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OzOne September 27th 08 11:28 PM

Evo X
 

Picked my new one up yesterday....Off now for 4 or 5 daays running it
in through the moutains of NSW and Victoria.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

Capt. Rob September 28th 08 01:08 PM

Evo X
 
On Sep 27, 6:28 pm, OzOne wrote:
Picked my new one up yesterday....Off now for 4 or 5 daays running it
in through the moutains of NSW and Victoria.

OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.




Congrats!

Still waiting for mine here! I thought I had one last week, but it was
scooped up before I could make the deal.



RB

[email protected] September 29th 08 12:52 AM

Evo X
 
On 28 Sep, 13:08, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


Still waiting for mine here! I thought I had one last week, but it was
scooped up before I could make the deal.


Obviously, you didn't offer enough!

Don't feel disheartened. There are some cars that have better
performance and are even cheaper! JL posted a link to some
of them last week. Some of them had fewer irritating rattles
from the dashboard, according to the reviewers.



Regards


Donal
--

Capt. Rob September 29th 08 03:33 AM

Evo X
 

Don't feel disheartened. There are some cars that have better
performance and are even cheaper! JL posted a link to some
of them last week. Some of them had fewer irritating rattles
from the dashboard, according to the reviewers.



Well, 1st of all, I'm hardly disheartened. The 2009 model will be
shipped any week now and then I'll have what I want.
Also: There is no better performing AWD sedan, cheaper or otherwise.
And no one posted links to them. I bet you'll gloss over that one!

Now I'm off to the home theater. My wife and I are about to watch Kill
Bill 2 on our lavish system that you can't afford.

Cheers!


RB


[email protected] September 29th 08 02:22 PM

Evo X
 
On 29 Sep, 03:33, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Don't feel disheartened. There are some cars that have better
performance and are even cheaper! JL posted a link to some
of them last week. Some of them had fewer irritating rattles
from the dashboard, according to the reviewers.


Well, 1st of all, I'm hardly disheartened. The 2009 model will be
shipped any week now and then I'll have what I want.
Also: There is no better performing AWD sedan, cheaper or otherwise.
And no one posted links to them. I bet you'll gloss over that one!


How much?

Here's a link:-

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/220788/
subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_type_uk_versus_mitsubishi_e vo_x_fq300_sst.html

One of many derogatory comments from that link:-
"And what does all this leave you with once you actually settle down
to
driving? A slightly unsatisfying car, I知 afraid. "




Now I'm off to the home theater. My wife and I are about to watch Kill
Bill 2 on our lavish system that you can't afford.


You are correct! I couldn't afford to be seen with that
pretentious tat in my house!


Regards

Donal
--

Capt. Rob September 29th 08 11:41 PM

Evo X
 
On Sep 29, 9:22 am, wrote:
On 29 Sep, 03:33, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Don't feel disheartened. There are some cars that have better
performance and are even cheaper! JL posted a link to some
of them last week. Some of them had fewer irritating rattles
from the dashboard, according to the reviewers.


Well, 1st of all, I'm hardly disheartened. The 2009 model will be
shipped any week now and then I'll have what I want.
Also: There is no better performing AWD sedan, cheaper or otherwise.
And no one posted links to them. I bet you'll gloss over that one!


How much?

Here's a link:-

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/220788/
subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_type_uk_versus_mitsubishi_e vo_x_fq300_sst.html

One of many derogatory comments from that link:-
"And what does all this leave you with once you actually settle down
to
driving? A slightly unsatisfying car, I知 afraid. "



Now I'm off to the home theater. My wife and I are about to watch Kill
Bill 2 on our lavish system that you can't afford.


You are correct! I couldn't afford to be seen with that
pretentious tat in my house!

Regards

Donal
--




I think it's great that time and again you demonstrate that you're in
no way afraid to look dumb and ignorant.
The car tested in that review is the SST version. My car is a GSR,
which delivers more WHP (25 more) and has a different firmer
suspension.

You should certainly stick to what you know. We just can't figure out
what that may be!


RB

Capt. Rob September 29th 08 11:44 PM

Evo X
 

You are correct! I couldn't afford to be seen with that
pretentious tat in my house!

Regards

Donal
--



Yeah, those Magnepan panels sure are pretentious!

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p3696847-5.jpg

So is the fully custom amp section and tube pre-amps. Just think of
the special kisses your wife must be holding back!
Oh, and we missed the thrilling car you drive. What was it again?
Hmmmmm?



