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Would it not have been smarter to cut the sail where it clears the
rails?

I see this all the time, sail all crunched up on the rails. IIRC even
Robs head sail is cut this way.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...35s5/Week1.jpg

Even looks bad. Somethings got to go..

Joe

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I see this all the time, sail all crunched up on the rails. IIRC even
Robs head sail is cut this way.



A higher cut can clear the rail, but you lose effective sail area on
some tacks and the sail is less useful off the wind in many cases
(less of an issue for Hunters, some fractionals and of course Freedom
boats!) Look at this pic for an example....

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...5/HeartNEW.jpg

This is just before a tack, so you can't really see the sail properly
trimmed, but I think you can see it's a somewhat high cut. It's a 125%
sail. It still catches the rail on some positions and hard on the
wind it may need help coming inboard. The higher cut on a fractional
loses downwind ability and puts the COE up, also effecting balance. I
have a new standard cut 155% coming Thursday that will certainly liven
up the ride well off the wind. It's a deck sweeper and my furler is
below deck.
Hey, you can cut a sail for performance, ease of use...or a little of
both if you're just out there to have fun. I'm pretty happy with my
sails. We've had the chance to sail with a lot of boats and Heart of
Gold is usually the faster boat. She stayed in there with the Santana
and a J30 and on a reach a J40 wasn't going anywhere either.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Would it not have been smarter to cut the sail where it clears the
rails?

I see this all the time, sail all crunched up on the rails. IIRC even
Robs head sail is cut this way.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...35s5/Week1.jpg

Even looks bad. Somethings got to go..

Joe



It's an issue a lot. Even on the small lake, the slightly faster boat (the
boats are identical except for lifelines) is the one without the lifelines -
better sail shape. It's typically a very light-wind lake. I see this on the
bay a lot also, although the sails people fly are typically smaller (there's
always some fool running a 130 up wind - well trying).

When I first converted from a hank-on jib to a furler, I was thinking about
getting a 130 with luff tape, but then discovered I had a furler-ready jib
(actually, the previous owner gave it to me). It needed minor modification
to fit the new luff length. He hadn't used it, since the furler he had broke
soon after he bought the boat and he didn't have the cash to replace it, so
he used the hanked sail. The furling sail I now use has a very high foot,
which isn't super great for downwind in light air, but when the heck to we
every get light air out here?! (and I have a drifter just in case). It's
perfect, however, for 20-30 kts air without reefing it. I have three reef
points in my main, so that isn't an issue either, although the third one
doesn't have the lines led.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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On Aug 20, 5:32 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 06:55:58 -0700, Joe
scribbled thusly:

Would it not have been smarter to cut the sail where it clears the
rails?

I see this all the time, sail all crunched up on the rails. IIRC even
Robs head sail is cut this way.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...35s5/Week1.jpg

Even looks bad. Somethings got to go..

Joe

And sacrifice sail when close hauled?

I would think a properly shaped sail on all points would be the best
all around.
I can see the chaffing taking place clearly.

Is that wrong OZ?

Joe

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OzOne wrote:
And sacrifice sail when close hauled?

Everything's a compromise.


Joe wrote:
I would think a properly shaped sail on all points would be the best
all around.

Depends on what you mean by "best."
A genoa with a high-cut foot to clear the bow pulpit & lifelines will
be slower on alll points, less sail area and poor flow around the
foot. Better visibility & less chafe, though. You have to make up your
mind what you want.


I can see the chaffing taking place clearly.


Well, you can avoid that by keeping the sail nice & safe in it's bag.


Is that wrong OZ?


It's only WRONG to think that the loss of speed isn't much (it is) or
that anybody who doesn't have the same priorities as yourself is a
fool.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

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On Aug 21, 8:32 am, wrote:
OzOne wrote:
And sacrifice sail when close hauled?

Everything's a compromise.

Joe wrote:
I would think a properly shaped sail on all points would be the best
all around.

Depends on what you mean by "best."

Best all around Doug. Is that too hard a concept for you to envision?

Best means the best shape, and best care, and best preformance. Are
you telling me a crunched up sail dragging the lifelines has good flow
around the foot?



