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where to buy portlights?
Hi group,
My Gazelle is lacking portlights. The portholes are 8". I'm looking for a source for affordable opening portlights of that dimension. Ebay and google don't yield much. I can't afford bronze, so I'm open to all materials (including plastic) if they're strong enough for offshore duty. Regards, -Maxime |
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On Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:05:22 -0800 (PST), max camirand
wrote: Hi group, My Gazelle is lacking portlights. The portholes are 8". I'm looking for a source for affordable opening portlights of that dimension. Ebay and google don't yield much. I can't afford bronze, so I'm open to all materials (including plastic) if they're strong enough for offshore duty. Regards, -Maxime Is this a Colvin Gazelle ? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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Max,
No portlight is inexpensive, of any variety. You must be very careful when you buy these, because you have to plan the installation and it is not straightforward. All portlight faces are flat, but your hull is not. You will also have an inner hull liner of some description and depth. So you will have very specific dimensions and you will also need to fabricate a flat mounting surface to match the portlight design. On top of that, the only safe portlight will also incorporate a compound hinge and companion deadlight plate. Please remember that in very heavy weather and breaking seas, the portlight can experience several tons of explosive force. Your life can depend on your choice. Be prepared to spend serious money on these. I have 13, 8 x 16" bronze portlights that cost me $14,000 without costing the installation. Steve "max camirand" wrote in message ... Hi group, My Gazelle is lacking portlights. The portholes are 8". I'm looking for a source for affordable opening portlights of that dimension. Ebay and google don't yield much. I can't afford bronze, so I'm open to all materials (including plastic) if they're strong enough for offshore duty. Regards, -Maxime |
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On Dec 28, 6:42*am, Bruce In Bangkok
wrote: Is this a Colvin Gazelle ? Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) Yep! Pacific Orca of Juneau, currently hauled out in Seattle. Regards, -Maxime |
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On Dec 28, 6:43*am, "Steve Lusardi" wrote:
Max, No portlight is inexpensive, of any variety. You must be very careful when you buy these, because you have to plan the installation and it is not straightforward. All portlight faces are flat, but your hull is not. You will also have an inner hull liner of some description and depth. So you will have very specific dimensions and you will also need to fabricate a flat mounting surface to match the portlight design. On top of that, the only safe portlight will also incorporate a compound hinge and companion deadlight plate. Please remember that in very heavy weather and breaking seas, the portlight can experience several tons of explosive force. Your life can depend on your choice. Be prepared to spend serious money on these. I have 13, 8 x 16" bronze portlights that cost me $14,000 without costing the installation. Steve Steve, I presume some materials are more affordable than others. I am able to deal with the challenges of installation. Some of the portholes will get thick plexiglass deadlights. However, a few of the portholes will need to be of the opening type in order to get adequate ventilation below. Can you suggest a type and a place to buy them? I've heard of discount online marine chandleries, but I only know West Marine, who are definitely not 'discount'. Regards, -Maxime |
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Max,
You may wish to check out Davey & Co in London. They make quality portlights. These are not inexpensive, but definitely worth the money. They have portlight patterns on the shelf that go back to the late 1800s and these are not on their website, but they are available, just ask. http://www.davey.co.uk/pdf/portlights.pdf These folks made my portlights. You can also check out Vetus in Holland, but they are meant for inshore use and do not have deadlight plates. http://www.vetus.nl/ l I have also bought samples in stainless and brass made in the far east. My samples were not certified, very poorly made and not significantly less money. I highly advise you to avoid the far east. You can also contact the ship scrap yards in India, but I can tell you that they are very difficult to deal with and you have a very good chance of not receiving what you think you bought. If you need leads there, I can give you a couple. Good luck, Steve "max camirand" wrote in message ... On Dec 28, 6:43 am, "Steve Lusardi" wrote: Max, No portlight is inexpensive, of any variety. You must be very careful when you buy these, because you have to plan the installation and it is not straightforward. All portlight faces are flat, but your hull is not. You will also have an inner hull liner of some description and depth. So you will have very specific dimensions and you will also need to fabricate a flat mounting surface to match the portlight design. On top of that, the only safe portlight