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Vic Smith July 6th 07 12:21 AM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
I know Scout splashed his boat, Joe had a nice party, and Ed is making
progress on his Mac 26X. Bobsprit is sick, and hope he gets better
quick, because he's a pretty dependable sailing poster. Not to say
I don't wish him well anyway.
I was in the basement reading about boats, except for some time back
yard grilling with some of the kids and their friends.
Didn't see any sailing stories mentioned here, so I was disappointed a
bit.
Then I quickly realized most people here don't post from their boat
when sailing, so that made me feel a bit more optimistic about things
picking up when everybody gets back ashore.
So if you've got any tales of reaching, reefing, tacking, etc, it
would be nice to post them. Encourages us lubbers to get sailing.
I sometimes look up those nautical terms and nomenclature as you
post so to clean the salt off and understand what I'm looking at.
Then I'll be better-prepared to become a real sailor.
Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?

--Vic

Gregory Hall July 6th 07 01:03 AM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
I know Scout splashed his boat, Joe had a nice party, and Ed is making
progress on his Mac 26X. Bobsprit is sick, and hope he gets better
quick, because he's a pretty dependable sailing poster. Not to say
I don't wish him well anyway.
I was in the basement reading about boats, except for some time back
yard grilling with some of the kids and their friends.
Didn't see any sailing stories mentioned here, so I was disappointed a
bit.
Then I quickly realized most people here don't post from their boat
when sailing, so that made me feel a bit more optimistic about things
picking up when everybody gets back ashore.
So if you've got any tales of reaching, reefing, tacking, etc, it
would be nice to post them. Encourages us lubbers to get sailing.
I sometimes look up those nautical terms and nomenclature as you
post so to clean the salt off and understand what I'm looking at.
Then I'll be better-prepared to become a real sailor.
Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?

--Vic



Lot's of good information he
http://www.sailingusa.info/basic_navigation.htm


If that's too deep for you even better basic information he
http://www.homestead.com/captneal/index10.html Click on the Novice
Lessons links at the bottom of the page.

Greg


Capt. Rob July 6th 07 01:55 AM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
I was actually crazy enough to consider going out on my friend's
Pearson 32 last night to watch the fireworks near Rye on the LIS. I do
have a full blown cold and a hell of a sore throat, so I finally let
Suzanne be a good nurse and keep me home. It's good that she did
because they got steadily rained on for almost the whole sail. In the
meantime I had my yard short haul my boat for a new transducer and
some engine work. I figure to be doing very little sailing until next
week.



RB
35s5
NY


Vic Smith July 6th 07 03:19 AM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 20:03:40 -0400, "Gregory Hall"
wrote:


Lot's of good information he
http://www.sailingusa.info/basic_navigation.htm


If that's too deep for you even better basic information he
http://www.homestead.com/captneal/index10.html Click on the Novice
Lessons links at the bottom of the page.

Greg


Thanks Greg. Good links.

--Vic

Vic Smith July 6th 07 03:24 AM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 00:55:39 -0000, "Capt. Rob"
wrote:

I was actually crazy enough to consider going out on my friend's
Pearson 32 last night to watch the fireworks near Rye on the LIS. I do
have a full blown cold and a hell of a sore throat, so I finally let
Suzanne be a good nurse and keep me home. It's good that she did
because they got steadily rained on for almost the whole sail. In the
meantime I had my yard short haul my boat for a new transducer and
some engine work. I figure to be doing very little sailing until next
week.

Take care of yourself. I'll catch your sailing tales when you get
back on the water. I know you catch some flack here, but I'm
sure many of us enjoy your reports.
Fun is......fun. Even when 2nd hand like I get it.

--Vic

Frank July 6th 07 10:20 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
I didn't sail on the 4th but I did go racing on the 5th. Crewed for
some friends on their Lagoon 380 cat for the Thursday night beercan
race - cruising class - in Seattle. It was my third race with them and
my third time on a big cat. I think I'm starting to get a feel for
her. It couldn't have been a more perfect night. Wind in the mid to
high teens balmy temps and just a beautiful night to be in Elliott Bay
and admire the Seattle cityscape while zooming along, "condomaran"
style. We're still figuring out the best way to handle her crusing
'chute but we'll get it sorted out by the end of the series, I'm sure.

