* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/10/2007 10:01 AM:

The problem, Joe, is that there are too many days on the LIS where
full keel boats can hardly sail at all.

You keep making this claim, but the fact is the average wind in your
area is stronger than most parts of the country.

Not the I'm claiming you should have a crab crusher.

* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/10/2007 10:12 AM:
I meant that it's hard to believe that you actually left the
club.




Yeah, I'm the only one here sailing and posting sailing pics.

Some of us have been too busy sailing to post pics of little daysails.

Jeff, aboard Loki in Vineyard Haven Harbor

OUCH!

"Jeff" wrote in message
...
* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/10/2007 10:12 AM:
I meant that it's hard to believe that you actually left
the
club.




Yeah, I'm the only one here sailing and posting sailing
pics.

Some of us have been too busy sailing to post pics of
little daysails.

Jeff, aboard Loki in Vineyard Haven Harbor

SMACKDOWN !!!!!!!!!!

Vic

You keep making this claim, but the fact is the average wind in your
area is stronger than most parts of the country.



Jeff, with all due respect, are you claiming that the LIS has higher
winds during the sailing season? Average winds might be high if you
count January and February, but the July August period can be
downright dead. This has been a good year so far, but I have friends
who went to the Jersey Shore because winds here were too light for
their Tartan 37 and Pearson Wanderer. In fact we had a fellow with a
Triton who left our club two weeks ago for that reason and I think
we've been hit by good winds this season. That's because I bought a
vessel perfect for these local conditions.
I love full keel boats, but at least a 3rd of the time I see them here
they are under power and for good reason.



RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
You keep making this claim, but the fact is the average
wind in your
area is stronger than most parts of the country.



Jeff, with all due respect, are you claiming that the LIS
has higher
winds during the sailing season?

Read it again....s l o w e r .

Jeff wrote:

* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/10/2007 8:11 AM:
While leaving the club, our prop fouled something. In spite of our
Drivesaver, our shaft picked up a slight bend and I'm now shorthauled
for the repair.

OUCHY!


Fouling something hard enough to bend a shaft while leaving the marina
doesn't speak well for your seamanship or the construction quality of
your boat.

Boat was on stands in the yard, Bob backed the Aerostar into the
prop......

Cheers
Marty

"Capt. Rob" wrote:

While leaving the club, our prop fouled something. In spite of our
Drivesaver, our shaft picked up a slight bend and I'm now shorthauled
for the repair.

The Drivesaver is not meant to protect your shaft, it protects the
transmision and engine. Once again something you may have heard of but
know nothing about.

Cheers
Marty

Fouling something hard enough to bend a shaft while leaving the
marina
doesn't speak well for your seamanship or the construction quality of
your boat.



You're right! I should've had my forward looking sonar aimed right at
the surface, as whatever it was did not appear at the surface even
after we hit it. Our shaft was not made by Beneteau, but clearly it
must have been inferior French steel!


RB
35s5
NY

The Drivesaver is not meant to protect your shaft, it protects the
transmision and engine. Once again something you may have heard of
but
know nothing about.



Wrong agaiin, Martin. I spoke to the folks at Drivesaver and they
claim that shaft damage is less likely with their drivesaver. They
make zero claims that ANY component will be protected 100%, but a
light strike to a propeller can be abosrbed by the drivesaver.
Looks like it did protect the tranny, but we'll never know for sure.
I guess we won't be seeing any sailing shots from you this year, right
Martin? Oh yeah...you don't have to "prove" anything!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
The Drivesaver is not meant to protect your shaft, it protects the
transmision and engine. Once again something you may have heard of
but
know nothing about.



Wrong agaiin, Martin. I spoke to the folks at Drivesaver and they
claim that shaft damage is less likely with their drivesaver. They
make zero claims that ANY component will be protected 100%, but a
light strike to a propeller can be abosrbed by the drivesaver.
Looks like it did protect the tranny, but we'll never know for sure.
I guess we won't be seeing any sailing shots from you this year, right
Martin? Oh yeah...you don't have to "prove" anything!


RB
35s5
NY


Looks like Marty is correct again:

http://globerubberworks.com/nav.php?products_drivesaver

"A light strike to the propeller can be absorbed by the drivesaver."

The drivesaver is functionally nothing more than a rubber isolated shear
pin. The bolts have to break to "absorb" anything. The rubber can only
absorb axial, not radial or torque forces. Once again, you shower us with
lies and idiocy!

Moooo-hoooo-haaaa-haaaa!!!!!!!!!

Flimsy propeller shaft not properly supported! What did you hit? A submerged
clorox bottle? Run over your own dock line?

Mooooo-hoooo-haaa-haaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!