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On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 11:24:01 -0500, Ben Turpin
wrote:

I need some recommendations for a pocket cruiser in the size 18-22 ft.
It must be trailerable. I've looked at the more obvious ones such as
the Catalina 22 and WWP-19. Any others I should look at? At Compacs
really worth the premium?

Thanks in advance,

Ben

Check out the Pacific Seacraft 20' Flicka.
It's trailorable but in the upper range.
Ocean-built tough boat but slow.
Mark E. Williams

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Looks like Bubbles wins again.... he knows far more entertainment
trivia than I ever will.



I also know more about clissical music, photography, painting, classic
literature and of course film of any generation. Trailer trash like
you and Scotty will always diminish the arts because you can't
understand it. Top 40 mentality is all you have. The fact that my wife
didn't force me to buy a powerboat is simply the last straw for you,
Doug. I'm going sailing this afternoon after I install a new main
(which I sold) on a Hunter 43.
Have fun powering around!



RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote:

Looks like Bubbles wins again.... he knows far more entertainment
trivia than I ever will.

I also know more ****trivea*** aboutclissical music, photography, painting, classic
literature and of course , ****have no appreciation or understanding of any of the arts.



Cheers
Marty

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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
"Capt. Rob" wrote:

Looks like Bubbles wins again.... he knows far more
entertainment
trivia than I ever will.

I also know more ****trivea*** aboutclissical music,
photography, painting, classic
literature and of course , ****have no appreciation or
understanding of any of the arts.


not very hard to Google up some obsolete trivia, and then
play the snobby ''film'' expert, eh?

Scotty

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I also know more ****trivea*** aboutclissical music, photography, painting, classic
literature and of course , ****have no appreciation or understanding of any of the arts.



I get that feeling that poor Marty prefers "More than a Feeling" over
"Wish you were Here." He probably has the 3 Tenors on VHS along with a
Anne Sophie Mutter cassette and labels himself a sophisticate.

What can ya do?! Trailer trash lives on.

RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. **** Head Rob" wrote in message
oups.com..
..
I also know more ****trivea*** aboutclissical music,
photography, painting, classic
literature and of course , ****have no appreciation or
understanding of any of the arts.



I get that feeling that poor Marty prefers "More than a
Feeling" over
"Wish you were Here." He probably has the 3 Tenors on VHS
along with a
Anne Sophie Mutter cassette and labels himself a
sophisticate.



*I* get the feeling that Marty prefers what he likes, and
not what he thinks will impress others.

SBV

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*I* get the feeling that Marty prefers what he likes, and
not what he thinks will impress others.



And he hopes that attitude impresses poor Scotty, king of Trailer
Trash!
You can learn a lot by what a man likes!


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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*I* get the feeling that Marty prefers what he likes, and
not what he thinks will impress others.



And he hopes that attitude impresses poor Scotty,

Nope, Marty could care less what impresses me, and *that's*
impessive!







soccer Mom wrote....

You can learn a lot by what a man drives!

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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I also know more about clissical music, photography, painting, classic
literature and of course film of any generation. Trailer trash like
you and Scotty will always diminish the arts because you can't
understand it.


Yes, your taste for architecture says it all.

Moo-hoo-haa-haa!!!!!!

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"Capt. Rob" wrote:
I also know more about clissical music, photography, painting, classic
literature and of course film of any generation.

You mean classical music? When was the last time you saw James Galway?
When was the last time you went to a private concert at a
conservatory?

Painting? When was the last time a curator invited you into the
museum's storage area to see & discuss master works not on public
display? When was the last time this happened to you in a Paris
museum?

Literature? What do you consider "classic literature"? Tell us the
last 3 books you read, Bubbles.

I don't know or care anything about photography or "film" (movies,
right?). Sitting around being entertained is not a priority for me.

... The fact that my wife
didn't force me to buy a powerboat is simply the last straw for you,

??
You mean my wife, who is one of the best spinnaker crews in our area?.

.... I'm going sailing this afternoon after I install a new main
(which I sold) on a Hunter 43.

Wow! You know how to "install" new sails!!

Have fun powering around!


We're having lots of fun, thanks. It's been a great cruise so far.
You?

DSK

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wrote in message
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"

Painting? When was the last time a curator invited you
into the
museum's storage area to see & discuss master works not on
public
display?

I was invited into the employee lounge of the Battlecreek MI
Museum for free coffee and croissants.

Does that count?

