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Another POS bites the dust!


The surge is working!
********************************
American forces have indeed killed a high-ranking member of the
terrorist group Al Qaeda in Iraq, but not the leader of the group,
American military officials said today.

The man killed in the raid was Muharib Abdul Latif al-Jubouri,
described as a senior minister of information for Al Qaeda in Iraq who
was involved in the kidnappings of Jill Carroll and Tom Fox as well as
two Germans, according to Maj. Gen. William Caldwell, spokesman for
the American military in Iraq.

Mr. Jubouri was involved in the movement of foreign fighters and money
into Iraq from Syria, said General Caldwell, who described Mr.
Jubouri's death as "significant." The general also said Mr. Jubouri
was involved in hiding and moving the kidnapped Christian Science
Monitor reporter Jill Carroll; she was held for two months before
being released.

Detainees told American officials that Mr. Jubouri had personal
custody of Mr. Fox, an American, and was the last one seen holding him
before Mr. Fox was killed, General Caldwell said. Mr. Fox, one of four
men from the Chicago-based peace group Christian Peacemaker Teams
working in Iraq, was found shot to death in Baghdad on March 10, 2006.

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"Carl Nisarel" wrote in message
05.47...
Joe stuttered:

American forces have indeed killed a high-ranking member of
the terrorist group Al Qaeda in Iraq, but not the leader of
the group, American military officials said today.

Classic disinformation.

Only people like you haven't noticed that a "high-ranking"
terrorist is killed every time Bush needs justification for the
war.


No way. They're making progress. They only have 2 billion more to go.

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We are indeed winning.

It is the Democrats that are telling our troops, "You have failed, you
cannot get the job done".

Our troops voluntarily go into danger and all Democrats can tell them is
that they are a disappointment to Americans.

I am not disappointed with our troops. They are doing an outstanding job and
getting it done with limited resources and manpower.

God Bless America.

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On May 3, 11:33 am, "Bob Crantz" wrote:
We are indeed winning.

It is the Democrats that are telling our troops, "You have failed, you
cannot get the job done".

Our troops voluntarily go into danger and all Democrats can tell them is
that they are a disappointment to Americans.

I am not disappointed with our troops. They are doing an outstanding job and
getting it done with limited resources and manpower.

God Bless America.

Wonder why they a so limited in resources...Do you think it might
have something to do with the democratic congress trying to buy votes
with 21 billion in pork they attached to the funding bill of our
troops in harms way?

Joe

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Our troops voluntarily go into danger and all Democrats can tell them
is
that they are a disappointment to Americans.



Our troops are generally ignorant kids. Most have no free will and no
idea of what's they're really there for. They are children, sacrificed
so Bush and his friends can make more money than can ever be counted.
Of course quite a few troops are now coming out to say they finally
understand this and the effort to save American lives is now also
supported by many republicans.

Bush is NO REPUBLICAN...and he never was.


RB
35s5
NY

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On May 3, 3:01 pm, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Our troops voluntarily go into danger and all Democrats can tell them
is
that they are a disappointment to Americans.

Our troops are generally ignorant kids. Most have no free will and no
idea of what's they're really there for. They are children, sacrificed
so Bush and his friends can make more money than can ever be counted.

RB
35s5
NY

Robbie, I'm quite sure while you were in your 20's you were very
ignorant. However most young men & women do fine in the service and
are fully aware of what to expect.

Again this all plays into why you are 25 years behind the curve on
everything. And have no understanding of the military, or military
service.

IMO due to your lack of service, it impairs your view...so your
comments about military service and sacriafice are invalid, and not
worthy of consideration.

Joe

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message

Our troops are generally ignorant kids.

Spoken as one who has absolutely no experience with soldiers.

Max

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Dave wrote:
On 3 May 2007 13:01:50 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:


Our troops are generally ignorant kids.


And how many of them do you know?

I concur on that...many of the individuals that live in the apartemnt
complex we're in are military...between 25-35 years old...I've spoken to
many, male and female in the past 18 months and none of them struck me
as naive, ignorant or inherently stupid. Most were quite conversant,
very polite, and seemingly competent.

