Price for Sabb 10hp
 

I would pay up to $ 1,000.00 for a running 10 HP especially if it comes with
the var. pitch prop and shaft.

It *HAS* to come with the variable pitch prop and shaft. That is the ONLY
transmission made for the engine.

Those old engines have great torque at low rpm

HP = torque times rpm. If it has just 10 hp and it achieves this hp at lower
rpm it MUST have higher torque (otherwise it wouldn't make 10 hp), and this
means it MUST have more cubic inch displacement. There is zero point zero
advantage to "more torque". It is the hp you need to drive the boat. A 90,000
rpm turbine engine, or 12,000 rpm racing 2-cycle, or 9,500 rpm racing 4-cycle,
or a 6,000 production 2-cycle, or 4,500 production 4-cycle, or a 3,000
production diesel, or a 1,500 rpm industrial diesel, or a 500 rpm mule diesel
engine, or a 50 rpm steam engine, or 10 plough horses (actually, about 8 plough
horses as Jimmy Watt kinds fibbed a bit about the strength of plough horses to
help sell his steam engines), are ALL just 10 horsepower, and it *IS* the hp
that drives the boat.

but still, I
would prefer to see a 20 in there.

The 20 hp Sabb engine weights in at 880#, or well more than a 750 hp MoPar
hemi.

You REALLY have to like the _thought_ of a seriously heavy, low output *diesel*
engine to think that the Sabb engines are anything useful.

Think of it: a 880# engine that puts out less hp than a teenage boy's 180 cc
motorcycle.

Again: it's a great engine.

As is a 2,000# 2hp steam engine in the right circumstance, but it gotta be a
character type boat to be the right circumstance.

A huge displacement, high torque, slow turning 10 hp motor puts out no more hp
than a tiny displacement, high reving, low torque 10 hp motor.

Price for Sabb 10hp
 

scooty, I built my first boat (a Professional Class A/B Racing Runabout)
between the fall and spring of year I was in 8th grade.

What did you do in 8th grade?

btw scooty, I started repairing engines professionally for adult men who
couldn't the summer before I started Junion HS.

How about you? When did you start?

OK, folks. This is Jax Ashby. Famous or infamous on rec.boats (just do
a google search) for just plain being a trouble maker. This guy is
worse than a spammer and should probably be best ignored in most
cases.

We are a group of builders and folks who build and or want to build
boats, and "rec.boats.highschool" is mostly a hands on group talking
from experience or asking serious questions. Why Jax has brought his
brand of spam/ego/flame to this group is beyond me, but remember, he
can only do as much damage as we let him. I could be wrong but I doubt
he gives two ****s about building boats, just likes to hear himself
talk. Take it for what it's worth, I am sure he will have something
nasty to say in return but I will let my posts on boatbuilding address
my answers to anything this guy has to say.

Scott Ingersoll
SmallBoats.com

Price for Sabb 10hp
 

I would pay up to $ 1,000.00 for a running 10 HP especially if it comes with
the var. pitch prop and shaft.

It's complete......
Regards,

Nils Klykken
St. Pete, Florida

Price for Sabb 10hp
 

Well Jax Ashby, given the calibre of your postings, I wonder if you've
actually reached the 8th grade yet.

To everyone else, many thanks for your comments.

N.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
scooty, I built my first boat (a Professional Class A/B Racing Runabout)
between the fall and spring of year I was in 8th grade.

What did you do in 8th grade?

btw scooty, I started repairing engines professionally for adult men who
couldn't the summer before I started Junion HS.

How about you? When did you start?

OK, folks. This is Jax Ashby. Famous or infamous on rec.boats (just do
a google search) for just plain being a trouble maker. This guy is
worse than a spammer and should probably be best ignored in most
cases.

We are a group of builders and folks who build and or want to build
boats, and "rec.boats.highschool" is mostly a hands on group talking
from experience or asking serious questions. Why Jax has brought his
brand of spam/ego/flame to this group is beyond me, but remember, he
can only do as much damage as we let him. I could be wrong but I doubt
he gives two ****s about building boats, just likes to hear himself
talk. Take it for what it's worth, I am sure he will have something
nasty to say in return but I will let my posts on boatbuilding address
my answers to anything this guy has to say.

