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[email protected] September 7th 07 08:37 PM

Doug's World, Excellent!
 
... it's difficult
to explain to family & friends who aren't sailors or cruisers.


Bobsprit wrote:
That's because your family probably knows that you prefer to sail,
wanted a sailboat and that you were actively looking at cruising
sailboats, even showing Kathie a C&C at one point.


Hey Boobsie, are you still butting in, pretending that you know
anything about sailing and/or cruising?

The parts that are difficult to explain are schedule/location
problems, integral to travel by water.... and basic infrastructure
like dependence on holding tank pump-outs.


katysails wrote:
...I;'ve seen plenty
of sailing families whose kids have had it...they want a life on teh
weekends other than going to the marina and hanging about on a
boat...they want their friends, parties, shopping, etc. So then you have
a choice: you let them go off by themselves and suffer the consequences;
or you make them go with you and sit with a boatful of resentful kids
who whine and pule about having to be there...or...maybe you'll get
lucky...once in a while a person does and the kids take to it like ducks
out of water...most likely not, though,, it will be some combination of
the first two scenarios.


A lot of successful junior sailing programs are structured around the
kids using it as a social outlet, so that they want to be there and
secondarily want to learn to sail better.

... Enjoy what you have now. Sail like you want
now. You can't predict the future and you shouldn't try reading into the
lives of othersthings that may not be there at all.


You mean the way Boobsie can't believe somebody who could afford a C&C
121 wouldn't buy it.... of course, he could take some time away from
his psychotic posting, hunting thru our web sites, and trying to hack
into our blog, and re-read my posts about that particular boat.... or
even the whole series of boat-shopping posts.... he might learn
something.


Frank Boettcher wrote:
With the exception of the occasional lapses into Katytype, you have
hit the nail on the head.

All my sons are good sailors. Yacht club, one design trained. Each
of them have gone through periods where other interests (not go fast
stuff necesarily) were more important than sailing. As adults, each
of them is showing signs they may be coming back.


That's because once you've tried it, there is absolutely nothing half
as much worth doing as simply fooling around in boats. It's a sense of
real accomplishment and can be a young person's first taste of true
independence, to skipper their own boat and be acknowledged by the
world outside their family as a good sailor.

The problem may be lack of time... sailing is generally a time-
intensive sport, but a lot of modern approaches are reducing that
considerably. One is the type of club that owns & maintains it's club-
owned fleet.... you join, you sail when you can, you participate in
maintenance or pay a fee (which need not be a lot)... and of course
all the club social activities too. Unfortunately there aren't clubs
like this everywhere.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Capt. Rob September 7th 07 09:35 PM

Doug's World, Excellent!
 
You mean the way Boobsie can't believe somebody who could afford a
C&C
121 wouldn't buy it....


We can afford to buy a boat that costs more...a lot more...than a 121,
and guess what, Doug? We're buying it. We're currently planning for
summer of 2009 or spring of 2010 for the new boat. It won't be a
trawler. In fact I plan to post what she is in just a few months, once
I'm certain we're buying it.
I still remember your post on the 121, and how you showed it to Kathie
"hoping she'd like it."

She didn't and now you don't sail. End of story and wrong choice for a
wife.



RB
35s5
NY


Bloody Horvath September 8th 07 12:08 AM

Doug's World, Excellent!
 
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:48:47 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:


I do like the swim platforms on Hunter's...just don't like some of the
other features...way too much plastic on the interior...



Does this look like too much plastic?

http://www.huntermarine.com/Models/33/33Index.html



You had it custom designed? Hunters I;ve seen have all been plastic....


Does this look like too much plastic?


I teach on Hunters, unfortunately quite a bit. They're truly lousy boats.



You lie. They are the best sailboats made.


The Hunter 33 – Mid-Sized; Big Quality!

Taking its celebrated hull design from the proven running bottoms of
its larger 41- and 44-foot sisterships, the Hunter 33 imparts the best
in performance without compromising one inch of interior space,
resulting in a top-of-the-line midsize cruiser that has it all. The
deck of the Hunter 33 features an entertainment-ready cockpit with a
drop-leaf table, surrounded by plenty of built-in seating for friends
and family. The Hunter 33 is the ultimate cruiser in its size range,
featuring world-class accommodations that are second to none. The aft
master stateroom features a spacious double berth and abundant
storage, while the forward cabin offers privacy for another couple.
The U-shaped galleyonboard the Hunter 33 includes a Corian®
countertop, two-burner range, icebox and deep sink. The Hunter 33's
salon offers expansive seating, a drop-down table and a navigation
station. An easy-maintenance fiberglass head wraps up the outstanding
Hunter 33 package

http://www.huntermarine.com/Models/33/33Index.html


http://www.huntermarine.com/Differen...enceIndex.html


You can only wish you could own something like this.





I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Bloody Horvath September 8th 07 12:11 AM

Doug's World, Excellent!
 
