Pretty but unsailable
 

Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team
and walked over to a marina next door. It was Lake Fairview Marina on
Lake Fairview in Orlando. They had a shelter under which were several
handmade boats including a Stevenson Projects "Weekender" that was a
true work of art. She was made from Southern Yellow Pine finished and
sealed to perfection with a clear coat. Every detail was perfect and
she almost glowed. She even had custom made sails from some sort of
tanbark colored material. I was seriously impressed.
She was for sale, asking price was $9000. This seems very high for
such a small boat but not for a work of art. I could imagine someone
buying this boat not to sail but just as an object of beauty but where
would you put her? Any sailing use would very quickly spoil her looks
so I can only think her builder had decided she wouldnt be sailed long
before she was finished. I am impressed but cannot understand the
motivation of her builder.

Pretty but unsailable
 

9 grand is pretty good motivation. Someone will buy it.





On 20 Nov 2005 11:23:23 -0800, wrote:

Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team
and walked over to a marina next door. It was Lake Fairview Marina on
Lake Fairview in Orlando. They had a shelter under which were several
handmade boats including a Stevenson Projects "Weekender" that was a
true work of art. She was made from Southern Yellow Pine finished and
sealed to perfection with a clear coat. Every detail was perfect and
she almost glowed. She even had custom made sails from some sort of
tanbark colored material. I was seriously impressed.
She was for sale, asking price was $9000. This seems very high for
such a small boat but not for a work of art. I could imagine someone
buying this boat not to sail but just as an object of beauty but where
would you put her? Any sailing use would very quickly spoil her looks
so I can only think her builder had decided she wouldnt be sailed long
before she was finished. I am impressed but cannot understand the
motivation of her builder.

Pretty but unsailable
 

I wonder if it was the "Harmony Boat Works" weekender. It was built by a
very competent builder as a show piece for the company. Considering that
you can build a Weekender yourself for a fraction of the cost, not many
people were interested so the boat has just sat doing nothing. I don't know
if the company still exists or not. Their web site is no longer up.

I'm in the midst of a Weekender myself right now - hopefully for a lot less
than $9,000 although I'm definately no craftsman.

--
Andrew Butchart



wrote in message
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Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team
and walked over to a marina next door. It was Lake Fairview Marina on
Lake Fairview in Orlando. They had a shelter under which were several
handmade boats including a Stevenson Projects "Weekender" that was a
true work of art. She was made from Southern Yellow Pine finished and
sealed to perfection with a clear coat. Every detail was perfect and
she almost glowed. She even had custom made sails from some sort of
tanbark colored material. I was seriously impressed.
She was for sale, asking price was $9000. This seems very high for
such a small boat but not for a work of art. I could imagine someone
buying this boat not to sail but just as an object of beauty but where
would you put her? Any sailing use would very quickly spoil her looks
so I can only think her builder had decided she wouldnt be sailed long
before she was finished. I am impressed but cannot understand the
motivation of her builder.

OT: Pet Peeve Time
 

In article . com,
wrote:

Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team

OT: There is no such thing as a 'crew team'. You can have a rowing crew
or a rowing team but youcannot have a rowing crew team. "Crew" is
defined stricty as a group of people working on a task and, in this
case a group of people rowing together. "Team" is defined similarly.

To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew
crew" or "Team team".

Pet Peeve Time
 

Or nit nit?

How about crew/team?

Roger

http://home.insightbb.com/~derbyrm

"raoul" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
wrote:

Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team

OT: There is no such thing as a 'crew team'. You can have a rowing crew
or a rowing team but youcannot have a rowing crew team. "Crew" is
defined stricty as a group of people working on a task and, in this
case a group of people rowing together. "Team" is defined similarly.

To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew
crew" or "Team team".

OT: Pet Peeve Time
 

raoul ) writes:
In article . com,
wrote:

Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team

OT: There is no such thing as a 'crew team'. You can have a rowing crew
or a rowing team but youcannot have a rowing crew team. "Crew" is
defined stricty as a group of people working on a task and, in this
case a group of people rowing together. "Team" is defined similarly.

To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew
crew" or "Team team".

Not quite, the crew would be only the people who are in the boat, while
the team could be all of the people associated with the boat including the
coach, equipment manager, sponsor, mascot, cheerleaders, and so forth. So
the crew team could be the crew and associated personnel.

Pet Peeve Time
 

To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew
crew" or "Team team".

Or Boutros Boutros?

Pet Peeve Time
 

"raoul" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
wrote:

Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team

OT: There is no such thing as a 'crew team'. You can have a rowing crew
or a rowing team but youcannot have a rowing crew team. "Crew" is
defined stricty as a group of people working on a task and, in this
case a group of people rowing together. "Team" is defined similarly.

To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew
crew" or "Team team".

You tell'm, Raoul :{))

L8R

Skip, Frosh, JV and Varsity small college champ seat 5, many years ago

However, unless you're a rower, that's a totally common mistake, and most of
us rowers let it slide (well, you did know that the only "real" rowing has
lots of sliding, didn't you??)...