Frank


Vic Smith July 6th 07 11:28 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:20:41 -0700, Frank wrote:

I didn't sail on the 4th but I did go racing on the 5th. Crewed for
some friends on their Lagoon 380 cat for the Thursday night beercan
race - cruising class - in Seattle. It was my third race with them and
my third time on a big cat. I think I'm starting to get a feel for
her. It couldn't have been a more perfect night. Wind in the mid to
high teens balmy temps and just a beautiful night to be in Elliott Bay
and admire the Seattle cityscape while zooming along, "condomaran"
style. We're still figuring out the best way to handle her crusing
'chute but we'll get it sorted out by the end of the series, I'm sure.

Sounds like a good time. I couldn't find the definition of "beercan
race" but only suppose from context that it's informal.
Can anybody tell me how they are organized and what rules generally
apply?
The Lagoon 380 is a pretty well respected cruiser. I've read some are
equipped with a bowsprit so to use a spinnaker, and some use a
gennaker or a screecher. Pretty confusing to me.
When you mentioned "cruising 'chute" were you referring to one of
those?

Thanks

--Vic

Frank July 7th 07 12:47 AM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
On Jul 6, 3:28 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 14:20:41 -0700, Frank wrote:
I didn't sail on the 4th but I did go racing on the 5th. Crewed for
some friends on their Lagoon 380 cat for the Thursday night beercan
race - cruising class - in Seattle. It was my third race with them and
my third time on a big cat. I think I'm starting to get a feel for
her. It couldn't have been a more perfect night. Wind in the mid to
high teens balmy temps and just a beautiful night to be in Elliott Bay
and admire the Seattle cityscape while zooming along, "condomaran"
style. We're still figuring out the best way to handle her crusing
'chute but we'll get it sorted out by the end of the series, I'm sure.


Sounds like a good time. I couldn't find the definition of "beercan
race" but only suppose from context that it's informal.
Can anybody tell me how they are organized and what rules generally
apply?
The Lagoon 380 is a pretty well respected cruiser. I've read some are
equipped with a bowsprit so to use a spinnaker, and some use a
gennaker or a screecher. Pretty confusing to me.
When you mentioned "cruising 'chute" were you referring to one of
those?

Thanks

--Vic


Hi, Vic,

Sorry if my shorthand confused you. There are many tyes of after-work
sailing races. Some are very serious and very competitive with strict
adherence to rules and there are a number of Olympic-class and world-
class racers in the Seattle area. Some of the racing in this area is
mercilessly competitive. For a typical around-the-buoys race, the race
committee sets a course appropriate to the conditions so it'll start
after work and last a reasonable amount of time. This particular
club's race series is sooooo casual, I can't even classify it as
'round-the-buoys, it's pretty much just a "beercan" race. No snarky
captains yelling about obscure rules, no protests, no penalty for
touching the mark, etc. Just a fun night on the water.

This boat has an asymmetrical spinnaker ("cruising chute") which came
with the boat. Think of it as a light-air genoa. Sort of. I don't
think this one was originally made for this boat and it seems to be
badly cut. My friends, the current owners, are trying to get a feel
for how to best use it, as a 40ish couple with three kids. Still
experimenting. I have no previous experience with big cats so I'm
enjoying the learning curve, too. Lots of fun. And roomier than my
first apartment!

Frank


Cal Vanize July 7th 07 01:30 AM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 

We went out for a few hours. Nice day, wind 10 - 12k pretty steady.
Toward the mid-afternoon, we had a thunderstorm build right above us.
We dropped the sails and headed back in a hurry. As we were securing
the boat, the heavy rain and lightening started.

But it was a great day while it lasted.

(Carlyle Lake, IL)



Scotty July 7th 07 04:41 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
Holidays suck on the water. All the weekend warriors and
glorified day sailors, like Bob, come out and cause havoc
for the rest of us.
I was in the desert on the 4th. White sands, NM.

Scotty



"Cal Vanize" wrote in message
...

We went out for a few hours. Nice day, wind 10 - 12k

pretty steady.
Toward the mid-afternoon, we had a thunderstorm build

right above us.
We dropped the sails and headed back in a hurry. As we

were securing
the boat, the heavy rain and lightening started.

But it was a great day while it lasted.

