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Horvath July 6th 07 03:48 AM

OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
 
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 19:48:00 -0700, "Scott Abraham"
wrote this crap:



Damn. I thought you were posting from alt.dumb****.fish.dickless.freak



Is that your regular group?

I haven't seen you on mennsweb.





This post is 100% free of steroids

pigo July 6th 07 04:30 AM

OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
 
On Jul 5, 7:37 pm, Tankfixer wrote:
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"Scott Abraham" wrote:


"Tankfixer" wrote in message
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"Tankfixer" wrote in message
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On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:20:14 GMT, Tankfixer
wrote this crap:


I graduated from West Point along with a good number of other
fine
Marines. My major was ROTC in which I have a degree. I have a
master's
degree in amphibious and littoral warfare and did my thesis on
key
overlooked elements of the "forward from the sea" doctrine.


Only catching Air.


Sine the US Army doesn't HAVE Foot Guards Regiments I'd say its not
a
rank germain to the US Army, is it ?


ROTC as a major:
The next sentence starts with "The transcript says History Major"


Sssshhh! SSSSSH! Quiet already. This person is no ordinary
dumbass!


He majored ROTC at West Point, and graduated with three degrees.
Then
while an Ensign with the British Army, he outshot everyone at Camp
Perry, and was promoted to USMC Seal.


This is not someone to trifle with.


He tells me he read Clausewitz, and has an original copy of "The Art
of War" autographed by Sun Tzu!


Not only that, but he KNEW, he Knew, I tell you, that my copy of
Clausewitz is highlighted in crayon, and he knew that my wife is a
former dancer.


This person is far superior to us. I'd hate to have him learn my
name
and address.


Scott Abraham
1416 N 49th St
Seattle, WA 98103


He sounds so much like Doug Reiman with his silly claims too..


**** yourself, you stupid asshole. Horvath just made up some whoppers
and
went fishing for a real dumb****.....and he found you.
Never ceases to amaze me how gullible usenet freaks can be.


My my you are touchy.


My, my you are an asshole.


Did your momma never learn you manners boy ?


Anytime you want to try and learn me, asshole, go for it. No lying usenet
freak has ever had the balls.... Clue time, fish. You just got played, and
you look like a cowardly fool.


Stop acting like Reiman


Stop being a dumb**** who just got played by one of the most despicable,
dickless freaks on usenet. Now go **** yourself.


Just another newcomer judging you on what he sees, Scotty....


I suspect I'm posting from some other group than our friend.

alt.war.vietnam

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We crosspost some of these tirades of his over on Vietnam groups since
we've busted him posing as anything from Vietnam Vet, wounded in some
versions, College Journalist (forced to kill with his bare hands), and
ex-Navy S.E.A.L.

He's so full of lies and delusions (I guess we don't need to tell
you!) that it's pretty easy to get him chasing his tail and he slinks
away for awhile.

Then when he gets tired of noone talking about him he comes back for
more abuse.

When he talks about not knowing your name blah blah blah, remember
that he has met me. Knows where I live, my real name, employer,
everything. I told him many times this season alone where I would be
skiing and where to meet me at specific times. I have killed him on
the group but have arrangements for notification were he to agree to a
prespecified meeting. Never happened.

But what good is a joke if you can't laugh at it? Do like we do, get a
good laugh and don't really concern yourself. With any luck he'll be
dead soon and there will be more air for magots or something else more
worthy.


Scott Abraham July 6th 07 04:37 AM

OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
 

"Tankfixer" wrote in message
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"Tankfixer" wrote in message
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"Tankfixer" wrote in message
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"Tankfixer" wrote in message
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In article ,
mumbled
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:20:14 GMT, Tankfixer

wrote this crap:



I graduated from West Point along with a good number of
other
fine
Marines. My major was ROTC in which I have a degree. I
have a
master's
degree in amphibious and littoral warfare and did my
thesis
on
key
overlooked elements of the "forward from the sea"
doctrine.


Only catching Air.


Sine the US Army doesn't HAVE Foot Guards Regiments I'd say
its
not
a
rank germain to the US Army, is it ?