RB


[email protected] September 30th 08 10:09 PM

Evo X
 
On 29 Sep, 23:41, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
On Sep 29, 9:22 am, wrote:



On 29 Sep, 03:33, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


Don't feel disheartened. There are some cars that have better
performance and are even cheaper! JL posted a link to some
of them last week. Some of them had fewer irritating rattles
from the dashboard, according to the reviewers.


Well, 1st of all, I'm hardly disheartened. The 2009 model will be
shipped any week now and then I'll have what I want.
Also: There is no better performing AWD sedan, cheaper or otherwise.
And no one posted links to them. I bet you'll gloss over that one!


How much?


Here's a link:-


http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/220788/
subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_type_uk_versus_mitsubishi_e vo_x_fq300_sst.html


One of many derogatory comments from that link:-
"And what does all this leave you with once you actually settle down
to
driving? A slightly unsatisfying car, I知 afraid. "


Now I'm off to the home theater. My wife and I are about to watch Kill
Bill 2 on our lavish system that you can't afford.


You are correct! I couldn't afford to be seen with that
pretentious tat in my house!


Regards


Donal
--


I think it's great that time and again you demonstrate that you're in
no way afraid to look dumb and ignorant.
The car tested in that review is the SST version. My car is a GSR,
which delivers more WHP (25 more) and has a different firmer
suspension.

You should certainly stick to what you know. We just can't figure out
what that may be!


Soooo... tell me. Could you hit a set of green traffic lights at 50,
and
turn right without scratching the waiting cars?.... or using the
brakes??

Think carefully before you heap scorn on me. You should know
me well enough to take the path that will avoid disaster.
Unfortunately, I know you well enough to know that you will
choose personal humiliation over common sense.



Regards


Donal
--



Marty[_2_] October 1st 08 12:16 AM

Evo X
 
wrote:


You should certainly stick to what you know. We just can't figure out
what that may be!


Soooo... tell me. Could you hit a set of green traffic lights at 50,
and
turn right without scratching the waiting cars?.... or using the
brakes??



If I may be crude: Enough ****ing around, you want real bragging rights,
you want a real sports car, you want a car that will turn every head for
six blocks?

Try this:
http://www.bugatti.com/en/veyron-16.4.html

0-60MPH 2.7 seconds. Skid pan numbers, forget it, none of those cheap
propaganda rags that Bob reads are ever going to get their hands on on
of these.

Cheers
Marty


OzOne October 1st 08 05:56 AM

Evo X
 
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:22:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



Here's a link:-

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/220788/
subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_type_uk_versus_mitsubishi_ evo_x_fq300_sst.html

One of many derogatory comments from that link:-
"And what does all this leave you with once you actually settle down
to
driving? A slightly unsatisfying car, I知 afraid. "



Guess the guy really wanted his satisfaction when he pulled up at the
ballet and the parking attendant started droolong over the
'Aston'.....




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

OzOne October 1st 08 05:57 AM

Evo X
 
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:16:03 -0400, Marty wrote:

wrote:


You should certainly stick to what you know. We just can't figure out
what that may be!


Soooo... tell me. Could you hit a set of green traffic lights at 50,
and
turn right without scratching the waiting cars?.... or using the
brakes??



If I may be crude: Enough ****ing around, you want real bragging rights,
you want a real sports car, you want a car that will turn every head for
six blocks?

Try this: http://www.bugatti.com/en/veyron-16.4.html

0-60MPH 2.7 seconds. Skid pan numbers, forget it, none of those cheap
propaganda rags that Bob reads are ever going to get their hands on on
of these.

Cheers
Marty


Yeah...beautiful machine.....but it costs a motsa!!




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

Marty[_2_] October 1st 08 04:18 PM

Evo X
 
OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 19:16:03 -0400, Marty wrote:

wrote:

You should certainly stick to what you know. We just can't figure out
what that may be!
Soooo... tell me. Could you hit a set of green traffic lights at 50,
and
turn right without scratching the waiting cars?.... or using the
brakes??


If I may be crude: Enough ****ing around, you want real bragging rights,
you want a real sports car, you want a car that will turn every head for
six blocks?

Try this:
http://www.bugatti.com/en/veyron-16.4.html

0-60MPH 2.7 seconds. Skid pan numbers, forget it, none of those cheap
propaganda rags that Bob reads are ever going to get their hands on on
of these.

Cheers
Marty


Yeah...beautiful machine.....but it costs a motsa!!