(Carlyle Lake, IL)





Capt. Lewry July 7th 07 04:53 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
You should have stopped by.

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Holidays suck on the water. All the weekend warriors and
glorified day sailors, like Bob, come out and cause havoc
for the rest of us.
I was in the desert on the 4th. White sands, NM.

Scotty



"Cal Vanize" wrote in message
...

We went out for a few hours. Nice day, wind 10 - 12k

pretty steady.
Toward the mid-afternoon, we had a thunderstorm build

right above us.
We dropped the sails and headed back in a hurry. As we

were securing
the boat, the heavy rain and lightening started.

But it was a great day while it lasted.

(Carlyle Lake, IL)







Wilbur Hubbard July 7th 07 05:00 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Holidays suck on the water. All the weekend warriors and
glorified day sailors, like Bob, come out and cause havoc
for the rest of us.
I was in the desert on the 4th. White sands, NM.

Scotty



You're sure 100% correct with you observations. Holidays are the very
worst time to be out on the water. Every wannabe clown jumps in his boat
or jet-ski and goes out and runs around like a bunch of raving lunatics.
Many of them are legally drunk starting about ten o'clock in the morning
and they get drunker than that as the day progresses.

It's the New York jerk type like Bobsprit who loves these dangerous
crowds. Loves being out there because there's a bigger audience for him
to show off in front of. Never mind he should be ashamed of his POS
Beneteau. Given a big enough audience of drunken wannabes there's always
a few who give him the "thumbs up" as they roar by. This attention is
what Bobsprit and his show-off ilk live for. Without an audience
Bobsprit would quickly lose interest. He gets no enjoyment out of
sailing. He derives his enjoyment out of being noticed. The more people
out there to notice him the better he feels. Elbow to elbow drunken
humanity allows him to direct his attention outwards. This is far
preferable to self-examination which would be depressing as hell . . .

Real sailors avoid the holiday moron crowds.

Wilbur Hubbard


Ed Gordon July 7th 07 05:10 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
anews.com...

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Holidays suck on the water. All the weekend warriors and
glorified day sailors, like Bob, come out and cause havoc
for the rest of us.
I was in the desert on the 4th. White sands, NM.

Scotty



You're sure 100% correct with you observations. Holidays are the very
worst time to be out on the water. Every wannabe clown jumps in his
boat or jet-ski and goes out and runs around like a bunch of raving
lunatics. Many of them are legally drunk starting about ten o'clock in
the morning and they get drunker than that as the day progresses.

It's the New York jerk type like Bobsprit who loves these dangerous
crowds. Loves being out there because there's a bigger audience for
him to show off in front of. Never mind he should be ashamed of his
POS Beneteau. Given a big enough audience of drunken wannabes there's
always a few who give him the "thumbs up" as they roar by. This
attention is what Bobsprit and his show-off ilk live for. Without an
audience Bobsprit would quickly lose interest. He gets no enjoyment
out of sailing. He derives his enjoyment out of being noticed. The
more people out there to notice him the better he feels. Elbow to
elbow drunken humanity allows him to direct his attention outwards.
This is far preferable to self-examination which would be depressing
as hell . . .

Real sailors avoid the holiday moron crowds.

Wilbur Hubbard



SMACKDOWN!!!!! "Masthead" has always been a big loser. I was slapping
him around ten years ago. Some things never change.

Cheers,
Ed Gordon




Capt. JG July 7th 07 07:45 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
I know Scout splashed his boat, Joe had a nice party, and Ed is making
progress on his Mac 26X. Bobsprit is sick, and hope he gets better
quick, because he's a pretty dependable sailing poster. Not to say
I don't wish him well anyway.
I was in the basement reading about boats, except for some time back
yard grilling with some of the kids and their friends.
Didn't see any sailing stories mentioned here, so I was disappointed a
bit.
Then I quickly realized most people here don't post from their boat
when sailing, so that made me feel a bit more optimistic about things
picking up when everybody gets back ashore.
So if you've got any tales of reaching, reefing, tacking, etc, it
would be nice to post them. Encourages us lubbers to get sailing.
I sometimes look up those nautical terms and nomenclature as you
post so to clean the salt off and understand what I'm looking at.
Then I'll be better-prepared to become a real sailor.
Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?