ROTC as a major:
The next sentence starts with "The transcript says History
Major"


Sssshhh! SSSSSH! Quiet already. This person is no ordinary
dumbass!

He majored ROTC at West Point, and graduated with three
degrees.
Then
while an Ensign with the British Army, he outshot everyone at
Camp
Perry, and was promoted to USMC Seal.

This is not someone to trifle with.

He tells me he read Clausewitz, and has an original copy of
"The
Art
of War" autographed by Sun Tzu!

Not only that, but he KNEW, he Knew, I tell you, that my copy
of
Clausewitz is highlighted in crayon, and he knew that my wife
is a
former dancer.

This person is far superior to us. I'd hate to have him learn
my
name
and address.


Scott Abraham
1416 N 49th St
Seattle, WA 98103


He sounds so much like Doug Reiman with his silly claims too..

**** yourself, you stupid asshole. Horvath just made up some
whoppers
and
went fishing for a real dumb****.....and he found you.
Never ceases to amaze me how gullible usenet freaks can be.

My my you are touchy.

My, my you are an asshole.

Did your momma never learn you manners boy ?

Anytime you want to try and learn me, asshole, go for it. No lying
usenet
freak has ever had the balls.... Clue time, fish. You just got
played,
and
you look like a cowardly fool.

Stop acting like Reiman

Stop being a dumb**** who just got played by one of the most
despicable,
dickless freaks on usenet. Now go **** yourself.

You sure know how to go about winning frineds sonny.

If the OP was trying to get your goat he sure succeded.


Holy ****, you really are a dumb****. Not only a dickless coward, a
lying
piece of ****, and a usenet asshole, but a truly dumb fish.
Clue time, dumb****. If you were the kind of man I want as a friend,
you'd
apologize. But you're a usenet asshole, talking **** while hiding behind
your computer.
Now go **** yourself. You've been played by two people, and you're so
****ing stupid you don't knowit.


I think I understand now.
You hate your mom for all those years she brought men around...
You hate her becuase you no ont who your daddy is.

Get some help for your hate.


As I was saying about you being a dickless, nutless usenet asshole?
Got the balls to say that in person, freak?
Of course not. You just hide behind your computer and project your bull****
onto others.
Now go **** yourself. Typical usenet freak.



Scott Abraham July 6th 07 05:01 AM

OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
 

"Horvath" wrote in message
. com...
On Thu, 5 Jul 2007 19:48:00 -0700, "Scott Abraham"
wrote this crap:



Damn. I thought you were posting from alt.dumb****.fish.dickless.freak



Is that your regular group?

I haven't seen you on mennsweb.


Terd Fartingmore. Holy ****. Hey, freak?
I've never seen you. Would love to. Oooops, forgot. That would take
balls, you dumb**** fish dickless freak.



Ted Waldron July 6th 07 07:12 AM

OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
 
In article et,
Tankfixer wrote:


I suspect I'm posting from some other group than our friend.

alt.war.vietnam



Here is psychotic whiny boy (Scooter Abraham, aka Two Buddha) trying
to evade his lies about being a "College Journalist" in Vietnam and
getting his ass handed to him for making up such preposterous tales...

http://tinyurl.com/2uvyjn

Tankfixer July 6th 07 08:09 PM

OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
 
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"Tankfixer" wrote in message
ink.net...
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mumbled

"Tankfixer" wrote in message
nk.net...
In article ,

mumbled

"Tankfixer" wrote in message
ink.net...
In article ,

mumbled

"Tankfixer" wrote in message
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In article ,
mumbled
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:20:14 GMT, Tankfixer

wrote this crap:



I graduated from West Point along with a good number of
other
fine
Marines. My major was ROTC in which I have a degree. I
have a
master's
degree in amphibious and littoral warfare and did my
thesis
on
key
overlooked elements of the "forward from the sea"
doctrine.


Only catching Air.


Sine the US Army doesn't HAVE Foot Guards Regiments I'd say
its
not
a
rank germain to the US Army, is it ?



ROTC as a major:
The next sentence starts with "The transcript says History
Major"


Sssshhh! SSSSSH! Quiet already. This person is no ordinary
dumbass!

