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I have brought cars and boats in from out of state and I only had to show
evidence that I paid sales tax equal to or more than the WA sales tax. If
not, they will charge the difference (only).


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Brian said:
4. when moving from another state they tax your car on the new price of

the
equivalent vehicle, even if you paid sales tax in the other state.

Uhm, Excuse me, Not true.

Per Wash Dept of Lic: " Credit is given for any sales tax paid to another
state or country, if proof of the tax paid is submitted."

as detailed he http://www.dol.wa.gov/vs/tr-new.htm

If you paid sales tax *twice* then U got screwed and must have been "served"
by one of those MANY Washington State employees who has difficulty telling
the difference between their a$s and a hole in the ground.

I'm not up on the current issues related to moored vessels, but I am
familiar with bringing a vehicle in from out of state.

(¯`·._.· £ãrrÿ ·._.·´¯)


"Brian Combs" wrote in message
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Washington State has several other ideas to generate money.

1. only licensed moorings can be used-no licenses are being
granted--impound and sell all boats on non licensed moorings

2. shut down not for profit marinas because they make no profit and
therefore a percentage of the profit is not available to take

3. require that all boats from other countries that are cruising in WA
waters register the boat in WA and of course pay the appropriate sales tax
for buying the boat in WA

4. when moving from another state they tax your car on the new price of

the
equivalent vehicle, even if you paid sales tax in the other state

rumor has it that you will have to pay a death tax before you will be
permitted to die and that you will have to pay a birth tax before delivery
can proceed

Brian




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Part of the source of mis-information may come from the many many
independently operated licensing offices that provide their services for a
small fee. (probably owned by a near relative of an enterprising state DOL
employee).


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On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:48:02 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote something
.......and in reply I say!:

Last month I bought one of the company's older fleet cars for #2
daughter. Not exactly a "sweetheart deal" but definitely most favored
nation. ;-)


This was a Hyundai then? G

Please see that I have also posted empathetic material at other points
in the thread.
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Old Nick wrote:

On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 21:48:02 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote something
......and in reply I say!:


Last month I bought one of the company's older fleet cars for #2
daughter. Not exactly a "sweetheart deal" but definitely most favored
nation. ;-)



This was a Hyundai then? G


No. This was to REPLACE a Hyundai. I sure hope all those ships that
Hyundai Heavy Indutries turns out are made of something more substantial
than the stamped tin they build their cars out of.

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So if I cut down a tree on my own land and whittle it into a boat,
I have to pay sales tax on it when I register it?
When is somebody going to contest this sh-t in a court of law?
SteveJ

Glenn Ashmore wrote:
Last month I bought one of the company's older fleet cars for #2
daughter. Not exactly a "sweetheart deal" but definitely most favored
nation. ;-) Sent the title in for transfer and got a new tag. This
week I get a letter from the GA revenuers wanting to know the sales
price and asking for their pound of sales tax flesh. Casual sales of
cars have never been taxed before so I did some checking. It seems that
because the politicians are hungry for money in this budget crunch the D
of R has finally linked there computer system to Public Safety and are
tracking every title.

What has this to do with boatbuilding? DNR will be linked by next year.
Most of my material was purchased out of state or on eBay so I am
going to get hit bad. I think I will try to register before they get
linked.

This is just Georgia but most states are hunting for revenue now so
check out what your state is doing and plan accordingly if you have a
big project and be sure to have your receipts carefully documented
before you go to register your boat and get a HIN.


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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 20:19:10 -0400, Glenn Ashmore
wrote something
.......and in reply I say!:

Ah! I still do have a memory then! I recalled your rant about the
little encounter with the brick...G

This was a Hyundai then? G


No. This was to REPLACE a Hyundai. I sure hope all those ships that
Hyundai Heavy Indutries turns out are made of something more substantial
than the stamped tin they build their cars out of.


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stevej lifted the trapdoor, peered around and wrote:

When is somebody going to contest this sh-t in a court of law?


lol .... I don't know about the States, but here in the UK you can't
actually contest a Law, in a Court of Law The sole purpose of the Court
is to enforce the law.

The democratic process is the way laws are changed. By lobbying and voting,
or by direct action as in the UK "Poll Tax"

steveb
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Steveb,

We can do it both ways. Laws in the US can be challenged in court
usually on constitutional grounds and we can lobby the state and federal
legislators to change or repeal them. The first option is a check
against the second cause I don't think our elected officials have ever
repealed a law in 200 years.

Ron

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Jim Woodward
 
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I'm not at all sure you need to do a state registration before you
document the vessel with the Feds -- you may have done more current
research than I, but I think all you need to do is fill out a CG1261
as the builder. see
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/g-m/vdoc/faq.htm#10

Certainly back in the Dark Ages when I was building boats for a very
modest living, that was all we did -- no one ever went to the state
first. I know the rules have changed some, but I can't imagine say,
Washburn Doughty, getting a Maine registration on one of their tugs
before they delivered it....

Of course, in Massachusetts, at least, this won't help the sales tax
issue -- the mass Department of Revenue follows new documentations and
sends out letters.

I had a good moment on that subject with regard to Swee****er -- was
able to reply (from Papeete) that we had bought the boat in Rhode
Island and that she was now in Tahiti and that the Massachusetts use
tax probably didn't apply.

In either case, sooner would be better, as you can certainly make
improvements on your boat without paying sales tax on the labor. Make
sure your insurance agent knows, because that may be the moment when
she goes from being personal property on your homeowners insurance to
being a boat requiring her own policy.

Jim Woodward
www.mvFintry.com

Glenn Ashmore wrote in message news:bv2ib.74207$sp2.30015@lakeread04...
Last month I bought one of the company's older fleet cars for #2
daughter. Not exactly a "sweetheart deal" but definitely most favored
nation. ;-) Sent the title in for transfer and got a new tag. This
week I get a letter from the GA revenuers wanting to know the sales
price and asking for their pound of sales tax flesh. Casual sales of
cars have never been taxed before so I did some checking. It seems that
because the politicians are hungry for money in this budget crunch the D
of R has finally linked there computer system to Public Safety and are
tracking every title.

What has this to do with boatbuilding? DNR will be linked by next year.
Most of my material was purchased out of state or on eBay so I am
going to get hit bad. I think I will try to register before they get
linked.

This is just Georgia but most states are hunting for revenue now so
check out what your state is doing and plan accordingly if you have a
big project and be sure to have your receipts carefully documented
before you go to register your boat and get a HIN.

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