Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

Should have thought to mentioned it here first but I just listed a new
Globemaster SP-5C compass on eBay. After I built the binnacle with an
instrument pod I realized that it would be to high for easy viewing so I
bought a flush mount. One of you guys building a larger boat might
could use it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=2441483 980

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:03:25 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

Should have thought to mentioned it here first but I just listed a new
Globemaster SP-5C compass on eBay. After I built the binnacle with an
instrument pod I realized that it would be to high for easy viewing so I
bought a flush mount. One of you guys building a larger boat might
could use it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=2441483 980

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

I hope the anonymous commentator is joking...

I understood Glenn's motivation

Brian W

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:54:18 -0800, "
georgebush wrote:

You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:03:25 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

Should have thought to mentioned it here first but I just listed a new
Globemaster SP-5C compass on eBay. After I built the binnacle with an
instrument pod I realized that it would be to high for easy viewing so I
bought a flush mount. One of you guys building a larger boat might
could use it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=2441483 980

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

I'm trying to figure out what's illegal about buying something then turning
around and selling it. This is America. Buy and sell what you want. Let
the best man win.

Brian


"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message
...
I hope the anonymous commentator is joking...

I understood Glenn's motivation

Brian W

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 21:54:18 -0800, "
georgebush wrote:

You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:03:25 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

Should have thought to mentioned it here first but I just listed a new
Globemaster SP-5C compass on eBay. After I built the binnacle with an
instrument pod I realized that it would be to high for easy viewing so I
bought a flush mount. One of you guys building a larger boat might
could use it.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...egory=31277&it
em=2441483980

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

wrote:
You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

I debated whether to mention the auction but decided that, while it may
fall into a grey area, it was probably appropriate. The charter does
prohibit advertising but we are a unique and relatively small group with
some rather unique needs. We also end up with surplus material that only
others in this group can use.

Because of design changes and over-purchases anyone building a large
boat will have some extra material that others in the group could use.
While I completely agree with the ban on commerical posting, prohibiting
an anouncement of the availability of this material eliminates some of
the value of this newsgroup.


--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

Glenn Ashmore lifted the trapdoor, peered around
and wrote:

Because of design changes and over-purchases anyone building a large
boat will have some extra material that others in the group could use.
While I completely agree with the ban on commerical posting, prohibiting
an anouncement of the availability of this material eliminates some of
the value of this newsgroup.

It's a long establishe Usenet tradition for group members to offer for
sale, items we may be interested in - the distinction being that these are
private sales, and not in pursuit of a commercial enterprise.

Most ngs also get considerable advice from interested traders who just join
in because it's their area of expertise. Those ppl are perfectly entitled
to include a link to their website in a sig.

Complaining to an ISP about all but the most flagrant breaches of policy,
is futile .... and there is certainly no "illegality"

my 2p

steveb

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

" georgebush wrote in message . ..
You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

Obviously you have not been around this group to understand the
tremendous amount of input Glenn donates here. This group is probably
one of the most focused unmonitored groups I attend. Glenn has a piece
of equipment that would be useful to a good percentage of the builders
here, and he is not trying to make a living selling custom
"binnacle's". Every time Glenn has one of these "ashtrays" (projects
that don't end up working but can not be thrown out), he usually
provides detailed information about the process, with circles and
arrows and a paragraph... so we don't have to make the same mistakes.
Personally, I don't see why a 1% spam ratio by a regular contributor
to a particular news group should raise any question at all. Just my
opinion.
Scotty from SmallBoats.com


On Wed, 05 Nov 2003 22:03:25 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:

Should have thought to mentioned it here first but I just listed a new
Globemaster SP-5C compass on eBay. After I built the binnacle with an
instrument pod I realized that it would be to high for easy viewing so I
bought a flush mount. One of you guys building a larger boat might
could use it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=2441483 980

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

I didn't know there was a ban on commercial advertising? Is that true?

My opinion is that I don't mind seeing commercial advertising now and then,
and I don't mind seeing notes about stuff on ebay either. As long as
someone is clearly not trying to make rec.boats.building a commercial
venture, then close is close enough. I like finding good deals and hearing
from others greatly expands the chance of that.

