Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

I often seem to find myself out on the water
and hungry because plans changed or the
wind died. Since I'm often on small daysailers,
this presents a problem.

I've started carrying a personal JetBoil in my
seabag. It is a 1 liter aluminum mug wrapped
in an insulated heat cosy. Inside itself is
stored a propane/butane mix canister and a
small burner with a bayonette mount which
makes in ultra-compact.

It will boil a cup of water in less than a minute
and two cups in a couple of minutes. It
works so well because it has a heat exchanger
built into the base of the mug. I use it for soup
and tea.


http://jetboil.com/

I store it in an insulated stuff sack designed
for a 1 ltr Naglene bottle. It probably doesn't
need a padded case, but I feel better about
tossing it around with the case on.

Be careful starting it. If you have it wide
open when you click the starter it will briefly
be engulfed in flames--that kind of excitement
you don't need! I just crack the valve slightly
while starting it, and click immediately without
waiting. The valve allows a fine degree of
adjustment so you can dial it down to a
simmer if you like.

I hold it while waiting for the water to boil--it is
that fast. I do not recommend sitting
it down on a boat, the base is too small
and it will fall over. An extra wide base
is offered as an option.

They also sell a hanging kit I thought would
work well hanging from a boom bail. Rather
than buy that I plan to make my own--if I
ever feel the need.

What else?

The mouth is wide enough that you can clean
it easily.

Be aware its fuel that is heavier than air, so use
the proper precautions.

Try one and you will want two so you can
keep a spare in your car along with a water
bottle and a few soup packets. Coffee drinkers
will like the optional French Press. I bought
one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
I often seem to find myself out on the water
and hungry because plans changed or the
wind died. Since I'm often on small daysailers,
this presents a problem.

I've started carrying a personal JetBoil in my
seabag. It is a 1 liter aluminum mug wrapped
in an insulated heat cosy. Inside itself is
stored a propane/butane mix canister and a
small burner with a bayonette mount which
makes in ultra-compact.

It will boil a cup of water in less than a minute
and two cups in a couple of minutes. It
works so well because it has a heat exchanger
built into the base of the mug. I use it for soup
and tea.


http://jetboil.com/

I store it in an insulated stuff sack designed
for a 1 ltr Naglene bottle. It probably doesn't
need a padded case, but I feel better about
tossing it around with the case on.

Be careful starting it. If you have it wide
open when you click the starter it will briefly
be engulfed in flames--that kind of excitement
you don't need! I just crack the valve slightly
while starting it, and click immediately without
waiting. The valve allows a fine degree of
adjustment so you can dial it down to a
simmer if you like.

I hold it while waiting for the water to boil--it is
that fast. I do not recommend sitting
it down on a boat, the base is too small
and it will fall over. An extra wide base
is offered as an option.

They also sell a hanging kit I thought would
work well hanging from a boom bail. Rather
than buy that I plan to make my own--if I
ever feel the need.

What else?

The mouth is wide enough that you can clean
it easily.

Be aware its fuel that is heavier than air, so use
the proper precautions.

Try one and you will want two so you can
keep a spare in your car along with a water
bottle and a few soup packets. Coffee drinkers
will like the optional French Press. I bought
one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.



Or, you could just heat up some hearty soop and put it in a thermos.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 21:59:39 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:


Or, you could just heat up some hearty soop and put it in a thermos.


That's where I keep my rum.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

Bart wrote:
I often seem to find myself out on the water
and hungry because plans changed or the
wind died. Since I'm often on small daysailers,
this presents a problem.

I've started carrying a personal JetBoil in my
seabag. It is a 1 liter aluminum mug wrapped
in an insulated heat cosy. Inside itself is
stored a propane/butane mix canister and a
small burner with a bayonette mount which
makes in ultra-compact.

It will boil a cup of water in less than a minute
and two cups in a couple of minutes. It
works so well because it has a heat exchanger
built into the base of the mug. I use it for soup
and tea.


http://jetboil.com/

I store it in an insulated stuff sack designed
for a 1 ltr Naglene bottle. It probably doesn't
need a padded case, but I feel better about
tossing it around with the case on.

