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OzOne January 4th 08 10:03 PM

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On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 10:57:23 -0800 (PST), wrote:

OzOne wrote:
Read what?


Hello? Injured crew?


I read sprained ankle.....

If the boat can stay afloat without any assistance , It would
certainly have with someone aboard to help her.


Agreed.
But exercising that option would certainly have involved a face-down
with the USCG.


It will be interestin to hear the tale....

The fact that Joe is working on finding & recovering his boat shows
that he doesn't think it sank; and probably didn't think it was
sinking at the time. They called the USCG to evacuate an injured
crewman and ended up being ordered to *all* evacuate. Standard policy-
the Coasties don't want to come twice to the same rescue. Honestly
don't know I'd do in Joe's situation.

I know of another case (last year) where the USCG did actually tow a
vessel in distress; which AFAIK has been against their policy for
years. They weren't as far out as Joe was though.

DSK





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OzOne January 4th 08 10:04 PM

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On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:34:11 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:



phht, a walk in the park for the mighty Oz.


So just how far could you get with a sprained ankle Scooter?




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OzOne January 4th 08 10:29 PM

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On 4 Jan 2008 16:01:01 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 20:17:35 +0100, "Edgar" said:

Surely a Captain does not relinquish
his rights and responsibilities and has to accept orders from USCG just
because he asked for an injured person to be taken off?


What is the basis for that conclusion? What is the source of those "rights"
you cite? Near as I can tell there isn't any right to specify to the Coast
Guard how they'll conduct a rescue you have asked for. There may, perhaps,
be a right to say "oh, never mind."


It's not a conclusion...IT'S a QUESTION!!!!!




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OzOne January 4th 08 11:35 PM

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On 4 Jan 2008 17:05:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:29:18 +1100, OzOne said:

Surely a Captain does not relinquish
his rights and responsibilities and has to accept orders from USCG just
because he asked for an injured person to be taken off?

What is the basis for that conclusion? What is the source of those "rights"
you cite? Near as I can tell there isn't any right to specify to the Coast
Guard how they'll conduct a rescue you have asked for. There may, perhaps,
be a right to say "oh, never mind."


It's not a conclusion...IT'S a QUESTION!!!!!


Do you start questions with the word "Surely?" I don't.


Surely you noticed the question mark?





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OzOne January 5th 08 12:43 AM

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On 4 Jan 2008 18:37:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:35:17 +1100, OzOne said:

On 4 Jan 2008 17:05:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 09:29:18 +1100, OzOne said:

Surely a Captain does not relinquish
his rights and responsibilities and has to accept orders from USCG just
because he asked for an injured person to be taken off?

What is the basis for that conclusion? What is the source of those "rights"
you cite? Near as I can tell there isn't any right to specify to the Coast
Guard how they'll conduct a rescue you have asked for. There may, perhaps,
be a right to say "oh, never mind."

It's not a conclusion...IT'S a QUESTION!!!!!

Do you start questions with the word "Surely?" I don't.


Surely you noticed the question mark?


I did indeed. I attributed it to the author's lack of familiarity with the
English grammar.


Surely you don't regard that language you speak as English?




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Scotty January 5th 08 12:55 AM

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OzOne wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:34:11 -0500, "Scotty"

wrote:



phht, a walk in the park for the mighty Oz.


So just how far could you get with a sprained ankle

Scooter?

only 1/1,000,000 of what you could. I can't even walk in
your shadow, Ozwald.

Scooter



Scotty January 5th 08 12:56 AM

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OzOne wrote in message
...


I've sailed some 400 miles through a severe storm with a

crew member
cocooned in bedding to help stop the jarring to a broken

leg...

THE MIGHTY OZ HAS SPOKEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



OzOne January 5th 08 02:14 AM

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On 4 Jan 2008 19:15:02 -0600, Dave wrote:

On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 11:43:18 +1100, OzOne said:

Surely you don't regard that language you speak as English?


LOL. This from an Aussie?


Surely you jest?

from an Ozzie with an understanding of Enlish as it's supposed to be
written...with 's's not zeeee's.




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OzOne January 5th 08 02:15 AM

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On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 19:55:08 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:


OzOne wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 11:34:11 -0500, "Scotty"

wrote:



phht, a walk in the park for the mighty Oz.


So just how far could you get with a sprained ankle

Scooter?

only 1/1,000,000 of what you could. I can't even walk in
your shadow, Ozwald.

Scooter


In that case Scooter you could manage a 10 metres or so.....with ease.




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OzOne January 5th 08 02:19 AM

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On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 19:56:47 -0500, "Scotty" wrote:


OzOne wrote in message
.. .


I've sailed some 400 miles through a severe storm with a

crew member
cocooned in bedding to help stop the jarring to a broken

leg...

THE MIGHTY OZ HAS SPOKEN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yep, and my crew was very happy to get to hospital in Crete.

Tell me Scooter would you abandon your boat if you sprained an ankle?
(Now that this has degenerated from my original comment that if the
boat is still afloat unmanned then it was abandoned too quickly)




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