and you find
out that you are short on clamps. So what do you do? You try to figure
out some sort of jerry rig with bailing wire and duct tape to get the
job done.


Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.




Newbie January 4th 04 05:04 PM

clamps
 
WRONG!! I have no commercial site. I asked a simple question if anyone
knew anything about this "JEM WATERCRAFT". I have suspicions it is a
Jacque Mertins business?? NEWBIE

Backyard Renegade wrote:

Newbie wrote in message ...
Brian you might as well just forget it. There is a group of people on
this newsgroup that attack anything that doesn't pertain to there own
interests(money making). You can't even post non-commercial sites
because certain people get their crap in a uproar...it's a losing battle
here. LOL NEWBIE


I think what got you in trouble was posting your own site and trying
to pose as a third person in doing so. You got caught slick, and as
someone mentioned last time you cried this, no one tried to sell you
anything either, no one showed any "self interest". If you take five
minutes and look you will see that most of the most prevelant posters
here are private builders with no commercial interest at all. Someone
like myself who does have a commercial interest, rarely if ever note
my own products here, only competetors. get yourself a crying towel
and build some boats, bye, Scotty


Brian Blazer wrote:

On 1/2/04 9:38 AM, in article
, "Larry Bud"
wrote:

Brian Blazer wrote in message
...
It always happens. You are right in the middle of a project and you find
out that you are short on clamps. So what do you do? You try to figure
out some sort of jerry rig with bailing wire and duct tape to get the
job done.

Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.

I am just wondering why you think this is spam? I am not selling you
anything, not trying to get you to sign up for anything. As a matter of
fact, I am not asking anything of you at all. I am only telling you about a
chance to win a dozen free clamps that have no catch whatever.

As far as the re-direct goes, I can hit the back button on any browser I use
and it works just fine (Opera, Safari, Mozilla, Netscape, Firebird,
Explorer).

Brian


Brian D January 4th 04 07:46 PM

clamps
 
Hey you newbie! Glad to see you around. Note that I think the following
dialogue referred to another guy's post about a web site where you could
enter to win a bunch of clamps or something. Not sure where or when you
jumped in ...I missed whatever reference there was to JEM Watercraft
(whatever/whoever that is). I don't think anything said was a personal jab
aimed at you, or at least I hope not...

Your pal,
Brian D

--
My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass


"Newbie" wrote in message
...
WRONG!! I have no commercial site. I asked a simple question if anyone
knew anything about this "JEM WATERCRAFT". I have suspicions it is a
Jacque Mertins business?? NEWBIE

Backyard Renegade wrote:

Newbie wrote in message

...
Brian you might as well just forget it. There is a group of people on
this newsgroup that attack anything that doesn't pertain to there own
interests(money making). You can't even post non-commercial sites
because certain people get their crap in a uproar...it's a losing

battle
here. LOL NEWBIE


I think what got you in trouble was posting your own site and trying
to pose as a third person in doing so. You got caught slick, and as
someone mentioned last time you cried this, no one tried to sell you
anything either, no one showed any "self interest". If you take five
minutes and look you will see that most of the most prevelant posters
here are private builders with no commercial interest at all. Someone
like myself who does have a commercial interest, rarely if ever note
my own products here, only competetors. get yourself a crying towel
and build some boats, bye, Scotty


Brian Blazer wrote:

On 1/2/04 9:38 AM, in article
, "Larry Bud"
wrote:

Brian Blazer wrote in message
...
It always happens. You are right in the middle of a project and

you find
out that you are short on clamps. So what do you do? You try to

figure
out some sort of jerry rig with bailing wire and duct tape to get

the
job done.

Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page

forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the

BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.

I am just wondering why you think this is spam? I am not selling

you
anything, not trying to get you to sign up for anything. As a

matter of
fact, I am not asking anything of you at all. I am only telling you

about a
chance to win a dozen free clamps that have no catch whatever.

As far as the re-direct goes, I can hit the back button on any

browser I use
and it works just fine (Opera, Safari, Mozilla, Netscape, Firebird,
Explorer).

