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It looks like the second Age of Sail is upon us.
According to this author. The world reached "Peak Oil" in 2006 measured against real production numbers--not hypothetical predictions! ************************************************** ************* http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html Steep decline in oil production brings risk of war and unrest, says new study · Output peaked in 2006 and will fall 7% a year · Decline in gas, coal and uranium also predicted Ashley Seager Monday October 22, 2007 The Guardian World oil production has already peaked and will fall by half as soon as 2030, according to a report which also warns that extreme shortages of fossil fuels will lead to wars and social breakdown. The German-based Energy Watch Group will release its study in London today saying that global oil production peaked in 2006 - much earlier than most experts had expected. The report, which predicts that production will now fall by 7% a year, comes after oil prices set new records almost every day last week, on Friday hitting more than $90 (£44) a barrel. Article continues "The world soon will not be able to produce all the oil it needs as demand is rising while supply is falling. This is a huge problem for the world economy," said Hans-Josef Fell, EWG's founder and the German MP behind the country's successful support system for renewable energy. The report's author, Joerg Schindler, said its most alarming finding was the steep decline in oil production after its peak, which he says is now behind us. The results are in contrast to projections from the International Energy Agency, which says there is little reason to worry about oil supplies at the moment. However, the EWG study relies more on actual oil production data which, it says, are more reliable than estimates of reserves still in the ground. The group says official industry estimates put global reserves at about 1.255 gigabarrels - equivalent to 42 years' supply at current consumption rates. But it thinks the figure is only about two thirds of that. Global oil production is currently about 81m barrels a day - EWG expects that to fall to 39m by 2030. It also predicts significant falls in gas, coal and uranium production as those energy sources are used up. Britain's oil production peaked in 1999 and has already dropped by half to about 1.6 million barrels a day. The report presents a bleak view of the future unless a radically different approach is adopted. It quotes the British energy economist David Fleming as saying: "Anticipated supply shortages could lead easily to disturbing scenes of mass unrest as witnessed in Burma this month. For government, industry and the wider public, just muddling through is not an option any more as this situation could spin out of control and turn into a complete meltdown of society." Mr Schindler comes to a similar conclusion. "The world is at the beginning of a structural change of its economic system. This change will be triggered by declining fossil fuel supplies and will influence almost all aspects of our daily life." Jeremy Leggett, one of Britain's leading environmentalists and the author of Half Gone, a book about "peak oil" - defined as the moment when maximum production is reached, said that both the UK government and the energy industry were in "institutionalised denial" and that action should have been taken sooner. "When I was an adviser to government, I proposed that we set up a taskforce to look at how fast the UK could mobilise alternative energy technologies in extremis, come the peak," he said. "Other industry advisers supported that. But the government prefers to sleep on without even doing a contingency study. For those of us who know that premature peak oil is a clear and present danger, it is impossible to understand such complacency." Mr Fell said that the world had to move quickly towards the massive deployment of renewable energy and to a dramatic increase in energy efficiency, both as a way to combat climate change and to ensure that the lights stayed on. "If we did all this we may not have an energy crisis." He accused the British government of hypocrisy. "Tony Blair and Gordon Brown have talked a lot about climate change but have not brought in proper policies to drive up the use of renewables," he said. "This is why they are left talking about nuclear and carbon capture and storage. " Yesterday, a spokesman for the Department of Business and Enterprise said: "Over the next few years global oil production and refining capacity is expected to increase faster than demand. The world's oil resources are sufficient to sustain economic growth for the foreseeable future. The challenge will be to bring these resources to market in a way that ensures sustainable, timely, reliable and affordable supplies of energy." The German policy, which guarantees above-market payments to producers of renewable power, is being adopted in many countries - but not Britain, where renewables generate about 4% of the country's electricity and 2% of its overall energy needs. |
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On Oct 25, 9:58 pm, Bart wrote:
