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Let's not forget what happened this morning, many years ago.
http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com..._timeline.html Douglas King, ex-BT1(SW) USN |
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AMEN !
wrote in message groups.com... Let's not forget what happened this morning, many years ago. http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com...or/history/pea rlharbor_timeline.html Douglas King, ex-BT1(SW) USN |
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wrote in message
... Let's not forget what happened this morning, many years ago. http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com..._timeline.html Douglas King, ex-BT1(SW) USN Right on. And, we didn't invade Mexico as a result. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... wrote in message groups.com... Let's not forget what happened this morning, many years ago. http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com...or/history/pea rlharbor_timeline.html Douglas King, ex-BT1(SW) USN Right on. And, we didn't invade Mexico as a result. We should have. |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... Let's not forget what happened this morning, many years ago. http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com..._timeline.html Douglas King, ex-BT1(SW) USN Right on. And, we didn't invade Mexico as a result. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zimmermann_Telegram WWII was the last war the US "won". It was the last war we were ever attacked first and the last war that the Congress declared. I still question whether the US won because of all the territory that fell into the hands of tyranny. The world was less free after the war than before. I think the US should go to war only if Congress declares it. The only war the US should have ever been involved in was the Revolutionary War. All the other wars were unecessary, no matter how many times Canada tried to invade. |
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"Scotty" wrote in message
. .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... wrote in message groups.com... Let's not forget what happened this morning, many years ago. http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com...or/history/pea rlharbor_timeline.html Douglas King, ex-BT1(SW) USN Right on. And, we didn't invade Mexico as a result. We should have. Why? Did your gardener quit? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Let's not forget what happened this morning, many years
ago. "Capt. JG" wrote Right on. And, we didn't invade Mexico as a result. "Scotty" wrote: We should have. It's not too late. DSK |
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:39:12 -0800 (PST), wrote: Let's not forget what happened this morning, many years ago. "Capt. JG" wrote Right on. And, we didn't invade Mexico as a result. "Scotty" wrote: We should have. It's not too late. DSK Yes it is. We waited too long, and now they have invaded US. True |
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... Let's not forget what happened this morning, many years ago. "Capt. JG" wrote Right on. And, we didn't invade Mexico as a result. "Scotty" wrote: We should have. It's not too late. DSK That's right... Iran is a threat! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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... On Fri, 7 Dec 2007 14:39:12 -0800 (PST), wrote: Let's not forget what happened this morning, many years ago. "Capt. JG" wrote Right on. And, we didn't invade Mexico as a result. "Scotty" wrote: We should have. It's not too late. DSK Yes it is. We waited too long, and now they have invaded US. When you're right, you're right. My gardener is a bit uppity. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Bob Crantz wrote: The only war the US should
have ever been involved in was the Revolutionary War. All the other wars were unecessary, no matter how many times Canada tried to invade. Wad der ya mean, "Tried to invade"? We did, burned something in DC I think.. Cheers Marty |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Scotty" wrote in message . .. "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... wrote in message groups.com... Let's not forget what happened this morning, many years ago. http://plasma.nationalgeographic.com...or/history/pea rlharbor_timeline.html Douglas King, ex-BT1(SW) USN Right on. And, we didn't invade Mexico as a result. We should have. Why? Did your gardener quit? My gardener is Canadian. Can't understand a word he says, but he knows how to trim bushes, eh. |
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"Marty" wrote in message ... Bob Crantz wrote: The only war the US should have ever been involved in was the Revolutionary War. All the other wars were unecessary, no matter how many times Canada tried to invade. Wad der ya mean, "Tried to invade"? We did, burned something in DC I think.. A noble gesture indeed! But you failed to occupy the place, now look at the mess! It's all Canada's fault!!! Amen! |
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You people don't seem to remember to well.