A genoa with a high-cut foot to clear the bow pulpit & lifelines will
be slower on alll points, less sail area and poor flow around the
foot. Better visibility & less chafe, though. You have to make up your
mind what you want.

I can see the chaffing taking place clearly.

Well, you can avoid that by keeping the sail nice & safe in it's bag.

Hey.... for all I care about your sails, you can drag them across a
parking lot, use 40 grit sandpaper to clean them, and fly them where
they always rub everything and are out of the proper shape.


Is that wrong OZ?

It's only WRONG to think that the loss of speed isn't much (it is) or
that anybody who doesn't have the same priorities as yourself is a
fool.


If you are happy with a sail crunched up over a hand rail and or
lifelines feel free to partake. Oh I forgot...you do not have a
sailboat do you?

Joe

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Joe wrote:
On Aug 21, 8:32 am, wrote:

OzOne wrote:

And sacrifice sail when close hauled?

Everything's a compromise.

Joe wrote:

I would think a properly shaped sail on all points would be the best
all around.

Depends on what you mean by "best."


Best all around Doug. Is that too hard a concept for you to envision?

Best means the best shape, and best care, and best preformance. Are
you telling me a crunched up sail dragging the lifelines has good flow
around the foot?




A genoa with a high-cut foot to clear the bow pulpit & lifelines will
be slower on alll points, less sail area and poor flow around the
foot. Better visibility & less chafe, though. You have to make up your
mind what you want.


I can see the chaffing taking place clearly.

Well, you can avoid that by keeping the sail nice & safe in it's bag.


Hey.... for all I care about your sails, you can drag them across a
parking lot, use 40 grit sandpaper to clean them, and fly them where
they always rub everything and are out of the proper shape.



Is that wrong OZ?

It's only WRONG to think that the loss of speed isn't much (it is) or
that anybody who doesn't have the same priorities as yourself is a
fool.



If you are happy with a sail crunched up over a hand rail and or
lifelines feel free to partake. Oh I forgot...you do not have a
sailboat do you?

Joe

For Pete's sake, if it bothers you so much you can always drop the
lifelines down to the base of the bow pulpit..many people do that...we
have chafe guards on our lines..little round whellie things that the
sail rides over to keep it from chafing...our sail is a deck
sweeper...having it cut up over the top of the lifelines would mean an
incredible loss of sail area...so it's a tad unsightly, so what? Beats
losing speed...

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On Aug 21, 9:48 am, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Aug 21, 8:32 am, wrote:

OzOne wrote:

And sacrifice sail when close hauled?

Everything's a compromise.

Joe wrote:

I would think a properly shaped sail on all points would be the best
all around.

Depends on what you mean by "best."

Best all around Doug. Is that too hard a concept for you to envision?

Best means the best shape, and best care, and best preformance. Are
you telling me a crunched up sail dragging the lifelines has good flow
around the foot?

A genoa with a high-cut foot to clear the bow pulpit & lifelines will
be slower on alll points, less sail area and poor flow around the
foot. Better visibility & less chafe, though. You have to make up your
mind what you want.

I can see the chaffing taking place clearly.

Well, you can avoid that by keeping the sail nice & safe in it's bag.

Hey.... for all I care about your sails, you can drag them across a
parking lot, use 40 grit sandpaper to clean them, and fly them where
they always rub everything and are out of the proper shape.

Is that wrong OZ?

It's only WRONG to think that the loss of speed isn't much (it is) or
that anybody who doesn't have the same priorities as yourself is a
fool.

If you are happy with a sail crunched up over a hand rail and or
lifelines feel free to partake. Oh I forgot...you do not have a
sailboat do you?

Joe

For Pete's sake, if it bothers you so much you can always drop the
lifelines down to the base of the bow pulpit..many people do that...we
have chafe guards on our lines..little round whellie things that the
sail rides over to keep it from chafing...our sail is a deck
sweeper...having it cut up over the top of the lifelines would mean an
incredible loss of sail area...so it's a tad unsightly, so what? Beats
losing speed...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Drop the life lines forward? Do they toss the lifejackets and liferaft
over too?