It looks like the second Age of Sail is upon us. According to this author. The world reached "Peak Oil" in 2006 measured against real production numbers--not hypothetical predictions! ************************************************** ************* http://www.guardian.co.uk/oil/story/0,,2196435,00.html Steep decline in oil production brings risk of war and unrest, says new study · Output peaked in 2006 and will fall 7% a year · Decline in gas, coal and uranium also predicted Ashley Seager Monday October 22, 2007 The Guardian World oil production has already peaked and will fall by half as soon as 2030, according to a report which also warns that extreme shortages of fossil fuels will lead to wars and social breakdown. The German-based Energy Watch Group will release its study in London today saying that global oil production peaked in 2006 - much earlier than most experts had expected. The report, which predicts that production will now fall by 7% a year, comes after oil prices set new records almost every day last week, on Friday hitting more than $90 (£44) a barrel. Article continues "The world soon will not be able to produce all the oil it needs as demand is rising while supply is falling. This is a huge problem for the world economy," said Hans-Josef Fell, EWG's founder and the German MP behind the country's successful support system for renewable energy. The report's author, Joerg Schindler, said its most alarming finding was the steep decline in oil production after its peak, which he says is now behind us. The results are in contrast to projections from the International Energy Agency, which says there is little reason to worry about oil supplies at the moment. However, the EWG study relies more on actual oil production data which, it says, are more reliable than estimates of reserves still in the ground. The group says official industry estimates put global reserves at about 1.255 gigabarrels - equivalent to 42 years' supply at current consumption rates. But it thinks the figure is only about two thirds of that. Global oil production is currently about 81m barrels a day - EWG expects that to fall to 39m by 2030. It also predicts significant falls in gas, coal and uranium production as those energy sources are used up. Britain's oil production peaked in 1999 and has already dropped by half to about 1.6 million barrels a day. The report presents a bleak view of the future unless a radically different approach is adopted. It quotes the British energy economist David Fleming as saying: "Anticipated supply shortages could lead easily to disturbing scenes of mass unrest as witnessed in Burma this month. For government, industry and the wider public, just muddling through is not an option any more as this situation could spin out of control and turn into a complete meltdown of society." Mr Schindler comes to a similar conclusion. "The world is at the beginning of a structural change of its economic system. This change will be triggered by declining fossil fuel supplies and will influence almost all aspects of our daily life." Jeremy Leggett, one of Britain's leading environmentalists and the author of Half Gone, a book about "peak oil" - defined as the moment when maximum production is reached, said that both the UK government and the energy industry were in "institutionalised denial" and that action should have been taken sooner. "When I was an adviser to government, I proposed that we set up a taskforce to look at how fast the UK could mobilise alternative energy technologies in extremis, come the peak," he said. "Other industry advisers supported that. But the government prefers to sleep on without even doing a contingency study. For those of us who know that premature peak oil is a clear and present danger, it is impossible to understand such complacency." Mr Fell said that the world had to move quickly towards the massive deployment of renewable energy and to a dramatic increase in energy efficiency, both as a way to combat climate change and to ensure that the lights stayed on. "If we did all this we may not have an energy crisis." He accused the British government of hypocrisy. "Tony Blair and Gordon Brown have talked a lot about climate change but have not brought in proper policies to drive up the use of renewables," he said. "This is why they are left talking about nuclear and carbon capture and storage. " Yesterday, a spokesman for the Department of Business and Enterprise said: "Over the next few years global oil production and refining capacity is expected to increase faster than demand. The world's oil resources are sufficient to sustain economic growth for the foreseeable future. The challenge will be to bring these resources to market in a way that ensures sustainable, timely, reliable and affordable supplies of energy." The German policy, which guarantees above-market payments to producers of renewable power, is being adopted in many countries - but not Britain, where renewables generate about 4% of the country's electricity and 2% of its overall energy needs. Shipping Coffee by sail;, since it is the second largest commody traded on earth, would be a good thing to start now....IMO ;0) Joe |
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Bart wrote:
It looks like the second Age of Sail is upon us. According to this author. The world reached "Peak Oil" in 2006 measured against real production numbers--not hypothetical predictions! The German-based Energy Watch Group I wouldn't believe anything these guys write Bart, they're a Liberal, Global Warming touting bunch of scaremongers. Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ Want to have instant messaging, and chat rooms, and discussion groups for your local users or business, you need dbabble! -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dbabble.htm ---- |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
... Bart wrote: It looks like the second Age of Sail is upon us. According to this author. The world reached "Peak Oil" in 2006 measured against real production numbers--not hypothetical predictions! The German-based Energy Watch Group I wouldn't believe anything these guys write Bart, they're a Liberal, Global Warming touting bunch of scaremongers. Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ Want to have instant messaging, and chat rooms, and discussion groups for your local users or business, you need dbabble! -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dbabble.htm ---- And, don't even get us started on the dreaded socialized medicine. Gods forbid we insure kids, whether they can afford it or not! (Oh, sorry.) -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Oct 25, 9:58 pm, Bart wrote:
It looks like the second Age of Sail is upon us. Oil's only 92 a drum..Just wait till it's 300. Joe |