--Vic



We were on Lake Mead for the week... really, really not.. 120 or so for a
couple of days. No sailing, just houseboating, wake-boarding, and sittin in
the water.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Vic Smith July 7th 07 08:04 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
On Fri, 06 Jul 2007 16:47:35 -0700, Frank wrote:


Hi, Vic,

Sorry if my shorthand confused you. There are many tyes of after-work
sailing races. Some are very serious and very competitive with strict
adherence to rules and there are a number of Olympic-class and world-
class racers in the Seattle area. Some of the racing in this area is
mercilessly competitive. For a typical around-the-buoys race, the race
committee sets a course appropriate to the conditions so it'll start
after work and last a reasonable amount of time. This particular
club's race series is sooooo casual, I can't even classify it as
'round-the-buoys, it's pretty much just a "beercan" race. No snarky
captains yelling about obscure rules, no protests, no penalty for
touching the mark, etc. Just a fun night on the water.

This boat has an asymmetrical spinnaker ("cruising chute") which came
with the boat. Think of it as a light-air genoa. Sort of. I don't
think this one was originally made for this boat and it seems to be
badly cut. My friends, the current owners, are trying to get a feel
for how to best use it, as a 40ish couple with three kids. Still
experimenting. I have no previous experience with big cats so I'm
enjoying the learning curve, too. Lots of fun. And roomier than my
first apartment!

Thanks, Frank. Good luck in the next race.

--Vic


Capt. Lewry July 7th 07 08:23 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
I know Scout splashed his boat, Joe had a nice party, and Ed is making
progress on his Mac 26X. Bobsprit is sick, and hope he gets better
quick, because he's a pretty dependable sailing poster. Not to say
I don't wish him well anyway.
I was in the basement reading about boats, except for some time back
yard grilling with some of the kids and their friends.
Didn't see any sailing stories mentioned here, so I was disappointed a
bit.
Then I quickly realized most people here don't post from their boat
when sailing, so that made me feel a bit more optimistic about things
picking up when everybody gets back ashore.
So if you've got any tales of reaching, reefing, tacking, etc, it
would be nice to post them. Encourages us lubbers to get sailing.
I sometimes look up those nautical terms and nomenclature as you
post so to clean the salt off and understand what I'm looking at.
Then I'll be better-prepared to become a real sailor.
Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?

--Vic



We were on Lake Mead for the week... really, really not.. 120 or so for a
couple of days. No sailing, just houseboating, wake-boarding, and sittin
in the water.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Great scenery.




Capt. JG July 7th 07 11:37 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
. net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
...
I know Scout splashed his boat, Joe had a nice party, and Ed is making
progress on his Mac 26X. Bobsprit is sick, and hope he gets better
quick, because he's a pretty dependable sailing poster. Not to say
I don't wish him well anyway.
I was in the basement reading about boats, except for some time back
yard grilling with some of the kids and their friends.
Didn't see any sailing stories mentioned here, so I was disappointed a
bit.
Then I quickly realized most people here don't post from their boat
when sailing, so that made me feel a bit more optimistic about things
picking up when everybody gets back ashore.
So if you've got any tales of reaching, reefing, tacking, etc, it
would be nice to post them. Encourages us lubbers to get sailing.
I sometimes look up those nautical terms and nomenclature as you
post so to clean the salt off and understand what I'm looking at.
Then I'll be better-prepared to become a real sailor.
Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?

--Vic



We were on Lake Mead for the week... really, really not.. 120 or so for a
couple of days. No sailing, just houseboating, wake-boarding, and sittin
in the water.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Great scenery.


Yes, not as dramtic as other places we could have been, but the beaches were
nice. Saw long-horn sheep up close. They came down to get a drink from the
lake. Nasty wake-board injury for me, so no sailing for a couple of weeks,
but the doc said all is intact.



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Joe July 7th 07 11:56 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
On Jul 7, 5:37 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message

. net...







