"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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On Sep 21, 4:14 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
It's the dawn of the new age of sail.

It's the dawn of stupidity, I'm afraid. Consider the following:

So you're selling it on E-Bay? And it's really great coffee. . .

E-bay and at ellagocoffee.com. What's wrong with a public auction?
How better to reach the masses? Will sell of craigslist as well.

Then ask yourself what's the use of shipping it up to Houston when you
could sit on your boat in Ambergris and Fed Ex it from Ambergris at not
much more cost than from Houston?

Sorry, check out the shipping rates from Belize..10lbs 99 dollars..1
lb 10 dollars and that is from the mainland. Regardless it's is the
manner in which it is shipped Wilbur. Commerce and trade use more fuel
than mfg. If we can reduce the fuel use in trade we can reduce one of
the worlds major sources of oil consumption. Would you rather pay a
large oil burning freighter the major portion of that 9 bucks a
pound.. or a sailor who can get it to market faster?

Doh! Your customers will pay the
freight anyway and I doubt they balk at a little more for shipping.

I can not cure the whole worlds dependence on oil, but I can take a
step towards reducing the dependence in one step in the process. I
hope my model of eco-friendly sustainable transport catches on that
any sailor in the future will have a pollution free sky to see the
star, to which he can helm a great sailing ship towards.

Besides, you can probably avoid the state sales tax issue
altogether and
this would offset the extra shipping.

We will sell it local and ship it.

Check out the Fed Ex or UPS rates and you'll see the folly of your
venture. They can ship it cheaper than you can. I hope this helps.

How do you know what it's going to cost me to ship it on RedCloud?
What if it cost more? Are you not willing to spend an extra dime to
help a fellow sailor and the planet? You may not be Wilbur, but I'm
betting that many will be.

Joe


Shipping it on Red Cloud will end up being more expensive than you think
provided you pay the crew a fair wage (on the books) even if the wage
isn't really collected. And you and I both know you can't count on
anything but headwinds on the return trip that time of year. You'll end up
burning lots of diesel. But, it's possible you might beat the prevailing
winds and get a sailing window. Have you researched the pilot charts for
that time of year?

Well, there IS such a thing as a niche market and coffee seems to be a
good way to go as there are lots of greenies sipping with a pinky stuck
out who identify with coffee. Starbucks sure has cashed in on thousands of
dumb liberals who are willing to pay three or four bucks for a cup of
latte.

I wish you well but I hope you've got a brain for marketing. Maybe the
Mermaid is sharp there.

Wilbur Hubbard

As always, Wilbur is brilliant. Starbucks is about image, it's the privelege
of paying $4 for a cup of coffee. If they charged 50 cents a cup they would
go broke due to lack of sales.
What ever happened to the "Old cup of Joe" like Forrest Tucker made in his
helmet in "The Sands of Iwo Jima"? Shells, bombs and bullets flying about,
manly men doing manly things and enjoying a simple cup of coffee while the
Japs (wearing shiny helmets that reflected the camera lights) bayoneted his
buddies. Now that's coffe and that is ambience. Starbucks doesn't even rate
compared to that.


"Life is tough, it's even tougher when you're stupid."

John Wayne, Sands of Iwo Jima

On Sep 21, 5:17 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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On Sep 21, 4:14 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
It's the dawn of the new age of sail.

It's the dawn of stupidity, I'm afraid. Consider the following:

So you're selling it on E-Bay? And it's really great coffee. . .

E-bay and at ellagocoffee.com. What's wrong with a public auction?
How better to reach the masses? Will sell of craigslist as well.

Then ask yourself what's the use of shipping it up to Houston when
you
could sit on your boat in Ambergris and Fed Ex it from Ambergris at
not
much more cost than from Houston?

Sorry, check out the shipping rates from Belize..10lbs 99 dollars..1
lb 10 dollars and that is from the mainland. Regardless it's is the
manner in which it is shipped Wilbur. Commerce and trade use more fuel
than mfg. If we can reduce the fuel use in trade we can reduce one of
the worlds major sources of oil consumption. Would you rather pay a
large oil burning freighter the major portion of that 9 bucks a
pound.. or a sailor who can get it to market faster?

Doh! Your customers will pay the
freight anyway and I doubt they balk at a little more for shipping.