Brian




Matt Langenfeld February 14th 04 02:20 AM

clamps
 
If I may, Newbie does not own the JEM Watecaft the websites. I do. I'm
affiliated with Jacques Mertens, but the site is mine. I do have 2 of
Jacques' canoe designs available. Jacques has several of his plans on
sites like Clark Craft as well.

Let me say that I'm only here to participate in the forum. You get lots
of good ideas from just discussing boat building in general. Actually, I
only came to this news group because I did a search and saw my site was
being discussed here.

So if you have any other questions, feel free to ask here or e-mail me
direct at .

For the record, my sites are
http://www.jem.e-boat.net/ and
http://www.jemwatercraft.com/ . I don't intend to keep repeating them
for advertising. Just wanted to clear up any misconceptions.

Thanks for your interest!

Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft

Newbie wrote:
WRONG!! I have no commercial site. I asked a simple question if anyone
knew anything about this "JEM WATERCRAFT". I have suspicions it is a
Jacque Mertins business?? NEWBIE

Backyard Renegade wrote:

Newbie wrote in message ...

Brian you might as well just forget it. There is a group of people on
this newsgroup that attack anything that doesn't pertain to there own
interests(money making). You can't even post non-commercial sites
because certain people get their crap in a uproar...it's a losing battle
here. LOL NEWBIE


I think what got you in trouble was posting your own site and trying
to pose as a third person in doing so. You got caught slick, and as
someone mentioned last time you cried this, no one tried to sell you
anything either, no one showed any "self interest". If you take five
minutes and look you will see that most of the most prevelant posters
here are private builders with no commercial interest at all. Someone
like myself who does have a commercial interest, rarely if ever note
my own products here, only competetors. get yourself a crying towel
and build some boats, bye, Scotty


Brian Blazer wrote:

On 1/2/04 9:38 AM, in article
m, "Larry Bud"
wrote:


Brian Blazer wrote in message
...

It always happens. You are right in the middle of a project and you find
out that you are short on clamps. So what do you do? You try to figure
out some sort of jerry rig with bailing wire and duct tape to get the
job done.

Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.

I am just wondering why you think this is spam? I am not selling you
anything, not trying to get you to sign up for anything. As a matter of
fact, I am not asking anything of you at all. I am only telling you about a
chance to win a dozen free clamps that have no catch whatever.

As far as the re-direct goes, I can hit the back button on any browser I use
and it works just fine (Opera, Safari, Mozilla, Netscape, Firebird,
Explorer).

Brian



Matt Langenfeld February 14th 04 02:21 AM

clamps
 
If I may, Newbie does not own the JEM Watecaft the websites. I do. I'm
affiliated with Jacques Mertens, but the site is mine. I do have 2 of
Jacques' canoe designs available. Jacques has several of his plans on
sites like Clark Craft as well.

Let me say that I'm only here to participate in the forum. You get lots
of good ideas from just discussing boat building in general. Actually, I
only came to this news group because I did a search and saw my site was
being discussed here.

So if you have any other questions, feel free to ask here or e-mail me
direct at .

For the record, my sites are
http://www.jem.e-boat.net/ and
http://www.jemwatercraft.com/ . I don't intend to keep repeating them
for advertising. Just wanted to clear up any misconceptions.

Thanks for your interest!

Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft

Newbie wrote:

WRONG!! I have no commercial site. I asked a simple question if anyone
knew anything about this "JEM WATERCRAFT". I have suspicions it is a
Jacque Mertins business?? NEWBIE

Backyard Renegade wrote:

Newbie wrote in message ...

Brian you might as well just forget it. There is a group of people on
this newsgroup that attack anything that doesn't pertain to there own
interests(money making). You can't even post non-commercial sites
because certain people get their crap in a uproar...it's a losing battle
here. LOL NEWBIE


I think what got you in trouble was posting your own site and trying
to pose as a third person in doing so. You got caught slick, and as
someone mentioned last time you cried this, no one tried to sell you
anything either, no one showed any "self interest". If you take five
minutes and look you will see that most of the most prevelant posters
here are private builders with no commercial interest at all. Someone
like myself who does have a commercial interest, rarely if ever note
my own products here, only competetors. get yourself a crying towel
and build some boats, bye, Scotty


Brian Blazer wrote:

On 1/2/04 9:38 AM, in article
m, "Larry Bud"
wrote:


Brian Blazer wrote in message
...

