''Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat
it''



Remembering it and living under it's shadow are two different things.


RB
35s5
NY

see?


"Commrade **** Head" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
''Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to
repeat
it''



Remembering it and living under it's shadow are two
different things.


RB
35s5
NY

On Aug 27, 4:57 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
That and it's on an automobile that is made by a company that had a
hand in killing scores of Americans less than 65 years ago. .

Subaru, Toyota, Mitisubshi all used captured American POW's as
slaves, beating and killing many.

The world will never heal and bigotry will remain if we allow history
to govern our lives. History should teach, not enforce grudges built
on long dead political evils.

It is not political, it is about humanity. Out of respect for my
fellow Americans that endured the inhumane treatment, and the ones
that were murdered I will not buy Japanese products.

If Japan admits all of it's crimes and asks us for forgiveness. Then
maybe we can more forward.

But hey that will never happen, that attitude is what made them in-
humane and act the way they did to start with.



My wife's great grandfather fought against the USA. What does that
have to do with her, me or anything?

Guess that depends. Was he a person who murdered captured POW's?


Subaru is one of the finest US
companies around and treats workers far better than Ford or GM.

It's a Jap company.

They
also make better cars than the US builders can't match. If I buy an
American car all I'm doing is extending a losing proposition; the
continuing sale of inferior products in a world market. The big three
can build the best cars in the world, but they won't ever do it if
people give them any support.

Your opinion, and you have that right..as lame as it is.


I don't hold people accountable for what their anscestory was up to.

I do not either. Many on the board of directors at Subaru were WWII
vets.

If I did I probably would live in a trailer like Scotty. And a company
identity is about today and last year, not 65 years ago.

Wrong..good or bad a companies history goes to it's roots and actions
and the people who ran it.

Joe


If the US
builds a car as good as my Sedona or LGT Turbo I'll happily buy one,
even if it's a bit more expensive. I'm just waiting for that to
happen.

RB
35s5
NY

The Boobster says he doesn't live in the past but the stuff he puts
forth regarding American cars clearly places him in the past.
American cars in 2007 are quality products as good as their Jap
competition. By the way Corvettes stopped rattling "after a year"
years ago. Everyone knows that story has become an old wives tale
these days. As far as cars from overseas goes try buying what is
considered the finest. My neighbor has a E series MB. It's now out
of warrenty. Every trip to the dealer for service costs him $1,000.
Wiper blades are $60! And you can't get them at the local parts
store. Or how about a BMW? There great cars right. Do a check on
service recalls on those babies. Count how many per model per year.
As far as the Boobs kiddy car goes he was just caught up in the 0-60
time per dollar advertising plus he wanted to be admired by the
teenage skanks he cruises for.

35s5 .......... PHRF 'C' speed in a PHRF 'B' body.

The Boobster says he doesn't live in the past but the stuff he puts
forth regarding American cars clearly places him in the past.
American cars in 2007 are quality products as good as their Jap
competition.


What a laugh! Hey, trailer trashy, do you even drive US built cars?
Ever drive a Ford Focus, Jeep Liberty or Lincoln Navigator? Ever
notice how those cars have switch-gear that gets stuck in the dash?
Ever check the average longevity of a Chrysler mini van vs. a Toyota?
Oh, and I know someone with a new Vette. FAST car, but the rattles
continue. And for anyone who thinks Sloco has a clue, please check the
Motor Trend Vette forums where HALF of the late model owners complain
about squeaks and rattles.
The wives tale that US cars have about equaled overseas models was
printed by some papers and so on. I don't know any enthusiasts who
agree with it. What can you expect from a guy like Sloco? Has he ever
driven an STI, LGT or BMW 335? Of course not. He lives in a bubble of
ignorance. He thinks improved reliability makes these cars a match for
a Subaru or a BMW? Is he kidding? US car makers can't make ANYTHING as
refined or simply as nice as a Subaru or BMW. Anyone who's driven a
2007 Navigator vs. a BMW X5 knows what I mean. And......