Be careful starting it. If you have it wide
open when you click the starter it will briefly
be engulfed in flames--that kind of excitement
you don't need! I just crack the valve slightly
while starting it, and click immediately without
waiting. The valve allows a fine degree of
adjustment so you can dial it down to a
simmer if you like.

I hold it while waiting for the water to boil--it is
that fast. I do not recommend sitting
it down on a boat, the base is too small
and it will fall over. An extra wide base
is offered as an option.

They also sell a hanging kit I thought would
work well hanging from a boom bail. Rather
than buy that I plan to make my own--if I
ever feel the need.

What else?

The mouth is wide enough that you can clean
it easily.

Be aware its fuel that is heavier than air, so use
the proper precautions.

Try one and you will want two so you can
keep a spare in your car along with a water
bottle and a few soup packets. Coffee drinkers
will like the optional French Press. I bought
one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.

Wht not just use a thermos? Lots less hassle....

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

Backpacking equipment is cool. There's tons of small,
lightweight stuff. Can get expensive.

I still have a pair of Sterno cans in my boat as back ups.

Scotty



"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
I often seem to find myself out on the water
and hungry because plans changed or the
wind died. Since I'm often on small daysailers,
this presents a problem.

I've started carrying a personal JetBoil in my
seabag. It is a 1 liter aluminum mug wrapped
in an insulated heat cosy. Inside itself is
stored a propane/butane mix canister and a
small burner with a bayonette mount which
makes in ultra-compact.

It will boil a cup of water in less than a minute
and two cups in a couple of minutes. It
works so well because it has a heat exchanger
built into the base of the mug. I use it for soup
and tea.


http://jetboil.com/

I store it in an insulated stuff sack designed
for a 1 ltr Naglene bottle. It probably doesn't
need a padded case, but I feel better about
tossing it around with the case on.

Be careful starting it. If you have it wide
open when you click the starter it will briefly
be engulfed in flames--that kind of excitement
you don't need! I just crack the valve slightly
while starting it, and click immediately without
waiting. The valve allows a fine degree of
adjustment so you can dial it down to a
simmer if you like.

I hold it while waiting for the water to boil--it is
that fast. I do not recommend sitting
it down on a boat, the base is too small
and it will fall over. An extra wide base
is offered as an option.

They also sell a hanging kit I thought would
work well hanging from a boom bail. Rather
than buy that I plan to make my own--if I
ever feel the need.

What else?

The mouth is wide enough that you can clean
it easily.

Be aware its fuel that is heavier than air, so use
the proper precautions.

Try one and you will want two so you can
keep a spare in your car along with a water
bottle and a few soup packets. Coffee drinkers
will like the optional French Press. I bought
one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:20:25 -0400, katy
wrote this crap:
I bought
one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.

Wht not just use a thermos? Lots less hassle....


That's where you should keep your rum. Mixed with the coffee, of
course.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

"Bart" wrote
It will boil a cup of water in less than a minute
and two cups in a couple of minutes. It
works so well because it has a heat exchanger
built into the base of the mug. I use it for soup
and tea.

http://jetboil.com/

They also sell a hanging kit I thought would
work well hanging from a boom bail. Rather
than buy that I plan to make my own--if I
ever feel the need.


Would that also work inside from a bracket, like the little "sea-
swing" stoves? Those also work well and are compact.

"Capt. JG" wrote:
Or, you could just heat up some hearty soop and put it in a thermos.


And if you're out long enough that you either run out of soup, or it
gets cold in the thermos.... or you want to heat up something else
like coffee... you're SOL.

A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:20:25 -0400, katy
wrote this crap:

I bought

one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.


Wht not just use a thermos? Lots less hassle....



That's where you should keep your rum. Mixed with the coffee, of
course.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

I prefer Bailey's in my coffee....

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:50 -0400, katy
wrote this crap:

Wht not just use a thermos? Lots less hassle....
That's where you should keep your rum. Mixed with the coffee, of
course.

I prefer Bailey's in my coffee....


Wuss.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

wrote in message
ps.com...
"Bart" wrote
It will boil a cup of water in less than a minute
and two cups in a couple of minutes. It
works so well because it has a heat exchanger
built into the base of the mug. I use it for soup
and tea.

http://jetboil.com/

They also sell a hanging kit I thought would
work well hanging from a boom bail. Rather
than buy that I plan to make my own--if I
ever feel the need.


