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Bill May 10th 07 08:08 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
So I realize I have posted more than a response or two to comments
that are non-sailing related but there has not been much sailing stuff
posted to discuss so i thought I would throw in some stuff.

As some of you may know I am new to sailing. I am also building an
outrigger sailing canoe. So far everything has been a lot of fun but
finding people to go sailing with to help teach me has been a little
difficult, until this week. I have been learning from a relative of
mine who lives or rather lived on a sailboat. The problem is that he
resides with his wife and two teenage sons, none of which are
particularly fond of sailing. So the dingy has been my classroom.
I'm not complaining, there is a lot to be learned from dinghy sailing
so I have been doing a lot of that. Now for the sad news. my
relative sold his 44' sailboat and boat a motor trawler for the
space. No future hopes of sailing the big boat for me. But, I
recently found out that a guy I work with is in the sailing club at UC
Irvine and has several friends/relatives with boats. He is a very
experienced sailor and, of course, is always looking for an excuse to
get out on the water. After speaking a while he really wants to go
out on the weekends and use some of the boats he has access to and
teach me a thing or two about sailing. I also found out that my Dad's
colleuge at work with a racing/cruiser sailboat just moved it two
slips away from my relative that I have been sailing with. I have
been trying to get to talk to him about going out a few times because
it would seem that he is looking for a crew member so that he can push
the speed of his boat a bit but doesn't want to pay or really compete,
just have fun. So I am going out there this weekend to try and get
more people lined up for sailing. If any of you are in the Orange
county or L.A. County area and want someone to teach about sailing in
return for a free crew member or maybe a case of beer now and then let
me know.

That's my sailing news and I am sure you will all start to rip me
apart for something but at least it is related and we can get back to
talking about sailing.

Bill


Scotty May 10th 07 08:33 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
That's nice, Bill. Speaking of sailing, last weekend we
watched 'The Guardian' and 'Master & Commander'. Then later
I read 'The Old Man & The Sea'. A very nautical w/e.

SBV


"Bill" wrote in message
ups.com...
So I realize I have posted more than a response or two to

comments
that are non-sailing related but there has not been much

sailing stuff
posted to discuss so i thought I would throw in some

stuff.

As some of you may know I am new to sailing. I am also

building an
outrigger sailing canoe. So far everything has been a lot

of fun but
finding people to go sailing with to help teach me has

been a little
difficult, until this week. I have been learning from a

relative of
mine who lives or rather lived on a sailboat. The problem

is that he
resides with his wife and two teenage sons, none of which

are
particularly fond of sailing. So the dingy has been my

classroom.
I'm not complaining, there is a lot to be learned from

dinghy sailing
so I have been doing a lot of that. Now for the sad news.

my
relative sold his 44' sailboat and boat a motor trawler

for the
space. No future hopes of sailing the big boat for me.

But, I
recently found out that a guy I work with is in the

sailing club at UC
Irvine and has several friends/relatives with boats. He

is a very
experienced sailor and, of course, is always looking for

an excuse to
get out on the water. After speaking a while he really

wants to go
out on the weekends and use some of the boats he has

access to and
teach me a thing or two about sailing. I also found out

that my Dad's
colleuge at work with a racing/cruiser sailboat just moved

it two
slips away from my relative that I have been sailing with.

I have
been trying to get to talk to him about going out a few

times because
it would seem that he is looking for a crew member so that

he can push
the speed of his boat a bit but doesn't want to pay or

really compete,
just have fun. So I am going out there this weekend to

try and get
more people lined up for sailing. If any of you are in

the Orange
county or L.A. County area and want someone to teach about

sailing in
return for a free crew member or maybe a case of beer now

and then let
me know.

That's my sailing news and I am sure you will all start to

rip me
apart for something but at least it is related and we can

get back to
talking about sailing.

Bill




Bill May 10th 07 08:43 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
On May 10, 12:33 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
That's nice, Bill. Speaking of sailing, last weekend we
watched 'The Guardian' and 'Master & Commander'. Then later
I read 'The Old Man & The Sea'. A very nautical w/e.


I was a little dissapointed by the gaurdian. I did like M&C. I
recently read the Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner. I thought it was a
great poem but very long. I also put a picture of the 'Lynx' up in my
office along with "Sea-Fever" the poem. It keeps me sane in an office
building that looks like a mental institution. This weekend, for
mothers day, we are going out on my brothers new boat. It is a Rinker
250. He said he didn't want anything to do with a sail so he bought a
power boat that's all party ready. I feel like a bit of a sell out
because it is really not my kind of boat and it guzzles gas. I'm not
the party boat kind of guy but it is kind of nice. It should be for
what he paid. I just can't wait to get my boat finished and on the
water. I'm gonna sail the hell out of it and love every second of
cold, wet, and windy movement.

