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Scout July 22nd 07 05:08 PM

moment of zen
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EsXSzXpE3w



Capt. JG July 22nd 07 06:24 PM

moment of zen
 
"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EsXSzXpE3w




Ah... they are fantastic when they happen... I was sailing on my boat,
tacking up Raccoon Straight last year, and fell into the zen zone. It lasted
through the five or so tacks, with me sitting on the low side, some
customers sitting on the high side enjoying the ride and keeping watch for
me. My hand was in the water or close on each tack. The boat was perfectly
balanced and the people were mostly quiet with an occasional, "there's a
boat." Probably the "moment" lasted 20 minutes, but the feeling kept with
all of us the rest of the day.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




[email protected] July 24th 07 01:22 AM

moment of zen
 
"Scout" wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EsXSzXpE3w


Very nice. The benefits of shallow draft are amazing, eh?

BTW we had a not-so-excellent adventure in Great Bay
http://dnkcruising.blogspot.com/2007...ersey-icw.html

On the whole it's been a great trip and perhaps we should have done
more of the "inside route" in Jersey. However we will be back!

BTW do you stow the mast-raising pole on board?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Scout July 24th 07 06:35 AM

moment of zen
 
wrote in message
ps.com...
"Scout" wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EsXSzXpE3w


Very nice. The benefits of shallow draft are amazing, eh?

BTW we had a not-so-excellent adventure in Great Bay
http://dnkcruising.blogspot.com/2007...ersey-icw.html

On the whole it's been a great trip and perhaps we should have done
more of the "inside route" in Jersey. However we will be back!

BTW do you stow the mast-raising pole on board?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Doug,
Too bad our timing was off, would have been a great time to meet up!
http://sports.webshots.com/photo/214...97509592kZrFtZ
So far, I haven't carried the mast-raising pole on board.
Looks like you're having the trip of a lifetime :o)
Scout



Scout July 24th 07 06:46 AM

moment of zen
 
wrote in message
ps.com...
"Scout" wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EsXSzXpE3w


Very nice. The benefits of shallow draft are amazing, eh?

BTW we had a not-so-excellent adventure in Great Bay
http://dnkcruising.blogspot.com/2007...ersey-icw.html

On the whole it's been a great trip and perhaps we should have done
more of the "inside route" in Jersey. However we will be back!

BTW do you stow the mast-raising pole on board?

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


I figured fishermen everywhere were rude and inconsiderate but after reading
your blog I wonder if it's a Jersey thing. No matter how narrow the channel,
the fishermen here love to block it and fish. They spread themselves out
making it a challenge to sail through, then give dirty looks when it's a
close pass.



Scotty July 24th 07 01:19 PM

moment of zen
 

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..

I figured fishermen everywhere were rude and inconsiderate

but after reading
your blog I wonder if it's a Jersey thing. No matter how

narrow the channel,
the fishermen here love to block it and fish. They spread

themselves out
making it a challenge to sail through, then give dirty

looks when it's a
close pass.



When you say fishermen, are you referring to the pros or
those rude drunken A-holes who drag line behind their power
boats. We have a lot of the latter on the Chessy.


Scotty...trolling is not trawling




Scout July 24th 07 01:44 PM

moment of zen
 
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..

I figured fishermen everywhere were rude and inconsiderate

but after reading
your blog I wonder if it's a Jersey thing. No matter how

narrow the channel,
the fishermen here love to block it and fish. They spread

themselves out
making it a challenge to sail through, then give dirty

looks when it's a
close pass.



When you say fishermen, are you referring to the pros or
those rude drunken A-holes who drag line behind their power
boats. We have a lot of the latter on the Chessy.


Scotty...trolling is not trawling


That's true, so I'm referring to the drunken A-holes. I know just two pro
fishermen. One was the guy in my video (with the NZ hat) who was the
engineer on a fishing boat, and the other is a former president of the PA
Bass Assoc. I can't see either one arguing that the best place to fish is
drifting back and forth across a busy, 50 yard wide channel.
Scout



[email protected] July 24th 07 03:58 PM

moment of zen
 
When you say fishermen, are you referring to the pros or
those rude drunken A-holes who drag line behind their power
boats. We have a lot of the latter on the Chessy.


Scotty...trolling is not trawling



"Scout" wrote:
That's true, so I'm referring to the drunken A-holes. I know just two pro
fishermen. One was the guy in my video (with the NZ hat) who was the
engineer on a fishing boat, and the other is a former president of the PA
Bass Assoc. I can't see either one arguing that the best place to fish is
drifting back and forth across a busy, 50 yard wide channel.