Would that also work inside from a bracket, like the little "sea-
swing" stoves? Those also work well and are compact.

"Capt. JG" wrote:
Or, you could just heat up some hearty soop and put it in a thermos.


And if you're out long enough that you either run out of soup, or it
gets cold in the thermos.... or you want to heat up something else
like coffee... you're SOL.

A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



A daysailor needs a stove?


--
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www.sailnow.com

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Backpacking equipment is cool. There's tons of small,
lightweight stuff. Can get expensive.

I still have a pair of Sterno cans in my boat as back ups.

Scotty



"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
I often seem to find myself out on the water
and hungry because plans changed or the
wind died. Since I'm often on small daysailers,
this presents a problem.

I've started carrying a personal JetBoil in my
seabag. It is a 1 liter aluminum mug wrapped
in an insulated heat cosy. Inside itself is
stored a propane/butane mix canister and a
small burner with a bayonette mount which
makes in ultra-compact.

It will boil a cup of water in less than a minute
and two cups in a couple of minutes. It
works so well because it has a heat exchanger
built into the base of the mug. I use it for soup
and tea.


http://jetboil.com/

I store it in an insulated stuff sack designed
for a 1 ltr Naglene bottle. It probably doesn't
need a padded case, but I feel better about
tossing it around with the case on.

Be careful starting it. If you have it wide
open when you click the starter it will briefly
be engulfed in flames--that kind of excitement
you don't need! I just crack the valve slightly
while starting it, and click immediately without
waiting. The valve allows a fine degree of
adjustment so you can dial it down to a
simmer if you like.

I hold it while waiting for the water to boil--it is
that fast. I do not recommend sitting
it down on a boat, the base is too small
and it will fall over. An extra wide base
is offered as an option.

They also sell a hanging kit I thought would
work well hanging from a boom bail. Rather
than buy that I plan to make my own--if I
ever feel the need.

What else?

The mouth is wide enough that you can clean
it easily.

Be aware its fuel that is heavier than air, so use
the proper precautions.

Try one and you will want two so you can
keep a spare in your car along with a water
bottle and a few soup packets. Coffee drinkers
will like the optional French Press. I bought
one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.





Now if we could just get you to not eat the sterno.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.



"Capt. JG" wrote:
A daysailor needs a stove?


Some do.

If it's a "daysailor" that is likely to be sailed for long hours, in
chilly weather, and/or for more hours and/or with more crew than a
Thermos is likely to take care of.

Please note I said "small cruising vessel."

One factor to bear in mind is that you can warm up the cabin/cuddy
with a small stove, and warm up your hands with it... not something
you can do with a Thermos.... especially an empty one....

DSK

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.



"Capt. JG" wrote:
A daysailor needs a stove?


Some do.

If it's a "daysailor" that is likely to be sailed for long hours, in
chilly weather, and/or for more hours and/or with more crew than a
Thermos is likely to take care of.

Please note I said "small cruising vessel."

One factor to bear in mind is that you can warm up the cabin/cuddy
with a small stove, and warm up your hands with it... not something
you can do with a Thermos.... especially an empty one....

DSK



All true, but I'm not a big fan of open flames on a small, tippy boat. You
can use reusable hand-warmers and layers to stay warm. You can have multiple
thermos. You can have energy bars. My last choice would be something I can
knock over that's on fire. :-) The jetboil doesn't look very stable....


--
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www.sailnow.com

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:42:56 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:

All true, but I'm not a big fan of open flames on a small, tippy boat. You
can use reusable hand-warmers and layers to stay warm. You can have multiple
thermos. You can have energy bars. My last choice would be something I can
knock over that's on fire. :-) The jetboil doesn't look very stable....


Wuss. A real man would start a fire in hell.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
wrote in message

ps.com...



A daysailor needs a stove?


most Benny's have stoves.

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...





Now if we could just get you to not eat the sterno.


what do *you* do when the rum bottles are empty?

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

hand warmer? that's what a wench is for.

;)



wrote in message
ups.com...
A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the
place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.



"Capt. JG" wrote:
A daysailor needs a stove?


Some do.

If it's a "daysailor" that is likely to be sailed for long
hours, in
chilly weather, and/or for more hours and/or with more
crew than a
Thermos is likely to take care of.

