If your time has any worth at all (Don't bother reading, Scotty), then
here's why a slip is typically a better choice:

1) You can prep the boat while waiting for crew and no back and forth
with dinghy and launch.
2) Warm up and short run of diesel on regular basis is better than
rare runs off mooring.
3) Time to raise sails from our slip, less than 5 minutes! Typical
trip to boat with dinghy or launch is 10-15 minutes, not including
waiting for folks so you don't make multiple trips!
4) Forgot something? No problem for the slip owner. Just hop off and
go get it. On the mooring? Bwahahahhaha!
5) No more battery/water runs and waiting for that little service dock
to open up....a common situation at clubs that have serious sailing
going on.

Now WHAT exactly are those mooring advantages again????


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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If your time has any worth at all (Don't bother reading, Scotty), then
here's why a slip is typically a better choice:

1) You can prep the boat while waiting for crew and no back and forth
with dinghy and launch.

Strictly a land-lubber's perspective. Prep the boat? Serious sailor's
vessels are ready to go at the drop of a hat. They don't "get" prepared.
They ARE prepared.

2) Warm up and short run of diesel on regular basis is better than
rare runs off mooring.

What real sailor needs an engine other than for powering out of a slip?
Moored boats are easy to sail off and onto the mooring. This is the way
sailboats are supposed to be used. Again, this demonstrates a lubberly
attitude.

3) Time to raise sails from our slip, less than 5 minutes! Typical
trip to boat with dinghy or launch is 10-15 minutes, not including
waiting for folks so you don't make multiple trips!

Only if you live ashore like the lubber you are. No dinghy trips are
required to get underway when you live aboard. But, I would never expect
a lubber to understand this point.

4) Forgot something? No problem for the slip owner. Just hop off and
go get it. On the mooring? Bwahahahhaha!

This goes along with being prepared at all times. Serious sailors don't
"forget something" and have to jump into the car to chase down last
mintue items forgotten due to lack of preparation and a land based
existence.

5) No more battery/water runs and waiting for that little service dock
to open up....a common situation at clubs that have serious sailing
going on.

Battery/water runs? Serious sailors use solar and/or wind to keep their
batteries topped off and there is never a need for a water run as
serious sailors have de-sal equipment. Again, let me point out how your
entire post demonstrates you're nothing but an unprepared lubber.

Wilbur Hubbard

* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/19/2007 7:21 AM:

Now WHAT exactly are those mooring advantages again????



For those of us that actually spend time on our boats, moorings or
anchoring is far, far more comfortable than a slip. Boats orient
themselves to the wind so the hatches provide ventilation. On our
recent little cruise we used two blankets almost every night - I think
one night out the 17 would even count as "warm."

We have privacy - no people walking by the boat at all hours. No
sportfishermen starting engines at 3AM. Yes, occasionally there's a
wake, but you can get the same in a marina.

I thought that it would be a pain scheduling shore trips, but its
hardly ever been a problem. Even though we have a small 8' rowing
dink, we can get everyone, including a large dog, ashore pretty
quickly. When our daughter got bigger and started bringing a friend,
we added a tandem kayak so we'd have more flexibility.

When we first started cruising, we thought it was a luxury to stay at
marinas. Now we generally prefer to stay away from the docks.

On Jul 19, 6:21 am, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
If your time has any worth at all (Don't bother reading, Scotty), then
here's why a slip is typically a better choice:

1) You can prep the boat while waiting for crew and no back and forth
with dinghy and launch.
2) Warm up and short run of diesel on regular basis is better than
rare runs off mooring.
3) Time to raise sails from our slip, less than 5 minutes! Typical
trip to boat with dinghy or launch is 10-15 minutes, not including
waiting for folks so you don't make multiple trips!
4) Forgot something? No problem for the slip owner. Just hop off and
go get it. On the mooring? Bwahahahhaha!
5) No more battery/water runs and waiting for that little service dock
to open up....a common situation at clubs that have serious sailing
going on.

Now WHAT exactly are those mooring advantages again????

RB
35s5
NY

A slip is only slightly better for anyone who has to commute into a
major city to get to the slip. Commutes suck..but if your times not
worth anything then go ahead..commute...spend years and years of your
life in a haze of car exhaust.

Joe

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/19/2007 7:21 AM:

Now WHAT exactly are those mooring advantages again????



For those of us that actually spend time on our boats, moorings or
anchoring is far, far more comfortable than a slip. Boats orient
themselves to the wind so the hatches provide ventilation. On our recent
little cruise we used two blankets almost every night - I think one night
out the 17 would even count as "warm."

We have privacy - no people walking by the boat at all hours. No
sportfishermen starting engines at 3AM. Yes, occasionally there's a wake,
but you can get the same in a marina.

I thought that it would be a pain scheduling shore trips, but its hardly
ever been a problem. Even though we have a small 8' rowing dink, we can
get everyone, including a large dog, ashore pretty quickly. When our
daughter got bigger and started bringing a friend, we added a tandem kayak
so we'd have more flexibility.

When we first started cruising, we thought it was a luxury to stay at
marinas. Now we generally prefer to stay away from the docks.