"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
I know Scout splashed his boat, Joe had a nice party, and Ed is making
progress on his Mac 26X. Bobsprit is sick, and hope he gets better
quick, because he's a pretty dependable sailing poster. Not to say
I don't wish him well anyway.
I was in the basement reading about boats, except for some time back
yard grilling with some of the kids and their friends.
Didn't see any sailing stories mentioned here, so I was disappointed a
bit.
Then I quickly realized most people here don't post from their boat
when sailing, so that made me feel a bit more optimistic about things
picking up when everybody gets back ashore.
So if you've got any tales of reaching, reefing, tacking, etc, it
would be nice to post them. Encourages us lubbers to get sailing.
I sometimes look up those nautical terms and nomenclature as you
post so to clean the salt off and understand what I'm looking at.
Then I'll be better-prepared to become a real sailor.
Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?


--Vic


We were on Lake Mead for the week... really, really not.. 120 or so for a
couple of days. No sailing, just houseboating, wake-boarding, and sittin
in the water.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Great scenery.


Yes, not as dramtic as other places we could have been, but the beaches were
nice. Saw long-horn sheep up close. They came down to get a drink from the
lake. Nasty wake-board injury for me, so no sailing for a couple of weeks,
but the doc said all is intact.

--
"j" ganz - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Deck Division use to have massive Keg parties on lake Mead.
Sounds like nothing has changed. Sit in the wtaer and drink beer all
day long and never get a buzz because you sweat it out.

So what happened with the wake board?

Joe


Capt. JG July 8th 07 12:40 AM

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Jul 7, 5:37 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message

. net...







"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
I know Scout splashed his boat, Joe had a nice party, and Ed is making
progress on his Mac 26X. Bobsprit is sick, and hope he gets better
quick, because he's a pretty dependable sailing poster. Not to say
I don't wish him well anyway.
I was in the basement reading about boats, except for some time back
yard grilling with some of the kids and their friends.
Didn't see any sailing stories mentioned here, so I was disappointed
a
bit.
Then I quickly realized most people here don't post from their boat
when sailing, so that made me feel a bit more optimistic about things
picking up when everybody gets back ashore.
So if you've got any tales of reaching, reefing, tacking, etc, it
would be nice to post them. Encourages us lubbers to get sailing.
I sometimes look up those nautical terms and nomenclature as you
post so to clean the salt off and understand what I'm looking at.
Then I'll be better-prepared to become a real sailor.
Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?


--Vic


We were on Lake Mead for the week... really, really not.. 120 or so
for a
couple of days. No sailing, just houseboating, wake-boarding, and
sittin
in the water.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Great scenery.


Yes, not as dramtic as other places we could have been, but the beaches
were
nice. Saw long-horn sheep up close. They came down to get a drink from
the
lake. Nasty wake-board injury for me, so no sailing for a couple of
weeks,
but the doc said all is intact.

--
"j" ganz - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Deck Division use to have massive Keg parties on lake Mead.
Sounds like nothing has changed. Sit in the wtaer and drink beer all
day long and never get a buzz because you sweat it out.

So what happened with the wake board?

Joe



Well, I haven't been up behind a ski boat in about 25 years... (last time in
Tahiti was unsuccessful and I got a leg muscle pull) popped up the first
time though, no problem. I haven't looked but I think there's a pic of me
cruisin along. Then on the fourth time at bat, forgot everything I learned
and didn't stand up as soon as I should have. Got my feet jammed into my
face with my knees in the way. Heard a very loud pop, mind-blanking pain in
my lower back/legs running down to my ankles. Couldn't move an inch due to
the pain, but they fished me out and I was walking around the next day. We
had a doc on the boat who prescribed massive Advil, vodka shots, and a cold
pack on the back seemed to do the trick. Went to my doc today who said don't
do much for two weeks, no long-term damage probably. Thought the ER
treatment was about right. Gave me a script for Vicodin if I need it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Joe July 8th 07 01:41 AM

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On Jul 7, 6:40 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...





On Jul 7, 5:37 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message


y.net...


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
I know Scout splashed his boat, Joe had a nice party, and Ed is making
progress on his Mac 26X. Bobsprit is sick, and hope he gets better
quick, because he's a pretty dependable sailing poster. Not to say
I don't wish him well anyway.
I was in the basement reading about boats, except for some time back
yard grilling with some of the kids and their friends.
Didn't see any sailing stories mentioned here, so I was disappointed
a
bit.
Then I quickly realized most people here don't post from their boat
when sailing, so that made me feel a bit more optimistic about things
picking up when everybody gets back ashore.
So if you've got any tales of reaching, reefing, tacking, etc, it
would be nice to post them. Encourages us lubbers to get sailing.
I sometimes look up those nautical terms and nomenclature as you
post so to clean the salt off and understand what I'm looking at.
Then I'll be better-prepared to become a real sailor.
Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?