I can not cure the whole worlds dependence on oil, but I can take a
step towards reducing the dependence in one step in the process. I
hope my model of eco-friendly sustainable transport catches on that
any sailor in the future will have a pollution free sky to see the
star, to which he can helm a great sailing ship towards.

Besides, you can probably avoid the state sales tax issue
altogether and
this would offset the extra shipping.

We will sell it local and ship it.

Check out the Fed Ex or UPS rates and you'll see the folly of your
venture. They can ship it cheaper than you can. I hope this helps.

How do you know what it's going to cost me to ship it on RedCloud?
What if it cost more? Are you not willing to spend an extra dime to
help a fellow sailor and the planet? You may not be Wilbur, but I'm
betting that many will be.

Joe

Shipping it on Red Cloud will end up being more expensive than you think
provided you pay the crew a fair wage (on the books) even if the wage
isn't really collected. And you and I both know you can't count on
anything but headwinds on the return trip that time of year.

Yes I have studied a pilot chart. I'll have a current pushing me back

You'll end
up burning lots of diesel.

Not so..Infact none. .

But, it's possible you might beat the
prevailing winds and get a sailing window. Have you researched the pilot
charts for that time of year?

Well, there IS such a thing as a niche market and coffee seems to be a
good way to go as there are lots of greenies sipping with a pinky stuck
out who identify with coffee. Starbucks sure has cashed in on thousands
of dumb liberals who are willing to pay three or four bucks for a cup of
latte.

I wish you well

Thanks Wilbur

but I hope you've got a brain for marketing. Maybe the
Mermaid is sharp there.

I bet she has 1000's and 1000's of press contacts dealing with
sailing, coffee and green subject matters.Why I bet we will have the
press all over this when the timing is right.

I figured you guys here would rip me apart with tough questions,
what better way to prep for the press than to post on asa:0)?

Joe

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"Joe" wrote in message
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On Sep 21, 5:17 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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On Sep 21, 4:14 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
It's the dawn of the new age of sail.

It's the dawn of stupidity, I'm afraid. Consider the following:

So you're selling it on E-Bay? And it's really great coffee. . .

E-bay and at ellagocoffee.com. What's wrong with a public auction?
How better to reach the masses? Will sell of craigslist as well.

Then ask yourself what's the use of shipping it up to Houston when
you
could sit on your boat in Ambergris and Fed Ex it from Ambergris at
not
much more cost than from Houston?

Sorry, check out the shipping rates from Belize..10lbs 99 dollars..1
lb 10 dollars and that is from the mainland. Regardless it's is the
manner in which it is shipped Wilbur. Commerce and trade use more fuel
than mfg. If we can reduce the fuel use in trade we can reduce one of
the worlds major sources of oil consumption. Would you rather pay a
large oil burning freighter the major portion of that 9 bucks a
pound.. or a sailor who can get it to market faster?

Doh! Your customers will pay the
freight anyway and I doubt they balk at a little more for shipping.

I can not cure the whole worlds dependence on oil, but I can take a
step towards reducing the dependence in one step in the process. I
hope my model of eco-friendly sustainable transport catches on that
any sailor in the future will have a pollution free sky to see the
star, to which he can helm a great sailing ship towards.

Besides, you can probably avoid the state sales tax issue
altogether and
this would offset the extra shipping.

We will sell it local and ship it.

Check out the Fed Ex or UPS rates and you'll see the folly of your
venture. They can ship it cheaper than you can. I hope this helps.

How do you know what it's going to cost me to ship it on RedCloud?
What if it cost more? Are you not willing to spend an extra dime to
help a fellow sailor and the planet? You may not be Wilbur, but I'm
betting that many will be.

Joe

Shipping it on Red Cloud will end up being more expensive than you think
provided you pay the crew a fair wage (on the books) even if the wage
isn't really collected. And you and I both know you can't count on
anything but headwinds on the return trip that time of year.

Yes I have studied a pilot chart. I'll have a current pushing me back

You'll end
up burning lots of diesel.

Not so..Infact none. .

But, it's possible you might beat the
prevailing winds and get a sailing window. Have you researched the pilot
charts for that time of year?

