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Glenn Ashmore November 3rd 03 04:24 PM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 
That is about right for Proset 125/229. FGCI laminating resin is about
half that price but about twice the CPS (they don't state any number but
that would be my estimate.) Raka is even thicker.

Courtney Thomas wrote:
I need 5 to 10 gal of a light low viscosity epoxy [approx 600 cps @ 70
deg Fahrenheit] and have not discovered anything for less than about
$60/gal.

Is that about as good as I'm going to do ?

Thank you,


--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
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Courtney Thomas November 3rd 03 05:37 PM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 
I need 5 to 10 gal of a light low viscosity epoxy [approx 600 cps @ 70
deg Fahrenheit] and have not discovered anything for less than about
$60/gal.

Is that about as good as I'm going to do ?

Thank you,
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC


mike worrall November 4th 03 03:55 AM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 
I'm sure Paul Oman will chime in here, and though I find his web-site
(www.epoxyproducts.com) difficult to navigate, the prices for their
'Basic No-Blush 2 Epoxy' and 'Premium No-Blush Epoxy' - both with a
mixed viscosity of 600 cps, neither of which I have used are
considerably cheaper than $60/gal in the 15+ gallon quantities.

There are now '.pdf' data sheets on the site, which include a good
ammount of technical data.

Possibly worth a look.

Mike Worrall
Los Angeles

Lew Hodgett November 4th 03 04:11 AM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 
Subject

I'd be broke at that price, but then agin, I buy in 500 lb drum lots.


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Brian D November 4th 03 06:31 AM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 

Anybody know the mixed viscosity of the System Three resins? The general
purpose resin is 550cps at 77 F and is combined with hardeners at 2:1 ratio
(1100cps for #1 Fast, 900cps for #2 Medium, and 350cps for #3 Slow). For
Clear Coat, the ratio is about the same and the resin is 580-600cps,
hardener 190-210cps.

At our store, the 7.5 gallons of general purpose epoxy (5 gal resin + 2.5
gal hardener) comes to $38.37 per gallon. Clear Coat comes out at $54.80
per gallon in a 7.5 gallon kit.

Brian

PS: Remove 'tongass' from link below, or follow the link and click on the
banner ad at the top.

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"mike worrall" wrote in message
m...
I'm sure Paul Oman will chime in here, and though I find his web-site
(www.epoxyproducts.com) difficult to navigate, the prices for their
'Basic No-Blush 2 Epoxy' and 'Premium No-Blush Epoxy' - both with a
mixed viscosity of 600 cps, neither of which I have used are
considerably cheaper than $60/gal in the 15+ gallon quantities.

There are now '.pdf' data sheets on the site, which include a good
ammount of technical data.

Possibly worth a look.

Mike Worrall
Los Angeles




Brian Nystrom November 4th 03 12:43 PM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 


Glenn Ashmore wrote:

That is about right for Proset 125/229. FGCI laminating resin is
about half that price but about twice the CPS (they don't state any
number but that would be my estimate.) Raka is even thicker.


Really? I haven't used it yet, but everything I've heard about Raka is
that it's one of the lower viscocity epoxies on the market. It's
supposed to provide very rapid wet-out.

--
Regards

Brian


Glenn Ashmore November 4th 03 01:29 PM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 


Brian Nystrom wrote:

Glenn Ashmore wrote:

That is about right for Proset 125/229. FGCI laminating resin is
about half that price but about twice the CPS (they don't state any
number but that would be my estimate.) Raka is even thicker.



Really? I haven't used it yet, but everything I've heard about Raka
is that it's one of the lower viscocity epoxies on the market. It's
supposed to provide very rapid wet-out.


That has definitely NOT been my experience. I use Proset and West most
but have used Maas, S3 FGCI and Raka. Raka was the thickest. The Maas
low viscosity resin was probably the thinest.

--
Glenn Ashmore

I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack
there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com
Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com


Mat Wheeler November 4th 03 06:47 PM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 
Hi

CHEM-SURF'S claims to have surplus resin at $1.80 pound or about $14.40 gallon
http://www.chem-surf.com/recycling/plastics.html

Has anyone had any luck with them?

Thanks

Mat

Jacques Mertens November 4th 03 07:37 PM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 
Our System Three resin sells for a lot less: $ 39.00 a gallon per 5 gallons.
http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/products.php?id=3

I am not certain of the exact viscosity because it depends on the hardener.
The resin is around or below 600 centipoise. In all cases, I would test a
sample: viscosity is only one factor and viscosity is really difficult to
measure anyway. The standard is Haake but who knows what is used?
I would test.