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"Capt. JG" wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Bart wrote: It looks like the second Age of Sail is upon us. According to this author. The world reached "Peak Oil" in 2006 measured against real production numbers--not hypothetical predictions! The German-based Energy Watch Group I wouldn't believe anything these guys write Bart, they're a Liberal, Global Warming touting bunch of scaremongers. Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ Want to have instant messaging, and chat rooms, and discussion groups for your local users or business, you need dbabble! -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dbabble.htm ---- And, don't even get us started on the dreaded socialized medicine. Gods forbid we insure kids, whether they can afford it or not! (Oh, sorry.) Good God man! You must be some kind of Commie-Pinko. "I don't dislike women, but I do deny them my essence.", was that General Ripper? Cheers Marty |
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"Martin B" {remove{}and_everything_in_bet ween} wrote in
message ... "Capt. JG" wrote: "Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Bart wrote: It looks like the second Age of Sail is upon us. According to this author. The world reached "Peak Oil" in 2006 measured against real production numbers--not hypothetical predictions! The German-based Energy Watch Group I wouldn't believe anything these guys write Bart, they're a Liberal, Global Warming touting bunch of scaremongers. Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ Want to have instant messaging, and chat rooms, and discussion groups for your local users or business, you need dbabble! -- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dbabble.htm ---- And, don't even get us started on the dreaded socialized medicine. Gods forbid we insure kids, whether they can afford it or not! (Oh, sorry.) Good God man! You must be some kind of Commie-Pinko. "I don't dislike women, but I do deny them my essence.", was that General Ripper? Cheers Marty At least he was a sailor! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Oct 26, 12:46 pm, Joe wrote:
On Oct 25, 9:58 pm, Bart wrote: It looks like the second Age of Sail is upon us. Oil's only 92 a drum..Just wait till it's 300. Joe It may happen sooner than you think! |
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"Bart" wrote in message
oups.com... On Oct 26, 12:46 pm, Joe wrote: On Oct 25, 9:58 pm, Bart wrote: It looks like the second Age of Sail is upon us. Oil's only 92 a drum..Just wait till it's 300. Joe It may happen sooner than you think! One can only hope! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... " And, don't even get us started on the dreaded socialized medicine. Gods forbid we insure kids, whether they can afford it or not! (Oh, sorry.) And by ''we'', you mean? |
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Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... " And, don't even get us started on the dreaded socialized medicine. Gods forbid we insure kids, whether they can afford it or not! (Oh, sorry.) And by ''we'', you mean? Our corrupt society that thinks (and I use that term advisedly) $50B a month in Iraq is a better investment. |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... " And, don't even get us started on the dreaded socialized medicine. Gods forbid we insure kids, whether they can afford it or not! (Oh, sorry.) And by ''we'', you mean? Our corrupt society that thinks (and I use that term advisedly) $50B a month in Iraq is a better investment. And by ''our corrupt society'', you mean the right? |
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Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... " And, don't even get us started on the dreaded socialized medicine. Gods forbid we insure kids, whether they can afford it or not! (Oh, sorry.) And by ''we'', you mean? Our corrupt society that thinks (and I use that term advisedly) $50B a month in Iraq is a better investment. And by ''our corrupt society'', you mean the right? Not at all. Why would you think that? |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... " And, don't even get us started on the dreaded socialized medicine. Gods forbid we insure kids, whether they can afford it or not! (Oh, sorry.) And by ''we'', you mean? Our corrupt society that thinks (and I use that term advisedly) $50B a month in Iraq is a better investment. And by ''our corrupt society'', you mean the right? Not at all. Why would you think that? well then tell me, who exactly should be paying for these kids' insurance. |
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Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... " And, don't even get us started on the dreaded socialized medicine. Gods forbid we insure kids, whether they can afford it or not! (Oh, sorry.) And by ''we'', you mean? Our corrupt society that thinks (and I use that term advisedly) $50B a month in Iraq is a better investment. And by ''our corrupt society'', you mean the right? Not at all. Why would you think that? well then tell me, who exactly should be paying for these kids' insurance. Society as a whole. In the long run, it's less expensive, and it's certainly the morally correct thing to do. Why would a great society absolve itself of any responsibility for those who are in need. |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... " And, don't even get us started on the dreaded socialized medicine. Gods forbid we insure kids, whether they can afford it or not! (Oh, sorry.) And by ''we'', you mean? Our corrupt society that thinks (and I use that term advisedly) $50B a month in Iraq is a better investment. And by ''our corrupt society'', you mean the right? Not at all. Why would you think that? well then tell me, who exactly should be paying for these kids' insurance. Society as a whole. In the long run, it's less expensive, and it's certainly the morally correct thing to do. Why would a great society absolve itself of any responsibility for those who are in need. Why should I pay for anyone's kids, just because he couldn't keep his dick in his pants? Maybe you think that I should pay for your boat, too? Go **** yourself, |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... And by ''we'', you mean? Our corrupt society that thinks (and I use that term advisedly) $50B a month in Iraq is a better investment. And by ''our corrupt society'', you mean the right? Not at all. Why would you think that? well then tell me, who exactly should be paying for these kids' insurance. Society as a whole. In the long run, it's less expensive, and it's certainly the morally correct thing to do. Why would a great society absolve itself of any responsibility for those who are in need. You think ''we'' , ''society as a whole'', should be responsible for everyone's problems , like crack whore babies and kids whose dad ran away and/or is too lazy to work, etc. Then, wouldn't you also believe that ''we'', ''society as a whole'' are responsible for the whole worlds population, including those poor souls in Iraq? SBV |