Brian

--
My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass





"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:A6Lqb.10736$62.9578@lakeread04...


wrote:
You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

I debated whether to mention the auction but decided that, while it may
fall into a grey area, it was probably appropriate. The charter does
prohibit advertising but we are a unique and relatively small group with
some rather unique needs. We also end up with surplus material that only
others in this group can use.

Because of design changes and over-purchases anyone building a large
boat will have some extra material that others in the group could use.
While I completely agree with the ban on commerical posting, prohibiting
an anouncement of the availability of this material eliminates some of
the value of this newsgroup.


--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

" georgebush wrote in message
...
You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

Wahh!! -sob- -whine-...

Someone went and offered an Ebay auction without consulting me first!!

-buries head in hands-

Oh the shock of it all.

;-)

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

This is a very self-serving post - the charter says no advertising -
it doesn't say no COMMERCIAL advertising - it says NO advertising -
period.

The rest of your statement is holier-than-thou justification.



On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:06:14 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



wrote:
You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

I debated whether to mention the auction but decided that, while it may
fall into a grey area, it was probably appropriate. The charter does
prohibit advertising but we are a unique and relatively small group with
some rather unique needs. We also end up with surplus material that only
others in this group can use.

Because of design changes and over-purchases anyone building a large
boat will have some extra material that others in the group could use.
While I completely agree with the ban on commerical posting, prohibiting
an anouncement of the availability of this material eliminates some of
the value of this newsgroup.

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

" lifted the trapdoor,
peered around and wrote:

This is a very self-serving post - the charter says no advertising -
it doesn't say no COMMERCIAL advertising - it says NO advertising -
period.

The rest of your statement is holier-than-thou justification.

Some people are just so friggin' self-satisfied

PLONK

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

Comments:

1) When one spends as much time on this group being helpful to others as
Glenn does, I'm willing to cut him considerable slack on the strict
interpretation of the rules. The intent of the rule is to prevent mass
posting by every Tom, Dick, and Harry that puts something up on e-Bay, not
helpful posts by our fellow denizens.

2) In that line, a Google search turns up thousands of posts from Glenn
over several years -- he's certainly a major force here. I also did a
similar search on each of the posters below, a record of zero and two.

3) Glenn has several times called the groups' attention to eBay auctions
where he was not the seller and has saved me several thousand dollars by so
doing. Losing that sort of information would take away a part of the value
of this group to me. He also occasionally mentions other special sources
which have saved me money. Such posts are entirely appropriate.

4) If anybody here takes this seriously, then the next time one of us wants
to sell something on eBay, send a note to another of us and have the
disinterested party call everyone's attention to it. Does that sound silly?
It should.


--
Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com


...
wrote in message
...
This is a very self-serving post - the charter says no advertising -
it doesn't say no COMMERCIAL advertising - it says NO advertising -
period.

The rest of your statement is holier-than-thou justification.



On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:06:14 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



wrote:
You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

I debated whether to mention the auction but decided that, while it may
fall into a grey area, it was probably appropriate. The charter does
prohibit advertising but we are a unique and relatively small group with

some rather unique needs. We also end up with surplus material that only
others in this group can use.

Because of design changes and over-purchases anyone building a large
boat will have some extra material that others in the group could use.
While I completely agree with the ban on commerical posting, prohibiting
an anouncement of the availability of this material eliminates some of
the value of this newsgroup.

PLEASE! DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS MESSAGE!
 