The Japs attacked us at Pearl Harbor, in the Pacific and we invaded North Africa. |
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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
... You people don't seem to remember to well. The Japs attacked us at Pearl Harbor, in the Pacific and we invaded North Africa. Yeah, and we declared war on Hitler after he declared war on us, Hitler and Japan being aligned. What's your point? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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My point Jon, is the number of friends I lost to the Japs in the Pacific
while we were fighting in the European Theatre and retreating all over the Pacific Theatre. Which enemy of the Axis Powers was it that actually Attack us? I can't ever remember Germany or Italy ever attacking American Territory. It seemed to me at the time we were concentrating on the wrong enemy, I still feel the same after 66 years. That Jon is; "MY POINT" |
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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
... My point Jon, is the number of friends I lost to the Japs in the Pacific while we were fighting in the European Theatre and retreating all over the Pacific Theatre. Which enemy of the Axis Powers was it that actually Attack us? I can't ever remember Germany or Italy ever attacking American Territory. It seemed to me at the time we were concentrating on the wrong enemy, I still feel the same after 66 years. That Jon is; "MY POINT" You think Hitler was the wrong enemy???? JML Sigs -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Sat, 8 Dec 2007 21:12:36 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
wrote this crap: Which enemy of the Axis Powers was it that actually Attack us? Japan. I can't ever remember Germany or Italy ever attacking American Territory. They attacked our allies, and their allies attacked our territory. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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Bob Crantz wrote:
"Marty" wrote in message ... Bob Crantz wrote: The only war the US should have ever been involved in was the Revolutionary War. All the other wars were unecessary, no matter how many times Canada tried to invade. Wad der ya mean, "Tried to invade"? We did, burned something in DC I think.. A noble gesture indeed! But you failed to occupy the place, now look at the mess! You have a point there. It's all Canada's fault!!! Amen! |
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A rather stupid question Jon, Your saying the Jap weren't the enemy that
Hitler was? I don't remember Hilter's forces killing American civilians but I do know the Japs did. At Pearl and after in the Philippines! I guess it's time for me to ask;"What's your Point?" You don't have to answer. I'll not continue to discuss this issue with you. I know now you considered those deaths in the Pacific expendable lives so that we could save England's ass. As the English were so guick to say about Americans; Over paid, over sexed and over here. I'm afraid it's something I lived. |
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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
... A rather stupid question Jon, Your saying the Jap weren't the enemy that Hitler was? I don't remember Hilter's forces killing American civilians but I do know the Japs did. At Pearl and after in the Philippines! Never said that. What you said was that Hitler was the wrong enemy, and I asked why. Doesn't seem stupid to me. I guess it's time for me to ask;"What's your Point?" Iraq wasn't an enemy of the US, yet we attacked. That was my point. I know now you considered those deaths in the Pacific expendable lives so that we could save England's ass. Huh? That makes no sense. As the English were so guick to say about Americans; Over paid, over sexed and over here. I'm afraid it's something I lived. So, you would have preferred that England fell to Hitler, and we should have sat on our collective butts getting ready to attack Japan? How many millions more would have died? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Vito" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote What you said was that Hitler was the wrong enemy, and I asked why. Just think!! If GW Bush had been President then, we would have invaded Russia or Australia, still be bogged down, and Japan would have won. Lordy but you people are sooooooooooo stupid with your discussions. Stupid and clueless. Listen up. The events of September 11, 2001 changed the face of warfare forever. This is a fact. After that heinous terrorist attack any responsible and sensible leader of a country that had been attacked had no choice but to assume a proactive stance against ANY EMINENT source of a new attack. Saddam Hussein was one such source. He had to go. He is gone, thank God! Iran is next on the list of threats. Sooner or later the leaders of Iran have to go. It's that simple and it's been stated about a million times but you fools still stick your fool heads up your asses and ignore the facts. You idiots choose to stick your heads up your asses and wait for the next attack at which time you will extend your fool necks several inches more and cram your heads even further up your ass. Thank God President Bush is no such a cowardly fool as you wankstains are. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Vito" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote What you said was that Hitler was the wrong enemy, and I asked why. Just think!! If GW Bush had been President then, we would have invaded Russia or Australia, still be bogged down, and Japan would have won. True, but I have friends who are Japanese. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Vito" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote What you said was that Hitler was the wrong enemy, and I asked why. Just think!! If GW Bush had been President then, we would have invaded Russia or Australia, still be bogged down, and Japan would have won. True, but I have friends who are Japanese. What is your point, Jon? I have friends who are German, but they live in Germany and are not in Uk lording it over all my compatriots as they would have been if we had not wiped Hitler off the map. |
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Thom Stewart wrote:
I can't ever remember Germany or Italy ever attacking American Territory. Bloody Horvath wrote: They attacked our allies, and their allies attacked our territory. A U-boat torpedoed a U.S. Navy warship http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_A...n_World_War_II President Roosevelt would have led the U.S. into the war sooner, probably with a quicker & better outcome, but he was strongly opposed by Republicans.... some of whom opposed him out of isolationist principles, some out of snotty partisanship, and others because they were profitably trading with the Axis... DSK |
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"Edgar" wrote in message
... "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... "Vito" wrote in message ... "Capt. JG" wrote What you said was that Hitler was the wrong enemy, and I asked why. Just think!! If GW Bush had been President then, we would have invaded Russia or Australia, still be bogged down, and Japan would have won. True, but I have friends who are Japanese. What is your point, Jon? I have friends who are German, but they live in Germany and are not in Uk lording it over all my compatriots as they would have been if we had not wiped Hitler off the map. No point... Achtung! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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A U-boat torpedoed a U.S. Navy warship
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_A...n_World_War_II Bloody Horvath wrote: Actually, a German U-boat did surface off the East Coast, and shelled US territory. Another U-boat once mined New York Harbor. You can look these up. Before the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor? I didn't think so. The sinking of the Reuben James occured months before. DSK |
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True, but I have friends who are Japanese.