Once you go above 15 gallons, we can supply Phase 2 which has a lower
viscosity.
--
Jacques
http://www.bateau.com


"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
I need 5 to 10 gal of a light low viscosity epoxy [approx 600 cps @ 70
deg Fahrenheit] and have not discovered anything for less than about
$60/gal.

Is that about as good as I'm going to do ?

Thank you,
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC




Just Us November 4th 03 11:36 PM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 

"Mat Wheeler" wrote in message
om...
Hi

CHEM-SURF'S claims to have surplus resin at $1.80 pound or about $14.40

gallon
http://www.chem-surf.com/recycling/plastics.html

Has anyone had any luck with them?

Thanks

Mat


Boy, if you can figure out what all the different resins are, it might be a
good deal.
I'm not familiar enough with the different types they list.
Would be a shot in the dark, and it's enough work building once, I don't
want to do it twice because of cheap resin.




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Greg November 5th 03 01:16 AM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 
Jacques,
I am familiar with the West 105 resin and associated hardners. How does the
System 3 compare? I have had trouble finding the time and money to become
expert enough trying different epoxies. West is running me around $80 a
gallon including the hardner, but it works really well for the stictch and
glue boats like the PK78 and the Nymph I am now completing. I would dearly
love to lower my cost. Will/can you advise us in a way that the non-chemist
would appreciate and understand the answer? You are an expert boat builder
and designer. I value your opinion.
Thankyou,
Greg Luckett

"Jacques Mertens" wrote in message
. ..
Our System Three resin sells for a lot less: $ 39.00 a gallon per 5

gallons.
http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/products.php?id=3

I am not certain of the exact viscosity because it depends on the

hardener.
The resin is around or below 600 centipoise. In all cases, I would test a
sample: viscosity is only one factor and viscosity is really difficult to
measure anyway. The standard is Haake but who knows what is used?
I would test.

Once you go above 15 gallons, we can supply Phase 2 which has a lower
viscosity.
--
Jacques
http://www.bateau.com


"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
I need 5 to 10 gal of a light low viscosity epoxy [approx 600 cps @ 70
deg Fahrenheit] and have not discovered anything for less than about
$60/gal.

Is that about as good as I'm going to do ?

Thank you,
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC







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Jacques Mertens November 6th 03 03:48 PM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 
We choose to sell System Three for several reasons.
I had experience with WEST, System Three and other resins well before
deciding on which one to sell.
For our applications, all name brand resins produce a good result. What
differs is the ease of use and price.
System Three will blush a lot less than WEST. It is more forgiving in case
of small mistakes in the mixing ratio. It wets the glass easier and has a
lower viscosity.


"Greg" wrote in message
...
Jacques,
I am familiar with the West 105 resin and associated hardners. How does

the
System 3 compare? I have had trouble finding the time and money to become
expert enough trying different epoxies. West is running me around $80 a
gallon including the hardner, but it works really well for the stictch and
glue boats like the PK78 and the Nymph I am now completing. I would

dearly
love to lower my cost. Will/can you advise us in a way that the

non-chemist
would appreciate and understand the answer? You are an expert boat

builder
and designer. I value your opinion.
Thankyou,
Greg Luckett

"Jacques Mertens" wrote in message
. ..
Our System Three resin sells for a lot less: $ 39.00 a gallon per 5

gallons.
http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/products.php?id=3

I am not certain of the exact viscosity because it depends on the

hardener.
The resin is around or below 600 centipoise. In all cases, I would test

a
sample: viscosity is only one factor and viscosity is really difficult

to
measure anyway. The standard is Haake but who knows what is used?
I would test.

Once you go above 15 gallons, we can supply Phase 2 which has a lower
viscosity.
--
Jacques
http://www.bateau.com


"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
I need 5 to 10 gal of a light low viscosity epoxy [approx 600 cps @ 70
deg Fahrenheit] and have not discovered anything for less than about
$60/gal.

Is that about as good as I'm going to do ?

Thank you,
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC







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Greg November 8th 03 02:35 PM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 
Jacques,
Excellent answer. Exactly the type of advise I was hoping for.
Thankyou,
Greg Luckett

"Jacques Mertens" wrote in message
.. .
We choose to sell System Three for several reasons.
I had experience with WEST, System Three and other resins well before
deciding on which one to sell.
For our applications, all name brand resins produce a good result. What
differs is the ease of use and price.
System Three will blush a lot less than WEST. It is more forgiving in case
of small mistakes in the mixing ratio. It wets the glass easier and has a
lower viscosity.