Well, I've seen trawlers (the working kind) dragging nets back & forth
across the ICW channel; that makes it kind of difficult. But they're
usually too busy to give you a dirty look and they don't care how
close you pass, as long as you don't actually hit them or mess up the
trawling gear.

Anyway, our experience in NJ is that almost everyone in a boat is rude
& in a big hurry.... not just the fishermen.... kind of like the way
they drive their cars. The exceptions are all the more notable.

It's a shame we didn't get a chance to meet up, although it looks like
you all enjoy slightly shallower water than we can. There are some
lovely spots in the NJ sounds & rivers, we wanted to spend more time
there but had to hurry along. I hope it's not "the trip of a lifetime"
since we want to continue some long term cruising... in fact we
consider this to be sort of a scouting trip for places to come back &
spend more time... but it has been a really awesome trip..

BTW we did visit with Marty and his place is awesome.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King



Scout July 24th 07 04:05 PM

moment of zen
 
wrote in message
ups.com...
When you say fishermen, are you referring to the pros or
those rude drunken A-holes who drag line behind their power
boats. We have a lot of the latter on the Chessy.


Scotty...trolling is not trawling



"Scout" wrote:
That's true, so I'm referring to the drunken A-holes. I know just two pro
fishermen. One was the guy in my video (with the NZ hat) who was the
engineer on a fishing boat, and the other is a former president of the PA
Bass Assoc. I can't see either one arguing that the best place to fish is
drifting back and forth across a busy, 50 yard wide channel.


Well, I've seen trawlers (the working kind) dragging nets back & forth
across the ICW channel; that makes it kind of difficult. But they're
usually too busy to give you a dirty look and they don't care how
close you pass, as long as you don't actually hit them or mess up the
trawling gear.

Anyway, our experience in NJ is that almost everyone in a boat is rude
& in a big hurry.... not just the fishermen.... kind of like the way
they drive their cars. The exceptions are all the more notable.

It's a shame we didn't get a chance to meet up, although it looks like
you all enjoy slightly shallower water than we can. There are some
lovely spots in the NJ sounds & rivers, we wanted to spend more time
there but had to hurry along. I hope it's not "the trip of a lifetime"
since we want to continue some long term cruising... in fact we
consider this to be sort of a scouting trip for places to come back &
spend more time... but it has been a really awesome trip..

BTW we did visit with Marty and his place is awesome.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Doug,
Are you able to post while on the move? If so, how so?
Scout



Martin Baxter July 25th 07 04:00 PM

moment of zen
 
wrote:


BTW we did visit with Marty and his place is awesome.


Well, thank you, y'all are right decent folks too! ;-), and make a
fabulous sweet potato pie!

Cheers
Marty

Scotty July 25th 07 07:29 PM

moment of zen
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
wrote:


BTW we did visit with Marty and his place is awesome.


Well, thank you, y'all are right decent folks too! ;-),

and make a
fabulous sweet potato pie!



'' y'all '' ?




[email protected] July 25th 07 07:56 PM

moment of zen
 
"Scout" wrote:
Doug,
Are you able to post while on the move? If so, how so?


Right now we're in a marina with Wi-Fi, so it's easy. A couple of
other places have this. We've resorted to using the public library a
couple of times. When we get back to the U.S. we'll re-activate the
"air card" (a cell phone modem built into a PC-MCIA2 card) and that is
really easy and seems to work anywhere a cell phone does. It can be a
bit on the slow side though.

DSK



[email protected] July 25th 07 07:58 PM

moment of zen
 
"Martin Baxter" wrote
Well, thank you, y'all are right decent folks too! ;-),

and make a
fabulous sweet potato pie!



"Scotty" wrote:
'' y'all '' ?


Of course.
He lives on a farm.

DSK


Scotty July 25th 07 08:10 PM

moment of zen
 

wrote in message
ups.com...
"Martin Baxter" wrote
Well, thank you, y'all are right decent folks too!

;-),
and make a
fabulous sweet potato pie!



"Scotty" wrote:
'' y'all '' ?


Of course.
He lives on a farm.


Oh, right, and in SOUTHERN Canada.




Maxprop July 25th 07 11:26 PM

moment of zen
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

wrote in message
ups.com...
"Martin Baxter" wrote
Well, thank you, y'all are right decent folks too!

;-),
and make a
fabulous sweet potato pie!



"Scotty" wrote:
'' y'all '' ?


Of course.
He lives on a farm.


Oh, right, and in SOUTHERN Canada.


Wouldn't that be the Texas section of Canada?

Max



Martin Baxter July 26th 07 02:50 PM

moment of zen
 
Scotty wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
wrote:


BTW we did visit with Marty and his place is awesome.