There is that little hitch..... ;-o

Cheers
Marty

[email protected] October 1st 08 10:51 PM

Evo X
 
On 1 Oct, 05:56, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:22:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Here's a link:-


http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/220788/
subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_type_uk_versus_mitsubishi_ evo_x_fq300_sst.html


One of many derogatory comments from that link:-
"And what does all this leave you with once you actually settle down
to
driving? A slightly unsatisfying car, I知 afraid. "


Guess the guy really wanted his satisfaction when he pulled up at the
ballet and the parking attendant started droolong over the
'Aston'.....


"F" the ballet!!
You would have loved what I did yesterday!!


Steering with the throttle ... hands on my knees...
Speed between 80 and 110 mph (hands on the knees,
not on the wheel)...
It was exactly like sailing without a rudder when you
balance the main versus the genoa. You would have
LOVED it Oz.


Don't tell me that you wouldn't have enjoyed
doing 180 degree turns, 270, 360, and 720 turns
in an Aston.


Regards


Donal

--



OzOne October 1st 08 11:58 PM

Evo X
 
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:51:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On 1 Oct, 05:56, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:22:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

Here's a link:-


http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/220788/
subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_type_uk_versus_mitsubishi_ evo_x_fq300_sst.html


One of many derogatory comments from that link:-
"And what does all this leave you with once you actually settle down
to
driving? A slightly unsatisfying car, I知 afraid. "


Guess the guy really wanted his satisfaction when he pulled up at the
ballet and the parking attendant started droolong over the
'Aston'.....


"F" the ballet!!
You would have loved what I did yesterday!!


Steering with the throttle ... hands on my knees...
Speed between 80 and 110 mph (hands on the knees,
not on the wheel)...
It was exactly like sailing without a rudder when you
balance the main versus the genoa. You would have
LOVED it Oz.


Don't tell me that you wouldn't have enjoyed
doing 180 degree turns, 270, 360, and 720 turns
in an Aston.


Regards


Donal


Hmmm, sounds like fun....next time try it in a more nimble car :-)




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

[email protected] October 4th 08 06:09 PM

Evo X
 
On 1 Oct, 23:58, OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:51:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 1 Oct, 05:56, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:22:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Here's a link:-


http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/220788/
subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_type_uk_versus_mitsubishi_ evo_x_fq300_sst.html


One of many derogatory comments from that link:-
"And what does all this leave you with once you actually settle down
to
driving? A slightly unsatisfying car, I m afraid. "


Guess the guy really wanted his satisfaction when he pulled up at the
ballet and the parking attendant started droolong over the
'Aston'.....


"F" the ballet!!
You would have loved what I did yesterday!!


Steering with the throttle ... hands on my knees...
Speed between 80 and 110 mph (hands on the knees,
not on the wheel)...
It was exactly like sailing without a rudder when you
balance the main versus the genoa. You would have
LOVED it Oz.


Don't tell me that you wouldn't have enjoyed
doing 180 degree turns, 270, 360, and 720 turns
in an Aston.


Regards


Donal


Hmmm, sounds like fun....next time try it in a more nimble car :-)


It was the most fun that I have had in more than 30 years!


Next time it looks like a F360 and AMV8 morning, followed
by rally instruction in the afternoon. Do they qualify as more
nimble?


Regards

Donal
--


OzOne October 5th 08 03:22 AM

Evo X
 
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:09:02 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On 1 Oct, 23:58, OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:51:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 1 Oct, 05:56, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:22:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Here's a link:-


http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/220788/
subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_type_uk_versus_mitsubishi_ evo_x_fq300_sst.html


One of many derogatory comments from that link:-
"And what does all this leave you with once you actually settle down
to
driving? A slightly unsatisfying car, I m afraid. "


Guess the guy really wanted his satisfaction when he pulled up at the
ballet and the parking attendant started droolong over the
'Aston'.....


"F" the ballet!!
You would have loved what I did yesterday!!


Steering with the throttle ... hands on my knees...
Speed between 80 and 110 mph (hands on the knees,
not on the wheel)...
It was exactly like sailing without a rudder when you
balance the main versus the genoa. You would have
LOVED it Oz.


Don't tell me that you wouldn't have enjoyed
doing 180 degree turns, 270, 360, and 720 turns
in an Aston.


Regards


Donal


Hmmm, sounds like fun....next time try it in a more nimble car :-)


It was the most fun that I have had in more than 30 years!


