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Yup, Bob Crantz was wrong again. I generally back up what I say and
this is no different. I did pony up for the faster GT Turbo and here she is.... http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...rit/RobsGT.jpg That's Diamond Gray, loaded with the SI power curve system and a CAI installed along with a heat shield. Full leather and all the toys. I already nailed it through the twisty stuff and she's fantastic. A little too much luxury though, so I'll swap out for some more aggresive springs. Great little sedan. Now for that Lotus Elise for next summer! RB 35s5 NY |
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On May 25, 8:02 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Yup, Bob Crantz was wrong again. I generally back up what I say and this is no different. I did pony up for the faster GT Turbo and here she is.... http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...rit/RobsGT.jpg That's Diamond Gray, loaded with the SI power curve system and a CAI installed along with a heat shield. Full leather and all the toys. I already nailed it through the twisty stuff and she's fantastic. A little too much luxury though, so I'll swap out for some more aggresive springs. Great little sedan. Now for that Lotus Elise for next summer! RB 35s5 NY Nice rice burner.........I guess. Joe |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ps.com... Yup, Bob Crantz was wrong again. I generally back up what I say and this is no different. I did pony up for the faster GT Turbo and here she is.... http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...rit/RobsGT.jpg That's Diamond Gray, loaded with the SI power curve system and a CAI installed along with a heat shield. Full leather and all the toys. I already nailed it through the twisty stuff and she's fantastic. A little too much luxury though, so I'll swap out for some more aggresive springs. Great little sedan. Now for that Lotus Elise for next summer! It's a freaking taxicab, Material Girl. |
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Who were you visiting in West Virginia? What a hillbilly house.
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On 25 May 2007 18:02:49 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Yup, Bob Crantz was wrong again. I generally back up what I say and this is no different. I did pony up for the faster GT Turbo and here she is.... http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p...rit/RobsGT.jpg That's Diamond Gray, loaded with the SI power curve system and a CAI installed along with a heat shield. Full leather and all the toys. I already nailed it through the twisty stuff and she's fantastic. A little too much luxury though, so I'll swap out for some more aggresive springs. Great little sedan. Now for that Lotus Elise for next summer! RB 35s5 NY Why would anyone add a CAI system to a turbocharged engine? They only work for aspirated engines. For your set up you get absolutely no gain in hp or torque and it reduces the turbo life. The pressure differential on the turbo is less causing it to operate at higher rpm. The turbo winds up dumping all that extra air any how. Some even say the CAI tube retunes the intake and makes for even more problems for the turbo. What good are those springs without changing the struts? The spring rebound will shorten the life of the strut. You may have some gain in the compression phase of the strut but you lose it all in the expansion phase. Your best investment would be very light wheels and a set of very good preformance tires. Of course this all adds to the expansion problems of your stiffer springs. Aviation fuel is highly recommended. Good luck with your new toy. Norm Howe |
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Why would anyone add a CAI system to a turbocharged engine? They only
work for aspirated engines. For your set up you get absolutely no gain in hp or torque and it reduces the turbo life. The pressure differential on the turbo is less causing it to operate at higher rpm. The turbo winds up dumping all that extra air any how. Some even say the CAI tube retunes the intake and makes for even more problems for the turbo. What good are those springs without changing the struts? You're pretty much wrong on this. I've driven a LGT with these mods at the differences are easy to note, especially on the suspension tweak. The springs are designed to work with the stock struts. By the way, the CAI is sold by Subaru for the LGT along with the heat shield. So you're claiming Subaru is selling a part that will shorten turbo life in the face of the long extended warranty they offer? No one, not even the heavy modders seem to agree with you. Most exhaust builders reccomend a stock CAI on turbocharged cars and I will also be adding an exhaust. RB 35s5 NY |