He majored ROTC at West Point, and graduated with three
degrees.
Then
while an Ensign with the British Army, he outshot everyone at
Camp
Perry, and was promoted to USMC Seal.

This is not someone to trifle with.

He tells me he read Clausewitz, and has an original copy of
"The
Art
of War" autographed by Sun Tzu!

Not only that, but he KNEW, he Knew, I tell you, that my copy
of
Clausewitz is highlighted in crayon, and he knew that my wife
is a
former dancer.

This person is far superior to us. I'd hate to have him learn
my
name
and address.


Scott Abraham
1416 N 49th St
Seattle, WA 98103


He sounds so much like Doug Reiman with his silly claims too..

**** yourself, you stupid asshole. Horvath just made up some
whoppers
and
went fishing for a real dumb****.....and he found you.
Never ceases to amaze me how gullible usenet freaks can be.

My my you are touchy.

My, my you are an asshole.

Did your momma never learn you manners boy ?

Anytime you want to try and learn me, asshole, go for it. No lying
usenet
freak has ever had the balls.... Clue time, fish. You just got
played,
and
you look like a cowardly fool.

Stop acting like Reiman

Stop being a dumb**** who just got played by one of the most
despicable,
dickless freaks on usenet. Now go **** yourself.

You sure know how to go about winning frineds sonny.

If the OP was trying to get your goat he sure succeded.

Holy ****, you really are a dumb****. Not only a dickless coward, a
lying
piece of ****, and a usenet asshole, but a truly dumb fish.
Clue time, dumb****. If you were the kind of man I want as a friend,
you'd
apologize. But you're a usenet asshole, talking **** while hiding behind
your computer.
Now go **** yourself. You've been played by two people, and you're so
****ing stupid you don't knowit.


I think I understand now.
You hate your mom for all those years she brought men around...
You hate her becuase you no ont who your daddy is.

Get some help for your hate.


As I was saying about you being a dickless, nutless usenet asshole?
Got the balls to say that in person, freak?


Actually, I do.
Do you have the balls to say what you had already said to me, to my
face?

Probably not.

Of course not. You just hide behind your computer and project your bull****
onto others.
Now go **** yourself. Typical usenet freak.


Projecting, again

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Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Tankfixer July 6th 07 08:11 PM

OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
 
In article . com,
mumbled
On Jul 5, 7:37 pm, Tankfixer wrote:
In article ,
mumbled





In article ,
"Scott Abraham" wrote:


"Tankfixer" wrote in message
link.net...
In article ,
mumbled


"Tankfixer" wrote in message
hlink.net...
In article ,
mumbled
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 18:20:14 GMT, Tankfixer
wrote this crap:


I graduated from West Point along with a good number of other
fine
Marines. My major was ROTC in which I have a degree. I have a
master's
degree in amphibious and littoral warfare and did my thesis on
key
overlooked elements of the "forward from the sea" doctrine.


Only catching Air.


Sine the US Army doesn't HAVE Foot Guards Regiments I'd say its not
a
rank germain to the US Army, is it ?


ROTC as a major:
The next sentence starts with "The transcript says History Major"


Sssshhh! SSSSSH! Quiet already. This person is no ordinary
dumbass!


He majored ROTC at West Point, and graduated with three degrees.
Then
while an Ensign with the British Army, he outshot everyone at Camp
Perry, and was promoted to USMC Seal.


This is not someone to trifle with.


He tells me he read Clausewitz, and has an original copy of "The Art
of War" autographed by Sun Tzu!


Not only that, but he KNEW, he Knew, I tell you, that my copy of
Clausewitz is highlighted in crayon, and he knew that my wife is a
former dancer.


This person is far superior to us. I'd hate to have him learn my
name
and address.


Scott Abraham
1416 N 49th St
Seattle, WA 98103


He sounds so much like Doug Reiman with his silly claims too..


**** yourself, you stupid asshole. Horvath just made up some whoppers
and
went fishing for a real dumb****.....and he found you.
Never ceases to amaze me how gullible usenet freaks can be.


My my you are touchy.


My, my you are an asshole.


Did your momma never learn you manners boy ?


Anytime you want to try and learn me, asshole, go for it. No lying usenet
freak has ever had the balls.... Clue time, fish. You just got played, and
you look like a cowardly fool.


