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engines do not stop suddenly caused by a valve sticking "closed". the valve
sticks open. That's the way things are. A junkyard engine that is corroded will have valves stuck open and closed and partially open and partially closed. It will also have pistons corroded tight and bearings corroded tight. The original post said he had ****a**** valve stuck. Than means the valve was stuck open. Hi "JAXAshby" skrev i en meddelelse ... dude, have you **ANY** idea what a camshaft does for a living? --------- What you mean is, that if the valve can't be pushed open, the valve rod will bend ? Or whatever pushes the valve will get stuck or break. P.C. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Cyber-Boat/ |
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dude, that is not the valve stuck closed but rather the lifter stuck.
Different problem. besides, the original poster did not say he had a bunch of valves stuck (how would he know if a valve were stuck closed? he couldn't for the engine wouldn't turn over, and if perhance it could be foreced over it would break the valve train, making for lots of other and obvious problems.) dude, have you **ANY** idea what a camshaft does for a living? Obvisously not. go back and play with your ticker toys. Why do you insist on insulting people, Assby?. I've seen valves stuck closed with bad hydraulic lifters. Absolutely. Esp in engines that have sat for long periods. Greg Sefton |
JAX, thats enough
Ron
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JAXAshby wrote:
The original post said he had ****a**** valve stuck. Than means the valve was stuck open. only in your world. He did not state open or closed. Nor did he state that the engine stopped suddenly. Look it up. -- I'd rather put more life in my days than put more days in my life...... |
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Dude you better get a grip, a shot cam or lifter doesn't make a valve stick closed. New cam, no problem....you mean valves not stuck anymore? A miracle, not really....it wasn't stuck to start with, Jeezus christ...do you people actually believe the **** you write? JAXAshby, I don't know why you waste your effort trying to convince morons??? It was stock till I losen it with my new camshaft ER-ER-ER... SCRATCHIN MY ASS. DAT NEW CAMS PURDY...AYEP. *falling onto the floor laughing turning purple* On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 14:32:08 GMT, Terry Spragg wrote: JAXAshby wrote: I've never seen a valve stick closed. A valve 'stuck closed' is a valve with a dead lifter or worn cam. I saw one, once, in an old chevvy van 350. New cam, no problem. stuck open "Dazed and Confuzed" skrev i en meddelelse ... Michael Schirmer Nielsen wrote: I have a valve that is stock , can i losen it easely its a mercruiser 120hp from 1978 thanks stuck open or stuck closed? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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OK Brian, settle down now. No need to be nasty. Most of these guys
don't even remember solid lifters and are not as smart as you, me and Jax. Ron |
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Brian K wrote: Dude you better get a grip, a shot cam or lifter doesn't make a valve stick closed. New cam, no problem....you mean valves not stuck anymore? A miracle, not really....it wasn't stuck to start with, Jeezus christ...do you people actually believe the **** you write? Watch the blasphemy, you'll end up in Hell. Well by stuck, you mean doesn't operate? What could possibly make a valve 'stick' closed? If it is immobile in the closed position, how is a person to know if it is 'stuck', as in a bent stem, or just 'stuck' because there is nothing on the cam or in the leaky lifter, pushrod, or rocker department to move it? If a timing chain breaks, don't most of the valves wind up 'stuck' closed? Wassa matter, nobody else to play with? I had a valve 'stuck' closed because the cam lobe and lifter bottom was all gone. I'd call it stuck, 'cause it didn't move. Well, OK, maybe it wasn't 'stuck', any more than a truck in a ditch is stuck, it just lacks motivation or traction, right? I do hope you weren't trying to imply that there is only one reason why a valve might decide to stay, or 'stick' in one position. Lack of motivation is only one way to get stuck. People usually think of valves that 'stick' as sticking open, but what the hay, this ain't the coffee room at mechanics exclusive incorperated, is it? Besides which most mechanics don't speak real Inglais, anyway. JAXAshby, I don't know why you waste your effort trying to convince morons??? DIBS! Canadians got DIBS on the word MORON, Moron. You mean convince recruits to join the club, right? Go back to playing with yourself. Plonked again, transparent boy. It was stock till I losen it with my new camshaft ER-ER-ER... SCRATCHIN MY ASS. DAT NEW CAMS PURDY...AYEP. *falling onto the floor laughing turning purple* On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 14:32:08 GMT, Terry Spragg wrote: JAXAshby wrote: I've never seen a valve stick closed. I doubt that you have seen much. Your previous commentaries on things mechanical has been hilarious and very illuminating. I would ask if you were a French mechanic, if it wouldn't offend even them. A valve 'stuck closed' is a valve with a dead lifter or worn cam. I saw one, once, in an old chevvy van 350. New cam, no problem. stuck open Or, a broken pushrod, or a broken rocker arm, or a loose adjustment screw, or even a loose rocker shaft. Any other possibilities, like a broken timing gear or chain, that could strand a valve, leaving it stuck in the closed position? Maybe a lost valve spring retainer clip / key, or a worn valve spring end plate, er, what are they called, thingamajigs? Been so long, I forget. Gunge or a broken valve spring could leave it in the open position, among other causes. "Dazed and Confuzed" skrev i en meddelelse ... Michael Schirmer Nielsen wrote: I have a valve that is stock , can i losen it easely its a mercruiser 120hp from 1978 thanks stuck open or stuck closed? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- -- Terry K - My email address is MY PROPERTY, and is protected by copyright legislation. Permission to reproduce it is specifically denied for mass mailing and unrequested solicitations. Reproduction or conveyance for any unauthorised purpose is THEFT and PLAGIARISM. Abuse is Invasion of privacy and harassment. Abusers may be prosecuted. -This notice footer released to public domain. Spamspoof salad by spamchock - SofDevCo |
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Terry, you're right, I'll wind up in Hell acting like that. I'm sorry guys no intentions to offend anyone but JAX MADE ME DO IT when I read his post. "dude, have you **ANY** idea what a camshaft does for a living? Obvisously not." That was some funny ****. On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 19:24:37 GMT, Terry Spragg wrote: Brian K wrote: Dude you better get a grip, a shot cam or lifter doesn't make a valve stick closed. New cam, no problem....you mean valves not stuck anymore? A miracle, not really....it wasn't stuck to start with, Jeezus christ...do you people actually believe the **** you write? Watch the blasphemy, you'll end up in Hell. Well by stuck, you mean doesn't operate? What could possibly make a valve 'stick' closed? If it is immobile in the closed position, how is a person to know if it is 'stuck', as in a bent stem, or just 'stuck' because there is nothing on the cam or in the leaky lifter, pushrod, or rocker department to move it? If a timing chain breaks, don't most of the valves wind up 'stuck' closed? Wassa matter, nobody else to play with? I had a valve 'stuck' closed because the cam lobe and lifter bottom was all gone. I'd call it stuck, 'cause it didn't move. Well, OK, maybe it wasn't 'stuck', any more than a truck in a ditch is stuck, it just lacks motivation or traction, right? I do hope you weren't trying to imply that there is only one reason why a valve might decide to stay, or 'stick' in one position. Lack of motivation is only one way to get stuck. People usually think of valves that 'stick' as sticking open, but what the hay, this ain't the coffee room at mechanics exclusive incorperated, is it? Besides which most mechanics don't speak real Inglais, anyway. JAXAshby, I don't know why you waste your effort trying to convince morons??? DIBS! Canadians got DIBS on the word MORON, Moron. You mean convince recruits to join the club, right? Go back to playing with yourself. Plonked again, transparent boy. It was stock till I losen it with my new camshaft ER-ER-ER... SCRATCHIN MY ASS. DAT NEW CAMS PURDY...AYEP. *falling onto the floor laughing turning purple* On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 14:32:08 GMT, Terry Spragg wrote: JAXAshby wrote: I've never seen a valve stick closed. I doubt that you have seen much. Your previous commentaries on things mechanical has been hilarious and very illuminating. I would ask if you were a French mechanic, if it wouldn't offend even them. A valve 'stuck closed' is a valve with a dead lifter or worn cam. I saw one, once, in an old chevvy van 350. New cam, no problem. stuck open Or, a broken pushrod, or a broken rocker arm, or a loose adjustment screw, or even a loose rocker shaft. Any other possibilities, like a broken timing gear or chain, that could strand a valve, leaving it stuck in the closed position? Maybe a lost valve spring retainer clip / key, or a worn valve spring end plate, er, what are they called, thingamajigs? Been so long, I forget. Gunge or a broken valve spring could leave it in the open position, among other causes. "Dazed and Confuzed" skrev i en meddelelse ... Michael Schirmer Nielsen wrote: I have a valve that is stock , can i losen it easely its a mercruiser 120hp from 1978 thanks stuck open or stuck closed? -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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Dazed and Confuzed, A little pointer for you, valves used in marine engines are made of stainless steel with silicon impregnated bronze valve guides and DO NOT RUST. There go's the moisture theory out the window. On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 07:32:12 -0500, Dazed and Confuzed wrote: JAXAshby wrote: dude, have you **ANY** idea what a camshaft does for a living? Obvisously not. go back and play with your ticker toys. JAXAshby wrote: I've never seen a valve stick closed. stuck open "Dazed and Confuzed" skrev i en meddelelse ... Michael Schirmer Nielsen wrote: I have a valve that is stock , can i losen it easely its a mercruiser 120hp from 1978 thanks stuck open or stuck closed? -- I'd rather put more life in my days than put more days in my life...... I have. easier in fact to get moving than one stuck open. -- I'd rather put more life in my days than put more days in my life...... and if the motor stops with that valve in the open position and there is any moisture from condensation or gasket leaks, do you think that the valve closes and then rusts? If you then turn the motor over, the valve spring may not be able to break the rust and close the valve. It happens. -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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