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On 29 May 2007 22:08:22 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Why would anyone add a CAI system to a turbocharged engine? They only work for aspirated engines. For your set up you get absolutely no gain in hp or torque and it reduces the turbo life. The pressure differential on the turbo is less causing it to operate at higher rpm. The turbo winds up dumping all that extra air any how. Some even say the CAI tube retunes the intake and makes for even more problems for the turbo. What good are those springs without changing the struts? You're pretty much wrong on this. I've driven a LGT with these mods at the differences are easy to note, especially on the suspension tweak. The springs are designed to work with the stock struts. By the way, the CAI is sold by Subaru for the LGT along with the heat shield. So you're claiming Subaru is selling a part that will shorten turbo life in the face of the long extended warranty they offer? No one, not even the heavy modders seem to agree with you. Most exhaust builders reccomend a stock CAI on turbocharged cars and I will also be adding an exhaust. RB 35s5 NY You may wish to hire a suspension expert and go with a 16 setting Takico strut system for your car. That may be the only way you will see and understand a real difference. Visit a local track, have a knowledgeable and experienced driver take you out to show you the ropes. Playing race driver on public roads is dangerous and shows lack of judgement on your part. As far as your turbo goes, Subaru is famous for their undersized turbos. If you could provide some real dyno numbers for your setup it may then be a bit more objective. As far as turbo lifetime, as I said Subaru is notorious for being undersized. In fact, "heavy modders" replace the unit with one that is larger and higher quality. More horsepower means more work and stress by the engine components creating the horsepower. You don't get something for free. The $200 bolt on kits that you are playing with does change the performance of the car. There are subtle tradeoffs and you don't seem to be aware of any. As far as an exhaust system goes, the bottleneck is the turbo. You will never get a correctly tuned exhaust system on that car. It would be better to upgrade the turbo, upgrade the struts, wheels and tires. There you may be looking at 10K worth of mods for some real performance. Make sure you enjoy all that performance at the race track, not amongst average/poor drivers on their daily commute to work. Norm Howe |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote:
Why would anyone add a CAI system to a turbocharged engine? They only work for aspirated engines. For your set up you get absolutely no gain in hp or torque and it reduces the turbo life. The pressure differential on the turbo is less causing it to operate at higher rpm. The turbo winds up dumping all that extra air any how. Some even say the CAI tube retunes the intake and makes for even more problems for the turbo. What good are those springs without changing the struts? You're pretty much wrong on this. I've driven a LGT with these mods at the differences are easy to note, especially on the suspension tweak. The springs are designed to work with the stock struts. By the way, the CAI is sold by Subaru for the LGT along with the heat shield. So you're claiming Subaru is selling a part that will shorten turbo life in the face of the long extended warranty they offer? No one, not even the heavy modders seem to agree with you. Most exhaust builders reccomend a stock CAI on turbocharged cars and I will also be adding an exhaust. Sure Bob, next it'll be NOX, rebore, recam, get rid of the turbo add SC and run nitro. Oh, don't forget the sodium valves! Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ---------------------- For a quality mail server, try SurgeMail, easy to install, fast, efficient and reliable. Run a million users on a standard PC running NT or Unix without running out of power, use the best! ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_surgemail.htm ---- |
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"Norm Howe" wrote in message ... On 29 May 2007 22:08:22 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote: Why would anyone add a CAI system to a turbocharged engine? They only work for aspirated engines. For your set up you get absolutely no gain in hp or torque and it reduces the turbo life. The pressure differential on the turbo is less causing it to operate at higher rpm. The turbo winds up dumping all that extra air any how. Some even say the CAI tube retunes the intake and makes for even more problems for the turbo. What good are those springs without changing the struts? You're pretty much wrong on this. I've driven a LGT with these mods at the differences are easy to note, especially on the suspension tweak. The springs are designed to work with the stock struts. By the way, the CAI is sold by Subaru for the LGT along with the heat shield. So you're claiming Subaru is selling a part