I think you're probably right, but the advantages of slips in good marinas
is hard to knock. I have extremely good access to excellent sailing, decent
facilities ashore, a great deal of privacy, since they don't have more than
a handfull of live-aboards (and those who are there are very protective of
their neighbors' boats), and the gate have key access. The harbormaster is
quite aggressive about not allowing wakes in the slip area, and most of the
slips are upwind (and very light wind in any case). She's also a stickler
(along with the live-aboards) as far as pollution goes. Lots of people who
race routinely sail out (no engines) and back in from the hoist. It's a
high-class place and the prices are very reasonable, at least for out here.


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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...


If your time has any worth at all (Don't bother reading, Scotty), then
here's why a slip is typically a better choice:

1) You can prep the boat while waiting for crew and no back and forth
with dinghy and launch.

Strictly a land-lubber's perspective. Prep the boat? Serious sailor's
vessels are ready to go at the drop of a hat. They don't "get" prepared.
They ARE prepared.

2) Warm up and short run of diesel on regular basis is better than
rare runs off mooring.

What real sailor needs an engine other than for powering out of a slip?
Moored boats are easy to sail off and onto the mooring. This is the way
sailboats are supposed to be used. Again, this demonstrates a lubberly
attitude.

3) Time to raise sails from our slip, less than 5 minutes! Typical
trip to boat with dinghy or launch is 10-15 minutes, not including
waiting for folks so you don't make multiple trips!

Only if you live ashore like the lubber you are. No dinghy trips are
required to get underway when you live aboard. But, I would never expect a
lubber to understand this point.

4) Forgot something? No problem for the slip owner. Just hop off and
go get it. On the mooring? Bwahahahhaha!

This goes along with being prepared at all times. Serious sailors don't
"forget something" and have to jump into the car to chase down last mintue
items forgotten due to lack of preparation and a land based existence.

5) No more battery/water runs and waiting for that little service dock
to open up....a common situation at clubs that have serious sailing
going on.

Battery/water runs? Serious sailors use solar and/or wind to keep their
batteries topped off and there is never a need for a water run as serious
sailors have de-sal equipment. Again, let me point out how your entire
post demonstrates you're nothing but an unprepared lubber.

Wilbur Hubbard

Why not stop the hypocrisy and dump the lubberly electrical devices?
You should be all about flags, lanterns, whistles, and bells!
Scout

"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...


If your time has any worth at all (Don't bother reading, Scotty), then
here's why a slip is typically a better choice:

1) You can prep the boat while waiting for crew and no back and forth
with dinghy and launch.

Strictly a land-lubber's perspective. Prep the boat? Serious sailor's
vessels are ready to go at the drop of a hat. They don't "get" prepared.
They ARE prepared.

2) Warm up and short run of diesel on regular basis is better than
rare runs off mooring.

What real sailor needs an engine other than for powering out of a slip?
Moored boats are easy to sail off and onto the mooring. This is the way
sailboats are supposed to be used. Again, this demonstrates a lubberly
attitude.

3) Time to raise sails from our slip, less than 5 minutes! Typical
trip to boat with dinghy or launch is 10-15 minutes, not including
waiting for folks so you don't make multiple trips!

Only if you live ashore like the lubber you are. No dinghy trips are
required to get underway when you live aboard. But, I would never expect
a lubber to understand this point.

4) Forgot something? No problem for the slip owner. Just hop off and
go get it. On the mooring? Bwahahahhaha!

This goes along with being prepared at all times. Serious sailors don't
"forget something" and have to jump into the car to chase down last
mintue items forgotten due to lack of preparation and a land based
existence.

5) No more battery/water runs and waiting for that little service dock
to open up....a common situation at clubs that have serious sailing
going on.

Battery/water runs? Serious sailors use solar and/or wind to keep their
batteries topped off and there is never a need for a water run as serious
sailors have de-sal equipment. Again, let me point out how your entire
post demonstrates you're nothing but an unprepared lubber.

Wilbur Hubbard

Why not stop the hypocrisy and dump the lubberly electrical devices?
You should be all about flags, lanterns, whistles, and bells!
Scout




I don't think he's a hooker...


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* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/19/2007 7:21 AM:

Now WHAT exactly are those mooring advantages again????


to get away from idiots like you!

A slip is only slightly better for anyone who has to commute into a
major city to get to the slip.



I agree 100% and we're sure glad traffic is a thing of the past. The
drive does take upwards of 40 minutes though, but we enjoy that as
well as we bought a fast and fun car and plan to buy another. We have
the sailing...we have the house in the woods away from it all....we
have the roads to drive fast....great schools(slow down!). Damn, we're
lucky.


RB
35s5
NY

On Jul 19, 10:48 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
A slip is only slightly better for anyone who has to commute into a
major city to get to the slip.

I agree 100% and we're sure glad traffic is a thing of the past. The
drive does take upwards of 40 minutes though, but we enjoy that as
well as we bought a fast and fun car and plan to buy another. We have
the sailing...we have the house in the woods away from it all....we
have the roads to drive fast....great schools(slow down!). Damn, we're
lucky.

RB
35s5
NY

Today I blew away a Porsche Carrera with my Saturn. Like you I too,
was willing to break the law and exceed the speed limit...... more
than him.

Lets face it, any car in traffic and public roads in NY are limited,
why bother?

Your carbon footprint must be huge...You and your carbon needs are a
major reason why we are at war today, and may be playing a part in
global warming. Don't you have public transportation you can take to
your boat?

Joe