Bart wrote:
Trip Report: Mystic to St Thomas Hanse 400 delivery

For the most part it was an uneventful trip. I'll post some
links to pictures/video's when I get some more time.

Thanks for the report Bart, interesting and informitive as always.

BTW, what were you doing visiting Bermuda, a bit risky considering they
have universal health coverage and all.....;-)

Cheers
Marty

On Nov 28, 12:15 pm, Martin Baxter wrote:
Bart wrote:
Trip Report: Mystic to St Thomas Hanse 400 delivery

For the most part it was an uneventful trip. I'll post some
links to pictures/video's when I get some more time.

Thanks for the report Bart, interesting and informitive as always.

BTW, what were you doing visiting Bermuda, a bit risky considering they
have universal health coverage and all.....;-)

Cheers
Marty

Jeez Marty, I didn't know they were a communist country!

Bermuda has some advantages. A nice selection of
cigars comes to mind. I liked the place, but I really haven't
spent much time there. They have an Etchells fleet there,
so they can't be all bad. I'd like to spend a week there and
really explore the place.

If it were not for a crew change, I'd generally be in favor
of by-passing Bermuda. On the other hand, it did allow
for a relatively calm passage sitting out the front that
passed through.

My buddy Peter tells me the Hanse's don't handle
big wind close hauled very well. He tells me you can't
shorten sail enough. We had a storm sail rigged and
ready to set on an inner forestay, but no tri-sail. I'd
think it would be easy enough to rig that up.

The latest news I got was that my friend Mike, who
finished straightening out the boat, and left last
--forgot to close the forward hatch. The V-berth got
soaked, and the boat took on a fair amount of water.

The local who normally checks on the boat was off
visiting and not available to check on the boat. I feel
bad that James and I rushed out of there. I offered to
stay an extra day and sort things out and the owner
dissuaded me, wanting me to get home for
Thanksgiving. My mistake was bringing along a
fellow with no ocean experience and not enough
practical experience. he was so eager and had
done fine on several island charters--I thought he
would handle it better.

While James was a pain in the ass at times, I
really liked both his cooking and his iron stomach.
He was pretty good crew, albeit his sail trim needs
some improvement. I've heard some skippers only
choose crew with strong stomach's. It is not a bad
idea to have someone that has been tested a bit.

We all had a few laughs about Mike sea sickness,
even if it was no joke for him. We saw only three
ships, a container ship, a cruise ship and a Very
Large Crude Carrier. Mike looked at the cruise
ship like he wanted to get off. Sick as he was, I bet
he would have paid anything to get on that cruise
ship!

My feeling is you have to stand your watch no
matter how sick you feel. If you fold up and don't
even try, it just gives your mind more time to feel
sorry for yourself and you just feel sicker. It is far
better to puke on your shoes a few times than to
lay in your bunk dizzy and weak.

Next time I plan to bring some Ambien. I think a
mind numbing sleep aid will prevent sea sickness.

In article , Martin Baxter wrote:
Bart wrote:
Trip Report: Mystic to St Thomas Hanse 400 delivery

For the most part it was an uneventful trip. I'll post some
links to pictures/video's when I get some more time.

Thanks for the report Bart, interesting and informitive as always.

BTW, what were you doing visiting Bermuda, a bit risky considering they
have universal health coverage and all.....;-)

Joking aside, do you have medical insurance for places that don't have automatic coverage?

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article , Martin Baxter wrote:
Bart wrote:
Trip Report: Mystic to St Thomas Hanse 400 delivery

For the most part it was an uneventful trip. I'll post some
links to pictures/video's when I get some more time.
Thanks for the report Bart, interesting and informitive as always.

BTW, what were you doing visiting Bermuda, a bit risky considering they
have universal health coverage and all.....;-)

Joking aside, do you have medical insurance for places that don't have automatic coverage


Yes, with limitations. Our health insurance is Federally mandated, but
Provincialy implimented, in my case that's OHIP (Ontario Health
Insurance Program). There are limitations though, generally OHIP won't
pay any more than what they'd pay in Canada, which works fine if you're
in most countries. It is woefully lacking if you get sick in the US;
most people take out additional private coverage if they're journying to
the US for any length of time.

Cheers
Marty

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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article , Martin Baxter
wrote:
Bart wrote:
Trip Report: Mystic to St Thomas Hanse 400 delivery

For the most part it was an uneventful trip. I'll post some
links to pictures/video's when I get some more time.
Thanks for the report Bart, interesting and informitive as always.