will also incorporate a compound hinge and companion deadlight plate. Please remember that in very heavy weather and breaking seas, the portlight can experience several tons of explosive force. Your life can depend on your choice. Be prepared to spend serious money on these. I have 13, 8 x 16" bronze portlights that cost me $14,000 without costing the installation. Steve Steve, I presume some materials are more affordable than others. I am able to deal with the challenges of installation. Some of the portholes will get thick plexiglass deadlights. However, a few of the portholes will need to be of the opening type in order to get adequate ventilation below. Can you suggest a type and a place to buy them? I've heard of discount online marine chandleries, but I only know West Marine, who are definitely not 'discount'. Regards, -Maxime |
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On Dec 28, 9:32*am, "Steve Lusardi" wrote:
Max, You may wish to check out Davey & Co in London. They make quality portlights. These are not inexpensive, but definitely worth the money. They have portlight patterns on the shelf *that go back to the late 1800s and these are not on their website, *but they are available, just ask.http://www.davey.co.uk/pdf/portlights.pdf*These folks made my portlights. You can also check out Vetus in Holland, but they are meant for inshore use and do not have deadlight plates. *http://www.vetus.nl/l *I have also bought samples in stainless and brass made in the far east. My samples were not certified, very poorly made and not significantly less money. I highly advise you to avoid the far east. You can also contact the ship scrap yards in India, but I can tell you that they are very difficult to deal with and you have a very good chance of not receiving what you think you bought. If you need leads there, I can give you a couple. Good luck, Steve "max camirand" wrote in ... On Dec 28, 6:43 am, "Steve Lusardi" wrote: Max, No portlight is inexpensive, of any variety. You must be very careful when you buy these, because you have to plan the installation and it is not straightforward. All portlight faces are flat, but your hull is not. You will also have an inner hull liner of some description and depth. So you will have very specific dimensions and you will also need to fabricate a flat mounting surface to match the portlight design. On top of that, the only safe portlight will also incorporate a compound hinge and companion deadlight plate. Please remember that in very heavy weather and breaking seas, the portlight can experience several tons of explosive force. Your life can depend on your choice. Be prepared to spend serious money on these. I have 13, 8 x 16" bronze portlights that cost me $14,000 without costing the installation. Steve Steve, I presume some materials are more affordable than others. I am able to deal with the challenges of installation. Some of the portholes will get thick plexiglass deadlights. However, a few of the portholes will need to be of the opening type in order to get adequate ventilation below. Can you suggest a type and a place to buy them? I've heard of discount online marine chandleries, but I only know West Marine, who are definitely not 'discount'. Regards, -Maxime Send seachestmarine an email, telling them what you are looking for. Steve is pretty good at locating stuff. http://www.seachestmarine.com/ Good luck. Den 48YF EAGLE |
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Come to think of it, since the only major force operating on these
portlights is a hypothetical boarding wave, I could have outside- opening portlights of thick plexiglass. If the portlight window were of a larger diameter than the porthole, it would merely be forced against the hull by a boarding wave. The plastic window itself is more than strong enough. Regards, -Maxime |
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On Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:46:19 -0800 (PST), max camirand
wrote: Come to think of it, since the only major force operating on these portlights is a hypothetical boarding wave, I could have outside- opening portlights of thick plexiglass. If the portlight window were of a larger diameter than the porthole, it would merely be forced against the hull by a boarding wave. The plastic window itself is more than strong enough. Regards, -Maxime Or you can fit "storm boards" over the ports in bad weather. The "problem" that most people have with ports is that they leak. I've seen a lot of people cursing and re-bedding their ports. Never saw a guy replacing one that a wave broke :-) Cheers, Bruce (bruceinbangkokatgmaildotcom) |
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where to buy portlights?
"max camirand" wrote in message ... Hi group, My Gazelle is lacking portlights. The portholes are 8". I'm looking for a source for affordable opening portlights of that dimension. Ebay and google don't yield much. I can't afford bronze, so I'm open to all materials (including plastic) if they're strong enough for offshore duty. Regards, -Maxime Fuller Brush company makes some very tough plastic portlights. They last over 20 years and maybe a lot longer if protected from natural and manmade attacks. Last I checked a large (+/- 14") went for about $170. |
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