It always happens. You are right in the middle of a project and you find
out that you are short on clamps. So what do you do? You try to figure
out some sort of jerry rig with bailing wire and duct tape to get the
job done.

Annoying spam, but even more annoying is that your home page forwards
you to ANOTHER page, which is annoying because I can't use the BACK
button to exit your site. Tell your web developer he needs to fix
this, cause I sure won't be back.

I am just wondering why you think this is spam? I am not selling you
anything, not trying to get you to sign up for anything. As a matter of
fact, I am not asking anything of you at all. I am only telling you about a
chance to win a dozen free clamps that have no catch whatever.

As far as the re-direct goes, I can hit the back button on any browser I use
and it works just fine (Opera, Safari, Mozilla, Netscape, Firebird,
Explorer).

Brian



steveb February 14th 04 10:26 AM

clamps
 
Matt Langenfeld lifted the trapdoor, peered around
and wrote:

For the record, my sites are http://www.jem.e-boat.net/ and
http://www.jemwatercraft.com/ . I don't intend to keep repeating them
for advertising. Just wanted to clear up any misconceptions.

Thanks for your interest!

Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft


You are perfectly entitled to keep mentioning them, there are
"conventions". Indeed, it may prove valuable to any one of us to know who
you are, in future ....

Try a signature file something like this:

Matt Langenfeld
Jem Watercraft
www.jem.e-boat.net short descrip
www.jemwatercraft.com short descrip

The above fulfils all the requirements for appropriate posting, and anyone
who complains is probably using AOL :) (or WebTV) ... hehe

steveb
--
It's a baby site but it will grow :)
www.thebrackenfamily.info


Matt Langenfeld February 14th 04 12:33 PM

clamps
 
Thanks.

I'll give it a shot.



steveb wrote:

Matt Langenfeld lifted the trapdoor, peered around
and wrote:



For the record, my sites are http://www.jem.e-boat.net/ and
http://www.jemwatercraft.com/ . I don't intend to keep repeating them
for advertising. Just wanted to clear up any misconceptions.

Thanks for your interest!

Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft



You are perfectly entitled to keep mentioning them, there are
"conventions". Indeed, it may prove valuable to any one of us to know who
you are, in future ....

Try a signature file something like this:

Matt Langenfeld
Jem Watercraft
www.jem.e-boat.net short descrip
www.jemwatercraft.com short descrip

The above fulfils all the requirements for appropriate posting, and anyone
who complains is probably using AOL :) (or WebTV) ... hehe

steveb



Matt Langenfeld
JEM Watercraft
http://jem.e-boat.net/

Stephen Baker February 14th 04 03:48 PM

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Steveb says:

and anyone
who complains is probably using AOL :) (or WebTV) ... hehe


HEY!! I resemble that remark!

;-P

the other steve b

steveb February 14th 04 05:15 PM

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ospam (Stephen Baker) lifted the trapdoor, peered around
and wrote:

HEY!! I resemble that remark!


lmao

It's not a causal relationship :)

Stephen Baker February 14th 04 08:47 PM

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steveb says:

lmao


Heehee - me too.....

It's not a causal relationship :)


Whatever TF that is. ;-P

Steve

steveb February 14th 04 10:29 PM

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ospam (Stephen Baker) lifted the trapdoor, peered around
and wrote:

Whatever TF that is. ;-P


It's a fancy way of saying not *all* AOL and WebTV users are dumb :)

Stephen Baker February 15th 04 03:00 AM

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steveb crawled out of his bunker and said:

:

It's a fancy way of saying not *all* AOL and WebTV users are dumb :)


Damned by faint praise yet again! ;-(


steve


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