Next time it looks like a F360 and AMV8 morning, followed
by rally instruction in the afternoon. Do they qualify as more
nimble?


Regards

Donal


It wouldn't take much to be more nimble that the 'Aston'.....I was
talking substantially more nimble.

Still It sounds like you're exploring your limits which is a good
thing




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

[email protected] October 5th 08 09:45 PM

Evo X
 
On 5 Oct, 03:22, OzOne wrote:
On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 10:09:02 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 1 Oct, 23:58, OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 1 Oct 2008 14:51:57 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 1 Oct, 05:56, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 29 Sep 2008 06:22:31 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


Here's a link:-


http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/cargrouptests/220788/
subaru_impreza_wrx_sti_type_uk_versus_mitsubishi_ evo_x_fq300_sst.html


One of many derogatory comments from that link:-
"And what does all this leave you with once you actually settle down
to
driving? A slightly unsatisfying car, I m afraid. "


Guess the guy really wanted his satisfaction when he pulled up at the
ballet and the parking attendant started droolong over the
'Aston'.....


"F" the ballet!!
You would have loved what I did yesterday!!


Steering with the throttle ... hands on my knees...
Speed between 80 and 110 mph (hands on the knees,
not on the wheel)...
It was exactly like sailing without a rudder when you
balance the main versus the genoa. You would have
LOVED it Oz.


Don't tell me that you wouldn't have enjoyed
doing 180 degree turns, 270, 360, and 720 turns
in an Aston.


Regards


Donal


Hmmm, sounds like fun....next time try it in a more nimble car :-)


It was the most fun that I have had in more than 30 years!


Next time it looks like a F360 and AMV8 morning, followed
by rally instruction in the afternoon. Do they qualify as more
nimble?


Regards


Donal


It wouldn't take much to be more nimble that the 'Aston'.....I was
talking substantially more nimble.


So... the F360 doesn't make it?

What would you recommend?

I still haven't booked the next outing. A friend and I are going
to do a "Driving Experience" day for our next birthday (51). I am
genuinely open to suggestions!


Still It sounds like you're exploring your limits which is a good
thing


Last Tuesday... limits were not "explored", they were "exploded".


I'm looking forward to learning more about driving.


Regards


Donal
--



OzOne October 5th 08 11:53 PM

Evo X
 
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



It wouldn't take much to be more nimble that the 'Aston'.....I was
talking substantially more nimble.


So... the F360 doesn't make it?

What would you recommend?

I still haven't booked the next outing. A friend and I are going
to do a "Driving Experience" day for our next birthday (51). I am
genuinely open to suggestions!


Still It sounds like you're exploring your limits which is a good
thing


Last Tuesday... limits were not "explored", they were "exploded".


I'm looking forward to learning more about driving.


Regards


Donal


The F360 is a great, noisy, boy racer toy .... for the highway.
It handles quite badly on the limit...much like a Porsche Carrera
andwould get blown away on a twisty mountain road bay even a
moderately tuned Evo...at a fraction of the price.

Drive one!
Donal, you will be absolutely amazed at the capacity of the
Evo...particularly if you are driving in a closed road or track
environment as it appears you are.
I'm 59 (in Feb) and feel like a 17yo kid when I'm pushing my
evo..seriously, give one a try.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

OzOne October 5th 08 11:56 PM

Evo X
 
On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 13:45:36 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

BTW if you can get into a lowly MX5 on that track...give one of them a
go too.
Not bags of power but balanced like you won't believe and with brakes
that just suck the car down onto the road.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

Capt. Rob October 6th 08 03:08 AM

Evo X
 
It wouldn't take much to be more nimble that the 'Aston'.....I was
talking substantially more nimble.



That's putting it nicely. A DB9 is a road car, not a canyon slicer.
The Evo is so much more fun. But folks like Donal literally see
something more shiny and they expect it must be better. The Aston is
VERY shiny, but it's so far down the rungs of handling that I find it
hard to believe any school course with use one. An M3 would make much
more sense. I actually don't think an Evo would be best to teach
someone like Donal though. The Evo is best for someone who understands
balance and the full benefit of the AYC system. He needs to play with
more basic metal before he can appreciate why the Evo is being stacked
up against supercars.




RB

[email protected] October 6th 08 08:33 PM

Evo X
 
On 6 Oct, 03:08, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
It wouldn't take much to be more nimble that the 'Aston'.....I was
talking substantially more nimble.