Please note I said "small cruising vessel."

One factor to bear in mind is that you can warm up the
cabin/cuddy
with a small stove, and warm up your hands with it... not
something
you can do with a Thermos.... especially an empty one....

DSK

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:50 -0400, katy
wrote:

Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:20:25 -0400, katy
wrote this crap:

I bought

one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.


Wht not just use a thermos? Lots less hassle....



That's where you should keep your rum. Mixed with the coffee, of
course.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

I prefer Bailey's in my coffee....


We used to sail from Gulfport harbor to the Broadwater Marina, about
six miles in the dead of the winter just to get an Irish coffee at the
bar. Now we could comfortably drive to the Broadwater, but then what
would be the point?

I back pack with a group and I can tell you that anything that can cut
down the amount of fuel you have to bring on a week long backpacking
trip is going to be a big seller.


Frank

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:50 -0400, katy
wrote:


Bloody Horvath wrote:

On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:20:25 -0400, katy
wrote this crap:


I bought


one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.


Wht not just use a thermos? Lots less hassle....



That's where you should keep your rum. Mixed with the coffee, of
course.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

I prefer Bailey's in my coffee....



We used to sail from Gulfport harbor to the Broadwater Marina, about
six miles in the dead of the winter just to get an Irish coffee at the
bar. Now we could comfortably drive to the Broadwater, but then what
would be the point?

Sounds like a good excuse to go sailing to me...

I back pack with a group and I can tell you that anything that can cut
down the amount of fuel you have to bring on a week long backpacking
trip is going to be a big seller.

Matches and propane BBQ torch....we usaed to make little homemade strno
things in Girl Scouts where you took a tunafish can, rolled up a strip
of currogated cardboard inside to fit so it was a coil and fill with
parafin...I can't remember if we used something for a wick or not..we
used to actually cook on those things!


Frank

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Sep 22, 11:01 pm, Bart wrote:
I often seem to find myself out on the water
and hungry because plans changed or the
wind died. Since I'm often on small daysailers,
this presents a problem.

I've started carrying a personal JetBoil in my
seabag. It is a 1 liter aluminum mug wrapped
in an insulated heat cosy. Inside itself is
stored a propane/butane mix canister and a
small burner with a bayonette mount which
makes in ultra-compact.

It will boil a cup of water in less than a minute
and two cups in a couple of minutes. It
works so well because it has a heat exchanger
built into the base of the mug. I use it for soup
and tea.

http://jetboil.com/

I store it in an insulated stuff sack designed
for a 1 ltr Naglene bottle. It probably doesn't
need a padded case, but I feel better about
tossing it around with the case on.

Be careful starting it. If you have it wide
open when you click the starter it will briefly
be engulfed in flames--that kind of excitement
you don't need! I just crack the valve slightly
while starting it, and click immediately without
waiting. The valve allows a fine degree of
adjustment so you can dial it down to a
simmer if you like.

I hold it while waiting for the water to boil--it is
that fast. I do not recommend sitting
it down on a boat, the base is too small
and it will fall over. An extra wide base
is offered as an option.

They also sell a hanging kit I thought would
work well hanging from a boom bail. Rather
than buy that I plan to make my own--if I
ever feel the need.

What else?

The mouth is wide enough that you can clean
it easily.

Be aware its fuel that is heavier than air, so use
the proper precautions.

Try one and you will want two so you can
keep a spare in your car along with a water
bottle and a few soup packets. Coffee drinkers
will like the optional French Press. I bought
one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.

You could get a solar stove. Since most small daysailors should be
near a beach.

http://www.surferchef.com/SimpleSolarStove.htm

Safe, clean, small, free unlimited fuel . You could build one too!

Joe

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
hand warmer? that's what a wench is for.

;)



I call them winch wenches...

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Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
wrote in message

ps.com...



A daysailor needs a stove?


most Benny's have stoves.


I stand corrected.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...





Now if we could just get you to not eat the sterno.


what do *you* do when the rum bottles are empty?





Piracy...

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Sep 22, 11:01 pm, Bart wrote:
I often seem to find myself out on the water
and hungry because plans changed or the
wind died. Since I'm often on small daysailers,
this presents a problem.

