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Too many toys
At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your
ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I couldnt find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too. My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled, prop replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing. Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20 yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving trip (gotta take the younger kids too). Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ |
Too many toys
Frogwatch wrote:
At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I couldnt find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too. My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled, prop replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing. Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20 yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving trip (gotta take the younger kids too). Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ Aren't you the guy who buries this stuff in the long grass out in the backyard? I think you'd better get over the fact that others don't do as good a job as you...that's a moot point at the moment...hire someone to clean the bottom of your S-2 quarterly..it doesn't cst that much..I think we paid $50 last time we had it done...time is money and if you don't have time, then spend the money... If your daughter likes kayaks, then buy her one...you don't have time to build one for her...and make sure she takes care of it, because you don;'t have time to... Sell whatever is in your backyard that you have not touched in the past year...it's like old clothes..if you haven't used it, get rid of it... How often do you use the cabin in Wyoming? If you use it as a base cmp for your caving, then keep it but maintain it at a minimum..after all it is camping...take the canoe out there...you ahve a skiff and maybe soon a kayak in FL so you don;'t need a canoe there... You're like a person that goes to a banquet after he's already eaten at McDonald's... |
Too many toys
On Sep 24, 11:37 am, Frogwatch wrote:
At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I couldnt find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too. My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled, prop replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing. Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20 yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving trip (gotta take the younger kids too). Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ Right now, I believe that I can just maintain all this myself but at 51 yrs of age, I can see a time when I cannot. Even now, I dont like going under the S2 to de-foul like I used to all the time. In teh past, lifting the 8 hp kicker for the Tolman woulda been easy but not now and later........... I'd like to make my 17 yr old son do some of it but he needs supervision so much that I might as well do it myself. Besides, I dont know how to do most of this stuff so how can I tell him how to do it. The old Dodge Ram that I use to tow the Tolman has been eating batteries. For some reason, they wont stay charged so FINALLY, I took out all the fuses and battery and measured across the battery terminals. WHAT, 170 ohms? HOW? I put it all back together thinking I'd look it over more at work. While driving I looked down at the 1000 watt amp my son had put in it and noticed that it has no "OFF" switch the big ass power wires went right through the firewall and I thought, I bet that little **** wired it directly to the battery. Sure enough, it was. AAAAAAAGH, I spend all this time fixing stuff only to have someone take time to screw it up. |
Too many toys
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:37:23 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote: At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I couldnt find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too. My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled, prop replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing. Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20 yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving trip (gotta take the younger kids too). Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? Dump the vehicles. I finally had to do that. Was maintaining four vehicles that average 200,000 miles. Sold off the 76 Datsun truck (yeah I still had one with that name badge), Declared the "kids" officially off the dependent status so they could maintain the cars themselves or pay to have it done. Then sold off my wifes minivan. Now have two vehicles that average 5K miles with warranties. No car stuff for five years of so. Of course what helped the most was retiring. I may be able to catch up if I can stay off this computer. Hey, I scallop in St. Joes bay, but I'm curious, are there any scallop beds off of St Marks or east of St. George Sound. Do you ever hear anyone talk of scalloping over there. Frank OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ |
Too many toys
On Sep 24, 12:20 pm, Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 08:37:23 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I couldnt find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too. My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled, prop replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing. Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20 yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving trip (gotta take the younger kids too). Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? Dump the vehicles. I finally had to do that. Was maintaining four vehicles that average 200,000 miles. Sold off the 76 Datsun truck (yeah I still had one with that name badge), Declared the "kids" officially off the dependent status so they could maintain the cars themselves or pay to have it done. Then sold off my wifes minivan. Now have two vehicles that average 5K miles with warranties. No car stuff for five years of so. Of course what helped the most was retiring. I may be able to catch up if I can stay off this computer. Hey, I scallop in St. Joes bay, but I'm curious, are there any scallop beds off of St Marks or east of St. George Sound. Do you ever hear anyone talk of scalloping over there. Frank OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ Katy and Frank: For the past 10 yrs or so, scalloping has been better off St. Marks than in St. Joe bay. I only managed to go once this year but they were so plentiful that most people got their limit. Basically, you go about 2-3 miles east of the lighthouse to near the rocky areas shown on the charts and you find em in 2-9' of water. Sometimes people find scallops in shallow water near St Theresa. The WY cabin is a recent addition and will be our place in Summer to escape the FL heat. We lived out there when first married 27 yrs ago so it has strong emotional ties for us. Right now, you cannot find any labor in WY the employment there is so good so I (and my son I hope) will have to work on it next summer but themn I hope to find someone to do it. My Nissan will be moved to WY (4wd). My son drives the old Dodge Ram cuz it is all he is insured on. My wife drives the family car ( a newer Toyota) that I wouldnt bother looking under the hood cuz I think it was made with alien technology from Area 51. I forgot to mention the sailboard. It belongs to my 20 yr old daughter and she keeps trying to take it back to UNF in Jacksonville with her but it won't go on her car but I did manage to fabricate a hanging system to hang it from the rafter of the carport so it doesnt get lost in the grass. I agree with Katy, we really need to get somebody to dive and scrape the boat but growing up sorta "financially challenged" spending money on something so frivolous is alien to both me and my wife. We really have to get somebody else to do it, I agree. |
Too many toys
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ps.com... At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I couldnt find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too. My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled, prop replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing. Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20 yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving trip (gotta take the younger kids too). Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ Your life is focused on crap and maintaining the crap. Those "toys" are no longer tools that are an extension of yourself but rather a time consuming form of bondage. What is it that is important in your life? What is it that you want to do? Are you using all this fixing up old stuff to avoid actually doing something? Is fighting life on too many fronts diluting your efforts/clouding your vision? The stuff you have is merely an end product of your mental organization and executive function. Take a long hard honest look at yourself and your priorities. Once you have that straight everything else is simple. Learn to trust others, learn to live with their mistakes and learn to let go. |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:58:49 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote: Katy and Frank: For the past 10 yrs or so, scalloping has been better off St. Marks than in St. Joe bay. I only managed to go once this year but they were so plentiful that most people got their limit. Basically, you go about 2-3 miles east of the lighthouse to near the rocky areas shown on the charts and you find em in 2-9' of water. Sometimes people find scallops in shallow water near St Theresa. Good to know. I think I may come over there next season if for no other reason to get a change of scenery. I did well in St. Joe's this year though, the couple of times I got to go. Frank |
