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William R. Watt December 13th 03 08:03 PM

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"Auerbach" ) writes:

I plan to name her "Self Reliant." Launch date is set for April 1.


if you want to launch here on that date (any year) you'll have to extend
your request to include help with breaking the ice

I admire your initiative. For actual cruising guidance you might want to read
Ladd's "Three Years in a 12 Foot Boat" in which he describes mooching his
way through the Americas. He seems to have had quite a knack for living
off women.

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Auerbach December 13th 03 08:31 PM

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You mean there's ice on April Fool's Day?

"William R. Watt" wrote in message
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"Auerbach" ) writes:

I plan to name her "Self Reliant." Launch date is set for April 1.


if you want to launch here on that date (any year) you'll have to extend
your request to include help with breaking the ice

I admire your initiative. For actual cruising guidance you might want to

read
Ladd's "Three Years in a 12 Foot Boat" in which he describes mooching his
way through the Americas. He seems to have had quite a knack for living
off women.

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JAXAshby December 13th 03 11:43 PM

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He seems to have had quite a knack for living
off women.


It is easy. Just pick the "wounded bird" type woman.

Definitely not my style, but I have seen more than enough guys who were quite
willing to live that way. Surprising to me was that in some cases I might bump
into this one or that one only to find they had become "Born Agains" or were
now extremely hen-pecked husbands. Attoning for their perceived sins? Who
knows. In no case did I envy one for the woman he got.



Roger Gt December 14th 03 12:09 AM

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"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
He seems to have had quite a knack for living
off women.


It is easy. Just pick the "wounded bird" type woman.

Definitely not my style, but I have seen more than enough guys who were

quite
willing to live that way. Surprising to me was that in some cases I might

bump
into this one or that one only to find they had become "Born Agains" or

were
now extremely hen-pecked husbands. Atoning for their perceived sins? Who
knows. In no case did I envy one for the woman he got.


"wounded bird" types are a millstone for any man!
You cannot help them, and they drag you down with them!





AP December 14th 03 11:54 AM

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What is the matter with you gentlemen?
The man just asked for any info on free plans.
What's wrong with that?



"Miljenko" wrote in message
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Hello,

I would like to build a 9 meters motor boat with round form in WEST
technology in which I am experienced on small boat (6mtr). Diagonal strip
lines of plywood should be used with epoxy and finaly laminated with

rowing.
Inboard motor is prepaired Mercedes 300D with 90PS. Form should be
displacement/semidisplacement with speed aproximately 10 knots cruising

and
12 knots max.. I found od www.tadroberts.com something for studing White
pine, Douglas fir and Yellow cedar, nice forms but still to far from good
plan to start bulding.
So, if you got free plans or good site please notice me.
Thanks.





Meindert Sprang December 15th 03 07:33 AM

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"Miljenko" wrote in message
...
Hello to ALL of you,

first, I am telecommunications engineer and if anyone asked me about
building some electronic device I always helped him. I gave him schematic
diagram if I had one but did not made a device. That is for what I asked
for !!!


Hello Miljenko,

I have a collection of links on my boatbuilding site:
http://www.customware.nl/boats/en/index.html

Option "interesting links". Maybe you can find something of your intrest
there.


HELLO FROM CROATIA - land of the most beautifull see and little ships!


Been twice to Croatia (Opatija), on my honeymoon and later in the season
again. Unfortunately I wasn't caught by the boatbuilding virus then. But it
sure was beautiful!

Meindert
(also an electronics engineer that loves to build boats after a days work
behind a computer screen)



Jacques Mertens December 15th 03 03:29 PM

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"William R. Watt" wrote in message
I thought all designers ripped off other people's designs.
That's what boat designers do.
Can anyone name anyone who has designed a boat with no research or
study of other people's boats?


I once walked in a major (and I mean major) designer's office while they
were working on the concept drawings of a new boat.
There were plans and pictures all over the place, they had graphs of data
about other boats and a list of desired features mostly referring to other
designs.
I would not trust a design that is not based on research and data compiled
from previous designs.
We have a library of hundreds of plans and spreadsheets full of data from
boats designed by others. I would not start a new design without studying in
detail what has been done before.
The novice will often think: "That design looks very much like a Bolger,
it's a copy . . " not knowing that Bolger got the idea from Sucher who
collected and analyzed data taken from boats he measured on the waterfront
and those boats themselves were the product of an evolution etc. etc.
The problem is the lack of knowledge of the neophyte.
The art of the designer is to pick all those features and blend them in an
harmonious new and original design. That assumes that he also understands
what works and doesn't.
There is much out there not worth copying, it usually comes from amateur
designers who did not do their homework. They try to be different not
knowing that it has been done and failed..
Their weird plans are like no others, they don't "copy".






Backyard Renegade December 15th 03 03:49 PM

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"Miljenko" wrote in message ...

If anybody want to help me and support my whishes to build improved wood
traditional hull form boat please write on .
This newsgroup stinks of selfregarding idiots and fastprofiters.


Uh, F**K you! Hope that translates properly. I have seen no one at all
try to sell you anything here. Anyway, try:
svensons.com
or
http://www.smallboatdesign.co.uk/
You cheap, highbrow, prick.
Scotty from SmallBoats.com



THANKS.

POZDRAV IZ HRVATSKE - zemlje najljepseg mora i malih brodova!
HELLO FROM CROATIA - land of the most beautifull see and little ships!
Miljenko.

Sorry about my english, I am in little hurry so my fingers are not following
my head.


Miljenko December 15th 03 04:10 PM

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Hello to ALL of you,

first, I am telecommunications engineer and if anyone asked me about
building some electronic device I always helped him. I gave him schematic
diagram if I had one but did not made a device. That is for what I asked
for !!!
I understand that many peoples live from selling boat plans, I understand
that they hate even word "free" but what I can not understand is why they
can not read headline of my question I WROTE: "FREE BOAT PLANS" ?!?
Thanks to all of you who understood my words and helped me not only by great
links and mails but even with words of supporting on this group.
If anybody want to help me and support my whishes to build improved wood
traditional hull form boat please write on .
This newsgroup stinks of selfregarding idiots and fastprofiters.

THANKS.

POZDRAV IZ HRVATSKE - zemlje najljepseg mora i malih brodova!
HELLO FROM CROATIA - land of the most beautifull see and little ships!
Miljenko.

Sorry about my english, I am in little hurry so my fingers are not following
my head.



James December 15th 03 05:01 PM

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"Miljenko" wrote in message
...
Hello to ALL of you,


my whishes to build improved wood
traditional hull form boat please write on .
This newsgroup stinks of selfregarding idiots and fastprofiters.

I hope your cutting of timber proves to be more accurate than your sense of
smell....




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