Scott Ingersoll
SmallBoats.com

Price for Sabb 10hp
 

Neil baby, my mother used to say "There is NO one so stupid as he who won't
learn".

You gotta remember that back in those days "he" meant anyone (man or woman).

Go ahead and build that grossly obese boat with the grossly obese -- and punny
power -- engine, all the while telling anyone who will listen -- all two of 'em
-- what a genius you are for installing an engine that puts out an incredible 1
hp for every 45 pounds of engine weight (something not done on aircraft engines
in 85 years, or car engines in 80 years or farm tractor engines in 65 years, or
industrial gasoline engines in 60 years, or industrial diesel engines in 50
years).

That's sorta like bragging about having a 48 inch ass.

Be proud, dude.

say, neil, didn't you a long time ago - about 6 years -- claim on the
boatbuilding.com site to be a naval architect by training and profession? How
come then you didn't know all this stuff?

Maybe 'cuz you didn't know it 6 years ago either?


Well Jax Ashby, given the calibre of your postings, I wonder if you've
actually reached the 8th grade yet.

To everyone else, many thanks for your comments.

N.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
scooty, I built my first boat (a Professional Class A/B Racing Runabout)
between the fall and spring of year I was in 8th grade.

What did you do in 8th grade?

btw scooty, I started repairing engines professionally for adult men who
couldn't the summer before I started Junion HS.

How about you? When did you start?

OK, folks. This is Jax Ashby. Famous or infamous on rec.boats (just do
a google search) for just plain being a trouble maker. This guy is
worse than a spammer and should probably be best ignored in most
cases.

We are a group of builders and folks who build and or want to build
boats, and "rec.boats.highschool" is mostly a hands on group talking
from experience or asking serious questions. Why Jax has brought his
brand of spam/ego/flame to this group is beyond me, but remember, he
can only do as much damage as we let him. I could be wrong but I doubt
he gives two ****s about building boats, just likes to hear himself
talk. Take it for what it's worth, I am sure he will have something
nasty to say in return but I will let my posts on boatbuilding address
my answers to anything this guy has to say.

Scott Ingersoll
SmallBoats.com

Price for Sabb 10hp
 

Yeah, yeah

Get yourself the most horsepower for the lightest weight possible & then
fill your keel up with lead!! lol.
Then watch that lightweight, high revving, Japanese baby fly to pieces after
467 hours?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Neil baby, my mother used to say "There is NO one so stupid as he who
won't
learn".

You gotta remember that back in those days "he" meant anyone (man or
woman).

Go ahead and build that grossly obese boat with the grossly obese -- and
punny
power -- engine, all the while telling anyone who will listen -- all two
of 'em
-- what a genius you are for installing an engine that puts out an
incredible 1
hp for every 45 pounds of engine weight (something not done on aircraft
engines
in 85 years, or car engines in 80 years or farm tractor engines in 65
years, or
industrial gasoline engines in 60 years, or industrial diesel engines in
50
years).

That's sorta like bragging about having a 48 inch ass.

Be proud, dude.

say, neil, didn't you a long time ago - about 6 years -- claim on the
boatbuilding.com site to be a naval architect by training and profession?
How
come then you didn't know all this stuff?

Maybe 'cuz you didn't know it 6 years ago either?


Well Jax Ashby, given the calibre of your postings, I wonder if you've
actually reached the 8th grade yet.

To everyone else, many thanks for your comments.

N.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
scooty, I built my first boat (a Professional Class A/B Racing
Runabout)
between the fall and spring of year I was in 8th grade.

What did you do in 8th grade?

btw scooty, I started repairing engines professionally for adult men
who
couldn't the summer before I started Junion HS.

How about you? When did you start?

OK, folks. This is Jax Ashby. Famous or infamous on rec.boats (just do
a google search) for just plain being a trouble maker. This guy is
worse than a spammer and should probably be best ignored in most
cases.

We are a group of builders and folks who build and or want to build
boats, and "rec.boats.highschool" is mostly a hands on group talking
from experience or asking serious questions. Why Jax has brought his
brand of spam/ego/flame to this group is beyond me, but remember, he
can only do as much damage as we let him. I could be wrong but I doubt
he gives two ****s about building boats, just likes to hear himself
talk. Take it for what it's worth, I am sure he will have something
nasty to say in return but I will let my posts on boatbuilding address
my answers to anything this guy has to say.