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Frogwatch wrote:
At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. Yep. It is the curse of prosperity. You simply cannot have everything; and even if you could, you wouldn't have a place to put it. believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Part of your problem is partly that you built your homebuilt boats out of wood. It's great stuff, but it is biodegradable. Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Yep. My predicition is that it will be either your spine or your kidneys. .... Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? Obvious- Give up the "stuff" you like the least. The stuff that has gotten in the worst shape already is a prime candidate for culling out, after all it got that way because you have cared for it less. Frank Boettcher wrote: Dump the vehicles. I finally had to do that. Was maintaining four vehicles that average 200,000 miles. Might not be too bad, depending on what they are and how they've been cared for. Now have two vehicles that average 5K miles with warranties. No car stuff for five years of so. You hope. I lost my enthusiasm for maintaining old cars when I realized that 1- I would have to buy an increasing number of specialized expensive tools useless for any other jobs 2- cars are easily replaceable and cheap; the newer they are, the cheaper and more reliable they are.... 3- in addition to #2 newer cars are considerably safer 4- I make more money working than an auto mechanic, so unless I enjoy auto maintenance (which I did back my sports-car days but not for years since) there is an actual cash loss for every minute I expend on it. OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ Go and hit yourself over the head. Unless she is interested in BUILDING a boat, go buy her one. You can buy a better kayak than you can build anyway (assuming you know the basic characteristics you want in such craft), and your time is more valuable than that of a kayak-builder (see #4 above). Frogwatch wrote: The WY cabin is a recent addition and will be our place in Summer to escape the FL heat. We lived out there when first married 27 yrs ago so it has strong emotional ties for us. Sounds good. I recommend a long retreat up there. You will return envigorated and will be able to assess the toys you haven't seen months with fresh eyes. I agree with Katy, we really need to get somebody to dive and scrape the boat but growing up sorta "financially challenged" spending money on something so frivolous is alien to both me and my wife. We really have to get somebody else to do it, I agree. But if it is necessary to the function of the vessel (and it is), then it isn't frivolous. And while I agree whole-heartedly with you that the only way to ensure any job is done right is to do it yourself, you have to learn to either delegate or retreat to a log cabin by a pond and limit yourself to sailing small simple craft. Fresh Breezes- Doug King |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:05:27 -0700, wrote this
crap: Yep. It is the curse of prosperity. You simply cannot have everything; and even if you could, you wouldn't have a place to put it. That's why you need a safety deposit box. I've got more there than everything he owns. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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On Sep 24, 6:05 pm, wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. Yep. It is the curse of prosperity. You simply cannot have everything; and even if you could, you wouldn't have a place to put it. believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Part of your problem is partly that you built your homebuilt boats out of wood. It's great stuff, but it is biodegradable. Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Yep. My predicition is that it will be either your spine or your kidneys. .... Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? Obvious- Give up the "stuff" you like the least. The stuff that has gotten in the worst shape already is a prime candidate for culling out, after all it got that way because you have cared for it less. Frank Boettcher wrote: Dump the vehicles. I finally had to do that. Was maintaining four vehicles that average 200,000 miles. Might not be too bad, depending on what they are and how they've been cared for. Now have two vehicles that average 5K miles with warranties. No car stuff for five years of so. You hope. I lost my enthusiasm for maintaining old cars when I realized that 1- I would have to buy an increasing number of specialized expensive tools useless for any other jobs 2- cars are easily replaceable and cheap; the newer they are, the cheaper and more reliable they are.... 3- in addition to #2 newer cars are considerably safer 4- I make more money working than an auto mechanic, so unless I enjoy auto maintenance (which I did back my sports-car days but not for years since) there is an actual cash loss for every minute I expend on it. OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ Go and hit yourself over the head. Unless she is interested in BUILDING a boat, go buy her one. You can buy a better kayak than you can build anyway (assuming you know the basic characteristics you want in such craft), and your time is more valuable than that of a kayak-builder (see #4 above). Frogwatch wrote: The WY cabin is a recent addition and will be our place in Summer to escape the FL heat. We lived out there when first married 27 yrs ago so it has strong emotional ties for us. Sounds good. I recommend a long retreat up there. You will return envigorated and will be able to assess the toys you haven't seen months with fresh eyes. I agree with Katy, we really need to get somebody to dive and scrape the boat but growing up sorta "financially challenged" spending money on something so frivolous is alien to both me and my wife. We really have to get somebody else to do it, I agree. But if it is necessary to the function of the vessel (and it is), then it isn't frivolous. And while I agree whole-heartedly with you that the only way to ensure any job is done right is to do it yourself, you have to learn to either delegate or retreat to a log cabin by a pond and limit yourself to sailing small simple craft. Fresh Breezes- Doug King The wooden boats have not given too much trouble since I learned to saturate the wood with epoxy. Basically, building the boats is sorta therapy. I suffer (or more like I benefit from) from an amazingly short attention span so I am unable to deal with ANY passive entertainment (except reading) meaning I have not been to a movie, concert or even watched TV for about 3 years. This means LOTS of free time that would be spent doing that stuff that I spend building the boat and working on my old truck, etc. Of course, you can imagine I am ready to jump overboard after a few hours of a long sailing passage (yup, same horizon, 10 minutes later, no change, 10 minutes later... ad infinitum). When I read about people who go off on long sailing trips, I wonder if there is something wrong with me or something wrong with them cuz I'd go nuts after a few days. For Frank: I am amazed at how clear the water is off of St. Marks, as clear at St. Joe in spite of the salt marshes and weird sea life like I remember St. Joe had many years ago. Unfortunately, I can no longer snorkel cuz I cannot see under water. I keep thinking I will buy a pair of prescription goggles but havent done it yet. |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 09:58:49 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote: The WY cabin is a recent addition and will be our place in Summer to escape the FL heat. Last time I was in Wyoming in the summer it was about 105F, and there was no ocean to cool off in, and hardly any shade either. I asked the cowboy running the KOA if there was shade on the sites. He said, "Sure pardner." , looked at his watch, "but you'll have to wait a few hours." Sundown. --Vic |
Too many toys
"Lloyd Bonafide" wrote in message ... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ps.com... At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I couldnt find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too. My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled, prop replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing. Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20 yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving trip (gotta take the younger kids too). Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ Your life is focused on crap and maintaining the crap. Those "toys" are no longer tools that are an extension of yourself but rather a time consuming form of bondage. What is it that is important in your life? What is it that you want to do? Are you using all this fixing up old stuff to avoid actually doing something? Is fighting life on too many fronts diluting your efforts/clouding your vision? The stuff you have is merely an end product of your mental organization and executive function. Take a long hard honest look at yourself and your priorities. Once you have that straight everything else is simple. Learn to trust others, learn to live with their mistakes and learn to let go. Spot on. Simple is better. Wilbur Hubbard |
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What, no motorcycles?