BTW, what were you doing visiting Bermuda, a bit risky considering they
have universal health coverage and all.....;-)

Joking aside, do you have medical insurance for places that don't have
automatic coverage


Yes, with limitations. Our health insurance is Federally mandated, but
Provincialy implimented, in my case that's OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance
Program). There are limitations though, generally OHIP won't pay any more
than what they'd pay in Canada, which works fine if you're in most
countries. It is woefully lacking if you get sick in the US; most people
take out additional private coverage if they're journying to the US for
any length of time.

Cheers
Marty


Don't feel bad. We don't insure sick children either.


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Capt. JG wrote:

Yes, with limitations. Our health insurance is Federally mandated, but
Provincialy implimented, in my case that's OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance
Program). There are limitations though, generally OHIP won't pay any more
than what they'd pay in Canada, which works fine if you're in most
countries. It is woefully lacking if you get sick in the US; most people
take out additional private coverage if they're journying to the US for
any length of time.

Cheers
Marty


Don't feel bad. We don't insure sick children either.

The US spends more, per capita on health than any other industrialized
nation in the world, yet it manages to deliver that health care to a
lower percentage of the population than those same nations. The Infant
mortality rate is alway interesting to look at, US=6.82 per 1000 live
births, Cuba=6.45, Aruba 6.02, Canada 4.82, France 4.31, Czech Republic
3.97, Iceland 3.31........there at least 36 countries that do better
than the US.

Cheers
Marty

Don't feel bad. We don't insure sick children either.

Martin Baxter wrote:
The US spends more, per capita on health than any other industrialized
nation in the world, yet it manages to deliver that health care to a
lower percentage of the population than those same nations. The Infant
mortality rate is alway interesting to look at, US=6.82 per 1000 live
births, Cuba=6.45, Aruba 6.02, Canada 4.82, France 4.31, Czech Republic
3.97, Iceland 3.31........there at least 36 countries that do better
than the US.


Yep. It's rather pathetic. However, all the usual rhetoric doesn't
begin to reflect the reality.

The U.S. delivers billions of dollars of free health care to low-
income people... the problem is that much of it is "delivered" via
emergency rooms & tertiary care centers, very very inefficient. And
since it also unreimbursed, the provider has to charge everybody else
more, or go out of business (it's happening... about a dozen big-city
emergency rooms have closed their doors in the past year).

Another issue is that a large percent of U.S. health-care dollars go
to pay lawsuits and insurance against lawsuits. Our legal system makes
more money off "health care" than doctors do; and we've substituted a
winner-take-all lottery for sensible standard-of-care risk management.

And you will never, never, never, hear either of these issues (among
many other root problems) addressed by politicians (who are lawyers
themselves, remember) who want to "fix health care" for you.

Regards
Doug King

Dave wrote:
On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 12:26:28 -0800 (PST), said:

The U.S. delivers billions of dollars of free health care to low-
income people... the problem is that much of it is "delivered" via
emergency rooms & tertiary care centers, very very inefficient. And
since it also unreimbursed, the provider has to charge everybody else
more, or go out of business (it's happening... about a dozen big-city
emergency rooms have closed their doors in the past year).

In a way that's what happens up here, we pay pretty high taxes on
everything we consume, particularly high on gasoline, tobacco and booze.
Those with any sort of decent income also get to pay a particularly
regressive form of tax called a "Health Care Surcharge", introduced by
our LIBERAL provincial government a few years ago. For a single mother
of two, earning 30k it's about 600 bucks extra on her provincial income
tax, an increase of around 30%, for someone reporting 500k, it maxs out
at 1200, a very small increase: Sound fair to you? Further to the point,
since everybody is going to get health care, it behooves the Provinces
to deliver it to the indigent in a pro-active, preventative manner.

The Feds pay for the biggest chunk of the health care bill, they
transfer billion to the provinces specifically earmarked for health care.

Another issue is that a large percent of U.S. health-care dollars go
to pay lawsuits and insurance against lawsuits. Our legal system makes
more money off "health care" than doctors do; and we've substituted a
winner-take-all lottery for sensible standard-of-care risk management.

Interestingly, the average malpractice settlement/judgment in Canada is
higher than in the US, but we have a lot less of them.


And you will never, never, never, hear either of these issues (among
many other root problems) addressed by politicians (who are lawyers
themselves, remember) who want to "fix health care" for you.

All good points all, Doug. (What's the world coming to that I'm agreeing
with you on something.)

Add to the above the fact that for the last 65 years we've been steadily
throwing more money at doctors in the form of tax benefits and employer
subsidies that remove any incentive whatever to treat a sniffle with chicken
soup rather than a visit to the doctor's office, and you've got a recipe for
financial disaster.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say here Dave, very little of your
health care dollar finds it's way into the hands of doctors, about 6%.

Cheers
Marty