Why not go with a bigger % forward sail to make up for the loss.
Tad unsightly, so what? What is that the crunched up sail is not going
to have a good flow at the foot as Doug claims.

Joe

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Aug 21, 9:48 am, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Aug 21, 8:32 am, wrote:

OzOne wrote:

And sacrifice sail when close hauled?

Everything's a compromise.

Joe wrote:

I would think a properly shaped sail on all points would be the best
all around.

Depends on what you mean by "best."

Best all around Doug. Is that too hard a concept for you to envision?

Best means the best shape, and best care, and best preformance. Are
you telling me a crunched up sail dragging the lifelines has good flow
around the foot?

A genoa with a high-cut foot to clear the bow pulpit & lifelines will
be slower on alll points, less sail area and poor flow around the
foot. Better visibility & less chafe, though. You have to make up your
mind what you want.

I can see the chaffing taking place clearly.

Well, you can avoid that by keeping the sail nice & safe in it's bag.

Hey.... for all I care about your sails, you can drag them across a
parking lot, use 40 grit sandpaper to clean them, and fly them where
they always rub everything and are out of the proper shape.

Is that wrong OZ?

It's only WRONG to think that the loss of speed isn't much (it is) or
that anybody who doesn't have the same priorities as yourself is a
fool.

If you are happy with a sail crunched up over a hand rail and or
lifelines feel free to partake. Oh I forgot...you do not have a
sailboat do you?

Joe

For Pete's sake, if it bothers you so much you can always drop the
lifelines down to the base of the bow pulpit..many people do that...we
have chafe guards on our lines..little round whellie things that the
sail rides over to keep it from chafing...our sail is a deck
sweeper...having it cut up over the top of the lifelines would mean an
incredible loss of sail area...so it's a tad unsightly, so what? Beats
losing speed...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Drop the life lines forward? Do they toss the lifejackets and liferaft
over too?

Why not go with a bigger % forward sail to make up for the loss.
Tad unsightly, so what? What is that the crunched up sail is not going
to have a good flow at the foot as Doug claims.

Joe

We had a Catalina 27 a few years ago that had the lifelines dropped at the
pulpit. Dumb idea. That's one of the places where they can help you. We had
them re-run. You don't have to worry about lifejackets on Bob's boat
though... he and his guests don't use them...

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Aug 21, 9:48 am, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Aug 21, 8:32 am, wrote:

OzOne wrote:

And sacrifice sail when close hauled?

Everything's a compromise.

Joe wrote:

I would think a properly shaped sail on all points would be the
best
all around.

Depends on what you mean by "best."

Best all around Doug. Is that too hard a concept for you to
envision?

Best means the best shape, and best care, and best preformance. Are
you telling me a crunched up sail dragging the lifelines has good
flow
around the foot?

A genoa with a high-cut foot to clear the bow pulpit & lifelines
will
be slower on alll points, less sail area and poor flow around the
foot. Better visibility & less chafe, though. You have to make up
your
mind what you want.

I can see the chaffing taking place clearly.

Well, you can avoid that by keeping the sail nice & safe in it's
bag.

Hey.... for all I care about your sails, you can drag them across a
parking lot, use 40 grit sandpaper to clean them, and fly them
where
they always rub everything and are out of the proper shape.

Is that wrong OZ?

It's only WRONG to think that the loss of speed isn't much (it is)
or
that anybody who doesn't have the same priorities as yourself is a
fool.

If you are happy with a sail crunched up over a hand rail and or
lifelines feel free to partake. Oh I forgot...you do not have a
sailboat do you?

Joe

For Pete's sake, if it bothers you so much you can always drop the
lifelines down to the base of the bow pulpit..many people do
that...we
have chafe guards on our lines..little round whellie things that the
sail rides over to keep it from chafing...our sail is a deck
sweeper...having it cut up over the top of the lifelines would mean
an
incredible loss of sail area...so it's a tad unsightly, so what?
Beats
losing speed...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Drop the life lines forward? Do they toss the lifejackets and liferaft
over too?