That's putting it nicely. A DB9 is a road car, not a canyon slicer.


You know absolutely *nothing* about driving a DB9. Your posts
make it clear that you have never even been a passenger in a DB9.



The Evo is so much more fun. But folks like Donal literally see
something more shiny and they expect it must be better. The Aston is
VERY shiny, but it's so far down the rungs of handling that I find it
hard to believe any school course with use one. An M3 would make much
more sense. I actually don't think an Evo would be best to teach
someone like Donal though. The Evo is best for someone who understands
balance and the full benefit of the AYC system. He needs to play with
more basic metal before he can appreciate why the Evo is being stacked
up against supercars.


I agree. The Evo is best for people understand balance. The DB9 is
for people who don't need to bother learning about balance. You
can floor it into a sharp corner, and the computer system will
take care of balance. When I mentioned 50mph right angle turns in an
earlier post, the bit that I omitted was that they were done on a
wet skid pan! The car skidded less than 8 feet!!!

Bob, you don't seem to understand the difference between a "Supercar"
and a turbo-charged family saloon. The DB9's handling is not as good
as the Bugati Veyron. But, it is much better than the turbo-charged
Evo.

Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.


Pawn to K5. Check.


Regards

Donal
--

Marty[_2_] October 6th 08 11:38 PM

Evo X
 
wrote:

Bob, you don't seem to understand the difference between a "Supercar"
and a turbo-charged family saloon. The DB9's handling is not as good
as the Bugati Veyron. But, it is much better than the turbo-charged
Evo.

Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.


Pawn to K5. Check.


Black resigns.

Cheers
Martin

Capt. Rob October 7th 08 12:56 AM

Evo X
 
You
can floor it into a sharp corner, and the computer system will
take care of balance.



It will? How? Using the traction control to the rear diff or the
stability control?

Donal, no one thinks a DB9 handles better than a Evo. That's probably
because it wasn't designed to. To put it in perspective a tuned Evo
will be more nimble than a new GT-R.


With time you may learn about cars and driving. A LOT of time.



RB

Capt. Rob October 7th 08 01:00 AM

Evo X
 
Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.





I'm guessing that you mean 50 miles from Manhattan or even the
boroughs.
I know you're pretty ignorant, but you might want to check maximum
elevation and distance of Kent Cliffs. The photo was taken from my
deck as stated.

You checkmated yourself a while back with this one.



RB

[email protected] October 7th 08 06:33 PM

Evo X
 
On 7 Oct, 01:00, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.

I'm guessing that you mean 50 miles from Manhattan or even the
boroughs.
I know you're pretty ignorant, but you might want to check maximum
elevation and distance of Kent Cliffs. The photo was taken from my
deck as stated.

You checkmated yourself a while back with this one.


OK Kent Cliffs is *60* miles north of NYC.
My statement was that it taken more than 50 miles
from NY.
Far from checkmating myself, I have shown you
what can be gleaned from even a poor quality image.

Regards


Donal
--

Capt. Rob October 7th 08 10:45 PM

Evo X
 
On Oct 7, 1:33 pm, wrote:
On 7 Oct, 01:00, "Capt. Rob" wrote:

Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.


I'm guessing that you mean 50 miles from Manhattan or even the
boroughs.
I know you're pretty ignorant, but you might want to check maximum
elevation and distance of Kent Cliffs. The photo was taken from my
deck as stated.


You checkmated yourself a while back with this one.


OK Kent Cliffs is *60* miles north of NYC.
My statement was that it taken more than 50 miles
from NY.
Far from checkmating myself, I have shown you
what can be gleaned from even a poor quality image.




You said it wasn't taken from my home. It was.
You were wrong and even more so since you added the part about
distance, so you were even wrong about where I actually am. So you
were wrong twice.

As for the image, I like it a lot. It's taken piggyback with one short
exposure and no wedge.

But let's not lose sight of your hilarious DB9 computer statement.
That was truly funny! And you got to be wrong yet again!






RB

OzOne October 7th 08 11:05 PM

Evo X
 
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:45:30 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:



As for the image, I like it a lot. It's taken piggyback with one short
exposure and no wedge.


I wanna see this pic!!!!




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

Capt. Rob October 8th 08 01:35 AM

Evo X
 
On Oct 7, 6:05 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:45:30 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"

wrote:

As for the image, I like it a lot. It's taken piggyback with one short
exposure and no wedge.


I wanna see this pic!!!!