Well, there IS such a thing as a niche market and coffee seems to be a
good way to go as there are lots of greenies sipping with a pinky stuck
out who identify with coffee. Starbucks sure has cashed in on thousands
of dumb liberals who are willing to pay three or four bucks for a cup of
latte.

I wish you well

Thanks Wilbur

but I hope you've got a brain for marketing. Maybe the
Mermaid is sharp there.

I bet she has 1000's and 1000's of press contacts dealing with
sailing, coffee and green subject matters.Why I bet we will have the
press all over this when the timing is right.

I figured you guys here would rip me apart with tough questions,
what better way to prep for the press than to post on asa:0)?

Joe

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There is more money in Cuban cigars, Jamaican pot, and Columbian coke.

"Joe" wrote in message
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I figured you guys here would rip me apart with tough questions,
what better way to prep for the press than to post on asa:0)?



Not everyone who stops at a car wreck is there to help.

Lloyd

"Lloyd Bonafide" wrote:..

There is a reason that coffee was last hauled on a sailing ship almost 100
years ago.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You sure do talk to much. heheee

"Joe" wrote:

On Sep 21, 5:17 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:

Thanks Wilbur

but I hope you've got a brain for marketing. Maybe the
Mermaid is sharp there.

I bet she has 1000's and 1000's of press contacts dealing with
sailing, coffee and green subject matters.Why I bet we will have the
press all over this when the timing is right.

I figured you guys here would rip me apart with tough questions,
what better way to prep for the press than to post on asa:0)?

You thought you would walk the plank?

Ding, ding, Joe wins!

"Lloyd Bonafide" wrote:

Not everyone who stops at a car wreck is there to help.

Lloyd

That is profounding!

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Pronunciation[pruh-found] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
adjective, -er, -est, noun
-adjective 1. penetrating or entering deeply into subjects of thought or
knowledge; having deep insight or understanding: a profound thinker.
2. originating in or penetrating to the depths of one's being;
profound grief.
3. being or going far beneath what is superficial, external, or
obvious: profound insight.
4. of deep meaning; of great and broadly inclusive significance: a
profound book.
5. pervasive or intense; thorough; complete: a profound silence.
6. extending, situated, or originating far down, or far beneath the
surface: the profound depths of the ocean.
7. low: a profound bow.
8. deep.
-noun Literary. 9. something that is profound.
10. the deep sea; ocean.
11. depth; abyss.


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fundus bottom (see found2)]

-Related forms
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-Synonyms 1. deep, sagacious.
-Antonyms 1. shallow, superficial.

"Capt. Bess Kidd" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote:

On Sep 21, 5:17 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote:

Thanks Wilbur

but I hope you've got a brain for marketing. Maybe the
Mermaid is sharp there.

I bet she has 1000's and 1000's of press contacts dealing with
sailing, coffee and green subject matters.Why I bet we will have the
press all over this when the timing is right.

I figured you guys here would rip me apart with tough questions,
what better way to prep for the press than to post on asa:0)?

You thought you would walk the plank?

Ding, ding, Joe wins!




No, YOU lose. PLONK!

Wilbur Hubbard

"Joe" wrote in message
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(by the time they roast 10,000 pounds,
the first part of production will already be past the
"sell by" date without the
shipping delay even factored in) you change your story
and say you will be
bringing a load of more than one item.

Please quote me saying a load of "one item". The cargo
will all be
coffee, not all roasted, not all green.

Now you are back to claiming a shipment
of 10,000 pounds of coffee. Oh, yeah, your supplier
already sells his finished
product in the USA on the internet with $4.98 shipping
on any sized order.

What no link?

Maybe
you should order 10,000 pounds with $4.98 shipping! Did
you do ANY actual
research? Really doesn't sound like it.


10,000 lbs of coffee sounds about right, to smuggle in 400
lbs. of 'coke'.
You should turn a good profit per trip.

Good luck, Joe.

Scotty

It's Fall now. Nothing like that first morning cup, out in
the cockpit watching the sun come up to dry the dew.

Scotty


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Thank you Joe,

I want you to remember that I'm also a Coffee Lover but
not a Coffee
Snob.

http://d21c.com/nrp1/ccups/pg4-thur.jpeg

I've never found a coffee I don't like.

Good luck with your new endeavor! Hope it works out for
you.




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