--Vic


We were on Lake Mead for the week... really, really not.. 120 or so
for a
couple of days. No sailing, just houseboating, wake-boarding, and
sittin
in the water.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Great scenery.


Yes, not as dramtic as other places we could have been, but the beaches
were
nice. Saw long-horn sheep up close. They came down to get a drink from
the
lake. Nasty wake-board injury for me, so no sailing for a couple of
weeks,
but the doc said all is intact.


--
"j" ganz -Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Deck Division use to have massive Keg parties on lake Mead.
Sounds like nothing has changed. Sit in the wtaer and drink beer all
day long and never get a buzz because you sweat it out.


So what happened with the wake board?


Joe


Well, I haven't been up behind a ski boat in about 25 years... (last time in
Tahiti was unsuccessful and I got a leg muscle pull) popped up the first
time though, no problem. I haven't looked but I think there's a pic of me
cruisin along. Then on the fourth time at bat, forgot everything I learned
and didn't stand up as soon as I should have. Got my feet jammed into my
face with my knees in the way. Heard a very loud pop, mind-blanking pain in
my lower back/legs running down to my ankles. Couldn't move an inch due to
the pain, but they fished me out and I was walking around the next day. We
had a doc on the boat who prescribed massive Advil, vodka shots, and a cold
pack on the back seemed to do the trick. Went to my doc today who said don't
do much for two weeks, no long-term damage probably. Thought the ER
treatment was about right. Gave me a script for Vicodin if I need it.

--
"j" ganz - Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


bummer. getting old eh?

Joe


seatalker July 8th 07 01:48 AM

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Vic Smith wrote:
I know Scout splashed his boat, Joe had a nice party, and Ed is making
progress on his Mac 26X. Bobsprit is sick, and hope he gets better
quick, because he's a pretty dependable sailing poster. Not to say
I don't wish him well anyway.
I was in the basement reading about boats, except for some time back
yard grilling with some of the kids and their friends.
Didn't see any sailing stories mentioned here, so I was disappointed a
bit.
Then I quickly realized most people here don't post from their boat
when sailing, so that made me feel a bit more optimistic about things
picking up when everybody gets back ashore.
So if you've got any tales of reaching, reefing, tacking, etc, it
would be nice to post them. Encourages us lubbers to get sailing.
I sometimes look up those nautical terms and nomenclature as you
post so to clean the salt off and understand what I'm looking at.
Then I'll be better-prepared to become a real sailor.
Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?

--Vic



seatalker July 8th 07 01:57 AM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 

Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?

--Vic


The really basic standby is "Piloting, Seamanship and Small Boat
Handling",
by Chapman. For nautical language, try the "Dictionary of English
Nautical
Language" http://www.seatalk.info


Capt. JG July 8th 07 04:01 AM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...
On Jul 7, 6:40 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...





On Jul 7, 5:37 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message


y.net...


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
. ..
I know Scout splashed his boat, Joe had a nice party, and Ed is
making
progress on his Mac 26X. Bobsprit is sick, and hope he gets
better
quick, because he's a pretty dependable sailing poster. Not to
say
I don't wish him well anyway.
I was in the basement reading about boats, except for some time
back
yard grilling with some of the kids and their friends.
Didn't see any sailing stories mentioned here, so I was
disappointed
a
bit.
Then I quickly realized most people here don't post from their
boat
when sailing, so that made me feel a bit more optimistic about
things
picking up when everybody gets back ashore.
So if you've got any tales of reaching, reefing, tacking, etc, it
would be nice to post them. Encourages us lubbers to get sailing.
I sometimes look up those nautical terms and nomenclature as you
post so to clean the salt off and understand what I'm looking at.
Then I'll be better-prepared to become a real sailor.
Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new
sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?


--Vic


We were on Lake Mead for the week... really, really not.. 120 or so
for a
couple of days. No sailing, just houseboating, wake-boarding, and
sittin
in the water.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Great scenery.


Yes, not as dramtic as other places we could have been, but the
beaches
were
nice. Saw long-horn sheep up close. They came down to get a drink from
the
lake. Nasty wake-board injury for me, so no sailing for a couple of
weeks,
but the doc said all is intact.