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On May 3, 8:04 pm, Dave wrote:
On Thu, 03 May 2007 20:11:11 -0400, Charlie Morgan said:

Yes. I can't speak to the Army, but I well recall several ET petty officers
I had working for me aboard ship who had IQs in the 140 to 160 range, and
were definitely not "ignorant kids." And that wasn't even the destroyer
Navy.

I think its obvious to anyone with an IQ over 80 that we are talking about NOW,
not 30 years ago.

I'll admit my recent contacts with military types have been limited to the
marine reservist down the hall, who came back from Iraq a few months ago,
and an army general who recently retired and became CEO of a client.

So let me ask you the question I asked BS. How many of those "kids" do you
know?

The area I live in is full of military people. Most have a Masters
from good schools like MIT, Yale, ect.ect.ect Many many have Phd's
and command ships that cost 3.5 billion a year to operate. Thousand's
of them are engineers.

While spoiled brats like BB wasted daddys money barely flunking out
of Harvard, these guys became officers in the military and earned
degrees while they served.

While BB was hurling spitballs at a blackboard, these guys, and gals
were hurling off a carrier's in 300 million dollar aircrafts.

Joe

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On May 3, 9:01 pm, Dave wrote:
On 3 May 2007 18:29:28 -0700, Joe said:

While spoiled brats like BB wasted daddys money barely flunking out
of Harvard, these guys became officers in the military and earned
degrees while they served.

While BB was hurling spitballs at a blackboard, these guys, and gals
were hurling off a carrier's in 300 million dollar aircrafts.

Now why don't you tell us how you really feel? g

We have a Navy commander's boat here in the marina, a Navy blue
Sabre 426. It makes BB's cracked keel little C&C boat look like
trash.

Joe

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Has anyone noticed that the liberal responses in this thread all took a
very dim view of our troops in spite of the fact the average age of the
troops is close to 30 years and at least 1/3 have college degrees.

My point is well proven.

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http://homepage.mac.com/gcatalone/ib...855/index.html

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in



Our troops are generally ignorant kids.

So ignorant they talk like this? "idea of what's they're
really there for''

BWaHahahahahahahahah




Most have no free will and no
idea of what's they're really there for.

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 03 May 2007 18:10:28 -0400, katy
wrote:


Well, yeah, compared to you...

CWM

asshole.

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 03 May 2007 21:47:38 GMT, "Maxprop" said:

Our troops are generally ignorant kids.

Spoken as one who has absolutely no experience with soldiers.

Yes. I can't speak to the Army, but I well recall several ET petty
officers
I had working for me aboard ship who had IQs in the 140 to 160 range, and
were definitely not "ignorant kids." And that wasn't even the destroyer
Navy.

I guess Bubbles agrees with John Kerry's assessment of our troops. My own
personal experience with military people as patients is that they have no
doubt about their mission and why they've chosen to serve. Most are
intelligent, some are college-educated, and quite a few are just regular
folks who've been called up as part of the National Guard activation. Some
are officers, and some are simply enlisted men and women, but all are
polite, respectful, thoughtful, and motivated. I always make it a point to
thank them for serving our country.

Max

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net..
..

Some
are officers, and some are simply enlisted men and women,
but all are
polite, respectful, thoughtful, and motivated.

The complete opposite of Bubbles.

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
We are indeed winning.

It is the Democrats that are telling our troops, "You have failed, you
cannot get the job done".

Our troops voluntarily go into danger and all Democrats can tell them is
that they are a disappointment to Americans.

I am not disappointed with our troops. They are doing an outstanding job
and getting it done with limited resources and manpower.

God Bless America.

I'm not disappointed either, but they're not getting much done. Please show
us where a main-stream Democrat has said they're a disappointment. You
can't. That's just the right-wing nut in you talking.

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 3, 11:33 am, "Bob Crantz" wrote:
We are indeed winning.

It is the Democrats that are telling our troops, "You have failed, you
cannot get the job done".

Our troops voluntarily go into danger and all Democrats can tell them is
that they are a disappointment to Americans.

I am not disappointed with our troops. They are doing an outstanding job
and
getting it done with limited resources and manpower.

God Bless America.

Wonder why they a so limited in resources...Do you think it might
have something to do with the democratic congress trying to buy votes
with 21 billion in pork they attached to the funding bill of our
troops in harms way?

Joe



You wonder why, but you don't have to... Bushco's ill-conceived war. That's
the reason.