I've started carrying a personal JetBoil in my
seabag. It is a 1 liter aluminum mug wrapped
in an insulated heat cosy. Inside itself is
stored a propane/butane mix canister and a
small burner with a bayonette mount which
makes in ultra-compact.

It will boil a cup of water in less than a minute
and two cups in a couple of minutes. It
works so well because it has a heat exchanger
built into the base of the mug. I use it for soup
and tea.

http://jetboil.com/

I store it in an insulated stuff sack designed
for a 1 ltr Naglene bottle. It probably doesn't
need a padded case, but I feel better about
tossing it around with the case on.

Be careful starting it. If you have it wide
open when you click the starter it will briefly
be engulfed in flames--that kind of excitement
you don't need! I just crack the valve slightly
while starting it, and click immediately without
waiting. The valve allows a fine degree of
adjustment so you can dial it down to a
simmer if you like.

I hold it while waiting for the water to boil--it is
that fast. I do not recommend sitting
it down on a boat, the base is too small
and it will fall over. An extra wide base
is offered as an option.

They also sell a hanging kit I thought would
work well hanging from a boom bail. Rather
than buy that I plan to make my own--if I
ever feel the need.

What else?

The mouth is wide enough that you can clean
it easily.

Be aware its fuel that is heavier than air, so use
the proper precautions.

Try one and you will want two so you can
keep a spare in your car along with a water
bottle and a few soup packets. Coffee drinkers
will like the optional French Press. I bought
one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.

You could get a solar stove. Since most small daysailors should be
near a beach.

http://www.surferchef.com/SimpleSolarStove.htm

Safe, clean, small, free unlimited fuel . You could build one too!

Joe

Scott just uses his aluminum hat... :-)

--
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www.sailnow.com

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

"Capt. JG" wrote:
All true, but I'm not a big fan of open flames on a small, tippy boat.

Wimp.
What about open flames on a BIG tippy boat?

.... You
can use reusable hand-warmers and layers to stay warm.

And if you're still freakin' cold?

Besides, those hand-warmers don't work.

You can have multiple
thermos.

You can, as long as you remember what's in each one. And they still
cool off in a few hours or run out. Not a replacement for a proper
stove.

You can have energy bars.

Those things are fattening.

My last choice would be something I can
knock over that's on fire. :-)

Mine too. That's why I said "a small cruising boat should have a
proper stove."

I have cruised with a fixed wick-type alcohol stove, and a swing-mount
camp style stove. Both can be good and can't be replaced *for
cruising* ....or unintentionally extended daysails in poor conditions
IMHO... by power bars, skier's hand-warmers, or a thermos. Although
any of the latter would be better than nothing.

DSK

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

wrote in message
ps.com...
"Capt. JG" wrote:
All true, but I'm not a big fan of open flames on a small, tippy boat.

Wimp.
What about open flames on a BIG tippy boat?

Heh... I have yet to fire up my Origo
..

.... You
can use reusable hand-warmers and layers to stay warm.

And if you're still freakin' cold?

Besides, those hand-warmers don't work.

I have some that work fine... I forget the brand.. you bend a small piece of
metal in a liquid gel, and they get hot. You boil them to reset them.


You can have multiple
thermos.

You can, as long as you remember what's in each one. And they still
cool off in a few hours or run out. Not a replacement for a proper
stove.

We're talkin labelling...

You can have energy bars.

Those things are fattening.

Fat is good when you're trying to stay warm!

My last choice would be something I can
knock over that's on fire. :-)

Mine too. That's why I said "a small cruising boat should have a
proper stove."

I have cruised with a fixed wick-type alcohol stove, and a swing-mount
camp style stove. Both can be good and can't be replaced *for
cruising* ....or unintentionally extended daysails in poor conditions
IMHO... by power bars, skier's hand-warmers, or a thermos. Although
any of the latter would be better than nothing.

DSK




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Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

Besides, those hand-warmers don't work.



I have some that work fine... I forget the brand.. you bend a small piece of
metal in a liquid gel, and they get hot. You boil them to reset them.


The ones I know about either burn the crap out of you for 2 minutes
and then get cold, or they only get luke warm in the first place.

How long do these ones stay warm, and if it's more than an hour, tell
me the name please.



You can have energy bars.

Those things are fattening.

Fat is good when you're trying to stay warm!


