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Skip Gundlach wrote:
For whatever reason, I seem to be particularly sensitive to mold, having just had another recurrence of a burst eardrum here at home (clogged Eustachian tubes, infection follows, pressure builds up and necropsy finishes it). If your vet thinks you are dead I guess a necropsy would really finish it for you. Find another vet or go to a real doctor. Rick |
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Skip,
Dorades do work very well, but you do not install them by themselves. They must be mounted in a partitioned dorade box. This box separates water and air with gravity. The deck vent is mounted under the box and it is opened and closed from below. I have 9 installed on my 60' sloop. The complexity of the deck vents is a product of the deck construction. There is a deck plate and cap on top, a mating overhead flange below, a tube in between equating to the deck thickness and a threaded shaft connecting the deck cap with a closing mechanism below. Steve "Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach sez use my name at earthlink dot fishcatcher (net) - with apologies for the spamtrap wrote in message ... Has anyone retrofit dorades to their boats? We're looking at long periods on the hook, when we'll be off the boat all day (commuting, in the Caribbean) and are looking at mold and mildew prevention. For whatever reason, I seem to be particularly sensitive to mold, having just had another recurrence of a burst eardrum here at home (clogged Eustachian tubes, infection follows, pressure builds up and necropsy finishes it). Thus, making sure we have a free flow of air will be important. We'll have full awnings, but don't want to leave the boat open, nor do we want to go to bars/grates which would allow leaving the hatches cracked/open but (in my, prior security industry-experienced, view) severely compromising emergency exit. Thus the thought of dorades. Two questions about that: Is it a big deal in our cored deck, or about the same as installing a winch or other topside item? If you've done it, are you happy with the outcome? I'm thinking in terms of a couple forward, facing forward, and another couple aft, facing aft, when we're at anchor, with caps for in and out when we're in the Briny (I'd sure hate to dump a bucket of water down on the new bedding!!). That, I presume, would allow for a pretty consistent air flow through the boat. Finding somewhere to put them which won't screw up our deck space any more than is already the case will be the biggest challenge. So, experience?? Thanks. L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig http://tinyurl.com/384p2 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain |
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Hi, Y'all (that's a southern USism for a group, not a small-sail-at-the-back
sloop), My apologies for being unclear. I have never thought of a dorade as anything other than a box with a scoop... In any case, as shown elsewhere in the original thread, we've decided against them. L8R Skip -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig http://tinyurl.com/384p2 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain "Steve Lusardi" wrote in message ... Skip, Dorades do work very well, but you do not install them by themselves. They must be mounted in a partitioned dorade box. This box separates water and air with gravity. The deck vent is mounted under the box and it is opened and closed from below. I have 9 installed on my 60' sloop. The complexity of the deck vents is a product of the deck construction. There is a deck plate and cap on top, a mating overhead flange below, a tube in between equating to the deck thickness and a threaded shaft connecting the deck cap with a closing mechanism below. Steve "Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach sez use my name at earthlink dot fishcatcher (net) - with apologies for the spamtrap wrote in message ... Has anyone retrofit dorades to their boats? We're looking at long periods on the hook, when we'll be off the boat all day (commuting, in the Caribbean) and are looking at mold and mildew prevention. For whatever reason, I seem to be particularly sensitive to mold, having just had another recurrence of a burst eardrum here at home (clogged Eustachian tubes, infection follows, pressure builds up and necropsy finishes it). Thus, making sure we have a free flow of air will be important. We'll have full awnings, but don't want to leave the boat open, nor do we want to go to bars/grates which would allow leaving the hatches cracked/open but (in my, prior security industry-experienced, view) severely compromising emergency exit. Thus the thought of dorades. Two questions about that: Is it a big deal in our cored deck, or about the same as installing a winch or other topside item? If you've done it, are you happy with the outcome? I'm thinking in terms of a couple forward, facing forward, and another couple aft, facing aft, when we're at anchor, with caps for in and out when we're in the Briny (I'd sure hate to dump a bucket of water down on the new bedding!!). That, I presume, would allow for a pretty consistent air flow through the boat. Finding somewhere to put them which won't screw up our deck space any more than is already the case will be the biggest challenge. So, experience?? Thanks. L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig http://tinyurl.com/384p2 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain |
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Skip,
Big mistake. I was beginning to think we had some people that really knew. You can put dorades in the same light as prisms. Both are old, incredibly successful ideas that work. Steve "Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach sez use my name at earthlink dot fishcatcher (net) - with apologies for the spamtrap wrote in message ... Hi, Y'all (that's a southern USism for a group, not a small-sail-at-the-back sloop), My apologies for being unclear. I have never thought of a dorade as anything other than a box with a scoop... In any case, as shown elsewhere in the original thread, we've decided against them. L8R Skip -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig http://tinyurl.com/384p2 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain "Steve Lusardi" wrote in message ... Skip, Dorades do work very well, but you do not install them by themselves. They must be mounted in a partitioned dorade box. This box separates water and air with gravity. The deck vent