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Dave wrote:
On 3 May 2007 13:01:50 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:


Our troops are generally ignorant kids.


And how many of them do you know?

I concur on that...many of the individuals that live in the apartemnt
complex we're in are military...between 25-35 years old...I've spoken to
many, male and female in the past 18 months and none of them struck me as
naive, ignorant or inherently stupid. Most were quite conversant, very
polite, and seemingly competent.


I don't think most of them are ignorant or stupid. Many of them have limited
options, and reasonably thought that joining the military would be a way out
of poverty. They were right and they were wrong. A lot of them are dying for
no good reason.

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 3, 9:01 pm, Dave wrote:
On 3 May 2007 18:29:28 -0700, Joe said:

While spoiled brats like BB wasted daddys money barely flunking out
of Harvard, these guys became officers in the military and earned
degrees while they served.

While BB was hurling spitballs at a blackboard, these guys, and gals
were hurling off a carrier's in 300 million dollar aircrafts.

Now why don't you tell us how you really feel? g

We have a Navy commander's boat here in the marina, a Navy blue
Sabre 426. It makes BB's cracked keel little C&C boat look like
trash.

Joe

If he's got a Sabre, he must be intelligent. g

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
Has anyone noticed that the liberal responses in this thread all took a
very dim view of our troops in spite of the fact the average age of the
troops is close to 30 years and at least 1/3 have college degrees.

My point is well proven.

The point on the top of your head is well-proven.

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On May 3, 11:29 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

oups.com...





On May 3, 9:01 pm, Dave wrote:
On 3 May 2007 18:29:28 -0700, Joe said:

While spoiled brats like BB wasted daddys money barely flunking out
of Harvard, these guys became officers in the military and earned
degrees while they served.

While BB was hurling spitballs at a blackboard, these guys, and gals
were hurling off a carrier's in 300 million dollar aircrafts.

Now why don't you tell us how you really feel? g

We have a Navy commander's boat here in the marina, a Navy blue
Sabre 426. It makes BB's cracked keel little C&C boat look like
trash.

Joe

If he's got a Sabre, he must be intelligent. g

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A much more intelligent choice than a cracked C&C. And IMO they do
not let "idiots" become mission commanders on the shuttle.

Joe

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On May 4, 6:12 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 3 May 2007 20:04:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Thu, 03 May 2007 20:11:11 -0400, Charlie Morgan said:

Yes. I can't speak to the Army, but I well recall several ET petty officers
I had working for me aboard ship who had IQs in the 140 to 160 range, and
were definitely not "ignorant kids." And that wasn't even the destroyer
Navy.

I think its obvious to anyone with an IQ over 80 that we are talking about NOW,
not 30 years ago.

I'll admit my recent contacts with military types have been limited to the
marine reservist down the hall, who came back from Iraq a few months ago,
and an army general who recently retired and became CEO of a client.

That's a pretty tiny sample group.

So let me ask you the question I asked BS. How many of those "kids" do you
know?

I get to talk to at least a few every day. I also get to talk to kids who will
grow up without one of their parents, bereaved spouses and siblings, and parents
who have lost kids.

CWM

Sure you do sock puppet..Your a liar, it's easy to tell.

If not prove it.

And I'm not talking about you going to the airport and spitting on
the troops as they arrive back from a tour in Iraq.

Joe

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On May 3, 11:28 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"katy" wrote in message

...

Dave wrote:
On 3 May 2007 13:01:50 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:

Our troops are generally ignorant kids.

And how many of them do you know?

I concur on that...many of the individuals that live in the apartemnt
complex we're in are military...between 25-35 years old...I've spoken to
many, male and female in the past 18 months and none of them struck me as
naive, ignorant or inherently stupid. Most were quite conversant, very
polite, and seemingly competent.

I don't think most of them are ignorant or stupid. Many of them have limited
options, and reasonably thought that joining the military would be a way out
of poverty. They were right and they were wrong. A lot of them are dying for
no good reason.

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I guess Tilman had no other options huh?

Most enlisted people, and officers can find better paying jobs than
the military. You may think defeating evil is not a good reason to
die, but I assure you that is not the way they feel. Again like Rob &
BB you can not make an educated assestment of military people, because
you have not served. The only thing you know is what Rosie and Moore,
and Ms Pepsi types spoon feeds you.