--
Morgan 461 #2
SV Flying Pig
http://tinyurl.com/384p2 The vessel as Tehamana, as we bought her

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you
didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail
away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore.
Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain

Pet Peeve Time
 

On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:03:57 +0100, "mislav"
wrote:

To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew
crew" or "Team team".

Or Boutros Boutros?


hehehe,.... oh, sorry, I'm not meant to be laughing, am I?

:-)

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

Pet Peeve Time
 

I rowed on the Oregon State University Varsity CREW Team. That's what it's
officially called, like it or not. Same with Stanford, MIT, University of
Washington many other respectable organizations with long histories. That
said, note that the following page shows the terms to be pretty evenly split
in actual usage:

http://www.truesport.com/Row/links.htm

Brian D



"raoul" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
wrote:

Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team

OT: There is no such thing as a 'crew team'. You can have a rowing crew
or a rowing team but youcannot have a rowing crew team. "Crew" is
defined stricty as a group of people working on a task and, in this
case a group of people rowing together. "Team" is defined similarly.

To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew
crew" or "Team team".

Pet Peeve Time
 

In article , Brian D
wrote:

I rowed on the Oregon State University Varsity CREW Team. That's what it's
officially called, like it or not. Same with Stanford, MIT, University of
Washington many other respectable organizations with long histories. That
said, note that the following page shows the terms to be pretty evenly split
in actual usage:


Not suprising that OSU can't get it right.

It is a rowing crew OR a rowing team. Not both. And I don't care what
you or anyone else says. The University of Washington DOES NOT have a
crew team. I was on the comittiee that researched and advised the guy
who wrote the history of Washington Crew for our Centennial in 2003. No
where will you find Washington referred to as a "crew team". That is
shear ignorance.

raoul

Washington '78

http://www.truesport.com/Row/links.htm

Brian D



"raoul" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
wrote:

Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team

OT: There is no such thing as a 'crew team'. You can have a rowing crew
or a rowing team but youcannot have a rowing crew team. "Crew" is
defined stricty as a group of people working on a task and, in this
case a group of people rowing together. "Team" is defined similarly.

To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew
crew" or "Team team".

Pet Peeve Time
 

Nit pick all you want. My son is on the crew rowing team, get over it.

Pet Peeve Time
 

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:26:44 -0800, raoul wrote:

In article , Brian D
wrote:

I rowed on the Oregon State University Varsity CREW Team. That's what it's
officially called, like it or not. Same with Stanford, MIT, University of
Washington many other respectable organizations with long histories. That
said, note that the following page shows the terms to be pretty evenly split
in actual usage:


Not suprising that OSU can't get it right.

It is a rowing crew OR a rowing team. Not both. And I don't care what
you or anyone else says. The University of Washington DOES NOT have a
crew team. I was on the comittiee that researched and advised the guy
who wrote the history of Washington Crew for our Centennial in 2003. No
where will you find Washington referred to as a "crew team". That is
shear ignorance.

raoul

"raoul" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
wrote:

Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team

OT: There is no such thing as a 'crew team'. You can have a rowing crew
or a rowing team but youcannot have a rowing crew team. "Crew" is
defined stricty as a group of people working on a task and, in this
case a group of people rowing together. "Team" is defined similarly.

To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew
crew" or "Team team".


Raoul was so sure (not to mention condescending, about OSU) I felt
the call to Google using this string:"crew team"

Hmmmm.. Georgetown and Bryn Mawr web sites both refer to their crew
team. Well, what do you know? (You actually have to pay real money
to get into those, unlike WU) Oh! and Western Washington U
mentions their crew team....
:-)
Brian (more in sorrow) Whatcott

Pet Peeve Time
 

In article , Brian Whatcott
wrote:

On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 17:26:44 -0800, raoul wrote:

In article , Brian D
wrote:

I rowed on the Oregon State University Varsity CREW Team. That's what
it's
officially called, like it or not. Same with Stanford, MIT, University of
Washington many other respectable organizations with long histories. That
said, note that the following page shows the terms to be pretty evenly
split
in actual usage:


Not suprising that OSU can't get it right.

It is a rowing crew OR a rowing team. Not both. And I don't care what
you or anyone else says. The University of Washington DOES NOT have a
crew team. I was on the comittiee that researched and advised the guy
who wrote the history of Washington Crew for our Centennial in 2003. No
where will you find Washington referred to as a "crew team". That is
shear ignorance.

raoul

"raoul" wrote in message
...
In article . com,
wrote:

Yesterday, i was in Orlando for a crew regatta for my sons crew team

OT: There is no such thing as a 'crew team'. You can have a rowing crew
or a rowing team but youcannot have a rowing crew team. "Crew" is
defined stricty as a group of people working on a task and, in this
case a group of people rowing together. "Team" is defined similarly.

To say "crew team" is as ponderious and illinformed as saying "Crew
crew" or "Team team".


Raoul was so sure (not to mention condescending, about OSU) I felt
the call to Google using this string:"crew team"

Hmmmm.. Georgetown and Bryn Mawr web sites both refer to their crew
team. Well, what do you know? (You actually have to pay real money
to get into those, unlike WU) Oh! and Western Washington U
mentions their crew team....

Perhaps they are all wrong? To compare the rowing programs at these
other places to Washington's is laughable.