It is probably better that we just ignore this. The worst part about
"for sale" anouncements is the number of spam police messages and
responses to them. If we let this and other threads like it get out of
control we may as well ask Jax and Capt N*^# for their opinion and
forget about boat building.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

Glenn Ashmore wrote in message news:3Yiqb.4673$62.1537@lakeread04...
Should have thought to mentioned it here first but I just listed a new
Globemaster SP-5C compass on eBay. After I built the binnacle with an
instrument pod I realized that it would be to high for easy viewing so I
bought a flush mount. One of you guys building a larger boat might
could use it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=2441483 980


Hey Glenn, next time try putting the ebay link in your sig file with
the spade anchor link... then this guy can go home and kick his cat!
BTW I sell, boats, kits, plans, and all kinds of other stuff at
SmallBoats.com! Please visit SmallBoats.com for more information on
how you can give me lot's of money for very little service, only
attitude. If you really want to get good glue, try Jaques over at
Bateau.com, or Larry over at Raka.com. Also Brian Dixon, sorry can't
remember the URL right now, but he sells glue too. These guys all use
the glue they sell, I like that, I have used Raka for years myself. If
you want Wood, try Condon Lumber in NY. Or if you are out on the
Island try Roberts Plywood, at http://www.getwood.com or Wood-Ply
Lumber in Freeport at woodply.com. For great plans for almost anything
contemporary try Bateau.com, Glenl.com or stevproj.com. I get my ring
nails at GlenL too. For spreading glue I use Ziplock freezer bags by
SC Johnson and Co. don't know their site either. For flotation I use
blue dock billett by Dow Chemical and near the engine or fuel, two
part by.... umm... oh later. Now for you my friend, when things go bad
I use crying towels by Scott Paper, recliner by lazyboy, scotch by
Dewars, and getting a grip, priceless...
Later, Scotty from SmallBoats.com.... The best damn small boat site on
the net!

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

I'd vote for an amendment of the charter. Advertising not more than once a
month per individual or company. Sound good? Who owns the charter? I've
found lots of good deals and gotten good leads by seeing advertising here,
personal and otherwise. It's only a hassle if it gets carried away.

NOTE: It takes less time to click onto a new post than it does to respond to
an ad with anti-advertising complaints. Your time is valuable...use it
wisely ;)

Brian


wrote in message
...
This is a very self-serving post - the charter says no advertising -
it doesn't say no COMMERCIAL advertising - it says NO advertising -
period.

The rest of your statement is holier-than-thou justification.



On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:06:14 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



wrote:
You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

I debated whether to mention the auction but decided that, while it may
fall into a grey area, it was probably appropriate. The charter does
prohibit advertising but we are a unique and relatively small group with
some rather unique needs. We also end up with surplus material that only
others in this group can use.

Because of design changes and over-purchases anyone building a large
boat will have some extra material that others in the group could use.
While I completely agree with the ban on commerical posting, prohibiting
an anouncement of the availability of this material eliminates some of
the value of this newsgroup.

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

Yeah, but only once a week when nobody's around.


"steveb" wrote in message
...
" lifted the trapdoor,
peered around and wrote:

This is a very self-serving post - the charter says no advertising -
it doesn't say no COMMERCIAL advertising - it says NO advertising -
period.

The rest of your statement is holier-than-thou justification.

Some people are just so friggin' self-satisfied

PLONK

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 22:01:03 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 11:44:56 -0800, "
wrote:

This is a very self-serving post - the charter says no advertising -
it doesn't say no COMMERCIAL advertising - it says NO advertising -
period.

You're a nut case.

Much ado about absolutely nothing whatsoever.

I don't think so. Anonymous posters who send inflammatory notes
are called "trolls". They are not necessarily nutty - just malicious.

Brian Whatcott Altus OK

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

It's a nice compass that Glenn's selling ...too bad I also need a flush
mount for my boat project. Thanks for letting us know about the compass,
Glenn. Nice heads up. Hope you sell it without delay. Somebody will
appreciate it.

Brian

--
My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass


"Jim Woodward" jameslwoodward at attbi dot com wrote in message
...
Comments:

1) When one spends as much time on this group being helpful to others as
Glenn does, I'm willing to cut him considerable slack on the strict
interpretation of the rules. The intent of the rule is to prevent mass
posting by every Tom, Dick, and Harry that puts something up on e-Bay, not
helpful posts by our fellow denizens.

2) In that line, a Google search turns up thousands of posts from Glenn
over several years -- he's certainly a major force here. I also did a
similar search on each of the posters below, a record of zero and two.