Joe

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
We are indeed winning.

It is the Democrats that are telling our troops, "You have failed, you
cannot get the job done".

Our troops voluntarily go into danger and all Democrats can tell them is
that they are a disappointment to Americans.

I am not disappointed with our troops. They are doing an outstanding job
and getting it done with limited resources and manpower.

God Bless America.

I'm not disappointed either, but they're not getting much done. Please
show us where a main-stream Democrat has said they're a disappointment.
You can't. That's just the right-wing nut in you talking.

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Two personal attacks directed by you against me in one thread.

John Kerry has said the troops are a disappointment. Here you go:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...th _bush_gop/

"If you don't do well in school, you get stuck in Iraq."

SMACKDOWN!!!!!

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 3, 11:28 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"katy" wrote in message

...

Dave wrote:
On 3 May 2007 13:01:50 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:

Our troops are generally ignorant kids.

And how many of them do you know?

I concur on that...many of the individuals that live in the apartemnt
complex we're in are military...between 25-35 years old...I've spoken
to
many, male and female in the past 18 months and none of them struck me
as
naive, ignorant or inherently stupid. Most were quite conversant, very
polite, and seemingly competent.

I don't think most of them are ignorant or stupid. Many of them have
limited
options, and reasonably thought that joining the military would be a way
out
of poverty. They were right and they were wrong. A lot of them are dying
for
no good reason.

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I guess Tilman had no other options huh?

Look up the definition of the word "most" and get back to us.

Most enlisted people, and officers can find better paying jobs than
the military.

I doubt that it's true for "most" enlisted people, but please feel free to
provide the statistics.

The rest is right-wing ranting, which I've deleted.

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
...
We are indeed winning.

It is the Democrats that are telling our troops, "You have failed, you
cannot get the job done".

Our troops voluntarily go into danger and all Democrats can tell them is
that they are a disappointment to Americans.

I am not disappointed with our troops. They are doing an outstanding job
and getting it done with limited resources and manpower.

God Bless America.

I'm not disappointed either, but they're not getting much done. Please
show us where a main-stream Democrat has said they're a disappointment.
You can't. That's just the right-wing nut in you talking.

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Two personal attacks directed by you against me in one thread.


Huh???? I only see one.

The word disappointment does not appear in the article. Looks like you're
having reading problems.

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 May 2007 12:12:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

Most enlisted people, and officers can find better paying jobs than
the military.

I doubt that it's true for "most" enlisted people, but please feel free to
provide the statistics.

You really think military pay's that high?

Oh, I forgot. You don't believe there are jobs in the economy other than
flipping burgers.


Huh? I'm saying that military pay is not very high, but a lot of the
enlisted have few viable options. Do you dispute this? If so, feel free to
show the stats that can find better jobs, but would rather not.

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On May 4, 2:54 pm, Dave wrote:


As I see it, your claim says more about your attitude than it says of the
abilities of the service men and women.

BINGO! It lost Kerry the election. Everybody saw what a 2 faced liar
pompas ass momma's boy he was. Robbie, Jon, and BB are the same
types.

Joe

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 May 2007 12:34:31 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

Huh? I'm saying that military pay is not very high, but a lot of the
enlisted have few viable options. Do you dispute this? If so, feel free to
show the stats that can find better jobs, but would rather not.

You've got this backwards, Jon. Your the one asserting that those serving
their country have no viable options. That puts the burden of proof on
you.

As I see it, your claim says more about your attitude than it says of the
abilities of the service men and women.


No I don't. Joe asserted that "Most enlisted people, and officers can find
better paying jobs than the military."

I asked him to show us those stats.

I'm asserting that most enlisted (not officers) have a limited ability to
find viable options, and in addition, the pay isn't good.

As I see it, you're attitude is what got us into a war of choice.

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On 4 May 2007 14:54:02 -0500, Dave said:

Your the one asserting that those serving
their country have no viable options.

And "you're" the one too.


ooooohhhhh typo nazi to the rescue!!! g

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On 4 May 2007 13:45:14 -0700, Joe wrote:

On May 4, 2:54 pm, Dave wrote:


As I see it, your claim says more about your attitude than it says of
the
abilities of the service men and women.