Bill


Scotty May 10th 07 09:12 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 

"Bill" wrote in message
news:1178826217.414256

I was a little dissapointed by the gaurdian.


I was expecting the worst. It wasn't that bad, though my
wife kept comparing it to Officer & a Gentleman.

SV



Joe May 10th 07 09:43 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
On May 10, 3:12 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message

news:1178826217.414256



I was a little dissapointed by the gaurdian.


I was expecting the worst. It wasn't that bad, though my
wife kept comparing it to Officer & a Gentleman.

SV


Lisa was right, I kept thinking the same thing..a remake in another
branch.. They did have some real rescue footage that was interesting.

joe


katy May 10th 07 10:13 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
Scotty wrote:
That's nice, Bill. Speaking of sailing, last weekend we
watched 'The Guardian' and 'Master & Commander'. Then later
I read 'The Old Man & The Sea'. A very nautical w/e.

SBV


"Bill" wrote in message
ups.com...

So I realize I have posted more than a response or two to


comments

that are non-sailing related but there has not been much


sailing stuff

posted to discuss so i thought I would throw in some


stuff.

As some of you may know I am new to sailing. I am also


building an

outrigger sailing canoe. So far everything has been a lot


of fun but

finding people to go sailing with to help teach me has


been a little

difficult, until this week. I have been learning from a


relative of

mine who lives or rather lived on a sailboat. The problem


is that he

resides with his wife and two teenage sons, none of which


are

particularly fond of sailing. So the dingy has been my


classroom.

I'm not complaining, there is a lot to be learned from


dinghy sailing

so I have been doing a lot of that. Now for the sad news.


my

relative sold his 44' sailboat and boat a motor trawler


for the

space. No future hopes of sailing the big boat for me.


But, I

recently found out that a guy I work with is in the


sailing club at UC

Irvine and has several friends/relatives with boats. He


is a very

experienced sailor and, of course, is always looking for


an excuse to

get out on the water. After speaking a while he really


wants to go

out on the weekends and use some of the boats he has


access to and

teach me a thing or two about sailing. I also found out


that my Dad's

colleuge at work with a racing/cruiser sailboat just moved


it two

slips away from my relative that I have been sailing with.


I have

been trying to get to talk to him about going out a few


times because

it would seem that he is looking for a crew member so that


he can push

the speed of his boat a bit but doesn't want to pay or


really compete,

just have fun. So I am going out there this weekend to


try and get

more people lined up for sailing. If any of you are in


the Orange

county or L.A. County area and want someone to teach about


sailing in

return for a free crew member or maybe a case of beer now


and then let

me know.

That's my sailing news and I am sure you will all start to


rip me

apart for something but at least it is related and we can


get back to

talking about sailing.

Bill




What? You didn't want to go out in that? They've still got the CG
searching for the sailboat with 4 crew that launched an EPIRB...the
family thinks they just tan far out but why then would they have
launched the EPIRB? They still have small craft advisories up...regular
4-5 footers, which isn't too worrisome but they say there's been a lot
of roguey type that all of a sudden crop up twice as big in the mddile
of them...such a weird storm pattern...a storm that turns sub-tropical,
moves south, and then turns into a depression...we were out to Fort
Montoe and it was blowing so hard you could abrely walk against the wind
on the beach...there were no boats out at Old Port Comfort Marina
atall...today though, there's a bunch sailing on the James right in
front of the bridge....

katy May 10th 07 10:14 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
Scotty wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message
news:1178826217.414256

I was a little dissapointed by the gaurdian.



I was expecting the worst. It wasn't that bad, though my
wife kept comparing it to Officer & a Gentleman.

SV


that was a sappy movie....

Matt Colie May 11th 07 12:45 AM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
Bill,
Frette Thee Not.
There are always people looking for crew. It sounds a lot like you may
have found two. Go find the sailors (they won't come looking for you).
Join the club at UC Irvine. Pack a seabag and stand around on the
docks and meet people. In Many cases they will be glad to have railmeat
that actually knows that the pointy end goes first (more is just that
much better).

If you can started at racing with anybody - do it. When you get to be
known in the community (if you are know as dependable crew), you will
find it easier to get on other boats.

Who ever you are sailing with, remember that maintaining a boat is both
expensive and labor intensive and any help you can provide will be
appreciated.