3) Glenn has several times called the groups' attention to eBay auctions
where he was not the seller and has saved me several thousand dollars by
so
doing. Losing that sort of information would take away a part of the value
of this group to me. He also occasionally mentions other special sources
which have saved me money. Such posts are entirely appropriate.

4) If anybody here takes this seriously, then the next time one of us
wants
to sell something on eBay, send a note to another of us and have the
disinterested party call everyone's attention to it. Does that sound
silly?
It should.


--
Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com


..
wrote in message
...
This is a very self-serving post - the charter says no advertising -
it doesn't say no COMMERCIAL advertising - it says NO advertising -
period.

The rest of your statement is holier-than-thou justification.



On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:06:14 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



wrote:
You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

I debated whether to mention the auction but decided that, while it may
fall into a grey area, it was probably appropriate. The charter does
prohibit advertising but we are a unique and relatively small group
with

some rather unique needs. We also end up with surplus material that
only
others in this group can use.

Because of design changes and over-purchases anyone building a large
boat will have some extra material that others in the group could use.
While I completely agree with the ban on commerical posting,
prohibiting
an anouncement of the availability of this material eliminates some of
the value of this newsgroup.

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

Since you asked, Scotty, my URL is
http://www.advantagecomposites.com/catalog . Check our prices against RAKA
....you might like them. We also carry paint, adhesives, fillers, epoxy
pumps by Michael Engineering ...lots of stuff, all discount prices too, more
stuff coming. Accurate shipping calcs, not block rates. We aim to save you
money... meet or beat pricing. Now, how's that Pussy-Cow song go? Stop on
by and I'll ride a leopard before I'd let you get away without a good deal!
Call me Cal! Cal Wortybuns!

Brian

PS: My genuine apologies folks. Ad is real. So are the jokes.

--
My boat project: http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass


"Backyard Renegade" wrote in message
om...
Glenn Ashmore wrote in message
news:3Yiqb.4673$62.1537@lakeread04...
Should have thought to mentioned it here first but I just listed a new
Globemaster SP-5C compass on eBay. After I built the binnacle with an
instrument pod I realized that it would be to high for easy viewing so I
bought a flush mount. One of you guys building a larger boat might
could use it.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=2441483 980


Hey Glenn, next time try putting the ebay link in your sig file with
the spade anchor link... then this guy can go home and kick his cat!
BTW I sell, boats, kits, plans, and all kinds of other stuff at
SmallBoats.com! Please visit SmallBoats.com for more information on
how you can give me lot's of money for very little service, only
attitude. If you really want to get good glue, try Jaques over at
Bateau.com, or Larry over at Raka.com. Also Brian Dixon, sorry can't
remember the URL right now, but he sells glue too. These guys all use
the glue they sell, I like that, I have used Raka for years myself. If
you want Wood, try Condon Lumber in NY. Or if you are out on the
Island try Roberts Plywood, at http://www.getwood.com or Wood-Ply
Lumber in Freeport at woodply.com. For great plans for almost anything
contemporary try Bateau.com, Glenl.com or stevproj.com. I get my ring
nails at GlenL too. For spreading glue I use Ziplock freezer bags by
SC Johnson and Co. don't know their site either. For flotation I use
blue dock billett by Dow Chemical and near the engine or fuel, two
part by.... umm... oh later. Now for you my friend, when things go bad
I use crying towels by Scott Paper, recliner by lazyboy, scotch by
Dewars, and getting a grip, priceless...
Later, Scotty from SmallBoats.com.... The best damn small boat site on
the net!

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 23:42:16 GMT, "Brian D"
tempted fate with:

I'd vote for an amendment of the charter. Advertising not more than once a
month per individual or company. Sound good? Who owns the charter? I've
found lots of good deals and gotten good leads by seeing advertising here,
personal and otherwise. It's only a hassle if it gets carried away.
I went to the trouble to check the "official" charter in the uunet
control messages and the newusers ftp archive. I actually saw nothing
about advertising, pro or con, which is a bit unusual. This is the
charter as voted on at the groups formation. I am not familiar with
any procedure for modifying it. The few times I've seen an attempt to
modify a charter it got pretty acrimonious, since every persons
opinion about how to do it is as good as another's. Still, it seems
generally accepted that having a call for discussion followed by a 2/3
majority vote by anyone who cares enough to participate is fair. In
order to make it stick, someone needs to post the new charter at
regular intervals, and provide a homepage for it.