Here ya go....

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p677285558-5.jpg

1st time I ever tried such a shot and this was with a Nikon D300 and a
Tamron 90 DI Macro lens, ISO 1000 and 64 seconds. That's near the
limit without an EQ wedge due to field rotation. I was also happy with
it since the Scope was sitting on my wood deck!



RB

OzOne October 8th 08 01:54 AM

Evo X
 
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:35:09 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"
wrote:

On Oct 7, 6:05 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:45:30 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"

wrote:

As for the image, I like it a lot. It's taken piggyback with one short
exposure and no wedge.


I wanna see this pic!!!!




Here ya go....

http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p677285558-5.jpg

1st time I ever tried such a shot and this was with a Nikon D300 and a
Tamron 90 DI Macro lens, ISO 1000 and 64 seconds. That's near the
limit without an EQ wedge due to field rotation. I was also happy with
it since the Scope was sitting on my wood deck!



RB


Oh......




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

[email protected] October 8th 08 12:20 PM

Evo X
 
On 8 Oct, 01:54, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:35:09 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"



wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:05 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:45:30 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"


wrote:


As for the image, I like it a lot. It's taken piggyback with one short
exposure and no wedge.


I wanna see this pic!!!!


Here ya go....


http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p677285558-5.jpg


1st time I ever tried such a shot and this was with a Nikon D300 and a
Tamron 90 DI Macro lens, ISO 1000 and 64 seconds. That's near the
limit without an EQ wedge due to field rotation. I was also happy with
it since the Scope was sitting on my wood deck!


RB


Oh......


Here is another, not very good, image of the same object!

http://www.lanode.com/astro/m31fsqfr.jpg


Regards

Donal
--

[email protected] October 8th 08 12:28 PM

Evo X
 
On 7 Oct, 22:45, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
On Oct 7, 1:33 pm, wrote:



On 7 Oct, 01:00, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.


I'm guessing that you mean 50 miles from Manhattan or even the
boroughs.
I know you're pretty ignorant, but you might want to check maximum
elevation and distance of Kent Cliffs. The photo was taken from my
deck as stated.


You checkmated yourself a while back with this one.


OK Kent Cliffs is *60* miles north of NYC.
My statement was that it taken more than 50 miles
from NY.
Far from checkmating myself, I have shown you
what can be gleaned from even a poor quality image.


You said it wasn't taken from my home.


I don't think that I said that at all. I "found it difficult"
to believe that you took it from home, as I thought that
you lived nearer NYC. The only definite statement
that I made was that the image was not taken within 50
miles of NY. You have proved that I am absolutely correct, as
usual.

It was.
You were wrong and even more so since you added the part about
distance, so you were even wrong about where I actually am. So you
were wrong twice.



Nonsense! Was it taken from Kent Cliffs? Unless there is more than
one
Kent Cliffs in NY, then it was taken 60 miles from the city.


Regards

Donal
--

Capt. Rob October 8th 08 12:34 PM

Evo X
 
On Oct 8, 7:20 am, wrote:
On 8 Oct, 01:54, OzOne wrote:



On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:35:09 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"


wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:05 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:45:30 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"


wrote:


As for the image, I like it a lot. It's taken piggyback with one short
exposure and no wedge.


I wanna see this pic!!!!


Here ya go....


http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p677285558-5.jpg


1st time I ever tried such a shot and this was with a Nikon D300 and a
Tamron 90 DI Macro lens, ISO 1000 and 64 seconds. That's near the
limit without an EQ wedge due to field rotation. I was also happy with
it since the Scope was sitting on my wood deck!


RB


Oh......


Here is another, not very good, image of the same object!

http://www.lanode.com/astro/m31fsqfr.jpg

Regards

Donal
--






Wow! You did that piggyback with one exposure? Zoweee!



RB

Capt. Rob October 8th 08 12:35 PM

Evo X
 
On Oct 8, 7:28 am, wrote:
On 7 Oct, 22:45, "Capt. Rob" wrote:



On Oct 7, 1:33 pm, wrote:


On 7 Oct, 01:00, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.


I'm guessing that you mean 50 miles from Manhattan or even the
boroughs.
I know you're pretty ignorant, but you might want to check maximum
elevation and distance of Kent Cliffs. The photo was taken from my
deck as stated.


You checkmated yourself a while back with this one.


OK Kent Cliffs is *60* miles north of NYC.
My statement was that it taken more than 50 miles
from NY.
Far from checkmating myself, I have shown you
what can be gleaned from even a poor quality image.