Scotty

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* Dave wrote, On 6/22/2007 4:10 PM:
On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 12:44:03 -0700, said:

I also know more about clissical music, photography, painting, classic
literature and of course film of any generation.
You mean classical music? When was the last time you saw James Galway?
When was the last time you went to a private concert at a
conservatory?

I'll add a couple of more questions for Bobby.

For what character do you think Mozart wrote his most beautiful operatic
music?

Where is the standing room located at the Vienna State Opera?

What characteristic of that opera house's program causes its high production
costs?

You're just picking on poor Booby. The least you could do is give him
a question that he really has a chance of knowing. Like, which famous
film reviewer served in the merchant marines and died aboard a liberty
ship in WWII? For which reviews is he still studied, and for which
other fields did he do reviews?

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And he hopes that attitude impresses poor Scotty, king of Trailer
Trash!


I saw those pictures of your double-wide on a foundation there in the
woods, Booby. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
Bwaaaaaaahahahahhahahahah!

Wilbur Hubbard

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When was the last time you went to a private concert at a
conservatory?


My ex-girlfriend held a private trio in her home just two weeks ago,
Doug. But I don't view someone's interest in classic music as anything
that requires live performances. I have friends that prefer great
historical recordings for example...and for very gooid reason. Like
me, they invest is remarkable systems to hear that music daily. That
speaks more about musical passion than just going to dinner and a
show. Just about everyone I know likes that and has enough casual
interest in classical works to enjoy it. Pony up, boy!


Painting? When was the last time a curator invited you into the
museum's storage area to see & discuss master works not on public
display?


Well, let's see....not in a while. When my father retired we pretty
much stopped going to anything behind the scenes. But I've seen stuff
that few others have, such as 31 privately owned Picaso drawings that
have never been on display or loan. I've seen the Copper Man. I am
currently talking with my dealer friend about possibly buying a
Lautrec drawing in the near future. I almost went through with such a
purchase a few years ago. Now I'm considering it again.


Literature? What do you consider "classic literature"?


None of the last three books I read were "classic", but they we Man
in the High Tower, Reclaiming History and Get a Life by William
Shatner.


I don't know or care anything about photography or "film" (movies,
right?). Sitting around being entertained is not a priority for me.



Your attitute about it is pathetically limited. Of course it takes far
more investment in time and mental faculty to understand a film like
Pan's Labynth or The Draughtman's Contract that trailer trash is
willing to invest. But just stare at a painting for 3 minutes and
you're oh-so-sophistcated. Interesting that most modern great artists
don't feel as you do about film.I suppose that's because many were
involved with it on various levels.



You mean my wife, who is one of the best spinnaker crews in our
area?.


But not on YOUR boat, Doug. You just don't get that she removed your
balls and pocketed them. She is why you don't have that C&C you showed
her. She is why you turn a key and power off like a anyone towing an
airstream. You'll NEVER live it down.


Wow! You know how to "install" new sails!!


Yup. I've been getting steady training in sail construction as well.
Next week I'll be getting a new genoa for Heart of Gold made from a
new material. I'll be one of 9 boats flying such a sail and I'll be
paying zero for it. I'll be posting info and pics in another thread
about it. I'm on the inside now, Doug. I have professional
relationships and friendly ones in the sailing world. I look out and
see many types of sailors out there. Most are really sweet nice people
who have a sense of humor about themselves and their lifestyles. But
every now and again we run into your sort. You're a customer so we
treat you well, but we all know what you are...and who you are. I'm
way over your head now, Doug. It doesn't make me a better sailor, but
you can bet your ass anyone who knows me would prefer me for company
on their boat and listen more closely to what I have to say. In other
words...enjoy your trawler, Doug. I mean that.


We're having lots of fun, thanks. It's been a great cruise so far.
You?


I didn't sail today because I felt the Dutchman system on the 43 needs
to be cut off and I didn't want my rigger to go aloft due to wind and
wake action. Sailing tomorrow and Sunday and perhaps doing a long
weekend after that. I've taken one 3 cruise on a Grand Banks 42. After
that I decides that it's not really cruising. Cruising is for
sailboats. I'm glad that it's fun for you, but as you might notice the
rest of us have SAILboats, Doug. Our wives cared.
And that's the way it is.



RB
35s5
NY

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He has studiously avoided demonstrating his mechanical expertise by
telling
us about what he did to that old A4.