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Randy wrote: Why should I pay for anyone's kids, just because he couldn't keep his dick in his pants? Maybe you think that I should pay for your boat, too? Go **** yourself, Same to you sockpuppet... PLONK |
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Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: You think ''we'' , ''society as a whole'', should be responsible for everyone's problems , like crack whore babies and kids whose dad ran away and/or is too lazy to work, etc. Then, wouldn't you also believe that ''we'', ''society as a whole'' are responsible for the whole worlds population, including those poor souls in Iraq? As best as we are able, yes. Imagine... let freedom ring. |
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"Vito" wrote:
But for the MD's corrupt union (AMA), medical care would be affordable. Well, let's see... How much of the health-care dollar spent by a U.S. citizen goes to pay MD's? Vito believes it's a lot. It's actually about 6%. .... Socialized versus free trade medicine? BS! It's a monopoly. When did you last see MDs or hospitals advertising *price* like say car dealers. Maybe that's why medical tourism is a booming business, doctors in Mexico & India will perform operations much much cheaper than here in the U.S. And you also have the option of choosing health care from other providers than MDs, if you're serious. The solution is not to have the government pay these exorbitant prices, it is to break up AMA and tar and feather all its policy makers. Yeah, those darn greedy doctors have seriously corrupted the gov't with all their lobbying dollars.... not like the lawyers & the pharm co's.... Hey Vito, if a clue comes up and tries to jump in your pocket, run away screaming! DSK |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: You think ''we'' , ''society as a whole'', should be responsible for everyone's problems , like crack whore babies and kids whose dad ran away and/or is too lazy to work, etc. Then, wouldn't you also believe that ''we'', ''society as a whole'' are responsible for the whole worlds population, including those poor souls in Iraq? As best as we are able, yes. Imagine... let freedom ring. yes George, imagine... |
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Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: You think ''we'' , ''society as a whole'', should be responsible for everyone's problems , like crack whore babies and kids whose dad ran away and/or is too lazy to work, etc. Then, wouldn't you also believe that ''we'', ''society as a whole'' are responsible for the whole worlds population, including those poor souls in Iraq? As best as we are able, yes. Imagine... let freedom ring. yes George, imagine... George Washington? |
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On Nov 17, 1:30 pm, wrote:
"Vito" wrote: But for the MD's corrupt union (AMA), medical care would be affordable. Well, let's see... How much of the health-care dollar spent by a U.S. citizen goes to pay MD's? Vito believes it's a lot. It's actually about 6%. .... Socialized versus free trade medicine? BS! It's a monopoly. When did you last see MDs or hospitals advertising *price* like say car dealers. Maybe that's why medical tourism is a booming business, doctors in Mexico & India will perform operations much much cheaper than here in the U.S. And you also have the option of choosing health care from other providers than MDs, if you're serious. The solution is not to have the government pay these exorbitant prices, it is to break up AMA and tar and feather all its policy makers. Yeah, those darn greedy doctors have seriously corrupted the gov't with all their lobbying dollars.... not like the lawyers & the pharm co's.... Hey Vito, if a clue comes up and tries to jump in your pocket, run away screaming! DSK We are back in Oregon as of yesterday but before flying north we went to see a doctor in Suva, Fiji for a complete physical. The cost, including a two day stay in waterfront hotel, was less than $500 US. If we were here for that same procedure it would have cost us... aaahhhh... one-hell-of-a-lot-more! The last time I saw a doctor in the U.S. (2003) I think I spent $45 just to walk in the door and then I had to wait for an hour just to say hello. After that, the money machine was ringing up for every question I asked. Blood tests were unaffordable without insurance and even then it was a push. With all that said, I must confess that we have spent a considerable amount of money to get to Fiji. New main sail, auto pilot, packing gland, drive shaft, exhaust riser and all the other crap that blows out on a long run in the Pacific. Still, it was a good experience to meet Dr. Ali in Suva who became our friend the minute we walked in the door. We look forward to seeing him again in April. Fair winds, Barb |
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It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my
wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. Scotty "ladysailor" wrote in message groups.com... We are back in Oregon as of yesterday but before flying north we went to see a doctor in Suva, Fiji for a complete physical. The cost, including a two day stay in waterfront hotel, was less than $500 US. If we were here for that same procedure it would have cost us... aaahhhh... one-hell-of-a-lot-more! The last time I saw a doctor in the U.S. (2003) I think I spent $45 just to walk in the door and then I had to wait for an hour just to say hello. After that, the money machine was ringing up for every question I asked. Blood tests were unaffordable without insurance and even then it was a push. With all that said, I must confess that we have spent a considerable amount of money to get to Fiji. New main sail, auto pilot, packing gland, drive shaft, exhaust riser and all the other crap that blows out on a long run in the Pacific. Still, it was a good experience to meet Dr. Ali in Suva who became our friend the minute we walked in the door. We look forward to seeing him again in April. Fair winds, Barb |
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Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. What about the responsible people who don't work or whose employers don't offer insurance? |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. What about the responsible people who don't work or whose employers don't offer insurance? They get their own ins. , or pay as they go. If they're responsible, like you wrote, they don't need to steal from the rest of us. SBV |
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:47:07 -0500, "Scotty" wrote this
crap: It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. Scotty, listen to me. Your wife's employer pays for the insurance. That's money that he could be paying your wife. Therefore it still comes out of her paycheck. Go Buckeyes! Big Ten Champions! Possible National Champions! I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message ... On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:47:07 -0500, "Scotty" wrote this crap: It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. Scotty, listen to me. Your wife's employer pays for the insurance. That's money that he could be paying your wife. Therefore it still comes out of her paycheck. yes, so? |
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In article ,
Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , Scotty Same.as.above@com wrote: It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. What about the responsible people who don't work or whose employers don't offer insurance? They get their own ins. , or pay as they go. If they're responsible, like you wrote, they don't need to steal from the rest of us. Ah, so someone who makes mimimum wage and has a sick child should just not worry about it. Got it. |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message Ah, so someone who makes mimimum wage and has a sick child should just not worry about it. Lame, very lame. |
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"Scotty" wrote in message
. .. "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message Ah, so someone who makes mimimum wage and has a sick child should just not worry about it. Lame, very lame. One hopes not due to lack of health coverate. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 22:50:14 -0500, "Scotty" wrote this
crap: "Bloody Horvath" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 09:47:07 -0500, "Scotty" wrote this crap: It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. Scotty, listen to me. Your wife's employer pays for the insurance. That's money that he could be paying your wife. Therefore it still comes out of her paycheck. yes, so? Duh! Must I spell it out for you? YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT! I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message ... crap: It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. Scotty, listen to me. Your wife's employer pays for the insurance. That's money that he could be paying your wife. Therefore it still comes out of her paycheck. yes, so? Duh! Must I spell it out for you? YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT! Double Duh! I don't pay a cent! Scotty |
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On Tue, 20 Nov 2007 00:06:51 -0500, "Scotty" wrote this
crap: Therefore it still comes out of her paycheck. yes, so? Duh! Must I spell it out for you? YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT! Double Duh! I don't pay a cent! Sure you do. It comes out of your wife's paycheck. By law, half of what your wife makes, belongs to you, dumbass. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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On Nov 18, 6:47 am, "Scotty" wrote:
It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. Scotty And your point is? Oh I get it, marry a responsible person who works : 0) Mike |
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"cruisin" wrote in message
... On Nov 18, 6:47 am, "Scotty" wrote: It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. Scotty And your point is? Oh I get it, marry a responsible person who works : 0) Mike So, what happened? :-} -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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On Nov 21, 2:43 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"cruisin" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 6:47 am, "Scotty" wrote: It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. Scotty And your point is? Oh I get it, marry a responsible person who works : 0) Mike So, what happened? :-} -- "j" ganz Still tryin' to figure that out, Jon! M |
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"cruisin" wrote in message
... On Nov 21, 2:43 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote: "cruisin" wrote in message ... On Nov 18, 6:47 am, "Scotty" wrote: It costs me nothing to see a Dr., I'm covered under my wife's insurance. Most responsible people that work have insurance. Scotty And your point is? Oh I get it, marry a responsible person who works : 0) Mike So, what happened? :-} -- "j" ganz Still tryin' to figure that out, Jon! M Heh... well, Happy T-day anyway! -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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