Disclosu I almost have a horse in this race. I occasionally post
an advertisement in a couple of groups under an "Announce" header when
I release a product. I would never purposefully do this in a group
that does not *explicitly* allow it, but whether it is "legal" is a
matter of opinion. The most important opinion, of course, is that of
the poster. Many people seem to feel that it is a netiquette
violation, but falls short of abuse.

All that said, coming down on a regular and valuable contributor for
letting the community know that an on-topic item is available is nuts.
In my opinion (see above.)

Returning to lurk mode;

__________________________________________________ __________
Glen "Wiley" Wilson usenet1 SPAMNIX at worldwidewiley dot com
To reply, lose the capitals and do the obvious.

Take a look at cpRepeater, my NMEA data integrator, repeater, and
logger at http://www.worldwidewiley.com/

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

This peaked my interest. It took a little time to find it but Wiley is
right. The charter says nothing about for saale messages. While I
certainly do not believe anyone wants us to be flooded with commercial
messages being able to share our surplus could be an asset.

I don't feel guilty any more. Now let's end this thread and get on with
boat building.

BTW, anybody need a couple of 37 gallon Kracor poly fuel tanks? ;-)

Brian D wrote:

I'd vote for an amendment of the charter. Advertising not more than once a
month per individual or company. Sound good? Who owns the charter? I've
found lots of good deals and gotten good leads by seeing advertising here,
personal and otherwise. It's only a hassle if it gets carried away.

NOTE: It takes less time to click onto a new post than it does to respond to
an ad with anti-advertising complaints. Your time is valuable...use it
wisely ;)

Brian


wrote in message
...

This is a very self-serving post - the charter says no advertising -
it doesn't say no COMMERCIAL advertising - it says NO advertising -
period.

The rest of your statement is holier-than-thou justification.



On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:06:14 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



wrote:

You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

I debated whether to mention the auction but decided that, while it may
fall into a grey area, it was probably appropriate. The charter does
prohibit advertising but we are a unique and relatively small group with
some rather unique needs. We also end up with surplus material that only
others in this group can use.

Because of design changes and over-purchases anyone building a large
boat will have some extra material that others in the group could use.
While I completely agree with the ban on commerical posting, prohibiting
an anouncement of the availability of this material eliminates some of
the value of this newsgroup.




--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

Brian D wrote:

I'd vote for an amendment of the charter. snip

Sounds good to me.
Jim
Conlin Boatworks

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

"Brian D" wrote in message news:s5Wqb.142137$e01.477842@attbi_s02...
I'd vote for an amendment of the charter. Advertising not more than once a
month per individual or company. Sound good? Who owns the charter? I've
found lots of good deals and gotten good leads by seeing advertising here,
personal and otherwise. It's only a hassle if it gets carried away.

I think changing the charter is a rediculous idea! First of all, who
cares? I have never read, and never intend to read the charter. If
there is a charter, it was written last century and should be left in
the electronic box it is buried in. RBB is one of the best groups I
attend. We are self policing and very tolerant. Let's not let one lone
troll ruin a good thing, this guy is not even a bump in the road from
what I can see.
Scotty from SmallBoats.com



NOTE: It takes less time to click onto a new post than it does to respond to
an ad with anti-advertising complaints. Your time is valuable...use it
wisely ;)

Brian


wrote in message
...
This is a very self-serving post - the charter says no advertising -
it doesn't say no COMMERCIAL advertising - it says NO advertising -
period.

The rest of your statement is holier-than-thou justification.



On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:06:14 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



wrote:
You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

I debated whether to mention the auction but decided that, while it may
fall into a grey area, it was probably appropriate. The charter does
prohibit advertising but we are a unique and relatively small group with
some rather unique needs. We also end up with surplus material that only
others in this group can use.