True
But you have to start getting stoked up well ahead of time.... like at
least a few months....

DSK

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Mon, 24 Sep 2007 18:52:22 -0700, wrote:

Besides, those hand-warmers don't work.



I have some that work fine... I forget the brand.. you bend a small piece of
metal in a liquid gel, and they get hot. You boil them to reset them.


The ones I know about either burn the crap out of you for 2 minutes
and then get cold, or they only get luke warm in the first place.

http://www.amazon.com/Large-Platinum.../dp/B000CGG5EC

Zippo handwarmers were common years ago, and I had one. They came in
and were kept in a felt pouch, because the metal was a bit too hot.
If I spent enough time outdoors, and my hands got cold, it's what I
would use.
When your hands get cold it usually indicates a core temp or
circulation problem. When I worked outdoors, dressing correctly kept
my hands warm. The handwarmer turned out to be a novelty, and I
only used it a couple times.

--Vic

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Besides, those hand-warmers don't work.



I have some that work fine... I forget the brand.. you bend a small piece
of
metal in a liquid gel, and they get hot. You boil them to reset them.


The ones I know about either burn the crap out of you for 2 minutes
and then get cold, or they only get luke warm in the first place.

How long do these ones stay warm, and if it's more than an hour, tell
me the name please.



You can have energy bars.

Those things are fattening.

Fat is good when you're trying to stay warm!


True
But you have to start getting stoked up well ahead of time.... like at
least a few months....

DSK



I can't recall the name of them... I think they're called Heat Bags. They
use sodium acetate I believe. Here's reference.

http://ask.metafilter.com/29546/Heat...w-does-it-work

Next time I get down to the boat, I'll write down the name.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
Besides, those hand-warmers don't work.



I have some that work fine... I forget the brand.. you bend a small piece
of
metal in a liquid gel, and they get hot. You boil them to reset them.


The ones I know about either burn the crap out of you for 2 minutes
and then get cold, or they only get luke warm in the first place.

How long do these ones stay warm, and if it's more than an hour, tell
me the name please.



You can have energy bars.

Those things are fattening.

Fat is good when you're trying to stay warm!


True
But you have to start getting stoked up well ahead of time.... like at
least a few months....

DSK



Ah... here they are... Amazon and REI

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/cus...ustomerReviews

http://www.rei.com/product/608751

They last a bit under an hour...


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Sep 23, 9:39 pm, wrote:
A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.

"Capt. JG" wrote:
A daysailor needs a stove?

Some do.

If it's a "daysailor" that is likely to be sailed for long hours, in
chilly weather, and/or for more hours and/or with more crew than a
Thermos is likely to take care of.

Please note I said "small cruising vessel."

One factor to bear in mind is that you can warm up the cabin/cuddy
with a small stove, and warm up your hands with it... not something
you can do with a Thermos.... especially an empty one....

DSK

I had an interesting charter today. It was a gorgeous
young girl with an older guy. Pretty soon his camera
came out and he started taking pictures of the
little hottie. She got into it, and I can't blame her.
It was sunny, light winds and perfect for peeling down.
Before long, off came the bikini top, and a half an hour
later off came the thong. I wish I had a few copies of
those pics. She looked like Penelope Cruz.

Later I was asked to run a boat from 6-9pm. I
didn't have my little stove. I'd given my first one to my
Uncle who is driving cross country and ordered
another. I sure wish I had it today. I could have used
it this evening when I started to run out of steam on
another job that I didn't think started until Wednesday.

So for unexpected events, water, some soup mix and
a JetBoil are an unbeatable combo. A Thermos would
have done me no good because it would have been
empty!

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Sep 23, 9:42 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...



A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.

"Capt. JG" wrote:
A daysailor needs a stove?

Some do.

If it's a "daysailor" that is likely to be sailed for long hours, in
chilly weather, and/or for more hours and/or with more crew than a
Thermos is likely to take care of.

Please note I said "small cruising vessel."

One factor to bear in mind is that you can warm up the cabin/cuddy
with a small stove, and warm up your hands with it... not something
you can do with a Thermos.... especially an empty one....