BINGO! It lost Kerry the election. Everybody saw what a 2 faced liar
pompas ass momma's boy he was. Robbie, Jon, and BB are the same
types.

Joe

What a complete dope you are, Joe. I don't like Kerry at all. Too far to
the
right, and a stuttering fool like you.

CWM


I don't like Kerry either. In my view he screwed the pooch during the
election.


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On May 4, 4:11 pm, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 4 May 2007 13:45:14 -0700, Joe wrote:

On May 4, 2:54 pm, Dave wrote:

As I see it, your claim says more about your attitude than it says of the
abilities of the service men and women.

BINGO! It lost Kerry the election. Everybody saw what a 2 faced liar
pompas ass momma's boy he was. Robbie, Jon, and BB are the same
types.

Joe

What a complete dope you are, Joe. I don't like Kerry at all. Too far to the
right, and a stuttering fool like you.

CWM

What a total retard you are, BB. I did not say you liked him, I said
you are like him.

Joe

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:45:42 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

As I see it, you're attitude is what got us into a war of choice.

My view that the military has some enlisted people who aren't dummies got
us
into war?

I don't think so.


Not sure what you're ranting about. I never said nor do I believe such
nonsense. Bush isn't a dummy either. He's just an asshole who doesn't care
about anyone besides himself. He's been promoting torture since 1967 at
least. The first mention of him in the press was as the president of his
fraternaty defending the practice of branding new frat pledges with hot coat
hanger. How could anyone be amazed by what he and his cohorts have condoned
in Gitmo and the CIA black sites.

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On Fri, 04 May 2007 10:49:24 -0700, Nathan Branden
wrote:

snippity-snip

Semper Fi,

Nathan

You were never in the Marine Corps, Nathan.
Mark E. Williams

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...


Two personal attacks directed by you against me in one thread.


Huh???? I only see one.

So you finally admit to using personal attacks! a-ha!


The word disappointment does not appear in the article. Looks like you're
having reading problems.

So Kerry is not disappointed that some do poorly in college? Does he think
"winding up in Iraq" is a lofty goal?

Kerry well proves my point. As well as this:


http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/IraqCoverage/story?id=2785532
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-N.M., also responded to the report,
calling the arriving troops "deeply disappointing."



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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On 4 May 2007 13:45:14 -0700, Joe wrote:

On May 4, 2:54 pm, Dave wrote:


As I see it, your claim says more about your attitude than it says of
the
abilities of the service men and women.

BINGO! It lost Kerry the election. Everybody saw what a 2 faced liar
pompas ass momma's boy he was. Robbie, Jon, and BB are the same
types.

Joe

What a complete dope you are, Joe. I don't like Kerry at all. Too far to
the
right, and a stuttering fool like you.

CWM

How about $300 worth of Howard Dean?

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"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 May 2007 13:45:42 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

I'm asserting that most enlisted (not officers) have a limited ability to
find viable options, and in addition, the pay isn't good.

Well, you led me to do a quick search.

http://www.chron.org/tools/viewart.php?artid=1347


Excellent. Don't forget Michelson, a Naval Academy graduate won the Nobel
prize in Physics. James Doolittle had a PhD in aeronautics from MIT.

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
What a retard you are, Joe. My name is Charlie, for starters. There
was a poster
called BB at one time, but he hasn't been here for well over a year.
Just how
slow are you?

Depends upon whether he's sailing or not. He's fast when it comes to
flipping burgers at McDonalds (he got promoted off the French fryer) but
when he's sailing he's very slow because of that heavy steel boat that
can't get out of its own way.

Wilbur Hubbard

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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 4 May 2007 17:41:14 -0600, "Bob Crantz"
wrote:


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
. ..
On 4 May 2007 13:45:14 -0700, Joe wrote:

On May 4, 2:54 pm, Dave wrote:


As I see it, your claim says more about your attitude than it says of
the
abilities of the service men and women.

BINGO! It lost Kerry the election. Everybody saw what a 2 faced liar
pompas ass momma's boy he was. Robbie, Jon, and BB are the same
types.

Joe

What a complete dope you are, Joe. I don't like Kerry at all. Too far to
the
right, and a stuttering fool like you.

CWM

How about $300 worth of Howard Dean?


I gave him more than that. Try again.

CWM

I didn't want to embarrass you too much.

Yeeeeeeee-Haaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BC