Scott Ingersoll
SmallBoats.com

Price for Sabb 10hp
 

For what its worth, we had a 20' displacement boat with a Sabb engine for
almost 30 years. rebuilt it a couple of times, including once when the boat
didn't float as well as it should have. This was an 8hp with fixed prop.
Brilliant little engine. I believe the fuel consumption was about 2 litres
per hour at full revs. Don't have any idea of a value, parts are expensive
but are readily available, ( at least in the UK).
regards to all
Peter
"BruceM" wrote in message
...
Yeah, yeah

Get yourself the most horsepower for the lightest weight possible & then
fill your keel up with lead!! lol.
Then watch that lightweight, high revving, Japanese baby fly to pieces
after
467 hours?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Neil baby, my mother used to say "There is NO one so stupid as he who
won't
learn".

You gotta remember that back in those days "he" meant anyone (man or
woman).

Go ahead and build that grossly obese boat with the grossly obese -- and
punny
power -- engine, all the while telling anyone who will listen -- all two
of 'em
-- what a genius you are for installing an engine that puts out an
incredible 1
hp for every 45 pounds of engine weight (something not done on aircraft
engines
in 85 years, or car engines in 80 years or farm tractor engines in 65
years, or
industrial gasoline engines in 60 years, or industrial diesel engines in
50
years).

That's sorta like bragging about having a 48 inch ass.

Be proud, dude.

say, neil, didn't you a long time ago - about 6 years -- claim on the
boatbuilding.com site to be a naval architect by training and
profession?
How
come then you didn't know all this stuff?

Maybe 'cuz you didn't know it 6 years ago either?


Well Jax Ashby, given the calibre of your postings, I wonder if you've
actually reached the 8th grade yet.

To everyone else, many thanks for your comments.

N.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
scooty, I built my first boat (a Professional Class A/B Racing
Runabout)
between the fall and spring of year I was in 8th grade.

What did you do in 8th grade?

btw scooty, I started repairing engines professionally for adult men
who
couldn't the summer before I started Junion HS.

How about you? When did you start?

OK, folks. This is Jax Ashby. Famous or infamous on rec.boats (just
do
a google search) for just plain being a trouble maker. This guy is
worse than a spammer and should probably be best ignored in most
cases.

We are a group of builders and folks who build and or want to build
boats, and "rec.boats.highschool" is mostly a hands on group talking
from experience or asking serious questions. Why Jax has brought his
brand of spam/ego/flame to this group is beyond me, but remember,
he
can only do as much damage as we let him. I could be wrong but I
doubt
he gives two ****s about building boats, just likes to hear himself
talk. Take it for what it's worth, I am sure he will have something
nasty to say in return but I will let my posts on boatbuilding
address
my answers to anything this guy has to say.

Scott Ingersoll
SmallBoats.com

Price for Sabb 10hp
 

Gee, I never heard that a modern sailboat engine had a life limited to just 467
hours.

In fact, I keep hearing *most* boat owners (at least those with diesel engines
of any kind) claim anywhere from 10,000 to 50,000 hours between major overhauls
(bull****, of course).

But let's see now. 467 hours at about 40 hours per year (just how many hours
per year does one really, really expect to push a 10 hp in a boat so heavy it
is unlikely to make 5 knots except in a dead flat calm?) makes for almost 12
years of usage before the engine needs a major.

Do you plan on driving you car until it is 13 years old, and then bitching you
had to fix something on it?

However, let's say you get upwards of a 1,000 hours on the engine before you
gotta spend some time fixing it. That makes for a quarter century of use.

Still not enough time?

Well, let's say you take extra good care of that engine and you get a massive
number of hours out of it, like maybe 2,000 hours.

That's 50 years of use.

How old are you going to be 50 years from now?

Give it a break, dude. You like a 440# (without starter motor) engine that
puts out about the same horsepower riding lawn mover because "it has character"
go ahead and install one. Is it practical? Surely not, but it shore do has
"character".