Scotty "Frogwatch" wrote in message ps.com... At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I couldnt find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too. My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled, prop replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing. Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20 yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving trip (gotta take the younger kids too). Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ |
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On Sep 24, 7:58 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
What, no motorcycles? Scotty"Frogwatch" wrote in message ps.com... At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I couldnt find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too. My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled, prop replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing. Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20 yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving trip (gotta take the younger kids too). Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ Down on the plains, Wy is hot and boring. Up in the Mts, its cool with aspens, lodgepole pines, streams, etc. They do have some big man made lakes. Jackson lake really might be nice but is about 250 miles from our place near Casper. |
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On Sep 24, 8:21 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 24, 7:58 pm, "Scotty" wrote: What, no motorcycles? Scotty"Frogwatch" wrote in message ups.com... At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I believe this has happed to me. With two small homebuilt sailboats and a 28' S2 sailboat, a homebuilt dinghy, a 20' Tolman Skiff (homeebuilt) and a canoe, a 100 yr old log cabin in Wyoming that needs rebuilding, an old Nissan truck with 309,000 miles on it that I love and a need to maintain camping and caving equipment (did I mention a 20 yr old Dodge Ram I inherited), I have no time to use any of it. Yesterday, we wanted to go sailing but after I had de-fouled the prop by going overboard in the canal, the engine overheated. Dang, I knew I shoulda had the bottom painted thsi year (its been 4 years, a long time in N. FL.). Engine intake was clogged with fouling and I couldnt find a piece of stiff wire long enough to run through the intake from inside (I wasnt going back in that nasty water again). So, sometime this week, I gotta take time offa work and go to the coast and do this, oughta replace the impeller at same time, scrape barnacles too. My prop is just about shot from corrosion and dings so I'll haveta sail her about 40 miles sometime in early Oct to have her hauled, prop replaced, I will paint the bottom, and replace cutless bearing. Somehow this week, I gotta set up caving gear for 5 people cuz my 20 yr old daughter has decided she wants to take her new BF on a caving trip (gotta take the younger kids too). Somehow, I think that I can do all of this if I optimally use each evening and weekend to do stuff but something has to give. Money has not been an issue because I do all the work myself cuz I dont like the work anybody esle does and I have built 4 of my boats and my truck was paid off 16 yrs ago. What should I give up to make room for doing stuff? OH, I have this notion of building a kayak for my 11 yr old daughter cuz she likes kayaks............ Down on the plains, Wy is hot and boring. Up in the Mts, its cool with aspens, lodgepole pines, streams, etc. They do have some big man made lakes. Jackson lake really might be nice but is about 250 miles from our place near Casper. I s'pose I never really liked motorcycles. Had to give up mountain biking, arthritis in wrists. |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:58:28 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this
crap: What, no motorcycles? He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is quite impressive. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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On Sep 24, 10:00 pm, Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:58:28 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this crap: What, no motorcycles? He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is quite impressive. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. I'll admit, I am too wussy for motorcycles. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message oups.com... Basically, building the boats is sorta therapy. I suffer (or more like I benefit from) from an amazingly short attention span so I am unable to deal with ANY passive entertainment (except reading) meaning I have not been to a movie, concert or even watched TV for about 3 years. Is this an attention span problem or is it because passive entertainment basically sucks? Perhaps you are the type of person that doesn't need to be entertained. This means LOTS of free time that would be spent doing that stuff that I spend building the boat and working on my old truck, etc. Actually exercising the mind and hands. Of course, you can imagine I am ready to jump overboard after a few hours of a long sailing passage (yup, same horizon, 10 minutes later, no change, 10 minutes later... ad infinitum). I bet you loved being an employee. When I read about people who go off on long sailing trips, I wonder if there is something wrong with me or something wrong with them cuz I'd go nuts after a few days. Nothing wrong with you. For most people sailing is an escape. For you it is imprisonment. There's nothing wrong with you. You fit the profile of a good engineer/scientist. Expand your horizons! |
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On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:29:43 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote this crap: He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is quite impressive. I'll admit, I am too wussy for motorcycles. You should hook up with Jon-boy. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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At some point, you exceed the optimum number of "toys" so that
your ability to maintain them begins to exceed your time to use them. I sold my "hobby" car years ago and limit the amount of golf I now play. Leaves more free time in the summer for sailing. I wouldn't have time to mess with the car and maintain the boat. When the boat gets hauled in November I start messing with trains. So now there are only 2 seasons of "stuff" |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
oups.com... On Sep 24, 10:00 pm, Bloody Horvath wrote: On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:58:28 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this crap: What, no motorcycles? He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is quite impressive. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. I'll admit, I am too wussy for motorcycles. Better watch out. Horvath is going to want to meet you. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:58:28 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this crap: What, no motorcycles? He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is quite impressive. do you have a 1948, 45? |
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On Sep 25, 10:56 am, "Scotty" wrote:
"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:58:28 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this crap: What, no motorcycles? He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is quite impressive. do you have a 1948, 45? Being the ultimate geek would have been a problem a generation ago when they were held in low esteem but geeks have been fairly successful today. In my case, I was able to get my attention span all the way up to 20 minutes in grad school (physics). You know those classes that are often taught at conferences where they cram a semesters worth of stuff into 8 hours, I dont even consider them. My being unable to watch movies makes my wife crazy, especially when I get bored 10 minutes before the end and get up and walk away. I am unable to read facial expressions or "the look in someones eyes" and until I was 20 did not even know that such existed and had to train myself to look at peoples eyes but still dont see anything. At a cocktail party someone can introduce themselves and 5 minutes later could introduce themselves as someone different and I would be clueless. This has had some embarassing consequences. Fortunately, my two older kids did not inherit this. Unfortunately, my 11 yr old daughter did. She obsesses over Google Earth and gets so obsessed with certain topics she makes you crazy talking about them (right now it is caves). A male can get away with this because if he is independent enough he can simply go his own way but I fear that life will be very tough for a girl like this. She has no idea that other little girls think she is weird and as her few friends get older and more interested in normal girl stuff they will abandon her and it will break my heart. When I see her staring at maps, I feel happy that she is like me but then I realize her fate to not have the social network that girls need. She is already alien to my wife who doesnt understand her. My wife couldnt find her way out of a paper bag but we let little Katie have the map and be navigator on trips. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
The wooden boats have not given too much trouble since I learned to saturate the wood with epoxy. Extends the life of the wood, but not forever. "Saturation" even with thinned epoxy is only about 1 mm so it's really just a bonded coating. It also depends on the wood. I built a small dinghy out of cheap-o luaun plywood, saturated it with epoxy (a silly thing to do, since the cost of the epoxy would have justified using more expensive wood; but I was in a hurry and already had the epoxy anyway). It lasted two years, at the end of which it was sprouting quarter-sized punk spots. Basically, building the boats is sorta therapy. It certainly can be. I've enjoyed the boatbuilding projects I've done; likewise with the boat-improvement projects. The question is, what is more rewarding way to invest your time: building a boat vs going kayaking with your daughter. Working on your old truck vs. going caving. Etc etc etc. Time is the most valuable thing you have. ... Of course, you can imagine I am ready to jump overboard after a few hours of a long sailing passage (yup, same horizon, 10 minutes later, no change, 10 minutes later... ad infinitum). When I read about people who go off on long sailing trips, I wonder if there is something wrong with me or something wrong with them cuz I'd go nuts after a few days. A long ocean-crossing passage *is* boring. The only reason to do it is because you want to get yourself & your boat to the other side. If such a trip becomes exciting, it's a sign of poor planning. OTOH shorter trips along interesting shores, into various ports, exploring waterways, etc etc, can be lots of fun. Not really crash- bang-boom exciting (or at least, shouldn't be IMHO), and the horizon doesn't change much during that 10 minute span. And it's an excellent justification for owning a good boat. DSK |
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A.D.D.
"Frogwatch" wrote in message oups.com.. .. On Sep 25, 10:56 am, "Scotty" wrote: "Bloody Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:58:28 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this crap: What, no motorcycles? He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is quite impressive. do you have a 1948, 45? Being the ultimate geek would have been a problem a generation ago when they were held in low esteem but geeks have been fairly successful today. In my case, I was able to get my attention span all the way up to 20 minutes in grad school (physics). You know those classes that are often taught at conferences where they cram a semesters worth of stuff into 8 hours, I dont even consider them. My being unable to watch movies makes my wife crazy, especially when I get bored 10 minutes before the end and get up and walk away. I am unable to read facial expressions or "the look in someones eyes" and until I was 20 did not even know that such existed and had to train myself to look at peoples eyes but still dont see anything. At a cocktail party someone can introduce themselves and 5 minutes later could introduce themselves as someone different and I would be clueless. This has had some embarassing consequences. Fortunately, my two older kids did not inherit this. Unfortunately, my 11 yr old daughter did. She obsesses over Google Earth and gets so obsessed with certain topics she makes you crazy talking about them (right now it is caves). A male can get away with this because if he is independent enough he can simply go his own way but I fear that life will be very tough for a girl like this. She has no idea that other little girls think she is weird and as her few friends get older and more interested in normal girl stuff they will abandon her and it will break my heart. When I see her staring at maps, I feel happy that she is like me but then I realize her fate to not have the social network that girls need. She is already alien to my wife who doesnt understand her. My wife couldnt find her way out of a paper bag but we let little Katie have the map and be navigator on trips. |
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"Scotty" wrote in message . .. A.D.D. Nope, it's prosopagnosia. Adult ADD manifests itself: http://www.helpguide.org/mental/adhd...t_symptoms.htm |
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:56:21 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this
crap: He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is quite impressive. do you have a 1948, 45? Sure I've got a 45. I shoot it often. I hand load 230 grain ball ammo, but I purchase the hollow points. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. |
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Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:56:21 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this crap: He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is quite impressive. do you have a 1948, 45? Sure I've got a 45. I shoot it often. I hand load 230 grain ball ammo, but I purchase the hollow points. I'm Horvath and I approve of this post. He has to...he lieves on the eastern side of Michigan....if you're not eprsonally armed, you're dead... |
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On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 10:05:33 -0700, Frogwatch