that will shorten turbo life in the face of the long extended warranty they offer? No one, not even the heavy modders seem to agree with you. Most exhaust builders reccomend a stock CAI on turbocharged cars and I will also be adding an exhaust. RB 35s5 NY You may wish to hire a suspension expert and go with a 16 setting Takico strut system for your car. That may be the only way you will see and understand a real difference. Visit a local track, have a knowledgeable and experienced driver take you out to show you the ropes. Playing race driver on public roads is dangerous and shows lack of judgement on your part. As far as your turbo goes, Subaru is famous for their undersized turbos. If you could provide some real dyno numbers for your setup it may then be a bit more objective. As far as turbo lifetime, as I said Subaru is notorious for being undersized. In fact, "heavy modders" replace the unit with one that is larger and higher quality. More horsepower means more work and stress by the engine components creating the horsepower. You don't get something for free. The $200 bolt on kits that you are playing with does change the performance of the car. There are subtle tradeoffs and you don't seem to be aware of any. As far as an exhaust system goes, the bottleneck is the turbo. You will never get a correctly tuned exhaust system on that car. It would be better to upgrade the turbo, upgrade the struts, wheels and tires. There you may be looking at 10K worth of mods for some real performance. Make sure you enjoy all that performance at the race track, not amongst average/poor drivers on their daily commute to work. Norm Howe Bubbles' desire isn't on-road performance, Norm. He's only seeking bragging rights, but I've trumped him with a Lotus Exige Sport, which is on order. His Legacy may have slightly better straight-line performance, but it won't stay with the Lotus in the track. And he can't stand it. g Max |
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The $200 bolt on kits that you are playing with does change the
performance of the car. There are subtle tradeoffs and you don't seem to be aware of any. What 200 dollar kits? The Cobb programming module is not 200 dollars, nor is a CAI and exhaust. I'm not interested in race track performance. I'm interested in small tweaks for fun driving on local roads that are generally empty. I have direct experience with these subtle mods on a 2005 LGT and it's clear that you don't. A bump to 285 HP and the addition of pink springs is not going to hurt anything, and if you read the LGT and WRX forums, then you know this already. As for the stock performance, a AWD sedan with a great Q factor that can outrun most European SD's is pretty cool. RB 35s5 NY |
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Bubbles' desire isn't on-road performance, Norm. He's only seeking
bragging rights, but I've trumped him with a Lotus Exige Sport, which is on order. His Legacy may have slightly better straight-line performance, Bragging rights on a Subaru GT sedan? Haven't you been claiming you're buying a Lotus? A LGT will not outrun the Exige. What specs are you looking at? RB 35s5 NY |
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On May 30, 1:10 pm, Dave wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:51:17 -0500, Martin Baxter said: Sure Bob, next it'll be NOX, rebore, recam, get rid of the turbo add SC and run nitro. Oh, don't forget the sodium valves! Wonder whether BS has ever actually pulled an engine apart himself and put it back together. Atomic 4 in my old Pearson 30. It's a very simple engine, fun and easy to work on. I've never worked on a modern engine, nor would I want to. RB 35s5 NY |
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On 30 May 2007 11:44:30 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
The $200 bolt on kits that you are playing with does change the performance of the car. There are subtle tradeoffs and you don't seem to be aware of any. What 200 dollar kits? The Cobb programming module is not 200 dollars, nor is a CAI and exhaust. I'm not interested in race track performance. I'm interested in small tweaks for fun driving on local roads that are generally empty. I have direct experience with these subtle mods on a 2005 LGT and it's clear that you don't. A bump to 285 HP and the addition of pink springs is not going to hurt anything, and if you read the LGT and WRX forums, then you know this already. As for the stock performance, a AWD sedan with a great Q factor that can outrun most European SD's is pretty cool. RB 35s5 NY They are $200 kits. Springs, CAI or exhaust. The CAI works because the turbo is anemic. Over rev the turbo with the new exhaust and CAI and see what happens. You have no direct experience with anything other than $200 kits. No wheels, tunable struts, turbo upgrade, or anything requiring work and $$$$. You don't even mention the well known fuel pump lag. You have never been on a track or