Why not go with a bigger % forward sail to make up for the loss.
Tad unsightly, so what? What is that the crunched up sail is not going
to have a good flow at the foot as Doug claims.

Joe


You are correct Joe. For best performance you need a deck-sweeping
genny. The vortex along the foot is controlled so drag is lessened. Put
a clear vinyl window in the foot of the sail if you're concerned about
seeing where you're going. But don't have your genny draped over the
life lines. Get them out of the way. Neglecting to do this is typical of
sailors who don't have a clue. Bobsprit hasn't learned a thing about
sailing. He's too busy playing day-care center administrator.

Wilbur Hubbard

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Joe wrote:


For Pete's sake, if it bothers you so much you can always drop the
lifelines down to the base of the bow pulpit..many people do that...we
have chafe guards on our lines..little round whellie things that the
sail rides over to keep it from chafing...our sail is a deck
sweeper...having it cut up over the top of the lifelines would mean an
incredible loss of sail area...so it's a tad unsightly, so what? Beats
losing speed...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Drop the life lines forward?

They're still there.. they just run at a slant from the first set of
stanchions to the bottom of the bow pulpit...they are still functional...
Do they toss the lifejackets and liferaft
over too?

You got the wrong picture in your mind...

Why not go with a bigger % forward sail to make up for the loss.

We have a 140....don't have any use for anything larger than that...we
have a light displacement boat and do not sail on head sail
alone..that's not the way our boat is balanced...

Tad unsightly, so what? What is that the crunched up sail is not going
to have a good flow at the foot as Doug claims.

It's not crunched up...it's just a bit crooked....

Joe

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:


For Pete's sake, if it bothers you so much you can always drop the
lifelines down to the base of the bow pulpit..many people do
that...we
have chafe guards on our lines..little round whellie things that the
sail rides over to keep it from chafing...our sail is a deck
sweeper...having it cut up over the top of the lifelines would mean
an
incredible loss of sail area...so it's a tad unsightly, so what?
Beats
losing speed...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Drop the life lines forward?

They're still there.. they just run at a slant from the first set of
stanchions to the bottom of the bow pulpit...they are still
functional...
Do they toss the lifejackets and liferaft
over too?

You got the wrong picture in your mind...

Why not go with a bigger % forward sail to make up for the loss.

We have a 140....don't have any use for anything larger than that...we
have a light displacement boat and do not sail on head sail
alone..that's not the way our boat is balanced...

Tad unsightly, so what? What is that the crunched up sail is not
going
to have a good flow at the foot as Doug claims.

It's not crunched up...it's just a bit crooked....

It should never be crunched up or crooked. The foot should run fair.
Have a look at how a real sailor does it.
http://captneal.homestead.com/Thumbsup.html Pay particular attention to
the "close-hauled" picture. Note how the sail sweeps the foredeck and
how the lifelines angle down to the base of the pulpit so there is no
interaction with the sail.

I hope this helps.

Wilbur Hubbard

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Joe wrote:
I would think a properly shaped sail on all points would be the best
all around.

Depends on what you mean by "best."

Best all around Doug. Is that too hard a concept for you to envision?


Oh sure, no prob.
Like, it's very easy to have a car that's the "best all around" the
fastest, most powerful, best gas mileage, most comfortable... it's so
easy, people who don't have cars like that must be friggin' stupid....



Best means the best shape, and best care, and best preformance. Are
you telling me a crunched up sail dragging the lifelines has good flow
around the foot?


Better than one that is cut 2' above the deck. Plus more sail area.




If you are happy with a sail crunched up over a hand rail and or
lifelines feel free to partake. Oh I forgot...you do not have a
sailboat do you?


Not at the moment. However I have owned more different kinds of boats
than you've sailed in your life, and sailed more than you've ever
heard of. Currently I am out cruising... and you?

DSK

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On Aug 21, 12:43 pm, wrote:
Joe wrote:
I would think a properly shaped sail on all points would be the best
all around.

Depends on what you mean by "best."

Best all around Doug. Is that too hard a concept for you to envision?