DSK

All true, but I'm not a big fan of open flames on a small, tippy boat. You
can use reusable hand-warmers and layers to stay warm. You can have multiple
thermos. You can have energy bars. My last choice would be something I can
knock over that's on fire. :-) The jetboil doesn't look very stable....

--
"j" ganz

Good point Jon. I've been using protein bars all
year and run out of my favorite kind. They work
great, and store well. No need for a stove at all.

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Sep 24, 11:30 am, Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:50 -0400, katy
wrote:



Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:20:25 -0400, katy
wrote this crap:

I bought

one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.

Wht not just use a thermos? Lots less hassle....

That's where you should keep your rum. Mixed with the coffee, of
course.



I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

I prefer Bailey's in my coffee....

We used to sail from Gulfport harbor to the Broadwater Marina, about
six miles in the dead of the winter just to get an Irish coffee at the
bar. Now we could comfortably drive to the Broadwater, but then what
would be the point?

I back pack with a group and I can tell you that anything that can cut
down the amount of fuel you have to bring on a week long backpacking
trip is going to be a big seller.

Frank

I'm wondering if that mantleless stove will work on
the partially used canisters I have laying around. I
tend to change cans when i think I'm low rather than
carrying a spare. That would be a good way to finish
off the nearly empties.

These things are pretty light Frank. I've heard that when
the fuel starts to run out they don't work as well. This is
not a problem for me in my application. Apparently the
propane in the blend burns off first, then the isobutane
becomes a problem when it is cold and at high altitude.
The issues are starting and keeping it hot and burning.

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:22:38 -0700, Bart
wrote:

On Sep 24, 11:30 am, Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:50 -0400, katy
wrote:



Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:20:25 -0400, katy
wrote this crap:

I bought

one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.

Wht not just use a thermos? Lots less hassle....

That's where you should keep your rum. Mixed with the coffee, of
course.



I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

I prefer Bailey's in my coffee....

We used to sail from Gulfport harbor to the Broadwater Marina, about
six miles in the dead of the winter just to get an Irish coffee at the
bar. Now we could comfortably drive to the Broadwater, but then what
would be the point?

I back pack with a group and I can tell you that anything that can cut
down the amount of fuel you have to bring on a week long backpacking
trip is going to be a big seller.

Frank

I'm wondering if that mantleless stove will work on
the partially used canisters I have laying around. I
tend to change cans when i think I'm low rather than
carrying a spare. That would be a good way to finish
off the nearly empties.

Do the same thing with small propane cylinders for my lightweight fish
cooker. Don't want to run out in the middle of the cooking cycle, so
change it out. Always have a few partials around. In the winter I
use them up by hooking them up to my shop heater to take the chill off
the shop. Doesn't take but a few minutes to burn off the balance at
16K btu

These things are pretty light Frank. I've heard that when
the fuel starts to run out they don't work as well. This is
not a problem for me in my application. Apparently the
propane in the blend burns off first, then the isobutane
becomes a problem when it is cold and at high altitude.
The issues are starting and keeping it hot and burning.

I currently use a Peak I multi-fuel. It hs been extraodinarily
reliable and runs hot with good turndown. However, it is a little
heavy and, in the cold weather when doing a lot of hot drinks a tank
of fuel will last at best a day. Requires additional heavy fuel for
multiday trips. So, a lighter, more fuel efficient unit is on the
consideration list, after the lighter bags, water filter, etc........

Frank

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

Bart wrote:


I had an interesting charter today. It was a gorgeous
young girl with an older guy. Pretty soon his camera
came out and he started taking pictures of the
little hottie. She got into it, and I can't blame her.
It was sunny, light winds and perfect for peeling down.
Before long, off came the bikini top, and a half an hour
later off came the thong. I wish I had a few copies of
those pics. She looked like Penelope Cruz.

And to think..you even got paid!

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

"Bart" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Sep 23, 9:39 pm, wrote:
A thermos flask is very handy but it does not take the place of a
stove on a small cruising vessel.

"Capt. JG" wrote:
A daysailor needs a stove?

Some do.

If it's a "daysailor" that is likely to be sailed for long hours, in
chilly weather, and/or for more hours and/or with more crew than a
Thermos is likely to take care of.

Please note I said "small cruising vessel."

One factor to bear in mind is that you can warm up the cabin/cuddy
with a small stove, and warm up your hands with it... not something
you can do with a Thermos.... especially an empty one....