a club member. Instead you play Mario Andretti wannabe on public highways. If your streets are so empty why do you claim to have beaten a Porsche and raced a Corvette already? At what track? You are out looking for races on public roads. You are dangerous and risk the lives of innocent people.Please, get some performance driving lessons and buy a block of time at a track. The people you won't kill will thank you for it. Stop being a jerk. Norm Howe |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Bubbles' desire isn't on-road performance, Norm. He's only seeking bragging rights, but I've trumped him with a Lotus Exige Sport, which is on order. His Legacy may have slightly better straight-line performance, Bragging rights on a Subaru GT sedan? Haven't you been claiming you're buying a Lotus? A LGT will not outrun the Exige. What specs are you looking at? RB 35s5 NY Is there any car or boat you haven't driven, sailed, or owned? |
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They are $200 kits. Springs, CAI or exhaust. The CAI works because the turbo is anemic. Uh, you just wrote that the CAI only works on normally aspirated engines. Now it works because the turbo is anemic. Oops. If you're gonna troll via googling at least try to keep track of what you write. Sorry, you crashed fast. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:51:17 -0500, Martin Baxter said: Sure Bob, next it'll be NOX, rebore, recam, get rid of the turbo add SC and run nitro. Oh, don't forget the sodium valves! Wonder whether BS has ever actually pulled an engine apart himself and put it back together. Nay, nay. That would negate his bragging rights at being able to afford to *pay* for such things. Max |
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"Dave" wrote in message ... On 30 May 2007 11:50:21 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said: Wonder whether BS has ever actually pulled an engine apart himself and put it back together. Atomic 4 in my old Pearson 30. So you did the upper end, rings and lower end on the A4 yourself? Spark plugs. Oh, and an oil change. Max |
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Dave wrote:
On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:51:17 -0500, Martin Baxter said: Sure Bob, next it'll be NOX, rebore, recam, get rid of the turbo add SC and run nitro. Oh, don't forget the sodium valves! Wonder whether BS has ever actually pulled an engine apart himself and put it back together. Not likely, he doesn't own any metric adjustable wrenches. Cheers Marty |
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All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight
line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. Norm Howe |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:51:17 -0500, Martin Baxter said: Sure Bob, next it'll be NOX, rebore, recam, get rid of the turbo add SC and run nitro. Oh, don't forget the sodium valves! Wonder whether BS has ever actually pulled an engine apart himself and put it back together. Not likely, he doesn't own any metric adjustable wrenches. I'm sure BB will loan him a complete set of Whitworths. They'll fit everything from SAE to metric. Max |
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"Norm Howe" wrote in message ... All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. I'd recommend SCCA SOLO II events for Bubbles. He can get his jollies with his econo-rocket and might just learn something about driving skills in the process. All safe and secure in someone's after-hours parking lot with nothing but orange cones to hit. Max |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:31:47 -0700, Norm Howe wrote: All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. Norm Howe Automotive expert Norm Howe drives a 2002 P-O-N-T-I-A-C! Bwhahahahahahaha! Your point? Helio Castroneves drives a 1996 Chevy Caprice. Max |
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"Norm Howe" wrote in message ... You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. that's the only way he can ''win'' a race. same with his boat. S |
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On May 31, 9:14 am, "Maxprop" wrote:
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:31:47 -0700, Norm Howe wrote: All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. Norm Howe Automotive expert Norm Howe drives a 2002 P-O-N-T-I-A-C! Bwhahahahahahaha! Your point? Helio Castroneves drives a 1996 Chevy Caprice. Max- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Sam Walton drove a 72 ford truck until he died. Some people do not have the need to brag or try to impress others with fancy trinkets. Joe |