is mounted under the box and it is opened and closed from below. I have 9 installed on my 60' sloop. The complexity of the deck vents is a product of the deck construction. There is a deck plate and cap on top, a mating overhead flange below, a tube in between equating to the deck thickness and a threaded shaft connecting the deck cap with a closing mechanism below. Steve "Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach sez use my name at earthlink dot fishcatcher (net) - with apologies for the spamtrap wrote in message ... Has anyone retrofit dorades to their boats? We're looking at long periods on the hook, when we'll be off the boat all day (commuting, in the Caribbean) and are looking at mold and mildew prevention. For whatever reason, I seem to be particularly sensitive to mold, having just had another recurrence of a burst eardrum here at home (clogged Eustachian tubes, infection follows, pressure builds up and necropsy finishes it). Thus, making sure we have a free flow of air will be important. We'll have full awnings, but don't want to leave the boat open, nor do we want to go to bars/grates which would allow leaving the hatches cracked/open but (in my, prior security industry-experienced, view) severely compromising emergency exit. Thus the thought of dorades. Two questions about that: Is it a big deal in our cored deck, or about the same as installing a winch or other topside item? If you've done it, are you happy with the outcome? I'm thinking in terms of a couple forward, facing forward, and another couple aft, facing aft, when we're at anchor, with caps for in and out when we're in the Briny (I'd sure hate to dump a bucket of water down on the new bedding!!). That, I presume, would allow for a pretty consistent air flow through the boat. Finding somewhere to put them which won't screw up our deck space any more than is already the case will be the biggest challenge. So, experience?? Thanks. L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig http://tinyurl.com/384p2 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain |
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Hi, Steve, and group,
"Steve Lusardi" wrote in message ... Skip, Big mistake. I was beginning to think we had some people that really knew. You can put dorades in the same light as prisms. Both are old, incredibly successful ideas that work. Steve What's up with the "REPOST" I keep seeing? However, to your note, what's the mistake? Listening to the group, not using dorades, or something else? I had no question as to their efficacy - it's why I inquired in the beginning. However, a quick look at installation reality ($$, time, complexity of end result) and clunkiness, combined with the engineering reality of air movement, let alone the potential for swamping in heavy seas, convinced me otherwise. In the meantime, the boat already has solar vents (Nicro, I think) at both ends, along with passive vents in the heads, along with all the natural holes in the boat, so it stays reasonably dry. I'm looking for a belt-and-suspenders approach so I don't have to keep spending lots of time and money on doctors to address my plugged up Eustachian tubes and burst eardrum, as I've had to do several times in the last couple of months... And, I've been on a couple of boats with well-done (read, don't leak) prisms. Awesome. If it weren't for the thickness of the deck I might well think in those terms for daylight improvements for our boat. At the moment, however, that's not on the horizon. L8R Skip -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig http://tinyurl.com/384p2 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain "Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach sez use my name at earthlink dot fishcatcher (net) - with apologies for the spamtrap wrote in message ... Hi, Y'all (that's a southern USism for a group, not a small-sail-at-the-back sloop), My apologies for being unclear. I have never thought of a dorade as anything other than a box with a scoop... In any case, as shown elsewhere in the original thread, we've decided against them. L8R Skip -- Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig http://tinyurl.com/384p2 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain "Steve Lusardi" wrote in message ... Skip, Dorades do work very well, but you do not install them by themselves. They must be mounted in a partitioned dorade box. This box separates water and air with gravity. The deck vent is mounted under the box and it is opened and closed from below. I have 9 installed on my 60' sloop. The complexity of the deck vents is a product of the deck construction. There is a deck plate and cap on top, a mating overhead flange below, a tube in between equating to the deck thickness and a threaded shaft connecting the deck cap with a closing mechanism below. Steve "Skip Gundlach" skipgundlach sez use my name at earthlink dot fishcatcher (net) - with apologies for the spamtrap wrote in message ... Has anyone retrofit dorades to their boats? We're looking at long periods on the hook, when we'll be off the boat all day (commuting, in the Caribbean) and are looking at mold and mildew prevention. For whatever reason, I seem to be particularly sensitive to mold, having just had another recurrence of a burst eardrum here at home (clogged Eustachian tubes, infection follows, pressure builds up and necropsy finishes it). Thus, making sure we have a free flow of air will be important. We'll have full awnings, but don't want to leave the boat open, nor do we want to go to bars/grates which would allow leaving the hatches cracked/open but (in my, prior security industry-experienced, view) severely compromising emergency exit. Thus the thought of dorades. Two questions about that: Is it a big deal in our cored deck, or about the same as installing a winch or other topside item? If you've done it, are you happy with the outcome? I'm thinking in terms of a couple forward, facing forward, and another couple aft, facing aft, when we're at anchor, with caps for in and out when we're in the Briny (I'd sure hate to dump a bucket of water down on the new bedding!!). That, I presume, would allow for a pretty consistent air flow through the boat. Finding somewhere to put them which won't screw up our deck space any more than is already the case will be the biggest challenge. So, experience?? Thanks. L8R Skip Morgan 461 #2 SV Flying Pig http://tinyurl.com/384p2 "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." - Mark Twain |
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