"Greg" wrote in message
...
Jacques,
I am familiar with the West 105 resin and associated hardners. How does

the
System 3 compare? I have had trouble finding the time and money to

become
expert enough trying different epoxies. West is running me around $80 a
gallon including the hardner, but it works really well for the stictch

and
glue boats like the PK78 and the Nymph I am now completing. I would

dearly
love to lower my cost. Will/can you advise us in a way that the

non-chemist
would appreciate and understand the answer? You are an expert boat

builder
and designer. I value your opinion.
Thankyou,
Greg Luckett

"Jacques Mertens" wrote in message
. ..
Our System Three resin sells for a lot less: $ 39.00 a gallon per 5

gallons.
http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/products.php?id=3

I am not certain of the exact viscosity because it depends on the

hardener.
The resin is around or below 600 centipoise. In all cases, I would

test
a
sample: viscosity is only one factor and viscosity is really difficult

to
measure anyway. The standard is Haake but who knows what is used?
I would test.

Once you go above 15 gallons, we can supply Phase 2 which has a lower
viscosity.
--
Jacques
http://www.bateau.com


"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
I need 5 to 10 gal of a light low viscosity epoxy [approx 600 cps @

70
deg Fahrenheit] and have not discovered anything for less than about
$60/gal.

Is that about as good as I'm going to do ?

Thank you,
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC







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Greg November 9th 03 04:10 PM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 
I ordered a sample kit from System Three. The next boat on my list to build
is a Spindrift 12 from B&B. I have had the plan set since early this year.
I may well use System Three instead of West Systems.
Thanks again Jacques,
Greg.

"Greg" wrote in message
...
Jacques,
Excellent answer. Exactly the type of advise I was hoping for.
Thankyou,
Greg Luckett

"Jacques Mertens" wrote in message
.. .
We choose to sell System Three for several reasons.
I had experience with WEST, System Three and other resins well before
deciding on which one to sell.
For our applications, all name brand resins produce a good result. What
differs is the ease of use and price.
System Three will blush a lot less than WEST. It is more forgiving in

case
of small mistakes in the mixing ratio. It wets the glass easier and has

a
lower viscosity.


"Greg" wrote in message
...
Jacques,
I am familiar with the West 105 resin and associated hardners. How

does
the
System 3 compare? I have had trouble finding the time and money to

become
expert enough trying different epoxies. West is running me around $80

a
gallon including the hardner, but it works really well for the stictch

and
glue boats like the PK78 and the Nymph I am now completing. I would

dearly
love to lower my cost. Will/can you advise us in a way that the

non-chemist
would appreciate and understand the answer? You are an expert boat

builder
and designer. I value your opinion.
Thankyou,
Greg Luckett

"Jacques Mertens" wrote in message
. ..
Our System Three resin sells for a lot less: $ 39.00 a gallon per 5
gallons.
http://www.boatbuildercentral.com/products.php?id=3

I am not certain of the exact viscosity because it depends on the
hardener.
The resin is around or below 600 centipoise. In all cases, I would

test
a
sample: viscosity is only one factor and viscosity is really

difficult
to
measure anyway. The standard is Haake but who knows what is used?
I would test.

Once you go above 15 gallons, we can supply Phase 2 which has a

lower
viscosity.
--
Jacques
http://www.bateau.com


"Courtney Thomas" wrote in message
...
I need 5 to 10 gal of a light low viscosity epoxy [approx 600 cps

@
70
deg Fahrenheit] and have not discovered anything for less than

about
$60/gal.

Is that about as good as I'm going to do ?

Thank you,
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC







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Paul Oman January 1st 04 05:50 PM

5 gal epoxy prices < $60/gal ?
 
Courtney Thomas wrote:

I need 5 to 10 gal of a light low viscosity epoxy [approx 600 cps @ 70
deg Fahrenheit] and have not discovered anything for less than about
$60/gal.

Is that about as good as I'm going to do ?

Thank you,
--
Courtney Thomas
s/v Mutiny
lying Oriental, NC


------------

We offer a 175 cps clear epoxy with very little or no blush for a good bit
less than that price in 1.5 gallon units. Sold as a thin general purpose
epoxy, also a sealer (add solvent to make a penetrating epoxy) I used it
personally to refinish a bathroom sink counter

nuff said.
paul oman
www.epoxyproducts.com/marine.html





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