Boatbuilding Operation in Brazil
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with 3000 sq. meters on waterfront, American owned Are you sure of this figure?? Doesn't seem like a very big area for a boat building venture. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:56:57 -0700, "Steve" wrote:
with 3000 sq. meters on waterfront, American owned Are you sure of this figure?? Doesn't seem like a very big area for a boat building venture. Steve s/v Good Intentions Hmmm...32,290 sq feet. A production space of 50 feet wide and over a tenth of a mile long? Seems small? Brian W |
"Brian Whatcott" wrote in message ... On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 09:56:57 -0700, "Steve" wrote: with 3000 sq. meters on waterfront, American owned Are you sure of this figure?? Doesn't seem like a very big area for a boat building venture. Steve s/v Good Intentions Hmmm...32,290 sq feet. A production space of 50 feet wide and over a tenth of a mile long? Seems small? Brian W Or 180ft by 180ft. My front yard (seems) is that big (when I'm mowing it). I think someone forgot a zero in the OP. Steve s/v Good Intentions |
"Steve" wrote in message ... with 3000 sq. meters on waterfront, American owned Are you sure of this figure?? Doesn't seem like a very big area for a boat building venture. He is quoting in Sq meters 3,000 sq m is 32,292 sq ft thats a pretty big lot Neil |
He is quoting in Sq meters 3,000 sq m is 32,292 sq ft thats a pretty big lot Neil Not really, that's only 180ft by 180ft. Not hardly "room to swing a Cat"! Maybe ok for production of a few Hoby Cat or one at a time cruising Cat. Trust me I've managed a small boat yard and it takes more room than needed for the boat(s). Steve s/v Good Intentions |
It is small for a yard but maybe not for a building operation. I visited
one plant in Bristol, RI that was in a building about 80'x180'. They had a layup area and a 20'x60' post cure oven down one wall, component fabrication down the other. The 30' wide line down the middle had three 30 something sport boats and a 46' cruiser in the works with plenty of room around them to work. As I remember the parking lot was down one side and the rear yard was full of molds, enventory and a travellift. I would guess that the lot couldn't be more than 150x250 and it wasn't close to the water. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com "Steve" wrote in message ... He is quoting in Sq meters 3,000 sq m is 32,292 sq ft thats a pretty big lot Neil Not really, that's only 180ft by 180ft. Not hardly "room to swing a Cat"! Maybe ok for production of a few Hoby Cat or one at a time cruising Cat. Trust me I've managed a small boat yard and it takes more room than needed for the boat(s). Steve s/v Good Intentions |
Glenn says:
I visited one plant in Bristol, RI that was in a building about 80'x180'. They had a layup area and a 20'x60' post cure oven down one wall, component fabrication down the other. The 30' wide line down the middle had three 30 something sport boats and a 46' cruiser in the works with plenty of room around them to work. That sounds like somewhere on Broad Common Rd. I'd put my money on Barrettt Holby's shop ;-) If not, then Barry Carroll, but IIRC they were a bit bigger. Steve |
"Stephen Baker" wrote in message ... That sounds like somewhere on Broad Common Rd. I'd put my money on Barrettt Holby's shop ;-) If not, then Barry Carroll, but IIRC they were a bit bigger. It was Carroll Marine. It may be a little bigger but not much. My estimate was based on trying to scale around the 3 Mum 30's and the Nelson Marek 46 they were building at the time. In reserching before starting Rutu I visited several plants. Barry's was about the typical size. In comparison the Beneteau plant in Marion, South Carolina is HUGE. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com |
Lot's of room to swing a few cats in a building that is 279 feet long
and 82 feet wide. In fact, I don't think you could throw a cat from one end to the other... and there are two more buildings next door, the same size that we can expand into if we want. That's a shade under 100,000 square feet under roof, on the water at 96,891 sq. feet. Plus a few smaller outbuildings. What do you want to build? The Queen Mary? "Steve" wrote in message ... He is quoting in Sq meters 3,000 sq m is 32,292 sq ft thats a pretty big lot Neil Not really, that's only 180ft by 180ft. Not hardly "room to swing a Cat"! Maybe ok for production of a few Hoby Cat or one at a time cruising Cat. Trust me I've managed a small boat yard and it takes more room than needed for the boat(s). Steve s/v Good Intentions |
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Looks like the inside of Carroll. Very depressing to see it empty. There
is something .. inspiring.. for lack of a better word, about a medium size boatbuilding operation with a mix of custom and one designs parading down the line. Empty it is just another building. -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com "Caribmon" wrote in message om... Here's a pic of one of the buildings. http://www.avanteyachts.com/faciliti...inside_jpg.jpg |
Tempting but I don't speak Portuguese and there is always the basic axiom
that the way you make a million in the boatbuilding business is to start with two. :-) -- Glenn Ashmore I'm building a 45' cutter in strip/composite. Watch my progress (or lack there of) at: http://www.rutuonline.com Shameless Commercial Division: http://www.spade-anchor-us.com "Caribmon" wrote in message m... Lot's of room to swing a few cats in a building that is 279 feet long and 82 feet wide. In fact, I don't think you could throw a cat from one end to the other... and there are two more buildings next door, the same size that we can expand into if we want. That's a shade under 100,000 square feet under roof, on the water at 96,891 sq. feet. Plus a few smaller outbuildings. What do you want to build? The Queen Mary? "Steve" wrote in message ... He is quoting in Sq meters 3,000 sq m is 32,292 sq ft thats a pretty big lot Neil Not really, that's only 180ft by 180ft. Not hardly "room to swing a Cat"! Maybe ok for production of a few Hoby Cat or one at a time cruising Cat. Trust me I've managed a small boat yard and it takes more room than needed for the boat(s). Steve s/v Good Intentions |
We have key people who are completely bilingual so Portuguese is not
as critical as one thinks. A lot of high end buying takes place in the US (often factory direct and import duty free). They key is labour. Where else are you going to get a professional lamination crew with marine experience of five men for US$800 a month for all of them? The lack of any EPA breathing down a builder's neck is also cost saving. The craftsmen here are excellent and technologically, Brazil is not in the stone age, with a rocket going off into space last month, enriched uranium and commercial jets that compete with Boeing and Airbus. Ten days after picking up anchor in front of the yard, you could be in the Caribbean with the boat - so the market is not very far. Richard Kastelein www.avanteyachts.com/resumes "Glenn Ashmore" wrote in message news:aszhd.58190$UA.23437@lakeread08... Tempting but I don't speak Portuguese and there is always the basic axiom that the way you make a million in the boatbuilding business is to start with two. :-) -- Glenn Ashmore |
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