Dave, I never failed to give info on the A4, and I've done it more
than once. The A4 had water in it and we pulled the head and freed up
the valves. I pulled a carb from another A4 which was in better shape
and then got the motor running off the boat. Probably the toughest
part was getting the motor back in correct alignment.
As for the other questions...what's the point? I could look up
anything I don't know and I never professed to be an expert, only a
fan. I rarely bother with such questions as folks like Bob Crantz and
Doug are google-maniacs anyway.
I know cheap trailer trash and Doug fits that to a tee. His
explanation of why he doesn't watch films is all I need to hear.
Scotty, if possible, is an even lower form of life.
Gotta run now. I'm making some safety lines in my shop for a short
trip we're doing with Thomas in July for a raft-up in Port Jeff.


RB
35s5
NY

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anything I don't know and I never professed to be an expert, only a
fan.


Guess those pedals on your trail bike do turn backwards.



Nope. I maintain that Doug and Scotty are trailer trash and anyone who
avoids the cinema arts is a moron. Doug doesn't want to sit and be
entertained, as he claimed. I assume he stands at concerts. My guess
is that sitting cuts off the blood supply to his brain....directly.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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..


Doug. I have professional relationships

You're a hooker, too?



I look out and
see many types of sailors out there. Most are really sweet
nice people
who have a sense of humor about themselves and their
lifestyles.

And then there's Bob.

SBV

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"Capt. **** Head Rob" wrote in message
oups.com..
..



As for the other questions...what's the point? I could
look up
anything I don't know and I never professed to be an
expert, only a
fan. I rarely bother with such questions

What a side-step!

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On Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:34:16 -0000, "Capt. Rob"
wrote:

He has studiously avoided demonstrating his mechanical expertise by
telling
us about what he did to that old A4.


Dave, I never failed to give info on the A4, and I've done it more
than once. The A4 had water in it and we pulled the head and freed up
the valves.

Happened to mine, water muffler filled with scale over the years and
caused the volume to decrease. When shutting down the engine, there
needs to be enough room in the muffler to take the water that is over
center in the anti siphon loop. if not drains back the wrong way
seeping into the rear cylinder through the exhaust valve. took us a
long time to figure this out, it is not something that you would
normally consider as a cause.




I pulled a carb from another A4 which was in better shape

had to replace mine, after cleaning it a dozen or so times, found out
that the metal in the carb bowl was corroding and gumming up the main
jet. no amount of cleaning would give more than temporary relief.

found out you can buy that carb at any industrial supply house for a
lot less than a marine source.

and then got the motor running off the boat. Probably the toughest
part was getting the motor back in correct alignment.
As for the other questions...what's the point? I could look up
anything I don't know and I never professed to be an expert, only a
fan. I rarely bother with such questions as folks like Bob Crantz and
Doug are google-maniacs anyway.
I know cheap trailer trash and Doug fits that to a tee. His
explanation of why he doesn't watch films is all I need to hear.
Scotty, if possible, is an even lower form of life.
Gotta run now. I'm making some safety lines in my shop for a short
trip we're doing with Thomas in July for a raft-up in Port Jeff.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote:
My ex-girlfriend held a private trio in her home just two weeks ago,
Doug. But I don't view someone's interest in classic music as anything
that requires live performances.

Of course not.

.... I have friends that prefer great
historical recordings for example...and for very gooid reason. Like
me, they invest is remarkable systems to hear that music daily. That
speaks more about musical passion than just going to dinner and a
show. Just about everyone I know likes that and has enough casual
interest in classical works to enjoy it. Pony up, boy!


What a backpedal. Nothing you've said indicates the you yourself have
any knowledge of classical music.... BTW what's the difference between
classical & baroque?

If you consider going to a concert by one of the all-time greats such
as James Galway or Itzhak Perlman as "dinner & a show" then you should
give your ticket to somebody who can appreciate it.

Painting? When was the last time a curator invited you into the
museum's storage area to see & discuss master works not on public
display?

Well, let's see....not in a while. When my father retired we pretty
much stopped going to anything behind the scenes. But I've seen stuff
that few others have, such as 31 privately owned Picaso drawings that
have never been on display or loan. I've seen the Copper Man. I am
currently talking with my dealer friend about possibly buying a
Lautrec drawing in the near future. I almost went through with such a
purchase a few years ago. Now I'm considering it again.


Yeah I bet.