Yeah, yeah

Get yourself the most horsepower for the lightest weight possible & then
fill your keel up with lead!! lol.
Then watch that lightweight, high revving, Japanese baby fly to pieces after
467 hours?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Neil baby, my mother used to say "There is NO one so stupid as he who
won't
learn".

You gotta remember that back in those days "he" meant anyone (man or
woman).

Go ahead and build that grossly obese boat with the grossly obese -- and
punny
power -- engine, all the while telling anyone who will listen -- all two
of 'em
-- what a genius you are for installing an engine that puts out an
incredible 1
hp for every 45 pounds of engine weight (something not done on aircraft
engines
in 85 years, or car engines in 80 years or farm tractor engines in 65
years, or
industrial gasoline engines in 60 years, or industrial diesel engines in
50
years).

That's sorta like bragging about having a 48 inch ass.

Be proud, dude.

say, neil, didn't you a long time ago - about 6 years -- claim on the
boatbuilding.com site to be a naval architect by training and profession?
How
come then you didn't know all this stuff?

Maybe 'cuz you didn't know it 6 years ago either?


Well Jax Ashby, given the calibre of your postings, I wonder if you've
actually reached the 8th grade yet.

To everyone else, many thanks for your comments.

N.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
scooty, I built my first boat (a Professional Class A/B Racing
Runabout)
between the fall and spring of year I was in 8th grade.

What did you do in 8th grade?

btw scooty, I started repairing engines professionally for adult men
who
couldn't the summer before I started Junion HS.

How about you? When did you start?

OK, folks. This is Jax Ashby. Famous or infamous on rec.boats (just do
a google search) for just plain being a trouble maker. This guy is
worse than a spammer and should probably be best ignored in most
cases.

We are a group of builders and folks who build and or want to build
boats, and "rec.boats.highschool" is mostly a hands on group talking
from experience or asking serious questions. Why Jax has brought his
brand of spam/ego/flame to this group is beyond me, but remember, he
can only do as much damage as we let him. I could be wrong but I doubt
he gives two ****s about building boats, just likes to hear himself
talk. Take it for what it's worth, I am sure he will have something
nasty to say in return but I will let my posts on boatbuilding address
my answers to anything this guy has to say.

Scott Ingersoll
SmallBoats.com

Price for Sabb 10hp
 

2 liters per hour at full throttle 8 hp (if that's what it actually put out)
makes for a less than fully efficient diesel engine by today's standards. 2
liters/hr should make for about 9-1/2 hp.

btw, the Vire engine (2-cycle gas), also a character engine, should put out
about 6 hp on 2 liters/hr. Because the Vire weighs about 350# less than the
Sabb, you could carry an EXTRA -- 55 -- gallons of fuel with the Vire (at the
same boat weight) which means you would have an EXTRA -- 150 -- hours of
motoring with the Vire. Dude, that is nearly a week of motoring without
stopping for fuel **at the same weight**.

For what its worth, we had a 20' displacement boat with a Sabb engine for
almost 30 years. rebuilt it a couple of times, including once when the boat
didn't float as well as it should have. This was an 8hp with fixed prop.
Brilliant little engine. I believe the fuel consumption was about 2 litres
per hour at full revs. Don't have any idea of a value, parts are expensive
but are readily available, ( at least in the UK).
regards to all
Peter
"BruceM" wrote in message
...
Yeah, yeah

Get yourself the most horsepower for the lightest weight possible & then
fill your keel up with lead!! lol.
Then watch that lightweight, high revving, Japanese baby fly to pieces
after
467 hours?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Neil baby, my mother used to say "There is NO one so stupid as he who
won't
learn".

You gotta remember that back in those days "he" meant anyone (man or
woman).

Go ahead and build that grossly obese boat with the grossly obese -- and
punny
power -- engine, all the while telling anyone who will listen -- all two
of 'em
-- what a genius you are for installing an engine that puts out an
incredible 1
hp for every 45 pounds of engine weight (something not done on aircraft
engines
in 85 years, or car engines in 80 years or farm tractor engines in 65
years, or
industrial gasoline engines in 60 years, or industrial diesel engines in
50
years).

That's sorta like bragging about having a 48 inch ass.

Be proud, dude.

say, neil, didn't you a long time ago - about 6 years -- claim on the
boatbuilding.com site to be a naval architect by training and
profession?
How
come then you didn't know all this stuff?