Stop acting like Reiman


Stop being a dumb**** who just got played by one of the most despicable,
dickless freaks on usenet. Now go **** yourself.


Just another newcomer judging you on what he sees, Scotty....


I suspect I'm posting from some other group than our friend.

alt.war.vietnam

--
Usenetsaurus n. an early pedantic internet mammal, who survived on a
diet of static text and
cascading "threads."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


We crosspost some of these tirades of his over on Vietnam groups since
we've busted him posing as anything from Vietnam Vet, wounded in some
versions, College Journalist (forced to kill with his bare hands), and
ex-Navy S.E.A.L.


Wow, he is some piece of work


He's so full of lies and delusions (I guess we don't need to tell
you!) that it's pretty easy to get him chasing his tail and he slinks
away for awhile.

Then when he gets tired of noone talking about him he comes back for
more abuse.

When he talks about not knowing your name blah blah blah, remember
that he has met me. Knows where I live, my real name, employer,
everything. I told him many times this season alone where I would be
skiing and where to meet me at specific times. I have killed him on
the group but have arrangements for notification were he to agree to a
prespecified meeting. Never happened.

But what good is a joke if you can't laugh at it? Do like we do, get a
good laugh and don't really concern yourself. With any luck he'll be
dead soon and there will be more air for magots or something else more
worthy.


You know why he never agrees to show up ?
He is too young to drive and can't get his mommy to drive him..



--
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diet of static text and
cascading "threads."

Capt. JG July 7th 07 10:00 AM

OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
 
"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 03 Jul 2007 00:10:29 GMT, "Capt. Lewry"
wrote:


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Capt. Lewry" wrote in message
t...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
And, what about the person who can't afford the hedge? S/he's just
supposed to lump it I suppose.

Sell your boat and help her.



Help who?

The Bombardier

I'm the bombardier?, I'm OK.



Help him...


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Capt. JG July 7th 07 10:01 AM

OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
 
"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:


"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 18:19:08 -0700, "Capt. JG"

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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 09:48:00 -0700, "Capt. JG"

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On Sat, 30 Jun 2007 11:02:01 -0000, thunder

wrote:




On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 18:36:25 -0700, Bart wrote:





What's the problem with government health systems?

What's more important, continued support for a private health
care
system,
or American jobs? It seems
to be overlooked that our health care system costs upwards of
15% GDP,
while those countries with
universal health care spend @10% GDP. That extra 5% is the
reason is
the
reason our automotive
sector is fleeing north, expanding operations in Canada, while
curtailing
them here. In a global economy,
5% extra cost puts us at a considerable economic disadvantage.
Ignore
that at your peril.


All manufacturing is fleeing, not just automotive, and health
care
cost is a major driver. I know, I've been there. But universal
health care is not the answer.

Just recently, at a medical school close to my home, the state
legislature mandated to the board of higher education that the
number
of seats be increased. There is a very large supply of eligible
candidates, many don't get in. It is the AMA's very sucessful,
long
standing attempt to control the supply side, keeping fee
schedules
very high.




That's just job losses. Let's not consider the lower life
expectancy
and
higher infant mortality our health
system provides.

Our health care system doesn't have anything to do with this. It
is a
matter of lifestyle choices. Want a lower infant mortality rate?
how
about a lower rate of teen mothers on drugs and alcohol. Want a
longer life expectancy? How about everyone get off your buns and
get
some exercise and drop the high fat, high sugar diet.

Frank
Who runs 36 miles a week and at 60 has no aging diseases. No
diabetes, no high blood pressure, no cardiovascular issues, no
joint,
ligament, or cartilage issues.


Universal health care is available in all modern cultures except
ours. I'm
sure we're glad you're healthy and can afford health care, but no
one has
a
contract with God.


And you miss the entire point. Adopting healthier lifestyles has
nothing to do with having a contract with God. It just diminishes
the
need for the" healthcare" that we have come to believe is an
entitlement in this country, that is we can eat horribly, be obese,
smoke, lead completely sedentary lives, and if pregnant, take
drugs,
alcohol and smoke, and we or our newborn will remain healthy, and
if
that doesn't work, someone else has to pay to make it happen.