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:41:04 -0400, katy
wrote this crap:

You have to be kidding! The interior is all teak. The storage areas
are cedar lined.


You had it custom designed? Hunters I;ve seen have all been plastic....




No...there's a Hunter cattywumpus across from our boat and another 2
slips down...both are pretty plastic-y inside...some wood trim, but not
much...and they're newer boats..I would say late 90's....



You lie. Here's what the interior looks like.

http://www.huntermarine.com/Models/33/33Index.html


You wish for something this nice. Now stop lying. And go back to
Chicago.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

Capt. Rob September 8th 07 12:53 AM

Doug's World, Excellent!
 
Katy, the newer Hunters, like the 33 I have up on Yachtworld, are
worlds better and nicer than boats from the 90's. I believe that they
are committed to taking more market share from Catalina and Beneteau.



RB
35s5
NY


katy September 8th 07 01:24 AM

Doug's World, Excellent!
 
Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:48:47 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote this crap:


I do like the swim platforms on Hunter's...just don't like some of the
other features...way too much plastic on the interior...




Does this look like too much plastic?

http://www.huntermarine.com/Models/33/33Index.html



You had it custom designed? Hunters I;ve seen have all been plastic....



Does this look like too much plastic?



I teach on Hunters, unfortunately quite a bit. They're truly lousy boats.




You lie. They are the best sailboats made.


The Hunter 33 – Mid-Sized; Big Quality!

Taking its celebrated hull design from the proven running bottoms of
its larger 41- and 44-foot sisterships, the Hunter 33 imparts the best
in performance without compromising one inch of interior space,
resulting in a top-of-the-line midsize cruiser that has it all. The
deck of the Hunter 33 features an entertainment-ready cockpit with a
drop-leaf table, surrounded by plenty of built-in seating for friends
and family. The Hunter 33 is the ultimate cruiser in its size range,
featuring world-class accommodations that are second to none. The aft
master stateroom features a spacious double berth and abundant
storage, while the forward cabin offers privacy for another couple.
The U-shaped galleyonboard the Hunter 33 includes a Corian®
countertop, two-burner range, icebox and deep sink. The Hunter 33's
salon offers expansive seating, a drop-down table and a navigation
station. An easy-maintenance fiberglass head wraps up the outstanding
Hunter 33 package

http://www.huntermarine.com/Models/33/33Index.html


http://www.huntermarine.com/Differen...enceIndex.html


You can only wish you could own something like this.





I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.


Looks like Home Depot basement paneling....

http://www.huntermarine.com/Models/27/27Index.html

katy September 8th 07 01:31 AM

Doug's World, Excellent!
 
Bloody Horvath wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:41:04 -0400, katy
wrote this crap:


You have to be kidding! The interior is all teak. The storage areas
are cedar lined.


You had it custom designed? Hunters I;ve seen have all been plastic....


No...there's a Hunter cattywumpus across from our boat and another 2
slips down...both are pretty plastic-y inside...some wood trim, but not
much...and they're newer boats..I would say late 90's....




You lie. Here's what the interior looks like.

http://www.huntermarine.com/Models/33/33Index.html


You wish for something this nice. Now stop lying. And go back to
Chicago.




I'm Horvath and I approve of this post.

http://www.boatboss.com/boats/-2/pos...nter_34_5.html

katy September 8th 07 01:33 AM

Doug's World, Excellent!
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
Katy, the newer Hunters, like the 33 I have up on Yachtworld, are
worlds better and nicer than boats from the 90's. I believe that they
are committed to taking more market share from Catalina and Beneteau.



RB
35s5
NY

Getting to be that in all but the larger models that there isn't much
difference anyway...Beneteau loward its standards in a lot of tis boats
and Catalinas have been sinking for a long time...wouldn't take much for
Hunter to catch up seeing as how the others have lowered the ceiling...

katy September 8th 07 01:34 AM

Doug's World, Excellent!
 
wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 23:53:50 -0000, "Capt. Rob" wrote:


Katy, the newer Hunters, like the 33 I have up on Yachtworld, are
worlds better and nicer than boats from the 90's. I believe that they
are committed to taking more market share from Catalina and Beneteau.



RB
35s5
NY



They are still ugly. Not just a little ugly, either. Even an old **** yellow
Coronado has more appealing lines. How sad is that?



I wouldn't go that far....there are some decent looking
Hunters...depends on the model but they still all have cheap looking
interiors... and a whole lot of plastic going on....

Scotty September 8th 07 02:07 AM

Doug's World, Excellent!
 

"Bloody Horvath" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Sep 2007 20:48:47 -0700, "Capt. JG"


wrote this crap:


I do like the swim platforms on Hunter's...just don't

like some of the
other features...way too much plastic on the

interior...


Does this look like too much plastic?

http://www.hunternarine.com/Models/33/33Index.html


yes!

Did Roger MacGregor design that interior?

SBV








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