If you care about things like refined usage of fuel....the average of
the top five MPG American cars gets 27.4 mpg in the city and 33.2 mpg
on the highway, while the average of the top five Japanese cars get
46.2 mpg in the city and 49 mpg on the highway. This equates to 68%
better gas mileage in the city and 48% better gas mileage on the
highway for Japanese cars. My LGT that does 0-60 in 5.2 seconds uses
less gas than a Chevy Cobalt!
Come to think of it....in the last 11 days I sailed J29, Santana 30/30
and the 35s5....all faster than Sloco's water-dragging Express-O-
Snail!!!!


RB
35s5
NY

I seriously suggest you take an honest look at American cars......




He's not going to, Ozzy. The US builders are such a mess it almost
boggles the mind. Imagine that the Japanese companies perfected the
economy car and brought it to a level no one could have imagined. The
US builders STILL can't match it. Then Korean companies come here and
do the same thing, still with no solid answer from the US builders.
Then companies like Subaru and Honda refine small chassis designs even
further and make fun cars out of them. A lot of people are correctly
impressed with an STI over the Vette because the STI does so much more
with it's AWD system. You can bet the new Evo will be a killer as
well. The Vette is a danger in anything but smooth dry driving.
There's always some tool like poor Sloco who thinks his Lincoln is a
match for a BMW. Why? Cuz he read it. I've driven a 330 XI and 335 XI
and the only reason to look at a Lincoln would be to save money. And
you'd lose it on resale!
The American car companies have no answer at all to my AWD LGT Turbo.
No response to cars like a 5 series. And when Pontiac comes out with
their all out effort to dethrone the Miata with the Solstice & Saturn
Sky....they fail. Then Mazda slams the door harder with the power
hardtop version. In spite of Inventing the Minivan, the Chrysler
models are the worst on the market while a newer entry from Kia ranks
#1 or #2 on most lists. Even VW has an amazing transmission in thier
slick hardtop convirtible. And then there's my neighbor who just sold
his Dodge truck and bought the Honda Ridgeline. He says it's like
going from a covered wagon to a starship.
Of course anyone with eyes and time behind the wheel of the latest
cars knows this. Even as US car makers improve reliability, they are
far far behind in every other respect.
People like Sloco look at something nice, like a 330 XI and say,
"Okay, what will seem almost as nice for less?" And then they lay down
their money like chumps and claim it's about being patriotic! A chump
is a chump and that's exactly what Sloco is.

The USA can't even design a good TOY car! Powerwheels ride-ons have NO
disc brakes, NO rack & pinion steering, low torque and miserable
battery life. Thomas drives a Pen Perego Gaucho Superpower, the only
24 volt model on the market. It's bigger, faster and safer by a mile.
I suppose Sloco would buy the 200 dollar powerwheels at Target and
think that's fine. I wonder if Target will be selling US cars soon?



RB
35s5
NY

Capt. Rob wrote:
I seriously suggest you take an honest look at American cars......




He's not going to, Ozzy. The US builders are such a mess it almost
boggles the mind.
RB
35s5
NY

Only one solution...get rid of the unions....problem is, when whoever
tells the designers to design a car, the designers are constrained by
cost...when the majority of the cost is sucked up into union inflated
wages, then you're not going to get a quality car because that's not
where the effort is...

"Commrade **** Head" wrote in message
ups.com...
I

The USA can't even design a good TOY car! Powerwheels
ride-ons have NO
disc brakes, NO rack & pinion steering, low torque and
miserable
battery life. Thomas drives a Pen Perego Gaucho
Superpower, the only
24 volt model on the market. It's bigger, faster and safer
by a mile.
I suppose Sloco would buy the 200 dollar powerwheels at
Target and
think that's fine. I wonder if Target will be selling US
cars soon?


it's nice that your teaching him how to be an
environmentally unfriendly, lazy slob at such an early age.

SBV

I've driven a 330 and the impression I was left with was WOW a nice
Accord. Oh, and it couldn't get out of it's own way. Tell us Boobie
why do more and more reviewers state a BMW is NOT A GOOD VALUE.

Come to think of it....in the last 11 days I sailed J29,
Santana 30/30
and the 35s5....all faster than Sloco's water-dragging Express-O-
Snail!!!!

In the case of the J29 & 30/30 they are supposed to be faster. They
weigh 2,000 less. The 35s5 isn't faster because it's sailed by
incompetents. That's been proven by the race results all over the
web.