"Edgar" wrote: What is your point, Jon? I'm thinking that his point may have been that it was a long time ago and that citizens of the former Axis countries, and their current gov'ts, should not be objects of hatred & invective. I really didn't start this thread with the intention of opening old wounds. DSK |
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... True, but I have friends who are Japanese. "Edgar" wrote: What is your point, Jon? I'm thinking that his point may have been that it was a long time ago and that citizens of the former Axis countries, and their current gov'ts, should not be objects of hatred & invective. I really didn't start this thread with the intention of opening old wounds. DSK Ummm.. yeah, that was my point. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Vito" wrote in message ... "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote The events of September 11, 2001 changed the face of warfare forever. This is a fact. No it is not. (you must be very young or lived in a dream). Radical Islamic terrorism has been with us long before 9/11. That's just when a few fools woke up. After that heinous terrorist attack any responsible and sensible leader of a country that had been attacked had no choice but to assume a proactive stance against ANY EMINENT source of a new attack. Saddam Hussein was one such source. No, he was not! Quite the opposite. Saddam, while not a nice guy, was perhaps the biggest deterrent to the expansion of the real enemy - radical Islam - in the region. He had no ties to the religious radicals who perp'ed 9/11 - rather he and his secular regime were their bitter enemies. It's that simple and it's been stated about a million times but you fools still stick your fool heads up your asses and ignore the facts. What "facts" Will? Bush's WMD bull****? Bin Ladin and al Qaeda are still around only because that idiot of yours deverted the resources needed to catch and eliminate them so as to forward a personal family vendetta against Saddam. That's the fact. What an idiot you are! Do you really think the United States' military is incapable of fighting a war or two and looking for one renegade at the same time? Do you really think it takes the resources of the entire U.S. military to go after and catch one man like Bin Laden who probably isn't even alive any more? Get real you pathetic liberal jerk! Because you hate the U.S. military and think it should be nothing but a meals-on-wheels organization like your hero B.J. Clinton did it doesn't mean the military is as inept as you seem to think or wish it would be. You are a leech riding freedom won by the military and at the same time trying to knock the wheels out from under the freedom wagon with your pathetic little plastic play hammer. You and your ignorant pacifist ilk are pathetic jokes. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Wilbur Hubbard wrote:
What an idiot you are! Do you really think the United States' military is incapable of fighting a war or two and looking for one renegade at the same time? Do you really think it takes the resources of the entire U.S. military to go after and catch one man like Bin Laden That would be why Bin Laden is in US custody. Because you hate the U.S. military and think it should be nothing but a meals-on-wheels organization I thought you were an english major and could understand common prose. like your hero B.J. Clinton did it doesn't mean the military is as inept as you seem to think or wish it would be. You are a leech riding freedom won by the military Do tell us about your glorious military career. Wearing the uniform of a city sanitation worker does not count. and at the same time trying to knock the wheels out from under the freedom wagon with your pathetic little plastic play hammer. You and your ignorant pacifist Pacifist? Once again your misguided imagination runs wild. Cheers Marty |
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On Tue, 11 Dec 2007 15:15:02 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: You are a leech riding freedom won by the military This statement has me pondering. When was the US not free? What are these freedoms that have been won? OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. |
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Just a side bar. Today in history;
In 1937, Japanese aircraft sank the U.S. gunboat Panay on China's Yangtze River. (Japan apologized, and paid $2.2 million in reparations.) |
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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
... Just a side bar. Today in history; In 1937, Japanese aircraft sank the U.S. gunboat Panay on China's Yangtze River. (Japan apologized, and paid $2.2 million in reparations.) In that case, we should have attacked Sweden. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Just a side bar. Today in history; In 1937, Japanese aircraft sank the U.S. gunboat Panay on China's Yangtze River. (Japan apologized, and paid $2.2 million in reparations.) In that case, we should have attacked Sweden. You're just a tad off there, Lichtenstein would have been better, no navy! Cheers Marty |
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:33:48 -0500, Marty wrote this
crap: You're just a tad off there, Lichtenstein would have been better, no navy! No army, either. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:33:48 -0500, Marty wrote this crap: You're just a tad off there, Lichtenstein would have been better, no navy! No army, either. Perfect! Cheers Marty |
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You are a
leech riding freedom won by the military OzOne wrote: This statement has me pondering. When was the US not free? What are these freedoms that have been won? Well, we are free to not pay taxes to King George III Of course, technically it was not the U.S. military but the Continental Army and lots of state militias which won that for us Prior to 1865, about 20% of the population were slaves... freedom for them was won by the U.S. military Prior to 1920, about 51% of the population were not allowed to vote. The U.S. military had nothing to do with winning that freedom. So 1 out of 3 ain't bad ;) DSK |
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