"Scotty" wrote in message
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I'm betting (hoping) we don't. I think Neal has a lot of
respect for Joe.

SBV



"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 11:41:44 -0800, "Capt. JG"
said:

In any case, he was out there doing it, while a lot of
others talk a good
act, but in fact do little.

I have not doubt we'll hear from one of Neal's socks
shortly.




Doubtful... Neal doesn't have a lot of respect for anyone.

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Bill Warnock wrote:
A sad day


Yes it is... I've certainly enjoyed Joe's postings and
contributions particularly those having to do with sailing
and general marine info.

He is a man of maritime experience and knowledge.

I wonder if an attempt will be made to salvage Red Cloud
or will it be deemed a hazard and sunk assuming it is still
afloat?

One news report stated that Joe was looking into the possibility of
salvaging Red Cloud.

Certainly a sad day for Joe and Terry, but thank God that they are back
safe and (mostly) sound. Apparently this was a rather difficult rescue
situation for the CC.

Jim Cate


Incidentally, if the group decides to organize a collection, I would
want to contribute. I'm assuming his insurance would cover most related
expenses.

"JimC" wrote in message
...


Bill Warnock wrote:
A sad day


Yes it is... I've certainly enjoyed Joe's postings and
contributions particularly those having to do with sailing
and general marine info.

He is a man of maritime experience and knowledge.

I wonder if an attempt will be made to salvage Red Cloud
or will it be deemed a hazard and sunk assuming it is still
afloat?

One news report stated that Joe was looking into the possibility of
salvaging Red Cloud.

Certainly a sad day for Joe and Terry, but thank God that they are back
safe and (mostly) sound. Apparently this was a rather difficult rescue
situation for the CC.

Jim Cate


Incidentally, if the group decides to organize a collection, I would want
to contribute. I'm assuming his insurance would cover most related
expenses.


Definitely... count me in.


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On Wed, 02 Jan 2008 08:20:17 -0500, jeff wrote this
crap:

http://www.khou.com/news/local/stori...ue.c061dc.html

A sad day - at least they are all safe.

They lost the coffee! Oh the humanity!!!




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Dave wrote:
I have not doubt we'll hear from one of Neal's socks shortly.

That would be far better than hearing from one of Neal's shorts
sockly.

DSK

Capt. JG wrote:
"Ted Bunter" wrote in message
...
More he

http://www.dogflu.ca/01022008/12/coa..._dog_from_boat



Wow... after all Joe said/did about his retrofit. It's hard to imagine how
rough it must have been (ocean conditions and psychological effect of having
to abandon her).

I hope we'll hear the first-hand account when Joe gets back and gets
settled.

Fortunately, it was only a thing that was damaged or lost, not a person.

In any case, he was out there doing it, while a lot of others talk a good
act, but in fact do little.


As I'm rarely here now, just seen all of this, watched the video. Video
or photos won't show the half of it (the Sydney Hobart disaster photos
just looked like a rough sea...) But there's a video shot of Red Cloud
falling off a wave that gives a good (=very bad)feel for the conditions.

And yes, well put. They were out there doing...

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On Jan 2, 7:20*am, jeff wrote:
http://www.khou.com/news/local/stori...grescue.c061dc....

A sad day - at least they are all safe.

A sad day indeed. Glad to hear everyone is safe and hope Joe is able
to find Red Cloud and bring her home safely.

Barb

On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 10:55:20 +1030, Flying Tadpole
wrote this crap:

As I'm rarely here now, just seen all of this, watched the video. Video
or photos won't show the half of it (the Sydney Hobart disaster photos
just looked like a rough sea...) But there's a video shot of Red Cloud
falling off a wave that gives a good (=very bad)feel for the conditions.

And yes, well put. They were out there doing...

At least nobody was eaten by tigers.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 17:38:11 -0800 (PST), ladysailor
wrote:

On Jan 2, 7:20*am, jeff wrote:
http://www.khou.com/news/local/stori...grescue.c061dc....

A sad day - at least they are all safe.

A sad day indeed. Glad to hear everyone is safe and hope Joe is able
to find Red Cloud and bring her home safely.

Barb

Yes, sad...though I'd respectfully suggest that if Red Cloud manages
to stay afloat unmanned then she was abandoned way to quickly.




OzOne of the three twins

I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.

A sad day indeed. Glad to hear everyone is safe and hope Joe is able
to find Red Cloud and bring her home safely.


One of the news articles said that the USCG had put a tracking device
aboard to make here easy to find. With any luck at all, Joe is out
there now towing her back.


OzOne wrote:
Yes, sad...though I'd respectfully suggest that if Red Cloud manages
to stay afloat unmanned then she was abandoned way to quickly.


Well, the problem is not that she was sinking (although apparently
taking on water thru broken elements of the superstructure) but that
one of the crew was injured. Changes the equation entirely, and the
USCG will not evacuate one person of the crew. It's either all or none
(a policy that I can see the reason for, but don't agree with).

Fresh Breezes- Doug King