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On May 31, 10:53 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 31 May 2007 08:48:59 -0700, Joe wrote: On May 31, 9:14 am, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:31:47 -0700, Norm Howe wrote: All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. Norm Howe Automotive expert Norm Howe drives a 2002 P-O-N-T-I-A-C! Bwhahahahahahaha! Your point? Helio Castroneves drives a 1996 Chevy Caprice. Max- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Sam Walton drove a 72 ford truck until he died. Some people do not have the need to brag or try to impress others with fancy trinkets. Joe Really? Did you ever visit Sam Walton's house? It was designed by Fay Jones, an apprentice of Frank Lloyd Wright, and was custom built from the best material available. No expense spared. CWM- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - http://aperture.photopholio.com/arch...7872788/149462 It's a nice truck, why woulden't he drive it daily until he died? WTF was he going to use to haul around his dogs in.... a Rolls Royce? Building a quality home with the best materials available is a smart conservative more. I bet it's worth now double what he spent constructing it. Also I bet it has a low maintance bill. Buying an overpriced thin skinned rice burner thats worth 1/2 what you paid for it the second it rolled out the door is not very wise. Then racing on "seldom" used winding roads is supreme stupity and proves just what a putz Rob is. Joe |
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On Thu, 31 May 2007 03:27:50 GMT, "Maxprop" said: Wonder whether BS has ever actually pulled an engine apart himself and put it back together. Nay, nay. That would negate his bragging rights at being able to afford to *pay* for such things. That's my suspicion, but perhaps we'll be pleasantly surprised. Maybe he even knows what plastigage is. He already knows, all Japanese cars have plastic gauges! gr Cheers Marty |
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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message ... Dave wrote: On Wed, 30 May 2007 10:51:17 -0500, Martin Baxter said: Sure Bob, next it'll be NOX, rebore, recam, get rid of the turbo add SC and run nitro. Oh, don't forget the sodium valves! Wonder whether BS has ever actually pulled an engine apart himself and put it back together. Not likely, he doesn't own any metric adjustable wrenches. I'm sure BB will loan him a complete set of Whitworths. They'll fit everything from SAE to metric. Interesting concept, one tool lending tools to another tool. ;-o Cheers Marty |
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Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No
mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Yup! It's all about me! You sure get ****y when you get busted in a bad troll! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! RB 35s5 NY |
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1996 Chevy Caprice.
I had a Caprice for a while, a retired NJ cop car. It was one of the few US built cars that was worth a damn. I also had a Crown Vic for a while, also a NJ cop car, which was pretty quick for such a boat. RB 35s5 NY |
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same with his boat.
Scotty's right. I race the 35s5 in heavy traffic. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 May 2007 14:14:24 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:31:47 -0700, Norm Howe wrote: All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. Norm Howe Automotive expert Norm Howe drives a 2002 P-O-N-T-I-A-C! Bwhahahahahahaha! Your point? Helio Castroneves drives a 1996 Chevy Caprice. Max Does he sell contact lenses, too? As a successful Formula One driver, he's rich beyond either your or my wildest dreams. He owns Ferraris, Lamborghinis, and other exotics, but chooses to drive a big Chevy. His comment: "Everyone is bonkers out there. I need protection." Max |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On 31 May 2007 08:48:59 -0700, Joe wrote: On May 31, 9:14 am, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:31:47 -0700, Norm Howe wrote: All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. Norm Howe Automotive expert Norm Howe drives a 2002 P-O-N-T-I-A-C! Bwhahahahahahaha! Your point? Helio Castroneves drives a 1996 Chevy Caprice. Max- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Sam Walton drove a 72 ford truck until he died. Some people do not have the need to brag or try to impress others with fancy trinkets. Joe Really? Did you ever visit Sam Walton's house? It was designed by Fay Jones, an apprentice of Frank Lloyd Wright, and was custom built from the best material available. No expense spared. Did it ever occur to you that his wife commissioned the house, not him. He was a blue jeans and t-shirt sort, and didn't care much for the trappings of obvious wealth. His wife, OTOH . . . Max |
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Bwhahahahahahaha! Your point? Helio Castroneves drives a 1996 Chevy Caprice. Max Does he sell contact lenses, too? As a successful Formula One driver, When, and for whom did Castroneves drive F1? Cheers Marty |
Rob, did I miss your answer to this?