wrote: On Sep 25, 10:56 am, "Scotty" wrote: "Bloody Horvath" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 19:58:28 -0400, "Scotty" wrote this crap: What, no motorcycles? He's too wussy for motorcycles. My collection of vintage Harleys is quite impressive. do you have a 1948, 45? Being the ultimate geek would have been a problem a generation ago when they were held in low esteem but geeks have been fairly successful today. In my case, I was able to get my attention span all the way up to 20 minutes in grad school (physics). You know those classes that are often taught at conferences where they cram a semesters worth of stuff into 8 hours, I dont even consider them. My being unable to watch movies makes my wife crazy, especially when I get bored 10 minutes before the end and get up and walk away. I am unable to read facial expressions or "the look in someones eyes" and until I was 20 did not even know that such existed and had to train myself to look at peoples eyes but still dont see anything. At a cocktail party someone can introduce themselves and 5 minutes later could introduce themselves as someone different and I would be clueless. This has had some embarassing consequences. Fortunately, my two older kids did not inherit this. Unfortunately, my 11 yr old daughter did. She obsesses over Google Earth and gets so obsessed with certain topics she makes you crazy talking about them (right now it is caves). A male can get away with this because if he is independent enough he can simply go his own way but I fear that life will be very tough for a girl like this. She has no idea that other little girls think she is weird and as her few friends get older and more interested in normal girl stuff they will abandon her and it will break my heart. When I see her staring at maps, I feel happy that she is like me but then I realize her fate to not have the social network that girls need. She is already alien to my wife who doesnt understand her. My wife couldnt find her way out of a paper bag but we let little Katie have the map and be navigator on trips. Autism. Mark E. Williams |
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Being the ultimate geek would have been a problem a generation ago when they were held in low esteem but geeks have been fairly successful today. In my case, I was able to get my attention span all the way up to 20 minutes in grad school (physics). You know those classes that are often taught at conferences where they cram a semesters worth of stuff into 8 hours, I dont even consider them. My being unable to watch movies makes my wife crazy, especially when I get bored 10 minutes before the end and get up and walk away. I am unable to read facial expressions or "the look in someones eyes" and until I was 20 did not even know that such existed and had to train myself to look at peoples eyes but still dont see anything. At a cocktail party someone can introduce themselves and 5 minutes later could introduce themselves as someone different and I would be clueless. This has had some embarassing consequences. Fortunately, my two older kids did not inherit this. Unfortunately, my 11 yr old daughter did. She obsesses over Google Earth and gets so obsessed with certain topics she makes you crazy talking about them (right now it is caves). A male can get away with this because if he is independent enough he can simply go his own way but I fear that life will be very tough for a girl like this. She has no idea that other little girls think she is weird and as her few friends get older and more interested in normal girl stuff they will abandon her and it will break my heart. When I see her staring at maps, I feel happy that she is like me but then I realize her fate to not have the social network that girls need. She is already alien to my wife who doesnt understand her. My wife couldnt find her way out of a paper bag but we let little Katie have the map and be navigator on trips. Stop sterotyping females, fiirst of all...not all females fit in your little scenario...my daughter is an engineer,,she has no use for girly-girl "networking" or whatever...one granddughtr is like her, the other very "girly girl" with tons of female friends that all stab each other in the back (behind each others backs)...make yourself sit through the movie "Mean Girls" and then readjust your thinking about what you want for your daughter...stir her into the science clubs at school...she'll probably have boys for her best friends...that's not a bad thing...she probably has an IQ above and beyond your other two girls and your wife... |
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On Sep 26, 9:31 am, katy wrote:
Being the ultimate geek would have been a problem a generation ago when they were held in low esteem but geeks have been fairly successful today. In my case, I was able to get my attention span all the way up to 20 minutes in grad school (physics). You know those classes that are often taught at conferences where they cram a semesters worth of stuff into 8 hours, I dont even consider them. My being unable to watch movies makes my wife crazy, especially when I get bored 10 minutes before the end and get up and walk away. I am unable to read facial expressions or "the look in someones eyes" and until I was 20 did not even know that such existed and had to train myself to look at peoples eyes but still dont see anything. At a cocktail party someone can introduce themselves and 5 minutes later could introduce themselves as someone different and I would be clueless. This has had some embarassing consequences. Fortunately, my two older kids did not inherit this. Unfortunately, my 11 yr old daughter did. She obsesses over Google Earth and gets so obsessed with certain topics she makes you crazy talking about them (right now it is caves). A male can get away with this because if he is independent enough he can simply go his own way but I fear that life will be very tough for a girl like this. She has no idea that other little girls think she is weird and as her few friends get older and more interested in normal girl stuff they will abandon her and it will break my heart. When I see her staring at maps, I feel happy that she is like me but then I realize her fate to not have the social network that girls need. She is already alien to my wife who doesnt understand her. My wife couldnt find her way out of a paper bag but we let little Katie have the map and be navigator on trips. Stop sterotyping females, fiirst of all...not all females fit in your little scenario...my daughter is an engineer,,she has no use for girly-girl "networking" or whatever...one granddughtr is like her, the other very "girly girl" with tons of female friends that all stab each other in the back (behind each others backs)...make yourself sit through the movie "Mean Girls" and then readjust your thinking about what you want for your daughter...stir her into the science clubs at school...she'll probably have boys for her best friends...that's not a bad thing...she probably has an IQ above and beyond your other two girls and your wife... Took y'alls advice and am letting a shop work on my old truck, they better not screw it up. Should I allow somebody else to do the bottom paint and new prop on the S2? Once I allowed somebody else to bottom paint her and it all peeled off in 6 months. I get about 3 years out of a good paint job I do myself. Am gonna have to pay someone else to fix the kicker on the Tolman, I just cannot figger out the recoil starter. About kids: Always knew my 20 yr old daughter was smart AND socially well adjusted, maybe too much so cuz I think she is having too much fun at school but she is just being young. She has decided to major in Biology specializing in