Well, thank you, y'all are right decent folks too! ;-),

and make a
fabulous sweet potato pie!


'' y'all '' ?


See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_American_English

isn't that pink stuff on the map part of the Commonwealth?

Cheers
Marty

Martin Baxter July 26th 07 02:57 PM

moment of zen
 
Maxprop wrote:

Of course.
He lives on a farm.


Oh, right, and in SOUTHERN Canada.


Wouldn't that be the Texas section of Canada?


Hey, you guys wanted Texas enough to fight the Mexicans for it, you have
to keep it now. We don't need the Bush's thankyou very much. Besides,
you've gone and pumped most of the oil out of it.

Cheers
Marty

Joe July 26th 07 03:58 PM

moment of zen
 
On Jul 26, 8:57 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Maxprop wrote:

Of course.
He lives on a farm.


Oh, right, and in SOUTHERN Canada.


Wouldn't that be the Texas section of Canada?


Hey, you guys wanted Texas enough to fight the Mexicans for it, you have
to keep it now. We don't need the Bush's thankyou very much. Besides,
you've gone and pumped most of the oil out of it.

Cheers
Marty


Marty, yer full of wind as a corn-eating horse.

We still have oodles of all.
And we do not have to boil the sand out of it to get at it.

Most smart Texans capped thier wells in the 80's and ain't in no hurry
to open em up again. I spect when Texas tea reaches 300 bucks a 55
gallon drum they might put em back on line.

Joe
"Remember the Alamo"





Martin Baxter July 26th 07 05:16 PM

moment of zen
 
Joe wrote:

On Jul 26, 8:57 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Maxprop wrote:

Of course.
He lives on a farm.


Oh, right, and in SOUTHERN Canada.


Wouldn't that be the Texas section of Canada?


Hey, you guys wanted Texas enough to fight the Mexicans for it, you have
to keep it now. We don't need the Bush's thankyou very much. Besides,
you've gone and pumped most of the oil out of it.

Cheers
Marty


Marty, yer full of wind as a corn-eating horse.

We still have oodles of all.
And we do not have to boil the sand out of it to get at it.

Most smart Texans capped thier wells in the 80's and ain't in no hurry
to open em up again. I spect when Texas tea reaches 300 bucks a 55
gallon drum they might put em back on line.


Could you perhaps cite a reliabe source for this statement, Texan's
capping wells that is, (Smart Texan is an oxymoron ;-)) Proven reserves
are less than half of what you had in the 1950s, your idea sounds like a
conspiricy theory, you don't wear a foil beanie do you?


Cheers
Marty, from the USA's number one supplier of crude oil.

Joe July 26th 07 05:39 PM

moment of zen
 
On Jul 26, 11:16 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote:

On Jul 26, 8:57 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Maxprop wrote:


Of course.
He lives on a farm.


Oh, right, and in SOUTHERN Canada.


Wouldn't that be the Texas section of Canada?


Hey, you guys wanted Texas enough to fight the Mexicans for it, you have
to keep it now. We don't need the Bush's thankyou very much. Besides,
you've gone and pumped most of the oil out of it.


Cheers
Marty


Marty, yer full of wind as a corn-eating horse.


We still have oodles of all.
And we do not have to boil the sand out of it to get at it.


Most smart Texans capped thier wells in the 80's and ain't in no hurry
to open em up again. I spect when Texas tea reaches 300 bucks a 55
gallon drum they might put em back on line.


Could you perhaps cite a reliabe source for this statement,


Ya just heard it from me...I've been here in Texas most my life
Marty.

You could talk to most folks with mineral rights...Why sell now? It's
only getting more and more expensive every day. We figure we will use
up all the middle east oil then the Kanook stuff and save the best for
last.

Joe



Scotty July 26th 07 10:12 PM

moment of zen
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Marty.

You could talk to most folks with mineral rights...Why

sell now? It's
only getting more and more expensive every day. We figure

we will use
up all the middle east oil then the Kanook stuff and save

the best for
last.



and then?



Frank Boettcher July 26th 07 10:50 PM

moment of zen
 
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 11:16:39 -0500, Martin Baxter
wrote:

Joe wrote:

On Jul 26, 8:57 am, Martin Baxter wrote:
Maxprop wrote:

Of course.
He lives on a farm.

Oh, right, and in SOUTHERN Canada.

Wouldn't that be the Texas section of Canada?

Hey, you guys wanted Texas enough to fight the Mexicans for it, you have
to keep it now. We don't need the Bush's thankyou very much. Besides,
you've gone and pumped most of the oil out of it.

Cheers
Marty


Marty, yer full of wind as a corn-eating horse.