You said it wasn't taken from my home.


I don't think that I said that at all. I "found it difficult"
to believe that you took it from home, as I thought that
you lived nearer NYC. The only definite statement
that I made was that the image was not taken within 50
miles of NY. You have proved that I am absolutely correct, as
usual.

It was.
You were wrong and even more so since you added the part about
distance, so you were even wrong about where I actually am. So you
were wrong twice.


Nonsense! Was it taken from Kent Cliffs? Unless there is more than
one
Kent Cliffs in NY, then it was taken 60 miles from the city.





Nonsense? Haven't you been crying that my photo couldn't POSSIBLY
taken from my home? So what exactly were you wrong about? You didn't
know where I live, but still questioned where it was taken?
Hmmmmm?


RB



[email protected] October 8th 08 11:13 PM

Evo X
 
On 8 Oct, 12:35, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
On Oct 8, 7:28 am, wrote:



On 7 Oct, 22:45, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


On Oct 7, 1:33 pm, wrote:


On 7 Oct, 01:00, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.


I'm guessing that you mean 50 miles from Manhattan or even the
boroughs.
I know you're pretty ignorant, but you might want to check maximum
elevation and distance of Kent Cliffs. The photo was taken from my
deck as stated.


You checkmated yourself a while back with this one.


OK Kent Cliffs is *60* miles north of NYC.
My statement was that it taken more than 50 miles
from NY.
Far from checkmating myself, I have shown you
what can be gleaned from even a poor quality image.


You said it wasn't taken from my home.


I don't think that I said that at all. I "found it difficult"
to believe that you took it from home, as I thought that
you lived nearer NYC. The only definite statement
that I made was that the image was not taken within 50
miles of NY. You have proved that I am absolutely correct, as
usual.


It was.
You were wrong and even more so since you added the part about
distance, so you were even wrong about where I actually am. So you
were wrong twice.


Nonsense! Was it taken from Kent Cliffs? Unless there is more than
one
Kent Cliffs in NY, then it was taken 60 miles from the city.


Nonsense? Haven't you been crying that my photo couldn't POSSIBLY
taken from my home? So what exactly were you wrong about? You didn't
know where I live, but still questioned where it was taken?
Hmmmmm?


Now, now, Bob. Calm down.

You are acting like an hyerstical "B" rated actress from the 1930's.

All I said was that it wasn't taken within 50 miles of
NY.


As you know, I was correct. I do understand that you are
irritated by my ability to interpret your rather poor
astrophotograph - taken without a wedge!

I have to hand it to you. At least you recognise that you
would need a wedge to take a proper photo, with that cheap
fork mounted scope. What you don't know, is that even with a wedge,
that setup cannot produce a decent photo.

If you want to take photos, then you need a proper GEM,
or you can spend a million or two on a fork and wedge.


Regards


Donal
--






OzOne October 8th 08 11:33 PM

Evo X
 
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 04:20:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On 8 Oct, 01:54, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:35:09 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"



wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:05 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:45:30 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"


wrote:


As for the image, I like it a lot. It's taken piggyback with one short
exposure and no wedge.


I wanna see this pic!!!!


Here ya go....


http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p677285558-5.jpg

1st time I ever tried such a shot and this was with a Nikon D300 and a
Tamron 90 DI Macro lens, ISO 1000 and 64 seconds. That's near the
limit without an EQ wedge due to field rotation. I was also happy with
it since the Scope was sitting on my wood deck!


RB


Oh......


Here is another, not very good, image of the same object!

http://www.lanode.com/astro/m31fsqfr.jpg


Regards

Donal


Mmmmmmmm




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

Capt. Rob October 8th 08 11:43 PM

Evo X
 
All I said was that it wasn't taken within 50 miles of
NY.




Rewriting history takes some degree of cleverness....and you don't
have it.
You said, again and again, "Care to tell us where you really took the
photo?"
It seems that I did from the start.



RB

[email protected] October 8th 08 11:43 PM

Evo X
 
On 8 Oct, 23:33, OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 8 Oct 2008 04:20:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
On 8 Oct, 01:54, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 17:35:09 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"


wrote:
On Oct 7, 6:05 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 14:45:30 -0700 (PDT), "Capt. Rob"


wrote:


As for the image, I like it a lot. It's taken piggyback with one short
exposure and no wedge.


I wanna see this pic!!!!