biochem. Told me last week that she is "enjoying organic chemistry". Then in a move sure to make me happy, she has taken up sailing and WANTS to take her new bf caving. Am obviously a proud father. My 17 yr old son is a puzzle to me cuz I think he has normal 17 yr old boy interests, cars, girls, and being cool. Being cool was not an option for me at that age so we clearly do not understand each other. No interest in Sci or tech unless it seems cool and very much a people person. Weird, weird, weird and drives me nuts. He says he hates sailing and doesnt even want to drive the Tolman. Not sure what to do with him. 11 yr old Katie is in her own world. She rescued a "snake" from the other kids at school and then spent the afternoon trying to convince them that it was really a "legless lizard" (I think she is right). When I got home she was playing with a Praying mantis she had found trying to feed it Love Bugs. Her little friend came over (and she is a girly girl) telling Katie she isnt allowed to climb trees at home so she comes over to see Katie who is allowed to do so (lawsuit coming I am sure). Fortunately, this friend is a good influence convincing Katie to wash the mud off herself before going to a movie. It is normal for a daddy to worry about his little girl. I wish I was young enough to have more kids. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 26, 9:31 am, katy wrote: Being the ultimate geek would have been a problem a generation ago when they were held in low esteem but geeks have been fairly successful today. In my case, I was able to get my attention span all the way up to 20 minutes in grad school (physics). You know those classes that are often taught at conferences where they cram a semesters worth of stuff into 8 hours, I dont even consider them. My being unable to watch movies makes my wife crazy, especially when I get bored 10 minutes before the end and get up and walk away. I am unable to read facial expressions or "the look in someones eyes" and until I was 20 did not even know that such existed and had to train myself to look at peoples eyes but still dont see anything. At a cocktail party someone can introduce themselves and 5 minutes later could introduce themselves as someone different and I would be clueless. This has had some embarassing consequences. Fortunately, my two older kids did not inherit this. Unfortunately, my 11 yr old daughter did. She obsesses over Google Earth and gets so obsessed with certain topics she makes you crazy talking about them (right now it is caves). A male can get away with this because if he is independent enough he can simply go his own way but I fear that life will be very tough for a girl like this. She has no idea that other little girls think she is weird and as her few friends get older and more interested in normal girl stuff they will abandon her and it will break my heart. When I see her staring at maps, I feel happy that she is like me but then I realize her fate to not have the social network that girls need. She is already alien to my wife who doesnt understand her. My wife couldnt find her way out of a paper bag but we let little Katie have the map and be navigator on trips. Stop sterotyping females, fiirst of all...not all females fit in your little scenario...my daughter is an engineer,,she has no use for girly-girl "networking" or whatever...one granddughtr is like her, the other very "girly girl" with tons of female friends that all stab each other in the back (behind each others backs)...make yourself sit through the movie "Mean Girls" and then readjust your thinking about what you want for your daughter...stir her into the science clubs at school...she'll probably have boys for her best friends...that's not a bad thing...she probably has an IQ above and beyond your other two girls and your wife... Took y'alls advice and am letting a shop work on my old truck, they better not screw it up. Should I allow somebody else to do the bottom paint and new prop on the S2? Once I allowed somebody else to bottom paint her and it all peeled off in 6 months. I get about 3 years out of a good paint job I do myself. Am gonna have to pay someone else to fix the kicker on the Tolman, I just cannot figger out the recoil starter. About kids: Always knew my 20 yr old daughter was smart AND socially well adjusted, maybe too much so cuz I think she is having too much fun at school but she is just being young. She has decided to major in Biology specializing in biochem. Told me last week that she is "enjoying organic chemistry". Then in a move sure to make me happy, she has taken up sailing and WANTS to take her new bf caving. Am obviously a proud father. My 17 yr old son is a puzzle to me cuz I think he has normal 17 yr old boy interests, cars, girls, and being cool. Being cool was not an option for me at that age so we clearly do not understand each other. No interest in Sci or tech unless it seems cool and very much a people person. Weird, weird, weird and drives me nuts. He says he hates sailing and doesnt even want to drive the Tolman. Not sure what to do with him. 11 yr old Katie is in her own world. She rescued a "snake" from the other kids at school and then spent the afternoon trying to convince them that it was really a "legless lizard" (I think she is right). When I got home she was playing with a Praying mantis she had found trying to feed it Love Bugs. Her little friend came over (and she is a girly girl) telling Katie she isnt allowed to climb trees at home so she comes over to see Katie who is allowed to do so (lawsuit coming I am sure). Fortunately, this friend is a good influence convincing Katie to wash the mud off herself before going to a movie. It is normal for a daddy to worry about his little girl. I wish I was young enough to have more kids. What in heck kind of parents forbid an 11 year old, either sex, to climb trees? The kid will not only go out an dclimb trees, put will probably try to climb the biggest one in the neighborhood...as far as your son is concerned, don't worry about him...expecting kids to be clones of you is unrealistic...we raised 5 kids, 4 boys and 1 girl...each is different than the other and each is different than their parents...some share our interests, some do not...that's life...it makes for a much more interesting family... |
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On Sep 26, 2:32 pm, katy wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 26, 9:31 am, katy wrote: Being the ultimate geek would have been a problem a generation ago when they were held in low esteem but geeks have been fairly successful today. In my case, I was able to get my attention span all the way up to 20 minutes in grad school (physics). You know those classes that are often taught at conferences where they cram a semesters worth of stuff into 8 hours, I dont even consider them. My being unable to watch movies makes my wife crazy, especially when I get bored 10 minutes before the end and get up and walk away. I am unable to read facial expressions or "the look in someones eyes" and until I was 20 did not even know that such existed and had to train myself to look at peoples eyes but still dont see anything. At a cocktail party someone can introduce themselves and 5 minutes later could introduce themselves as someone different and I would be clueless. This has had some embarassing consequences. Fortunately, my two older kids did not inherit this. Unfortunately, my 11 yr old daughter did. She obsesses