Picasso was an outstanding genius but he wasted most of his life & his
talent being Picasso. The most impressive work of his that I've seen
was in the Picasso museum in Paris, a small collage of a bullfight.
When you look at it the first time, it looks like a colored paper &
tinfoil collage of a bullfight scene. When you look closely, you
realize it's a painting... and that it's extraordinarily realistic.

Now tell us about any exhibits of Renoir or Van Gogh or Breughel etc
etc you may have seen & remembered.



None of the last three books I read were "classic", but they we Man
in the High Tower, Reclaiming History and Get a Life by William
Shatner.


"Man in the High Tower" could be considered a classic by some sci-fi
fans. Not his best IMHO.


I don't know or care anything about photography or "film" (movies,
right?). Sitting around being entertained is not a priority for me.



Your attitute about it is pathetically limited.


Not really. I have a lot of other things to do with my life.



You mean my wife, who is one of the best spinnaker crews in our
area?.

But not on YOUR boat, Doug. You just don't get that she removed your
balls and pocketed them. She is why you don't have that C&C you showed
her. She is why you turn a key and power off like a anyone towing an
airstream. You'll NEVER live it down.


??
You seem to be rather bitter, Bubbles, and you certainly have a
negative view of marriage.

Do you mean that you only have a boat because your wife lets you?


Wow! You know how to "install" new sails!!

Yup. I've been getting steady training in sail construction as well.
Next week I'll be getting a new genoa for Heart of Gold made from a
new material. I'll be one of 9 boats flying such a sail and I'll be
paying zero for it.

Now all you have to do is learn to actually sail.

DSK

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On Sat, 23 Jun 2007 01:18:58 -0000, "Capt. Rob"
wrote:

anything I don't know and I never professed to be an expert, only a
fan.


Guess those pedals on your trail bike do turn backwards.



Nope. I maintain that Doug and Scotty are trailer trash and anyone who
avoids the cinema arts is a moron. Doug doesn't want to sit and be
entertained, as he claimed. I assume he stands at concerts. My guess
is that sitting cuts off the blood supply to his brain....directly.

I watched Ghost Rider starring Nick Cage last night. A shallow and
poorly defined story line, but the effects kept me on it to the end.
Besides, when I start laughing at a movie or leave abruptly my wife
gets ****ed, so I grinned and bore it for the sake of domestic peace.
At least she's given up trying to make me watch chick movies with her.
Ghostriders: 1 1/2 stars.

--Vic

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"Capt. Rob" wrote:

You can learn a lot by what a man likes!

Finally, some truth from the Boobster! And since he has no idea what I
like, and we know exactly what he likes......


Cheers
Marty

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"Capt. Rob" wrote:

I also know more ****trivea*** aboutclissical music, photography, painting, classic
literature and of course , ****have no appreciation or understanding of any of the arts.

I get that feeling that poor Marty prefers "More than a Feeling" over
"Wish you were Here." He probably has the 3 Tenors on VHS along with a
Anne Sophie Mutter cassette and labels himself a sophisticate.

What can ya do?! Trailer trash lives on.


Ah, such wit, I'm awed, your talents are wasted here Bob, perhaps you
should take up a career writing dialogue for the likes of Wayne and
Garth's Excellent Adventure and other such "artistic" masterpieces.

You remain the 'Charlie the Tuna' of this group.

Cheers
Marty
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And since he has no idea what I
like, and we know exactly what he likes......



Hmmmm. I like Music and cinema. I like sailing and astronomy. I like
to read. I like women and fine food. I like to cook. I like cars and
nature.
Gosh....I"M THE MONSTER OF ASA!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!



RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. **** Head Rob" wrote


Hmmmm. I like Music ( but can't play any instruments)
and cinema( failed miserably at directing).
I like sailing ( can't sail worth a damn)
and astronomy ( have low end ccrappy gear, just ask BC)
I like to read ( till my mouth gets tired)
. I like greasy women and fatty foods (or vice versa)
. I like cookies ( it shaows)
. I like cars ( can't afford a nice one, though)
Most of all, I like to lie!

Gosh....I"M THE ASSHOLE OF ASA!!!!


Yulp

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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And since he has no idea what I
like, and we know exactly what he likes......



Hmmmm. I like Music and cinema. I like sailing and astronomy. I like
to read. I like women and fine food. I like to cook. I like cars and
nature.
Gosh....I"M THE MONSTER OF ASA!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!



RB
35s5
NY


You really should get some help for that maniacal AHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!