Here ya go....


http://ghostlight.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p677285558-5.jpg


1st time I ever tried such a shot and this was with a Nikon D300 and a
Tamron 90 DI Macro lens, ISO 1000 and 64 seconds. That's near the
limit without an EQ wedge due to field rotation. I was also happy with
it since the Scope was sitting on my wood deck!


RB


Oh......


Here is another, not very good, image of the same object!


http://www.lanode.com/astro/m31fsqfr.jpg


Regards


Donal


Mmmmmmmm


If conditions are decent tonight, then I might post a decent photo
of the same object tomorrow!

I'm photographing it now, while Bob is watching an episode
of Baywatch on his home cinema!!



regards


Donal
--

Capt. Rob October 8th 08 11:51 PM

Evo X
 
If you want to take photos, then you need a proper GEM,
or you can spend a million or two on a fork and wedge.



I don't want to take photos, at least not in any serious measure. I
wanted a fun and easy to setup scope that would have great GOTO
abilities and cost less than 3 grand complete. The CPC series delivers
exactly that. All I added was a better diagonal and some Telveues and
it's a perfect scope. BTW, I recently sold my 102 Televue APO and am
buying a William Optics 132 triplet.
Sorry!


RB

[email protected] October 9th 08 10:21 PM

Evo X
 
On 8 Oct, 23:51, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
If you want to take photos, then you need a proper GEM,
or you can spend a million or two on a fork and wedge.

I don't want to take photos, at least not in any serious measure. I
wanted a fun and easy to setup scope that would have great GOTO
abilities and cost less than 3 grand complete. The CPC series delivers
exactly that. All I added was a better diagonal and some Telveues and
it's a perfect scope. BTW, I recently sold my 102 Televue APO and am
buying a William Optics 132 triplet.
Sorry!


Hmmmm...
Your approach to optics seems to be the same as your
approach to boats. You must be the first person in history to move
"up" from a Televue to a Williams Optics.

WO are good, but they are a bit like Celestron. They are
superb value for money. If you want the best, then you
really cannot go for "value for money".

Furthermore, if you want a good refractor, then you need a
quadruplet. The triplets are good, but they are not perfect.

It's a bit like comparing an Evo with a DB9.


Regards


V12 DON
--


Capt. JG October 13th 08 01:28 AM

Evo X
 
wrote in message
...
On 8 Oct, 12:35, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
On Oct 8, 7:28 am, wrote:



On 7 Oct, 22:45, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


On Oct 7, 1:33 pm, wrote:


On 7 Oct, 01:00, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


Now, why don't you tell us where you took that photo of M31? As
I
said
earlier, it wasn't taken within 50 miles of New York.


I'm guessing that you mean 50 miles from Manhattan or even the
boroughs.
I know you're pretty ignorant, but you might want to check
maximum
elevation and distance of Kent Cliffs. The photo was taken from
my
deck as stated.


You checkmated yourself a while back with this one.


OK Kent Cliffs is *60* miles north of NYC.
My statement was that it taken more than 50 miles
from NY.
Far from checkmating myself, I have shown you
what can be gleaned from even a poor quality image.


You said it wasn't taken from my home.


I don't think that I said that at all. I "found it difficult"
to believe that you took it from home, as I thought that
you lived nearer NYC. The only definite statement
that I made was that the image was not taken within 50
miles of NY. You have proved that I am absolutely correct, as
usual.


It was.
You were wrong and even more so since you added the part about
distance, so you were even wrong about where I actually am. So you
were wrong twice.


Nonsense! Was it taken from Kent Cliffs? Unless there is more than
one
Kent Cliffs in NY, then it was taken 60 miles from the city.


Nonsense? Haven't you been crying that my photo couldn't POSSIBLY
taken from my home? So what exactly were you wrong about? You didn't
know where I live, but still questioned where it was taken?
Hmmmmm?


Now, now, Bob. Calm down.

You are acting like an hyerstical "B" rated actress from the 1930's.

All I said was that it wasn't taken within 50 miles of
NY.


As you know, I was correct. I do understand that you are
irritated by my ability to interpret your rather poor
astrophotograph - taken without a wedge!

I have to hand it to you. At least you recognise that you
would need a wedge to take a proper photo, with that cheap
fork mounted scope. What you don't know, is that even with a wedge,
that setup cannot produce a decent photo.

If you want to take photos, then you need a proper GEM,
or you can spend a million or two on a fork and wedge.


Regards


Donal
--



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