Oh sure, no prob.
Like, it's very easy to have a car that's the "best all around" the
fastest, most powerful, best gas mileage, most comfortable... it's so
easy, people who don't have cars like that must be friggin' stupid....

Best means the best shape, and best care, and best preformance. Are
you telling me a crunched up sail dragging the lifelines has good flow
around the foot?

Better than one that is cut 2' above the deck. Plus more sail area.



If you are happy with a sail crunched up over a hand rail and or
lifelines feel free to partake. Oh I forgot...you do not have a
sailboat do you?

Not at the moment. However I have owned more different kinds of boats
than you've sailed in your life, and sailed more than you've ever
heard of. Currently I am out cruising... and you?

DSK

Training crew every Thursday night now. Will be voyaging before years
end. Open deep water...and you?

Joe

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Joe wrote:
Training crew every Thursday night now.

To do what?

Will be voyaging before years
end.

OK, in that case you'll be a year behind us.

Open deep water...and you?


Having a great time, thanks.

Sailing across oceans is boring, 99.999% of the time... unless you're
racing... and the exciting bit is usually due more to bad planning and
poor preparation than anything else. However, if you feel the need to
brag about sailing across oceans, go ahead. Oh wait, you haven't done
it yet... well I have, and am more interested in playing around the
edges.

DSK

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On Aug 21, 12:35 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
"katy" wrote in message

...



Joe wrote:

For Pete's sake, if it bothers you so much you can always drop the
lifelines down to the base of the bow pulpit..many people do
that...we
have chafe guards on our lines..little round whellie things that the
sail rides over to keep it from chafing...our sail is a deck
sweeper...having it cut up over the top of the lifelines would mean
an
incredible loss of sail area...so it's a tad unsightly, so what?
Beats
losing speed...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Drop the life lines forward?

They're still there.. they just run at a slant from the first set of
stanchions to the bottom of the bow pulpit...they are still
functional...
Do they toss the lifejackets and liferaft
over too?

You got the wrong picture in your mind...

Why not go with a bigger % forward sail to make up for the loss.

We have a 140....don't have any use for anything larger than that...we
have a light displacement boat and do not sail on head sail
alone..that's not the way our boat is balanced...

Tad unsightly, so what? What is that the crunched up sail is not
going
to have a good flow at the foot as Doug claims.

It's not crunched up...it's just a bit crooked....

It should never be crunched up or crooked. The foot should run fair.
Have a look at how a real sailor does it.http://captneal.homestead.com/Thumbsup.html Pay particular attention to
the "close-hauled" picture. Note how the sail sweeps the foredeck and
how the lifelines angle down to the base of the pulpit so there is no
interaction with the sail.

I hope this helps.

Wilbur Hubbard

Nice Solar panels! Well done.

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On Aug 20, 9:55 am, Joe wrote:
Would it not have been smarter to cut the sail where it clears the
rails?

I see this all the time, sail all crunched up on the rails. IIRC even
Robs head sail is cut this way.

http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/a...35s5/Week1.jpg

Even looks bad. Somethings got to go..

Joe

You just need to send someone forward to skirt the
sail for you.

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Hey, Joe.

Doug's tone in this group has become decidedly bitter. Don't take
offence at it. Consider that you have what he doesn't: A woman who's
willing to SAIL with him. Doug's wife forced him into a POWERBOAT and
that's a fact. His comment about boring ocean sailing is hilarious.
While I certainly would make no claims about such endeavours, I do
know people who do it all the time. In fact the white haired fellow in
one of my vids does crossings every other year. He does it for the
love of sailing and the sea. I guess if it bored him he'd buy a
powerboat or let his lady lay out the terms of his sailing life for
him.
Sails do take some abuse at the bow and my gals are quick to run up
and free a sail hung on the line. A higher cut just gives up too much
for these types of boats. My new deck sweeping triradial will be here
in a day or two and it will behave the same way, though at 155% I
really bought it for light air reaching.
Trust me. All this talk about sailing rubs Doug the wrong way and it
shows with every one of his arrogant posts.


Cheers,


RB
35s5
NY

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On Aug 21, 2:02 pm, wrote:
Joe wrote:
Training crew every Thursday night now.