Never forget the skipper that brings you in. Do not get a reputation as
one that likes to jump from crew to crew. You can change to another
crew, just be sure the skipper you leave isn't counting on you to show
up on race day. Above all else, be dependable crew.

I gave up this ng when the actual sailing content got near zero. There
are other sailing groups. This one has never adopted the OT in subject
unrelated to the charter topic. I stopped by and read you note. I do
drop by on the rare occasion to see if anything has changed.

Fair Wind and Smooth Sea

Matt Colie
Lifelong Waterman, Licensed Marine and Perpetual Sailor

Bill wrote:
So I realize I have posted more than a response or two to comments
that are non-sailing related but there has not been much sailing stuff
posted to discuss so i thought I would throw in some stuff.

As some of you may know I am new to sailing. I am also building an
outrigger sailing canoe. So far everything has been a lot of fun but
finding people to go sailing with to help teach me has been a little
difficult, until this week. I have been learning from a relative of
mine who lives or rather lived on a sailboat. The problem is that he
resides with his wife and two teenage sons, none of which are
particularly fond of sailing. So the dingy has been my classroom.
I'm not complaining, there is a lot to be learned from dinghy sailing
so I have been doing a lot of that. Now for the sad news. my
relative sold his 44' sailboat and boat a motor trawler for the
space. No future hopes of sailing the big boat for me. But, I
recently found out that a guy I work with is in the sailing club at UC
Irvine and has several friends/relatives with boats. He is a very
experienced sailor and, of course, is always looking for an excuse to
get out on the water. After speaking a while he really wants to go
out on the weekends and use some of the boats he has access to and
teach me a thing or two about sailing. I also found out that my Dad's
colleuge at work with a racing/cruiser sailboat just moved it two
slips away from my relative that I have been sailing with. I have
been trying to get to talk to him about going out a few times because
it would seem that he is looking for a crew member so that he can push
the speed of his boat a bit but doesn't want to pay or really compete,
just have fun. So I am going out there this weekend to try and get
more people lined up for sailing. If any of you are in the Orange
county or L.A. County area and want someone to teach about sailing in
return for a free crew member or maybe a case of beer now and then let
me know.

That's my sailing news and I am sure you will all start to rip me
apart for something but at least it is related and we can get back to
talking about sailing.

Bill


Bill May 11th 07 01:40 AM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
Pointy end forward......Got it.

I plan to sail whenever I can with whoever wants me onboard. The best
way to learn is to do it. When my boat is finished I hope to be
capable enough to sail it myself but still sail with others to
improve. That's maybe a year from now. Maybe less.

Bill


Scotty May 11th 07 02:27 AM

Hey How about something sailing related
 

"Joe" wrote in
SV


Lisa was right, I kept thinking the same thing..a remake

in another
branch..


She's always right.

;)



Scotty May 11th 07 02:33 AM

Hey How about something sailing related
 

"Bill" wrote in message
ups.com...
Pointy end forward......Got it.



What if it's a Nordica 30?




Bill May 11th 07 05:47 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
On May 10, 6:33 pm, "Scotty" wrote:
"Bill" wrote in message

ups.com...

Pointy end forward......Got it.


What if it's a Nordica 30?


Still pointyer (is that a word) in the front
http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-30.html

Can we all at least agree that the flat and wet side goes down and the
cloth stuff goes up out of the water?


Joe May 11th 07 05:54 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
On May 11, 11:47 am, Bill wrote:
On May 10, 6:33 pm, "Scotty" wrote:

"Bill" wrote in message


oups.com...


Pointy end forward......Got it.


What if it's a Nordica 30?


Still pointyer (is that a word) in the fronthttp://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-30.html

Can we all at least agree that the flat and wet side goes down and the
cloth stuff goes up out of the water?


Not if it's a mule

http://www.museum.state.il.us/RiverW...ameID=mule_325

Joe
"The beating will continue until the moral improves"


Ronald Hugh Roberts May 11th 07 06:02 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
In article .com,
Joe wrote:
On May 11, 11:47 am, Bill wrote:

[snip]
Joe
"The beating will continue until the moral improves"


The floggings will continue until morale improves.

ron
--
Ron Roberts or Phone (512) 219-0043
Usenet invented "no controlling legal authority."



Bill May 11th 07 06:09 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
Can we all at least agree that the flat and wet side goes down and the
cloth stuff goes up out of the water?


Not if it's a mule

http://www.museum.state.il.us/RiverW...ves/images/ind...