Because of design changes and over-purchases anyone building a large
boat will have some extra material that others in the group could use.
While I completely agree with the ban on commerical posting, prohibiting
an anouncement of the availability of this material eliminates some of
the value of this newsgroup.

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay - Verdict -
 

Quiet in the court room, please.

Mr. Glenn Ashmore from Macon, Georgia, has been found
guilty of advertising in this news group the fact that
he is selling a Ritchie Globemaster compass on eBay.

Mr. Ashmore is sentenced to updating his web site situated
at http://www.rutuonline.com, which this high court found
to have suffered undue neglect during the past months.

The update of the said web site shall be comprehensive,
i.e. it shall encompass, but not be limited to, all
projects that have been finished or are under way in
connection with the construction of the 45' cutter Rutu.
Evidence for the existence of several such projects is
available to the court from this news group.

Furthermore, this high court rules that Mr. Ashmore, upon
comprehensive web site coverage of such projects, shall
have the right to announce the sale of any surplus
materials from said projects in this news group.

Appeals against this decision may be directed to /dev/nul.

The session is closed.

Judge Dread.



Glenn Ashmore wrote:

Should have thought to mentioned it here first but I just listed a new
Globemaster SP-5C compass on eBay. After I built the binnacle with an
instrument pod I realized that it would be to high for easy viewing so I
bought a flush mount. One of you guys building a larger boat might
could use it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=2441483 980

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

Glenn,

More info on the fuel tanks? Kracor's are pretty good. I'm planning on
custom aluminum for my particular application, but there may be several of
the other Tolman builders who may be interested. If you've got pix and
price, I'm happy to pass on the info.

Thanx,
Brian
or (Remove
the capital letters that mean 'no spam')

My project:
http://www.advantagecomposites.com/tongass


"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:iVZqb.10813$62.3237@lakeread04...
This peaked my interest. It took a little time to find it but Wiley is
right. The charter says nothing about for saale messages. While I
certainly do not believe anyone wants us to be flooded with commercial
messages being able to share our surplus could be an asset.

I don't feel guilty any more. Now let's end this thread and get on with
boat building.

BTW, anybody need a couple of 37 gallon Kracor poly fuel tanks? ;-)

Brian D wrote:

I'd vote for an amendment of the charter. Advertising not more than
once a
month per individual or company. Sound good? Who owns the charter?
I've
found lots of good deals and gotten good leads by seeing advertising
here,
personal and otherwise. It's only a hassle if it gets carried away.

NOTE: It takes less time to click onto a new post than it does to
respond to
an ad with anti-advertising complaints. Your time is valuable...use it
wisely ;)

Brian


wrote in message
...

This is a very self-serving post - the charter says no advertising -
it doesn't say no COMMERCIAL advertising - it says NO advertising -
period.

The rest of your statement is holier-than-thou justification.



On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 06:06:14 -0500, Glenn Ashmore
wrote:



wrote:

You know this is really illegal and unwarranted by a man of your
caliber - do we have to write your ISP and demand satisfaction.

I debated whether to mention the auction but decided that, while it may
fall into a grey area, it was probably appropriate. The charter does
prohibit advertising but we are a unique and relatively small group
with
some rather unique needs. We also end up with surplus material that
only
others in this group can use.

Because of design changes and over-purchases anyone building a large
boat will have some extra material that others in the group could use.
While I completely agree with the ban on commerical posting,
prohibiting
an anouncement of the availability of this material eliminates some of
the value of this newsgroup.




--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

Brian D wrote:

Glenn,

More info on the fuel tanks? Kracor's are pretty good. I'm planning on
custom aluminum for my particular application, but there may be several of
the other Tolman builders who may be interested. If you've got pix and
price, I'm happy to pass on the info.

I checked the labels this afternoon. They are 36 gallon Kracor model #
88-7003. 14W x 31L x 20.5H. They have float type senders, unscreened
pickup tubes and anti-syphon hose connections. I installed them and
then had second thoughts about how high they made the center of gravity
of the fuel so pulled them out and ordered custom aluminum tanks from
Ezell.