To do what?

Sail and stuff.

Will be voyaging before years
end.

OK, in that case you'll be a year behind us.

Open deep water...and you?

Having a great time, thanks.

Sailing across oceans is boring, 99.999% of the time... unless you're
racing... and the exciting bit is usually due more to bad planning and
poor preparation than anything else. However, if you feel the need to
brag about sailing across oceans, go ahead. Oh wait, you haven't done
it yet... well I have, and am more interested in playing around the
edges.

DSK

Been across the atlantic, pacific, indian, south china, north sea,glf
ect..ect..
Beats the ditch any day.

Joe

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Joe wrote:
On Aug 21, 2:02 pm, wrote:

Joe wrote:

Training crew every Thursday night now.

To do what?


Sail and stuff.

Will be voyaging before years
end.

OK, in that case you'll be a year behind us.


Open deep water...and you?

Having a great time, thanks.

Sailing across oceans is boring, 99.999% of the time... unless you're
racing... and the exciting bit is usually due more to bad planning and
poor preparation than anything else. However, if you feel the need to
brag about sailing across oceans, go ahead. Oh wait, you haven't done
it yet... well I have, and am more interested in playing around the
edges.

DSK


Been across the atlantic, pacific, indian, south china, north sea,glf
ect..ect..
Beats the ditch any day.

Joe

He isn't in the ditch....

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
On Aug 21, 8:32 am, wrote:
For Pete's sake, if it bothers you so much you can
always drop the
lifelines down to the base of the bow pulpit..many people
do that...we
have chafe guards on our lines..little round whellie
things that the
sail rides over to keep it from chafing...our sail is a
deck
sweeper...having it cut up over the top of the lifelines
would mean an
incredible loss of sail area...so it's a tad unsightly, so
what? Beats
losing speed...


speed? what would you lose, 1/8 kt? Maybe get to the
anchorage 6 minutes later?

Scotty

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speed...

speed? what would you lose, 1/8 kt?



Spoken just like an idiot who doesn't sail. You'd lose more than 1/8
knot and also speed on all points, close hauled ability and so on.
Start that engine, Scotty.
Oh, that's right. You're not sailing again this year!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHHA!


RB
35s5
NY

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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
message
anews.com.
...


It should never be crunched up or crooked. The foot
should run fair.
Have a look at how a real sailor does it.
http://captneal.homestead.com/Thumbsup.html


owwww my eyes! Damn that's an ugly boat.



Scotty

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Aug 21, 8:32 am, wrote:
OzOne wrote:
And sacrifice sail when close hauled?

Everything's a compromise.

Joe wrote:
I would think a properly shaped sail on all points
would be the best
all around.

Depends on what you mean by "best."

Best all around Doug. Is that too hard a concept for you
to envision?

Best means the best shape, and best care, and best
preformance.

best for your vision, best for tacking?

S

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
speed...

speed? what would you lose, 1/8 kt?




Oh, that's right. You're not sailing again this year!!!


Oh, really?

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Scotty wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Joe wrote:

On Aug 21, 8:32 am, wrote:

For Pete's sake, if it bothers you so much you can

always drop the

lifelines down to the base of the bow pulpit..many people

do that...we

have chafe guards on our lines..little round whellie

things that the

sail rides over to keep it from chafing...our sail is a

deck

sweeper...having it cut up over the top of the lifelines

would mean an

incredible loss of sail area...so it's a tad unsightly, so

what? Beats

losing speed...



speed? what would you lose, 1/8 kt? Maybe get to the
anchorage 6 minutes later?

Scotty



6 minutes is 6 minutes when you're out battling the forces of OPB's...Mr
Sails unofficially pits our boat against others out there to see what
the max for the day is....hey...it's his game...he likes it...I just
tweak when things need to be tweaked...

Rob's friends sail cut
 

owwww my eyes! Damn that's an ugly boat.



At least it's sailing. Yours is on jack stands!


RB
35s5
NY

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On Aug 21, 9:38 pm, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Aug 21, 2:02 pm, wrote:

Joe wrote:

Training crew every Thursday night now.

To do what?