Dave wrote:
On 31 May 2007 15:05:01 -0500, Dave said: On 30 May 2007 20:39:02 -0500, Dave said: Atomic 4 in my old Pearson 30. So you did the upper end, rings and lower end on the A4 yourself? I doubt he did anymore than hand the keys to the boat to the yard mechanic. Cheers Marty |
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On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:39:22 -0700, Juan Fangio wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:24:26 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:14:02 -0700, Juan Fangio wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:28:07 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:50:30 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On 31 May 2007 08:48:59 -0700, Joe wrote: On May 31, 9:14 am, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:31:47 -0700, Norm Howe wrote: All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. Norm Howe Automotive expert Norm Howe drives a 2002 P-O-N-T-I-A-C! Bwhahahahahahaha! Your point? Helio Castroneves drives a 1996 Chevy Caprice. Max- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Sam Walton drove a 72 ford truck until he died. Some people do not have the need to brag or try to impress others with fancy trinkets. Joe Really? Did you ever visit Sam Walton's house? It was designed by Fay Jones, an apprentice of Frank Lloyd Wright, and was custom built from the best material available. No expense spared. Did it ever occur to you that his wife commissioned the house, not him. He was a blue jeans and t-shirt sort, and didn't care much for the trappings of obvious wealth. His wife, OTOH . . . Max Oh, he didn't mind a few extravagances... Don't believe everything his PR department published. He didn't always drive that truck, either. CWM Don't believe everything vegetarians tell you either. Especially ones that hold family reunions at nudist camps! How does a vegetarian get so overweight anyway? The overhanging gut was bad enough, but couldn't someone throw a towel over the big fat dimpled ass? Juan Fangio You think Sam Walton was a vegetarian? I can assure you that he was not. I don't know about him being a nudist. Somehow, I doubt it. CWM Sam Walton and Ray Kroc were closet vegetarians. They are credited with starting the modern vegetarian movement. My father said that Sam Walton introduced him to barbecued catfish. Vegetarian? I don't think so! CWM You lie a lot. Maybe your Dad also lied a lot. Paul |
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:18:09 -0400, "PaulLindenburgh" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:39:22 -0700, Juan Fangio wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:24:26 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:14:02 -0700, Juan Fangio wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:28:07 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:50:30 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On 31 May 2007 08:48:59 -0700, Joe wrote: On May 31, 9:14 am, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:31:47 -0700, Norm Howe wrote: All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. Norm Howe Automotive expert Norm Howe drives a 2002 P-O-N-T-I-A-C! Bwhahahahahahaha! Your point? Helio Castroneves drives a 1996 Chevy Caprice. Max- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Sam Walton drove a 72 ford truck until he died. Some people do not have the need to brag or try to impress others with fancy trinkets. Joe Really? Did you ever visit Sam Walton's house? It was designed by Fay Jones, an apprentice of Frank Lloyd Wright, and was custom built from the best material available. No expense spared. Did it ever occur to you that his wife commissioned the house, not him. He was a blue jeans and t-shirt sort, and didn't care much for the trappings of obvious wealth. His wife, OTOH . . . Max Oh, he didn't mind a few extravagances... Don't believe everything his PR department published. He didn't always drive that truck, either. CWM Don't believe everything vegetarians tell you either. Especially ones that hold family reunions at nudist camps! How does a vegetarian get so overweight anyway? The overhanging gut was bad enough, but couldn't someone throw a towel over the big fat dimpled ass? Juan Fangio You think Sam Walton was a vegetarian? I can assure you that he was not. I don't know about him being a nudist. Somehow, I doubt it. CWM Sam Walton and Ray Kroc were closet vegetarians. They are credited with starting the modern vegetarian movement. My father said that Sam Walton introduced him to barbecued catfish. Vegetarian? I don't think so! CWM You lie a lot. Maybe your Dad also lied a lot. Paul ??? My father was a friend of Fay Jones, and somewhere I have photos of him, Fay and Sam Walton sitting on Sam Walton's porch. CWM Which one of you? And which father? Binary Bill's past has bit him on his lying ass. Paul |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:34:59 -0400, "Paul Lindenburgh" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:18:09 -0400, "PaulLindenburgh" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:39:22 -0700, Juan Fangio wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:24:26 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:14:02 -0700, Juan Fangio wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:28:07 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:50:30 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On 31 May 2007 08:48:59 -0700, Joe wrote: On May 31, 9:14 am, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:31:47 -0700, Norm Howe wrote: All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. Norm Howe Automotive expert Norm Howe drives a 2002 P-O-N-T-I-A-C! Bwhahahahahahaha! Your point? Helio Castroneves drives a 1996 Chevy Caprice. Max- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Sam Walton drove a 72 ford truck until he died. Some people do not have the need to brag or try to impress others with fancy trinkets. Joe Really? Did you ever visit Sam Walton's house? It was designed by Fay Jones, an apprentice of Frank Lloyd Wright, and was custom built from the best material available. No expense spared. Did it ever occur to you that his wife commissioned the house, not him. He was a blue jeans and t-shirt sort, and didn't care much for the trappings of obvious wealth. His wife, OTOH . . . Max Oh, he didn't mind a few extravagances... Don't believe everything his PR department published. He didn't always drive that truck, either. CWM Don't believe everything vegetarians tell you either. Especially ones that hold family reunions at nudist camps! How does a vegetarian get so overweight anyway? The overhanging gut was bad enough, but couldn't someone throw a towel over the big fat dimpled ass? Juan Fangio You think Sam Walton was a vegetarian? I can assure you that he was not. I don't know about him being a nudist. Somehow, I doubt it. CWM Sam Walton and Ray Kroc were closet vegetarians. They are credited with starting the modern vegetarian movement. My father said that Sam Walton introduced him to barbecued catfish. Vegetarian? I don't think so! CWM You lie a lot. Maybe your Dad also lied a lot. Paul ??? My father was a friend of Fay Jones, and somewhere I have photos of him, Fay and Sam Walton sitting on Sam Walton's porch. CWM Which one of you? And which father? Binary Bill's past has bit him on his lying ass. Paul Think whatever you like, dimwit. CWM Think? If you *are* Charlie Morgan, then I'm Captain Neal Warren. You're still a lying piece of ****. Asshole. Paul |
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:44:50 -0400, "Paul Lindenburgh" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:34:59 -0400, "Paul Lindenburgh" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:18:09 -0400, "PaulLindenburgh" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:39:22 -0700, Juan Fangio wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:24:26 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:14:02 -0700, Juan Fangio wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:28:07 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:50:30 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On 31 May 2007 08:48:59 -0700, Joe wrote: On May 31, 9:14 am, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:31:47 -0700, Norm Howe wrote: All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. Norm Howe Automotive expert Norm Howe drives a 2002 P-O-N-T-I-A-C! Bwhahahahahahaha! Your point? Helio Castroneves drives a 1996 Chevy Caprice. Max- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Sam Walton drove a 72 ford truck until he died. Some people do not have the need to brag or try to impress others with fancy trinkets. Joe Really? Did you ever visit Sam Walton's house? It was designed by Fay Jones, an apprentice of Frank Lloyd Wright, and was custom built from the best material available. No expense spared. Did it ever occur to you that his wife commissioned the house, not him. He was a blue jeans and t-shirt sort, and didn't care much for the trappings of obvious wealth. His wife, OTOH . . . Max Oh, he didn't mind a few extravagances... Don't believe everything his PR department published. He didn't always drive that truck, either. CWM Don't believe everything vegetarians tell you either. Especially ones that hold family reunions at nudist camps! How does a vegetarian get so overweight anyway? The overhanging gut was bad enough, but couldn't someone throw a towel over the big fat dimpled ass? Juan Fangio You think Sam Walton was a vegetarian? I can assure you that he was not. I don't know about him being a nudist. Somehow, I doubt it. CWM Sam Walton and Ray Kroc were closet vegetarians. They are credited with starting the modern vegetarian movement. My father said that Sam Walton introduced him to barbecued catfish. Vegetarian? I don't think so! CWM You lie a lot. Maybe your Dad also lied a lot. Paul ??? My father was a friend of Fay Jones, and somewhere I have photos of him, Fay and Sam Walton sitting on Sam Walton's porch. CWM Which one of you? And which father? Binary Bill's past has bit him on his lying ass. Paul Think whatever you