DSK

I had an interesting charter today. It was a gorgeous
young girl with an older guy. Pretty soon his camera
came out and he started taking pictures of the
little hottie. She got into it, and I can't blame her.
It was sunny, light winds and perfect for peeling down.
Before long, off came the bikini top, and a half an hour
later off came the thong. I wish I had a few copies of
those pics. She looked like Penelope Cruz.

Later I was asked to run a boat from 6-9pm. I
didn't have my little stove. I'd given my first one to my
Uncle who is driving cross country and ordered
another. I sure wish I had it today. I could have used
it this evening when I started to run out of steam on
another job that I didn't think started until Wednesday.

So for unexpected events, water, some soup mix and
a JetBoil are an unbeatable combo. A Thermos would
have done me no good because it would have been
empty!



I always make sure to bring my cell phone, which has a 2mg camera and video.
You never know. :-)


--
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www.sailnow.com

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Bart wrote:


I had an interesting charter today. It was a gorgeous
young girl with an older guy. Pretty soon his camera
came out and he started taking pictures of the
little hottie. She got into it, and I can't blame her.
It was sunny, light winds and perfect for peeling down.
Before long, off came the bikini top, and a half an hour
later off came the thong. I wish I had a few copies of
those pics. She looked like Penelope Cruz.

And to think..you even got paid!



Yeah, but he can't remember how much or in what currency. :-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

Bart wrote:
.... off came the thong. I wish I had a few copies of
those pics. She looked like Penelope Cruz.

Does that make your boat a Cruz-er?


"katysails" wrote
And to think..you even got paid!


"Capt. JG" wrote:
Yeah, but he can't remember how much or in what currency. :-)


I wonder if the pics are to be published. If so, Bart should claim
residual rights.

DSK

Daysailor's Portable Stove -- JetBoil
 

On Sep 25, 7:29 am, Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007 01:22:38 -0700, Bart
wrote:



On Sep 24, 11:30 am, Frank Boettcher wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 18:07:50 -0400, katy
wrote:

Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:20:25 -0400, katy
wrote this crap:

I bought

one of those even though I don't drink coffee.
I can see that it would be nice for those who
have to have coffee to function. I have not
tried that yet on anyone.

Wht not just use a thermos? Lots less hassle....

That's where you should keep your rum. Mixed with the coffee, of
course.



I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

I prefer Bailey's in my coffee....

We used to sail from Gulfport harbor to the Broadwater Marina, about
six miles in the dead of the winter just to get an Irish coffee at the
bar. Now we could comfortably drive to the Broadwater, but then what
would be the point?

I back pack with a group and I can tell you that anything that can cut
down the amount of fuel you have to bring on a week long backpacking
trip is going to be a big seller.

Frank

I'm wondering if that mantleless stove will work on
the partially used canisters I have laying around. I
tend to change cans when i think I'm low rather than
carrying a spare. That would be a good way to finish
off the nearly empties.

Do the same thing with small propane cylinders for my lightweight fish
cooker. Don't want to run out in the middle of the cooking cycle, so
change it out. Always have a few partials around. In the winter I
use them up by hooking them up to my shop heater to take the chill off
the shop. Doesn't take but a few minutes to burn off the balance at
16K btu



These things are pretty light Frank. I've heard that when
the fuel starts to run out they don't work as well. This is
not a problem for me in my application. Apparently the
propane in the blend burns off first, then the isobutane
becomes a problem when it is cold and at high altitude.
The issues are starting and keeping it hot and burning.

I currently use a Peak I multi-fuel. It hs been extraodinarily
reliable and runs hot with good turndown. However, it is a little
heavy and, in the cold weather when doing a lot of hot drinks a tank
of fuel will last at best a day. Requires additional heavy fuel for
multiday trips. So, a lighter, more fuel efficient unit is on the
consideration list, after the lighter bags, water filter, etc........

Frank

You can pick up these JetBoils for around $70 with shipping
on eBay. I'd like to buy a companion cup w/out the stove
for friends that come out with me. I won't pay more than $20
with shipping for one of those. It may take a while to find
one in my price range. I feel that if I have to pay more
than this, I might as well get a spare stove for backup. It
isn't much more weight and you would have a spare fuel
canister as well.