Sail and stuff.

Will be voyaging before years
end.

OK, in that case you'll be a year behind us.

Open deep water...and you?

Having a great time, thanks.

Sailing across oceans is boring, 99.999% of the time... unless you're
racing... and the exciting bit is usually due more to bad planning and
poor preparation than anything else. However, if you feel the need to
brag about sailing across oceans, go ahead. Oh wait, you haven't done
it yet... well I have, and am more interested in playing around the
edges.

DSK

Been across the atlantic, pacific, indian, south china, north sea,glf
ect..ect..
Beats the ditch any day.

Joe

He isn't in the ditch....- Hide quoted text -

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oh...beats puddle jumping.

Joe

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Joe wrote:
On Aug 21, 9:38 pm, katy wrote:

Joe wrote:

On Aug 21, 2:02 pm, wrote:

Joe wrote:

Training crew every Thursday night now.

To do what?

Sail and stuff.

Will be voyaging before years
end.

OK, in that case you'll be a year behind us.

Open deep water...and you?

Having a great time, thanks.

Sailing across oceans is boring, 99.999% of the time... unless you're
racing... and the exciting bit is usually due more to bad planning and
poor preparation than anything else. However, if you feel the need to
brag about sailing across oceans, go ahead. Oh wait, you haven't done
it yet... well I have, and am more interested in playing around the
edges.

DSK

Been across the atlantic, pacific, indian, south china, north sea,glf
ect..ect..
Beats the ditch any day.

Joe

He isn't in the ditch....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


oh...beats puddle jumping.

Joe

You've obviously never done it...

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On Aug 22, 9:28 am, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Aug 21, 9:38 pm, katy wrote:

Joe wrote:

On Aug 21, 2:02 pm, wrote:

Joe wrote:

Training crew every Thursday night now.

To do what?

Sail and stuff.

Will be voyaging before years
end.

OK, in that case you'll be a year behind us.

Open deep water...and you?

Having a great time, thanks.

Sailing across oceans is boring, 99.999% of the time... unless you're
racing... and the exciting bit is usually due more to bad planning and
poor preparation than anything else. However, if you feel the need to
brag about sailing across oceans, go ahead. Oh wait, you haven't done
it yet... well I have, and am more interested in playing around the
edges.

DSK

Been across the atlantic, pacific, indian, south china, north sea,glf
ect..ect..
Beats the ditch any day.

Joe

He isn't in the ditch....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

oh...beats puddle jumping.

Joe

You've obviously never done it...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Wrong...use to water ski on lake Benbrook as a kid.

Joe

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Joe wrote:
On Aug 22, 9:28 am, katy wrote:

Joe wrote:

On Aug 21, 9:38 pm, katy wrote:

Joe wrote:

On Aug 21, 2:02 pm, wrote:

Joe wrote:

Training crew every Thursday night now.

To do what?

Sail and stuff.

Will be voyaging before years
end.

OK, in that case you'll be a year behind us.

Open deep water...and you?

Having a great time, thanks.

Sailing across oceans is boring, 99.999% of the time... unless you're
racing... and the exciting bit is usually due more to bad planning and
poor preparation than anything else. However, if you feel the need to
brag about sailing across oceans, go ahead. Oh wait, you haven't done
it yet... well I have, and am more interested in playing around the
edges.

DSK

Been across the atlantic, pacific, indian, south china, north sea,glf
ect..ect..
Beats the ditch any day.

Joe

He isn't in the ditch....- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

oh...beats puddle jumping.

Joe

You've obviously never done it...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Wrong...use to water ski on lake Benbrook as a kid.

Joe


Hardly what I'm talking about...

Rob's friends sail cut
 

I don't get the knock on the sail by the original poster. The sail in
question just looks like a #2 and the boat is close reaching.

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Ringmaster wrote:
I don't get the knock on the sail by the original poster. The sail in
question just looks like a #2 and the boat is close reaching.

You know,,,there has to be SOMETHING to knock...after all, this IS ASA....

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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owwww my eyes! Damn that's an ugly boat.



At least it's sailing. Yours is on jack stands!

it is? really?