I'm waiting for his thread "Looking for free epoxy". ;-)

steveb wrote:

"Jacques Mertens" lifted the trapdoor, peered around and
wrote:

Well, since you know so much about other peoples designs, you should draft
your own plans.
Send us pictures.

it's a troll - has to be ..

In any event, I will stake money that his contribution to the ng will be
around zero.

Oh, and he'll simply be rude if you challenge him, he's done that already

steveb

Jim Conlin lifted the trapdoor, peered around and
wrote:

I'm waiting for his thread "Looking for free epoxy". ;-)

In another ng, some time ago, there was a guy who popped in from time to
time asking for a "free boat"

Ya gotta laugh

"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
I'm waiting for his thread "Looking for free epoxy". ;-)

Or "Looking for builders to build my boat for free.."

Hello,

I would like to build a 9 meters motor boat with round form in WEST
technology in which I am experienced on small boat (6mtr). Diagonal strip
lines of plywood should be used with epoxy and finaly laminated with rowing.
Inboard motor is prepaired Mercedes 300D with 90PS. Form should be
displacement/semidisplacement with speed aproximately 10 knots cruising and
12 knots max.. I found od www.tadroberts.com something for studing White
pine, Douglas fir and Yellow cedar, nice forms but still to far from good
plan to start bulding.
So, if you got free plans or good site please notice me.
Thanks.

Stephen Baker wrote in message
...
Meindert says:

I don't get it. You want to build a 9 meter boat, which will cost you
several thousands of euros or dollars, but you want free plans???

There are too many people out there who have not hoisted in the fact that
you
get what you pay for. ;-)

Although I am biased....

Steve
Stephen C. Baker - Yacht Designer
http://members.aol.com/SailDesign/pr...cbweb/home.htm

Thanks to God, out there is still enought people who will help me to build
this boat with tehnical help and their experience. You are not this kind of
man so "Good Bye".
Miljenko.

"Miljenko" ) writes:

Already did it. I measured one old form and put it in AutoCAD14. Than little
work about smoothering lines and rescaling to 6 mtr. All sections was
printed 1:1 cut and covered with 3 layer of 4mm plywood+epoxy (90 degrees
shift) and finally 1 ply of rowing. Of course, almost every strip line of
plywood needed corections to best fit. I ALREADY BUILT 6 MTR. BOAT !!!
Result is high quality, very nice little boat.
Now I am ready for something bigger.
See you on Monday.
Bye.
Miljenko.

sorry I didn't read the original correctly
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Meindert Sprang wrote in message
...
"Miljenko" wrote in message
...
Thanks to God, out there is still enought people who will help me to
build
this boat with tehnical help and their experience. You are not this kind
of
man so "Good Bye".
Miljenko.

This is not a matter of not wanting to help someone. This is about decent
plans and the price you pay for it. If you want to build a 8 ft or 2 meter
dinghy, there are quite a few free plans out there on the net. And such a
desing would alse make a free plan viable. you can build a plywood dinghy
for a few tens of bucks worth of plywood. However, building a 9 meter
boats
is quite different. First, I think you don't find any free plans for that,
and second, like I said before, the price of a decent set of plans is
small
compared to the price you end up paying for the materials of the entire
boat. I mean, you can find a decent plan for a 9 meter motorboat for $150
(Woodenboat plan 53, a 32' power cruiser from Eldredge-McInnis). That
might
be just 1% of the total cost of building the boat.

Meindert

That is true, price for plans is not too high but I do not need complete
plans for external and internal works and dimensions of all parts, just hull
form, which is better than many free "boxes" sold as boat. I alredy have
some good forms and get some by my self by measuring few Croatian
traditional boat (very good boats) but I want see and study how to improve
this forms.
Thanks anyway.
Miljenko.

William R. Watt wrote in message
...
have you tried searchidg the Internet for "cold moulding" or "cold
molding" (the latter is the Amercian spelling) since that is the type of
construction you've chosen? also "cold moulded"

"Miljenko" ) writes:
Hello,

I would like to build a 9 meters motor boat with round form in WEST
technology in which I am experienced on small boat (6mtr). Diagonal
strip
lines of plywood should be used with epoxy and finaly laminated with
rowing.
Inboard motor is prepaired Mercedes 300D with 90PS. Form should be
displacement/semidisplacement with speed aproximately 10 knots cruising
and
12 knots max.. I found od www.tadroberts.com something for studing White
pine, Douglas fir and Yellow cedar, nice forms but still to far from
good
plan to start bulding.
So, if you got free plans or good site please notice me.
Thanks.


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Hello,
yes I did. I searched and find few nice, not plans, but very good advice.
Alredy have script from Van De Stadt about building this kind of boat. The
hull form is the bigest problem because many people who think they have good
plans are actualy selling "floating boxes". Result is huge waves around and
capuccino behind boat. Of course empty fuel tank much soon than you
expected.
Thanks.
Miljenko.

I think there are some boatbuilders riding high horses. I thought all
designers ripped off other people's designs. That's what boat designers
do. Can anyone name anyone who has designed a boat with no research or
study of other people's boats? There are even books that recommend copying
sail plans and things from exsiting boats because there are no analytical
methods. Right here in this newsgroup not so long ago several people wrote
that I could not possibly figure out how much sail a boat could carry
mathematically because there were too many variables. I was told to copy.
By a boat designer or builder, I don't know which.

Also there are lots of free boats. I believe Wooden Boat magazien has a
section at the back devoted to free boats. Its unfortunagte that there are
many neglected boats but that's the nature of boat ownership. One does
not buy a recreational boat for any practical reason. They are bought to
enhance one's self image and when they don't, or they require work,
people become disatisfied with them and they become neglected. Enough end up
changing hands for free. Some of which are donated to charity.

"Chris" ) writes:
"Jim Conlin" wrote in message
...
I'm waiting for his thread "Looking for free epoxy". ;-)

Or "Looking for builders to build my boat for free.."




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Meindert Sprang wrote in message
...
"Miljenko" wrote in message
...

That is true, price for plans is not too high but I do not need complete
plans for external and internal works and dimensions of all parts, just
hull
form, which is better than many free "boxes" sold as boat. I alredy have
some good forms and get some by my self by measuring few Croatian
traditional boat (very good boats) but I want see and study how to
improve
this forms.

In that case, take a look at the three catalogs offered by Woodenboat.
They
contain a total of 120 study plans of all sorts of boats: motorboats,
runabouts, launches, sailboats and dinghies. Great reading and drooling
;-)

Meindert


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Just did it this morning. Thanks again.