over Google Earth and gets so obsessed with certain topics she makes you crazy talking about them (right now it is caves). A male can get away with this because if he is independent enough he can simply go his own way but I fear that life will be very tough for a girl like this. She has no idea that other little girls think she is weird and as her few friends get older and more interested in normal girl stuff they will abandon her and it will break my heart. When I see her staring at maps, I feel happy that she is like me but then I realize her fate to not have the social network that girls need. She is already alien to my wife who doesnt understand her. My wife couldnt find her way out of a paper bag but we let little Katie have the map and be navigator on trips. Stop sterotyping females, fiirst of all...not all females fit in your little scenario...my daughter is an engineer,,she has no use for girly-girl "networking" or whatever...one granddughtr is like her, the other very "girly girl" with tons of female friends that all stab each other in the back (behind each others backs)...make yourself sit through the movie "Mean Girls" and then readjust your thinking about what you want for your daughter...stir her into the science clubs at school...she'll probably have boys for her best friends...that's not a bad thing...she probably has an IQ above and beyond your other two girls and your wife... Took y'alls advice and am letting a shop work on my old truck, they better not screw it up. Should I allow somebody else to do the bottom paint and new prop on the S2? Once I allowed somebody else to bottom paint her and it all peeled off in 6 months. I get about 3 years out of a good paint job I do myself. Am gonna have to pay someone else to fix the kicker on the Tolman, I just cannot figger out the recoil starter. About kids: Always knew my 20 yr old daughter was smart AND socially well adjusted, maybe too much so cuz I think she is having too much fun at school but she is just being young. She has decided to major in Biology specializing in biochem. Told me last week that she is "enjoying organic chemistry". Then in a move sure to make me happy, she has taken up sailing and WANTS to take her new bf caving. Am obviously a proud father. My 17 yr old son is a puzzle to me cuz I think he has normal 17 yr old boy interests, cars, girls, and being cool. Being cool was not an option for me at that age so we clearly do not understand each other. No interest in Sci or tech unless it seems cool and very much a people person. Weird, weird, weird and drives me nuts. He says he hates sailing and doesnt even want to drive the Tolman. Not sure what to do with him. 11 yr old Katie is in her own world. She rescued a "snake" from the other kids at school and then spent the afternoon trying to convince them that it was really a "legless lizard" (I think she is right). When I got home she was playing with a Praying mantis she had found trying to feed it Love Bugs. Her little friend came over (and she is a girly girl) telling Katie she isnt allowed to climb trees at home so she comes over to see Katie who is allowed to do so (lawsuit coming I am sure). Fortunately, this friend is a good influence convincing Katie to wash the mud off herself before going to a movie. It is normal for a daddy to worry about his little girl. I wish I was young enough to have more kids. What in heck kind of parents forbid an 11 year old, either sex, to climb trees? The kid will not only go out an dclimb trees, put will probably try to climb the biggest one in the neighborhood...as far as your son is concerned, don't worry about him...expecting kids to be clones of you is unrealistic...we raised 5 kids, 4 boys and 1 girl...each is different than the other and each is different than their parents...some share our interests, some do not...that's life...it makes for a much more interesting family... Katy: You'd be amazed at what some parents think these days. Six months ago, when we had 8 little girls here for something they were all up in the big Live Oak tree having a ball. One dropped from a limb about 3' and slightly twisted her ankle I told her parents at the end of the night and now they will not allow her to visit because we allow them to do "dangerous things". Another time a little boy was here playing and a single fire ant bit him on his privates and you'd have thought we'd castrated him. He had no reaction that we could tell. His parents were so weird about playing outside that we decided he should not visit anymore. Another time the kids found a turtle and the parents of one little girl was shocked that we didnt follow em around with disinfectant for their hands being afraid of Salmonella. |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
ups.com... not visit anymore. Another time the kids found a turtle and the parents of one little girl was shocked that we didnt follow em around with disinfectant for their hands being afraid of Salmonella. They were right. Can you imagine what would have happened if the little girl had been playing with a salmon??? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Frogwatch" wrote in message ups.com... ". Another time a little boy was here playing and a single fire ant bit him on his privates that's what he gets for trying to screw an ant. |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Sep 26, 2:32 pm, katy wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Sep 26, 9:31 am, katy wrote: Being the ultimate geek would have been a problem a generation ago when they were held in low esteem but geeks have been fairly successful today. In my case, I was able to get my attention span all the way up to 20 minutes in grad school (physics). You know those classes that are often taught at conferences where they cram a semesters worth of stuff into 8 hours, I dont even consider them. My being unable to watch movies makes my wife crazy, especially when I get bored 10 minutes before the end and get up and walk away. I am unable to read facial expressions or "the look in someones eyes" and until I was 20 did not even know that such existed and had to train myself to look at peoples eyes but still dont see anything. At a cocktail party someone can introduce themselves and 5 minutes later could introduce themselves as someone different and I would be clueless. This has had some embarassing consequences. Fortunately, my two older kids did not inherit this. Unfortunately, my 11 yr old daughter did. She obsesses over Google Earth and gets so obsessed with certain topics she makes you crazy talking about them (right now it is caves). A male can get away with this because if he is independent enough he can simply go his own way but I fear that life will be very tough for a girl like this. She has no idea that other little girls think she is weird and as her few friends get older and more interested in normal girl stuff they will abandon her and it will break my heart. When I see her staring at maps, I feel happy that she is like me but then I realize her fate to not have the social network that girls need. She is already alien to my wife who doesnt understand her. My wife couldnt find her way out of a paper bag but we let little Katie have the map and be navigator on trips. Stop sterotyping females, fiirst of all...not all females fit in your little scenario...my daughter is an engineer,,she has no use for girly-girl "networking" or whatever...one granddughtr is like her, the other very "girly girl" with