(BeefaloeB) wrote in message ...
Well, it may be a little small for the bay as Paysons boats are
considered "protected water boats".

What would you recommend as a better stitch-and-glue type boat to use on Cape
Cod Bay? I wouldn't be going out too far...Long Point from Provincetown and
out past the mouth of the Pamet River.

First, I am not saying Diablo would not handle it, choosing your days
according to your experience and other conditions. It should be a
pretty good boat in a scuff too with a sort of vee/flat bottom design.
If you do intend to choose your days when you go on the cape, and
assuming most of your time will be in the River and not the cape, this
still may be the right boat. If you intend more time on the bigger
water, I might look at something in the 20 foot range or larger. S+T
boats in that range can be found at glen-l.com or even grumpy old
Jaques at bateau.com.
Scotty from SmallBoats.com

Don't forget that there is a Diablo Grande plan as well. This might give you
a little more room along with some stability in bigger waters.

"James W. Sloan" wrote in message link.net...
Don't forget that there is a Diablo Grande plan as well. This might give you
a little more room along with some stability in bigger waters.

I think the problem with Diablo Grande is the interior design. the
boat is set up like a Bass platform, fully enclosed with a floor that
is only a few inches below the shear line. At the console you sit on
this "deck" with your feet down through a opening in the deck to the
bilge. Although the larger hull would indicate that it should be a
better boat in bigger water, I think it is really meant to be just a
wider, longer fishing platform. This is not as radical as it may
sound, and I have never built the boat or heard reports, but I never
liked the way the interior looked. If I used the hull shape, I would
redesign the structure of the interior to leave some floor space. I
like to stand down in a boat when fishing, not on top of it. Just my
personal preference, Scotty from SmallBoats.com

Sounds more like a flats boat setup from your description. I've never
studied the Grande plans, just the regular Diablo in Dynamite's book. It
should be simple enough to get the cockpit modified with a proper floor, but
not for a first timer.

James Sloan
Saint Simons Island, GA

I was thinking of using the 'regular' Diablo as a platform for a 'Mini-River
Patrol Boat' or 'Mini-Lobster Boat' for my wife.

Phil nixed the idea . . . would NOT be stable enough. He recommended the
'Grande'. Remember, in either case, a superstructure of some type would be
put on the hull. Therefore, for form stability, the CG would have to be
lowered. This indicates, to me, that lowering the 'floor/deck' should be no
problem.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"James W. Sloan" wrote in message
nk.net...
Sounds more like a flats boat setup from your description. I've never
studied the Grande plans, just the regular Diablo in Dynamite's book. It
should be simple enough to get the cockpit modified with a proper floor,
but
not for a first timer.

James Sloan
Saint Simons Island, GA

"Ron Magen" wrote in message ...
I was thinking of using the 'regular' Diablo as a platform for a 'Mini-River
Patrol Boat' or 'Mini-Lobster Boat' for my wife.

Phil nixed the idea . . . would NOT be stable enough. He recommended the
'Grande'. Remember, in either case, a superstructure of some type would be
put on the hull. Therefore, for form stability, the CG would have to be
lowered. This indicates, to me, that lowering the 'floor/deck' should be no
problem.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop

"James W. Sloan" wrote in message
nk.net...
Sounds more like a flats boat setup from your description. I've never
studied the Grande plans, just the regular Diablo in Dynamite's book. It
should be simple enough to get the cockpit modified with a proper floor,
but
not for a first timer.

James Sloan
Saint Simons Island, GA



Yes, I am sure you are right. The hull shape is very interesting too
when you pick it apart. I did a few renderings of my 20 footer with
such an arrangement, you know, the narrow flat running full length on
the bottom as a planing deck. Still, I wanted to pound a little less
so I ended up with a vee. I wonder what Phil would say about
Dynamites' reccomendation to me to put my 25 horse on a standard
Diablo. Bet it would move right along though.
Scotty

Scotty,
Why don't you do that . . . and tell us what the 'Pucker Factor' is.
{When I ride with Joanne, in her "Arrest Me Red" Saturn Coupe, it's a '3' on
the straight, although it's reached '5' in turns, on occasion.}

Regards,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{If I put my 3.5 on one side of the transom, and my 6 on the other . . .
will that give me a 9.5 hp ? . . .}

"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message
om...
SNIP
. . . Dynamites' reccomendation to me to put my 25 horse on a standard
Diablo. Bet it would move right along though.
Scotty