Are you trying to confuse me? To me a mule is a pack animal that is
stubborn as hell. I don't know why anyone would use a sail
underwater. Seems to be a bit more drag than one would like.


Joe May 11th 07 06:38 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
On May 11, 12:02 pm, (Ronald Hugh Roberts)
wrote:
In article .com,

Joe wrote:
On May 11, 11:47 am, Bill wrote:

[snip]
Joe
"The beating will continue until the moral improves"


The floggings will continue until morale improves.

ron
--
Ron Roberts or Phone (512) 219-0043
Usenet invented "no controlling legal authority."


Oh ....the little lady just bought me a T-shirt with sculls and
crossbones on it, but it says "the beatings will continue until morale
improves"

Who said it first?

Joe


Joe May 11th 07 06:40 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
On May 11, 12:09 pm, Bill wrote:
Can we all at least agree that the flat and wet side goes down and the
cloth stuff goes up out of the water?


Not if it's a mule


http://www.museum.state.il.us/RiverW...ves/images/ind...


Are you trying to confuse me? To me a mule is a pack animal that is
stubborn as hell. I don't know why anyone would use a sail
underwater. Seems to be a bit more drag than one would like.


Not if you like or need, and can harness the drag.

Joe



katy May 11th 07 06:51 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
Bill wrote:
On May 10, 6:33 pm, "Scotty" wrote:

"Bill" wrote in message

roups.com...


Pointy end forward......Got it.


What if it's a Nordica 30?



Still pointyer (is that a word) in the front
http://www.nordicaboats.com/html/nordica-30.html

Can we all at least agree that the flat and wet side goes down and the
cloth stuff goes up out of the water?


Flat? Only Bolger boats are flat on the bottom...mine is nicely rounded
and curved..nothing flat about her...

katy May 11th 07 06:53 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
Joe wrote:
On May 11, 12:02 pm, (Ronald Hugh Roberts)
wrote:

In article .com,

Joe wrote:

On May 11, 11:47 am, Bill wrote:


[snip]

Joe
"The beating will continue until the moral improves"


The floggings will continue until morale improves.

ron
--
Ron Roberts or Phone (512) 219-0043
Usenet invented "no controlling legal authority."



Oh ....the little lady just bought me a T-shirt with sculls and
crossbones on it, but it says "the beatings will continue until morale
improves"

Who said it first?

Joe


Diana Dominatrix....

Scotty May 11th 07 08:03 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 

"katy" wrote in message
...


Flat? Only Bolger boats have flat bottoms...mine is

nicely rounded
and curved..nothing flat about her...


Oh, I can only imagine.

;)



Ronald Hugh Roberts May 14th 07 10:24 PM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
In article m,
Joe wrote:
On May 11, 12:02 pm, (Ronald Hugh Roberts)
wrote:
In article .com,

Joe wrote:
[snip]

The floggings will continue until morale improves.

Ron Roberts or Phone (512) 219-0043


Oh ....the little lady just bought me a T-shirt with sculls and
crossbones on it, but it says "the beatings will continue until morale
improves"

Who said it first?


Don't know. I first heard it from Donna Triplett in 1986. Texas Instruments
was looking for something to demonstrate their new color printer at COMDEX,
and Donna suggested it. They printed several thousand ... and ran out.

Ron Roberts or Phone (512) 219-0043


Thanks for editing my signature, but it's really not necessary.

BTW: Do you know Ben Miller in Kemah? Is he still alive?

ron
--
Ron Roberts or Phone (512) 219-0043
Usenet invented "no controlling legal authority."

Bart May 15th 07 12:32 AM

Hey How about something sailing related
 
On May 10, 3:08 pm, Bill wrote:
So I realize I have posted more than a response or two to comments
that are non-sailing related but there has not been much sailing stuff
posted to discuss so i thought I would throw in some stuff.

As some of you may know I am new to sailing. I am also building an
outrigger sailing canoe.


I sailed one of these once. No offense intended, but it was one of
the dumbest ideas I've seen. I'd rather sail a Mac-26, and everyone
knows how much I hate those boats. Do yourself a favor and get
a real sailboat.

more people lined up for sailing. If any of you are in the Orange
county or L.A. County area and want someone to teach about sailing in
return for a free crew member or maybe a case of beer now and then let
me know.


Try this place to learn to sail.
http://www.occsailing.com/

That's my sailing news and I am sure you will all start to rip me
apart for something but at least it is related and we can get back to
talking about sailing.

Bill


Glad to have you part of the group Bill. Any sailing topic posting
is welcome.

Bart




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