We still have oodles of all.
And we do not have to boil the sand out of it to get at it.

Most smart Texans capped thier wells in the 80's and ain't in no hurry
to open em up again. I spect when Texas tea reaches 300 bucks a 55
gallon drum they might put em back on line.


Could you perhaps cite a reliabe source for this statement, Texan's
capping wells that is, (Smart Texan is an oxymoron ;-)) Proven reserves
are less than half of what you had in the 1950s, your idea sounds like a
conspiricy theory, you don't wear a foil beanie do you?


I was there in the eighties, trying to sell them the separation and
treating equipment to produce those wells. When oil hit twelve bucks,
they couldn't produce a well at a profit if I gave them the equipment.
So they capped them. It was worse in Oklahoma, Kansas, and other
states that had wells pumping just a few barrels a day.

Are they still capped. If Joe says so.

It ran me out of the oil patch. But you know what they say about "oil
patch trash". You never quite get it out of your system.

Frank



Cheers
Marty, from the USA's number one supplier of crude oil.



Joe July 26th 07 10:57 PM

moment of zen
 
On Jul 26, 4:12 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...

Marty.


You could talk to most folks with mineral rights...Why

sell now? It's
only getting more and more expensive every day. We figure

we will use
up all the middle east oil then the Kanook stuff and save

the best for
last.


and then?


Corn, nuke, hydro, wind, coal and solar, synthetic plastics... ect.
ect..ect

Joe


Mike Katz July 27th 07 01:27 PM

moment of zen
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:

Of course.
He lives on a farm.

Oh, right, and in SOUTHERN Canada.


Wouldn't that be the Texas section of Canada?


Hey, you guys wanted Texas enough to fight the Mexicans for it, you have
to keep it now. We don't need the Bush's thankyou very much. Besides,
you've gone and pumped most of the oil out of it.

Cheers
Marty


As a Texan I feel I must disabuse you of some of your beliefs. Texas won
it's independence from Mexico. The U.S. had nothing to do with it. Ever
heard of Goliad or the Alamo? Yes, some of those who fought and died were
immigrants from the U. S., but Texans all.

There is more oil remaining in Texas than has been pumped in the past. It
just costs more to get it out of the ground. At $35.00 a barrel a lot of
leases were not in production since the cost to get the oil out was more
than $35.00. Over the years, the price has risen to $75 and Texas's
oilfields are booming. There's lots of oil, but the cheap oil is gone.
Some leases need $20.00 a barrel to breakeven, some need $90.00. At $75.00,
there is tremendous activity in the oil patch. Housing shortages, $12.00 an
hour for unskilled labor, up to $70.00 per hour for skilled workers.
Building cost are $150.00 per square foot.

This has happened every time the price of oil has increased rapidly, ever
since the first well was drilled. The last time was the late 70's. The
booms have always been followed by a bust, the last one in 1982. Everybody
went broke, the banks failed, and some people shot themselves. What next?





Joe July 27th 07 02:40 PM

moment of zen
 
On Jul 27, 7:27 am, "Mike Katz" wrote:
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message

...

Maxprop wrote:


Of course.
He lives on a farm.


Oh, right, and in SOUTHERN Canada.


Wouldn't that be the Texas section of Canada?


Hey, you guys wanted Texas enough to fight the Mexicans for it, you have
to keep it now. We don't need the Bush's thankyou very much. Besides,
you've gone and pumped most of the oil out of it.


Cheers
Marty


As a Texan I feel I must disabuse you of some of your beliefs. Texas won
it's independence from Mexico. The U.S. had nothing to do with it. Ever
heard of Goliad or the Alamo? Yes, some of those who fought and died were
immigrants from the U. S., but Texans all.



He's from Canaduh Mike, please excuse his ignorance and lack of social
grace.

Joe




Mike Katz July 27th 07 11:19 PM

moment of zen
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 27, 7:27 am, "Mike Katz" wrote:
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message

...

Maxprop wrote:


Of course.
He lives on a farm.


Oh, right, and in SOUTHERN Canada.


Wouldn't that be the Texas section of Canada?


Hey, you guys wanted Texas enough to fight the Mexicans for it, you
have
to keep it now. We don't need the Bush's thankyou very much. Besides,
you've gone and pumped most of the oil out of it.


Cheers
Marty


As a Texan I feel I must disabuse you of some of your beliefs. Texas won
it's independence from Mexico. The U.S. had nothing to do with it. Ever
heard of Goliad or the Alamo? Yes, some of those who fought and died
were
immigrants from the U. S., but Texans all.



He's from Canaduh Mike, please excuse his ignorance and lack of social
grace.

Joe



That explains it. I didn't know Canuks could write.




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