Anything the government has ever gotten involved in that requires
cost
control and reasonable product or service has been a disaster.

Frank

And you've missed the point as well... all of your attempts to
remain
healthy are great, but that has little to do with the money required
to save
your life or give you a decent quality of life if you get sick and
don't
have insurance.

It is the point. I go to the doctor once a year for him to tell me
I'm healthy. There is no burdon on the system. Of course I'm paying
an exorbitant amount for health insurance which I don't need in order
to pay for those that have not made those healthy lifestyle choices.
That's how it works, and the only thing that can make it worse is for
the government to step in.






The VA insurance is a great example of gov't run healthcare
that for the most part works. They can negotiate prices for drugs,
they
serve a vast community, mostly quite well.

So have you used the VA system? I had two close relatives now
deceased, who used the excellent VA system. father in law was one of
them. I'm not even going to comment on your assessment of it as a
system that works "quite well"





You're very quick to say that healthcare is an entitlement, as
though it
isn't needed, not really. It is needed and that's demonstrated by
the
millions who are uninsured, pushing up the costs for those who are.
It's
demonstrated by people's inability to get affordable insurance that
sticks
with them, rather than changes with their employer. A child of four
getting
cancer is not a life-style problem, but gods forbid if that child's
parents
couldn't afford decent health insurance.


No, what I said is that we seem to believe we can live horrible
lifestyles and we have an entitlement to have some system that is
subsidized by others, either the government or the people in a group
who are making the healthy choices, to offset the effects of those
poor lifestyle choices. That's what sucks up the resources that
would
be available for those exceptional cases where the illness is no
fault
of the patient. And please site the case where a four year old is
not
treated for cancer, whatever the financial status of the parents.




We're very, very quick to talk about "freedom," but we sure are slow
to talk
about decency when it comes to our own

And with that statement, I wonder why I even bother to respond.

Frank



Why are you paying for health insurance if you claim you don't and
won't need it? Seems foolish. You are free to drop your health
insurance coverage at any time.



Insurance is just that...the hedge agaisnt the bet that you may or may
not need it...but in one respect, you're correct...if a person is
magnificently healthy, then putting the money into an HSA might be a
better thing to do...



Frank just got telling us that he doesn't need insurance because he's
healthy. Can't imagine why he would need an HSA either.


To hedge that bet that something might happen...like falling off a ladder
while painting his soffits, say...




And, what about the person who can't afford the hedge? S/he's just
supposed to lump it I suppose.


There are many other ways to get medical coverage...there are all types of
free clinics...Catholic hospitals treat in ER's and do not turn away as do
other church based hostpiatls...ypeople are pnly as limited as the amount
of eddort they want to put into finding a wa Y..there is nothing free in
this world...there is a price to everything, one way or the other...get
real...you are seeking a utopia that does not, and will npt, ever exist on
this earth...



Sure whatever... try going to a free clinic for leukemia.

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Capt. JG July 7th 07 10:02 AM

OT Michael Moore proves he is the sicko
 
"katy" wrote in message
...
thunder wrote:
On Wed, 04 Jul 2007 09:01:01 -0400, katy wrote:



What everyone forgets that even in socialist and communist countries,
pople still have to work for what they receive...in some places, if you
are not cotributing to society, you just "disappear"...or the amount of
your "needs" is determined by the Great Machine, not you....



Geez, Katy, you may want to update your world view. They are currently
*five* communist countries in the world, China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea,
and Vietnam. If you'll notice, several of those countries are major
trading partners keeping WalMart's shelves stocked with cheap goods.


And you think that's a good thing? Many of those products are made by
prisoners, children in deplorable condition, and almost slave like labor
facilities...our oldest son and my brother have been to most of those
countires listed...their reports back are not stellar...my brother is
involved with an international corporation that deals with trade with
several of those countries...he was appalled at what he found in them...

As for socialist countries, it is difficult to find one that isn't, at
least in some aspects, including our own. Of course, we won't mention
all the capitalist false democracies, dictatorships, and tyrannies. They
are abundant.



Long live capitalism... exporting slave labor. Wow. What an advancement!
Where do I sign up.

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