tons of female friends that all stab each other in the back (behind each others backs)...make yourself sit through the movie "Mean Girls" and then readjust your thinking about what you want for your daughter...stir her into the science clubs at school...she'll probably have boys for her best friends...that's not a bad thing...she probably has an IQ above and beyond your other two girls and your wife... Took y'alls advice and am letting a shop work on my old truck, they better not screw it up. Should I allow somebody else to do the bottom paint and new prop on the S2? Once I allowed somebody else to bottom paint her and it all peeled off in 6 months. I get about 3 years out of a good paint job I do myself. Am gonna have to pay someone else to fix the kicker on the Tolman, I just cannot figger out the recoil starter. About kids: Always knew my 20 yr old daughter was smart AND socially well adjusted, maybe too much so cuz I think she is having too much fun at school but she is just being young. She has decided to major in Biology specializing in biochem. Told me last week that she is "enjoying organic chemistry". Then in a move sure to make me happy, she has taken up sailing and WANTS to take her new bf caving. Am obviously a proud father. My 17 yr old son is a puzzle to me cuz I think he has normal 17 yr old boy interests, cars, girls, and being cool. Being cool was not an option for me at that age so we clearly do not understand each other. No interest in Sci or tech unless it seems cool and very much a people person. Weird, weird, weird and drives me nuts. He says he hates sailing and doesnt even want to drive the Tolman. Not sure what to do with him. 11 yr old Katie is in her own world. She rescued a "snake" from the other kids at school and then spent the afternoon trying to convince them that it was really a "legless lizard" (I think she is right). When I got home she was playing with a Praying mantis she had found trying to feed it Love Bugs. Her little friend came over (and she is a girly girl) telling Katie she isnt allowed to climb trees at home so she comes over to see Katie who is allowed to do so (lawsuit coming I am sure). Fortunately, this friend is a good influence convincing Katie to wash the mud off herself before going to a movie. It is normal for a daddy to worry about his little girl. I wish I was young enough to have more kids. What in heck kind of parents forbid an 11 year old, either sex, to climb trees? The kid will not only go out an dclimb trees, put will probably try to climb the biggest one in the neighborhood...as far as your son is concerned, don't worry about him...expecting kids to be clones of you is unrealistic...we raised 5 kids, 4 boys and 1 girl...each is different than the other and each is different than their parents...some share our interests, some do not...that's life...it makes for a much more interesting family... Katy: You'd be amazed at what some parents think these days. Six months ago, when we had 8 little girls here for something they were all up in the big Live Oak tree having a ball. One dropped from a limb about 3' and slightly twisted her ankle I told her parents at the end of the night and now they will not allow her to visit because we allow them to do "dangerous things". Another time a little boy was here playing and a single fire ant bit him on his privates and you'd have thought we'd castrated him. He had no reaction that we could tell. His parents were so weird about playing outside that we decided he should not visit anymore. Another time the kids found a turtle and the parents of one little girl was shocked that we didnt follow em around with disinfectant for their hands being afraid of Salmonella. Poor kids...my philosophy on kid rearing is that a certain amount of concious neglect makes kids more independent and able to make choices later on...if they are never faced with crisis, no matter if it's being stuck ip in a tree or sitting on a log full of ants, how will they ever learn? So instead of following kids around with disinfectant because they touched a turtle, how about just explaining that turtles and other reptiles can carry germs, so for Pete's sake, wash your hands after handling? These children are being raised in such an insular manner that if something ever does happen in their lives, they will not be euipped to cope with it... |
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ups.com... not visit anymore. Another time the kids found a turtle and the parents of one little girl was shocked that we didnt follow em around with disinfectant for their hands being afraid of Salmonella. They were right. Can you imagine what would have happened if the little girl had been playing with a salmon??? Only dangerous if the salmon's name is Ella...it's ok if you play with one named Ed or George... |
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Scotty wrote:
"Frogwatch" wrote in message ups.com... ". Another time a little boy was here playing and a single fire ant bit him on his privates that's what he gets for trying to screw an ant. heh...when we were kids and on a family camping trip to the U.P. (my Dad and his primitive camping trips), my brother sat on a log full of red ants....hahahahaha...I never laughd so hard in all my life...I felt it was the payback for mnay things he'd done to me and my sisters and was justly deserved....we still remind him of it every now and again... |
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On Sep 26, 8:49 pm, katy wrote:
Scotty wrote: "Frogwatch" wrote in message oups.com... ". Another time a little boy was here playing and a single fire ant bit him on his privates that's what he gets for trying to screw an ant. heh...when we were kids and on a family camping trip to the U.P. (my Dad and his primitive camping trips), my brother sat on a log full of red ants....hahahahaha...I never laughd so hard in all my life...I felt it was the payback for mnay things he'd done to me and my sisters and was justly deserved....we still remind him of it every now and again... I grew up with seven sisters. My parents were not exactly well off but we camped a lot here in N. FL. They had us convinced that we were the luckiest kids in the world to be able to swim in an interesting water moccasin infested swamp compared to those poor kids who had to swim in boring motel pools. My earliest boating memory (I was 5) is my mom giving a moccasin who as trying to climb into the canoe beside me an "attitude adjustment" with the paddle. There was an enormous "CLANG" as paddle hit aluminum like an axe and the snakes head fell in front of me. I just wish I could give my kids half of the experiences my parents gave us on so little money. |
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On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:32:18 -0400, katy
wrote: What in heck kind of parents forbid an 11 year old, either sex, to climb trees? The kid will not only go out an dclimb trees, put will probably try to climb the biggest one in the neighborhood...as far as your son is concerned, don't worry about him...expecting kids to be clones of you is unrealistic...we raised 5 kids, 4 boys and 1 girl...each is different than the other and each is different than their parents...some share our interests, some do not...that's life...it makes for a much more interesting family... "Children don't come from you. They come through you." Ann Landers - 1972 |
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