like, dimwit. CWM Think? If you *are* Charlie Morgan, then I'm Captain Neal Warren. You're still a lying piece of ****. Asshole . Do you love my new sig. It's so... ME! -- CWM Asshole of the millennia. Habitual ****tard Ganz wannabee Yep, it's you Paul |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:57:46 -0400, "Paul Lindenburgh" wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:44:50 -0400, "Paul Lindenburgh" wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:34:59 -0400, "Paul Lindenburgh" wrote: On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:18:09 -0400, "PaulLindenburgh" wrote: You can't even keep your email consistent, and you want to call others liars? Stick yourself with a fork - You're done. CWM So you think that I'm stupid enough to use my real e-mail address? Remember, there are wierdos and stalkers out there. Someone named Binary Bill comes to mind. He has been known to use the name of a well known and respected boat builder, you know. Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Loser punk liar asshole CWM Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahaha Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahahahaha Paul |
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On Jun 2, 6:30 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 19:18:09 -0400, "PaulLindenburgh" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:39:22 -0700, Juan Fangio wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 09:24:26 -0400, Charlie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 06:14:02 -0700, Juan Fangio wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 10:28:07 GMT, Charlie Morgan wrote: On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:50:30 GMT, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message .. . On 31 May 2007 08:48:59 -0700, Joe wrote: On May 31, 9:14 am, "Maxprop" wrote: "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 31 May 2007 06:31:47 -0700, Norm Howe wrote: All of your budget level mods make the car go faster in a straight line. You are not a regular or ever have been on a race track. You are a reckless fool turning the public roads into your personal drag strip. You never had high speed driving instruction. You are too chicken and inexperienced to go out on a track and go head to head with others. You race in traffic, others have to find out the hard way you are racing. You have no experience in high speed driving. Your experience is simply in speeding, that is breaking the law. You put others at risk with your reckless driving. You can't handle a faster car. You have no skill. You want straight line fast. Did I mention you are reckless, unsafe and a law breaker? You have never driven a car at high speed on a twisty road for more than 90 seconds. Try going for an hour continuous on a track. Sounds like your sailing ethic is splashing into your driving. Unsafe. Reckless. Unlawful. No commitment. Unskilled. No mettle. Driveway/dock queen. All show with nothing to show. It's all about you. Get real tires. Replace that undersized turbo. Get some struts. Get a pair of balls. Most importantly: Get your jollies on a race track. Be considerate of those who use the public roads and obey the law. We all can use one less asshole on the road. Norm Howe Automotive expert Norm Howe drives a 2002 P-O-N-T-I-A-C! Bwhahahahahahaha! Your point? Helio Castroneves drives a 1996 Chevy Caprice. Max- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And Sam Walton drove a 72 ford truck until he died. Some people do not have the need to brag or try to impress others with fancy trinkets. Joe Really? Did you ever visit Sam Walton's house? It was designed by Fay Jones, an apprentice of Frank Lloyd Wright, and was custom built from the best material available. No expense spared. Did it ever occur to you that his wife commissioned the house, not him. He was a blue jeans and t-shirt sort, and didn't care much for the trappings of obvious wealth. His wife, OTOH . . . Max Oh, he didn't mind a few extravagances... Don't believe everything his PR department published. He didn't always drive that truck, either. CWM Don't believe everything vegetarians tell you either. Especially ones that hold family reunions at nudist camps! How does a vegetarian get so overweight anyway? The overhanging gut was bad enough, but couldn't someone throw a towel over the big fat dimpled ass? Juan Fangio You think Sam Walton was a vegetarian? I can assure you that he was not. I don't know about him being a nudist. Somehow, I doubt it. CWM Sam Walton and Ray Kroc were closet vegetarians. They are credited with starting the modern vegetarian movement. My father said that Sam Walton introduced him to barbecued catfish. Vegetarian? I don't think so! CWM You lie a lot. Maybe your Dad also lied a lot. Paul ??? My father was a friend of Fay Jones, and somewhere I have photos of him, Fay and Sam Walton sitting on Sam Walton's porch. CWM- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Sure you do BB.... Sure..we all believe you. Joe |
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