--
"j" ganz -Hide quoted text -


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Deck Division use to have massive Keg parties on lake Mead.
Sounds like nothing has changed. Sit in the wtaer and drink beer all
day long and never get a buzz because you sweat it out.


So what happened with the wake board?


Joe


Well, I haven't been up behind a ski boat in about 25 years... (last time
in
Tahiti was unsuccessful and I got a leg muscle pull) popped up the first
time though, no problem. I haven't looked but I think there's a pic of me
cruisin along. Then on the fourth time at bat, forgot everything I
learned
and didn't stand up as soon as I should have. Got my feet jammed into my
face with my knees in the way. Heard a very loud pop, mind-blanking pain
in
my lower back/legs running down to my ankles. Couldn't move an inch due
to
the pain, but they fished me out and I was walking around the next day.
We
had a doc on the boat who prescribed massive Advil, vodka shots, and a
cold
pack on the back seemed to do the trick. Went to my doc today who said
don't
do much for two weeks, no long-term damage probably. Thought the ER
treatment was about right. Gave me a script for Vicodin if I need it.

--
"j" ganz - Hide quoted text -

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bummer. getting old eh?

Joe



Yep. I guess. Better than the alternative I suppose.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Vic Smith July 8th 07 04:19 AM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
On Sat, 07 Jul 2007 17:57:05 -0700, seatalker
wrote:


Can anybody recommend good basic reading material for the new sailor
who wants to start learning the ropes?

--Vic


The really basic standby is "Piloting, Seamanship and Small Boat
Handling",
by Chapman. For nautical language, try the "Dictionary of English
Nautical
Language" http://www.seatalk.info


Thanks, Mike.

--Vic

Scotty July 9th 07 11:56 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
stopped by where?


"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...
You should have stopped by.

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Holidays suck on the water. All the weekend warriors and
glorified day sailors, like Bob, come out and cause

havoc
for the rest of us.
I was in the desert on the 4th. White sands, NM.

Scotty



"Cal Vanize" wrote in

message
...

We went out for a few hours. Nice day, wind 10 - 12k

pretty steady.
Toward the mid-afternoon, we had a thunderstorm build

right above us.
We dropped the sails and headed back in a hurry. As we

were securing
the boat, the heavy rain and lightening started.

But it was a great day while it lasted.

(Carlyle Lake, IL)









Capt. Lewry July 10th 07 12:49 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
Not far from White Sands, I am pulling a one year stint in the oil fields to
finance my cruising. A year here will provide 3-4 years of upscale island
hopping in the Caribbean. (or 5 or 7 years of shoestring cruising).

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...
You should have stopped by.

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Holidays suck on the water. All the weekend warriors and
glorified day sailors, like Bob, come out and cause havoc
for the rest of us.
I was in the desert on the 4th. White sands, NM.

Scotty



"Cal Vanize" wrote in message
...

We went out for a few hours. Nice day, wind 10 - 12k

pretty steady.
Toward the mid-afternoon, we had a thunderstorm build

right above us.
We dropped the sails and headed back in a hurry. As we

were securing
the boat, the heavy rain and lightening started.

But it was a great day while it lasted.

(Carlyle Lake, IL)









Scotty July 10th 07 01:27 PM

Anybody Sail on the 4th?
 
we landed in El Paso, stayed in Las Cruces NM.

SBV


"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
. net...
Not far from White Sands, I am pulling a one year stint in

the oil fields to
finance my cruising. A year here will provide 3-4 years

of upscale island
hopping in the Caribbean. (or 5 or 7 years of shoestring

cruising).

"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...
You should have stopped by.

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Holidays suck on the water. All the weekend warriors

and
glorified day sailors, like Bob, come out and cause

havoc
for the rest of us.
I was in the desert on the 4th. White sands, NM.

Scotty



"Cal Vanize" wrote in

message
...

We went out for a few hours. Nice day, wind 10 - 12k
pretty steady.
Toward the mid-afternoon, we had a thunderstorm build
right above us.
We dropped the sails and headed back in a hurry. As

we
were securing
the boat, the heavy rain and lightening started.

But it was a great day while it lasted.

(Carlyle Lake, IL)












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