Maybe 'cuz you didn't know it 6 years ago either?


Well Jax Ashby, given the calibre of your postings, I wonder if you've
actually reached the 8th grade yet.

To everyone else, many thanks for your comments.

N.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
scooty, I built my first boat (a Professional Class A/B Racing
Runabout)
between the fall and spring of year I was in 8th grade.

What did you do in 8th grade?

btw scooty, I started repairing engines professionally for adult men
who
couldn't the summer before I started Junion HS.

How about you? When did you start?

OK, folks. This is Jax Ashby. Famous or infamous on rec.boats (just
do
a google search) for just plain being a trouble maker. This guy is
worse than a spammer and should probably be best ignored in most
cases.

We are a group of builders and folks who build and or want to build
boats, and "rec.boats.highschool" is mostly a hands on group talking
from experience or asking serious questions. Why Jax has brought his
brand of spam/ego/flame to this group is beyond me, but remember,
he
can only do as much damage as we let him. I could be wrong but I
doubt
he gives two ****s about building boats, just likes to hear himself
talk. Take it for what it's worth, I am sure he will have something
nasty to say in return but I will let my posts on boatbuilding
address
my answers to anything this guy has to say.

Scott Ingersoll
SmallBoats.com

Price for Sabb 10hp
 

I agree with you but beware of Jaxsaby: he will call you a liar, those Sabbs
can't have a fixed prop.
:-)

--
Jacques
http://www.bateau.com

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
For what its worth, we had a 20' displacement boat with a Sabb engine for
almost 30 years. rebuilt it a couple of times, including once when the
boat
didn't float as well as it should have. This was an 8hp with fixed prop.
Brilliant little engine. I believe the fuel consumption was about 2 litres
per hour at full revs. Don't have any idea of a value, parts are expensive
but are readily available, ( at least in the UK).
regards to all
Peter
"BruceM" wrote in message
...
Yeah, yeah

Get yourself the most horsepower for the lightest weight possible & then
fill your keel up with lead!! lol.
Then watch that lightweight, high revving, Japanese baby fly to pieces
after
467 hours?


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Neil baby, my mother used to say "There is NO one so stupid as he who
won't
learn".

You gotta remember that back in those days "he" meant anyone (man or
woman).

Go ahead and build that grossly obese boat with the grossly obese --
and
punny
power -- engine, all the while telling anyone who will listen -- all
two
of 'em
-- what a genius you are for installing an engine that puts out an
incredible 1
hp for every 45 pounds of engine weight (something not done on
aircraft
engines
in 85 years, or car engines in 80 years or farm tractor engines in 65
years, or
industrial gasoline engines in 60 years, or industrial diesel engines
in
50
years).

That's sorta like bragging about having a 48 inch ass.

Be proud, dude.

say, neil, didn't you a long time ago - about 6 years -- claim on the
boatbuilding.com site to be a naval architect by training and
profession?
How
come then you didn't know all this stuff?

Maybe 'cuz you didn't know it 6 years ago either?


Well Jax Ashby, given the calibre of your postings, I wonder if
you've
actually reached the 8th grade yet.

To everyone else, many thanks for your comments.

N.


"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
scooty, I built my first boat (a Professional Class A/B Racing
Runabout)
between the fall and spring of year I was in 8th grade.

What did you do in 8th grade?

btw scooty, I started repairing engines professionally for adult
men
who
couldn't the summer before I started Junion HS.

How about you? When did you start?

OK, folks. This is Jax Ashby. Famous or infamous on rec.boats
(just
do
a google search) for just plain being a trouble maker. This guy is
worse than a spammer and should probably be best ignored in most
cases.

We are a group of builders and folks who build and or want to
build
boats, and "rec.boats.highschool" is mostly a hands on group
talking
from experience or asking serious questions. Why Jax has brought
his
brand of spam/ego/flame to this group is beyond me, but remember,
he
can only do as much damage as we let him. I could be wrong but I
doubt
he gives two ****s about building boats, just likes to hear
himself
talk. Take it for what it's worth, I am sure he will have
something
nasty to say in return but I will let my posts on boatbuilding
address
my answers to anything this guy has to say.

Scott Ingersoll
SmallBoats.com