I paid about $300 each for them but will entertain any reasonable offer.
What really surprised me was that the custom made aluminum tanks cost
only $50 a piece more.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

I hope you won't think this too off topic. Just pretend I'm talking about a
boat fuel tank and not the one off my antique John Deere.

I'm looking for information, opinions, tips and tricks as related to tank
repair short of replacing and or paying a shop to do the work, i.e.
do-it-yourself repair.

I'm considering JB Weld for the holes and cracks, then using one of the many
(open for favorites) liquid, normally three part, fuel tank repair kits.

I know it is a rule of Neptune that any tank on a boat will leak, not if,
when. So I know you guys have the experience.

Fred

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:xxgrb.12405$62.9567@lakeread04...
Brian D wrote:

Glenn,

More info on the fuel tanks? Kracor's are pretty good. I'm planning
on
custom aluminum for my particular application, but there may be several
of
....

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

You might ask that question on rec.crafts.metalworking. Boat tanks have
their own set of problems but antique tractors have a completely
different set. When a boat's fuel tank starts leaking the best solution
for safety's sake is to rip it out reweld or replace it. You will
probably never find a replacement tank for an antique John Deer and a
poorly doe repair or fitting a new non-original one will seriously hurt
the value.

JB weld might be a temporary fix for small holds but it is not going to
stand up to the vibration on a crack. Better to pull and clean the tank
and send it to a restorer. He will weld or silver solder it and grind
the welds down. A neighbor is restoring a 1941 Indian Sport Scout and
asked me to weld up some holes in the tank. The tank was rusted beyond
anything I would have attempted to fix so I told him to send it off to
Moyer Fuel Tank Renu in Greensburg, PA. They split the tank, blasted it
inside and out, rebuilt the major deterioration and applied a
proprietary 3 coat baked on polymer system. It came back looking like
it had just come from the factory and I don't recall it being all that
expensive. Something like $250.

To keep this boat related: The also restore old outboard tanks if you
really want to fix up that old Seagull or Martin Silver streak. :-)

Fred Williams wrote:

I hope you won't think this too off topic. Just pretend I'm talking about a
boat fuel tank and not the one off my antique John Deere.

I'm looking for information, opinions, tips and tricks as related to tank
repair short of replacing and or paying a shop to do the work, i.e.
do-it-yourself repair.

I'm considering JB Weld for the holes and cracks, then using one of the many
(open for favorites) liquid, normally three part, fuel tank repair kits.

I know it is a rule of Neptune that any tank on a boat will leak, not if,
when. So I know you guys have the experience.

Fred

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:xxgrb.12405$62.9567@lakeread04...

Brian D wrote:


Glenn,

More info on the fuel tanks? Kracor's are pretty good. I'm planning

on

custom aluminum for my particular application, but there may be several

of
...



--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay - Verdict -
 

Diver wrote:

Quiet in the court room, please.

Mr. Glenn Ashmore from Macon, Georgia, has been found
guilty of advertising in this news group the fact that
he is selling a Ritchie Globemaster compass on eBay.

Mr. Ashmore is sentenced to updating his web site situated
at http://www.rutuonline.com, which this high court found
to have suffered undue neglect during the past months.

The update of the said web site shall be comprehensive,
i.e. it shall encompass, but not be limited to, all
projects that have been finished or are under way in
connection with the construction of the 45' cutter Rutu.
Evidence for the existence of several such projects is
available to the court from this news group.

Furthermore, this high court rules that Mr. Ashmore, upon
comprehensive web site coverage of such projects, shall
have the right to announce the sale of any surplus
materials from said projects in this news group.

Appeals against this decision may be directed to /dev/nul.

The session is closed.

Judge Dread.

Oh S*$&! I have to plead guilty. I will don my hair shirt and try to
serve some of my sentence this week. ;-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

Thanks Glenn! Just what I was looking for. I'll Check out the metalworing
group, I just hope I don't get to like it too much, my life doesn't have
room for another "interesting" news group :-(

Fred

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:nWirb.12583$62.2938@lakeread04...
You might ask that question on rec.crafts.metalworking. Boat tanks have
their own set of problems but antique tractors have a completely
different set. When a boat's fuel tank starts leaking the best solution
for safety's sake is to rip it out reweld or replace it. You will
probably never find a replacement tank for an antique John Deer and a
poorly doe repair or fitting a new non-original one will seriously hurt
the value.

JB weld might be a temporary fix for small holds but it is not going to
stand up to the vibration on a crack. Better to pull and clean the tank
and send it to a restorer. He will weld or silver solder it and grind
...

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

The antique auto people (I owned a Bentley once) use proprietary sealers
made for sealing small leaks -- drain the tank, dump in a quart of sealer,
slosh around for half an hour, let it dry -- which seem to work better than
you might expect. Not, certainly, suitable for a boat, but like radiator
sealants, something that may get another year or three before you have to
bite the bullet.

Try Hemmings for an ad, or a Web search.

--
Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com


..
"Fred Williams" wrote in message
...
Thanks Glenn! Just what I was looking for. I'll Check out the
metalworing
group, I just hope I don't get to like it too much, my life doesn't have
room for another "interesting" news group :-(

Fred

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:nWirb.12583$62.2938@lakeread04...
You might ask that question on rec.crafts.metalworking. Boat tanks have
their own set of problems but antique tractors have a completely
different set. When a boat's fuel tank starts leaking the best solution
for safety's sake is to rip it out reweld or replace it. You will
probably never find a replacement tank for an antique John Deer and a
poorly doe repair or fitting a new non-original one will seriously hurt
the value.

JB weld might be a temporary fix for small holds but it is not going to
stand up to the vibration on a crack. Better to pull and clean the tank
and send it to a restorer. He will weld or silver solder it and grind
...

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay
 

Thanks, Glenn. I passed the info on just now (Sunday). Told them to check
here or via your Rutu web site.

Brian

"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:xxgrb.12405$62.9567@lakeread04...
Brian D wrote:

Glenn,

More info on the fuel tanks? Kracor's are pretty good. I'm planning
on
custom aluminum for my particular application, but there may be several
of
the other Tolman builders who may be interested. If you've got pix and
price, I'm happy to pass on the info.

I checked the labels this afternoon. They are 36 gallon Kracor model #
88-7003. 14W x 31L x 20.5H. They have float type senders, unscreened
pickup tubes and anti-syphon hose connections. I installed them and
then had second thoughts about how high they made the center of gravity
of the fuel so pulled them out and ordered custom aluminum tanks from
Ezell.

I paid about $300 each for them but will entertain any reasonable offer.
What really surprised me was that the custom made aluminum tanks cost
only $50 a piece more.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com

Ritchie Globemaster on eBay - Verdict -
 

I was expecting an appeal on the basis that the sentence was too severe and
would distract from working on boats .....
"Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message
news:2_irb.12584$62.1568@lakeread04...

Diver wrote:

Quiet in the court room, please.

Mr. Glenn Ashmore from Macon, Georgia, has been found
guilty of advertising in this news group the fact that
he is selling a Ritchie Globemaster compass on eBay.

Mr. Ashmore is sentenced to updating his web site situated
at http://www.rutuonline.com, which this high court found
to have suffered undue neglect during the past months.

The update of the said web site shall be comprehensive,
i.e. it shall encompass, but not be limited to, all
projects that have been finished or are under way in
connection with the construction of the 45' cutter Rutu.
Evidence for the existence of several such projects is
available to the court from this news group.

Furthermore, this high court rules that Mr. Ashmore, upon
comprehensive web site coverage of such projects, shall
have the right to announce the sale of any surplus
materials from said projects in this news group.

Appeals against this decision may be directed to /dev/nul.

The session is closed.

Judge Dread.

Oh S*$&! I have to plead guilty. I will don my hair shirt and try to
serve some of my sentence this week. ;-)

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com