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OzOne wrote:
Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.

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OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2007 20:49:32 -0400, katy
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote:

Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.


What percentage of the population has the commitment to even vote?

I see apathy as being the winner here.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

So be it...but it's not because the systems broke..it's that people
won't use the system..they'd rather all just stand and bitch about it
than do anything...

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"katy" wrote in message
...
OzOne wrote:
Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.

In a perfect world, that might be true. Sadly the party lines will be
followed pretty much in the vote to overturn the veto. Politics in
Washington control virtually everything that happens in chambers there.

Max

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"katy" wrote in message
...
OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2007 20:49:32 -0400, katy
scribbled thusly:


OzOne wrote:

Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.


What percentage of the population has the commitment to even vote?

I see apathy as being the winner here.


Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

So be it...but it's not because the systems broke..it's that people won't
use the system..they'd rather all just stand and bitch about it than do
anything...

. . . or they believe their voices aren't heard in Washington. I tend to
be one of those.

Max

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On Tue, 01 May 2007 20:49:32 -0400, katy wrote:


Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...

Uh, it's 2/3 of each house to override a veto.

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Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

OzOne wrote:

On Tue, 01 May 2007 20:49:32 -0400, katy
scribbled thusly:



OzOne wrote:


Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.


What percentage of the population has the commitment to even vote?

I see apathy as being the winner here.


Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

So be it...but it's not because the systems broke..it's that people won't
use the system..they'd rather all just stand and bitch about it than do
anything...


. . . or they believe their voices aren't heard in Washington. I tend to
be one of those.

Max


.....you're only heard if you make a noise....take a page from the
liberal handbook of screaming...works for them, why wouldn't it work the
other way around?

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thunder wrote:
On Tue, 01 May 2007 20:49:32 -0400, katy wrote:



Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...


Uh, it's 2/3 of each house to override a veto.

I meant that....

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In article ,
katy wrote:
OzOne wrote:
Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.

Not quite so simple... But, I know you would prefer to think this way.


--
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In article ,
katy wrote:

What percentage of the population has the commitment to even vote?

I see apathy as being the winner here.
So be it...but it's not because the systems broke..it's that people
won't use the system..they'd rather all just stand and bitch about it
than do anything...

No, this means the system is broken.


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In article ,
katy wrote:

. . . or they believe their voices aren't heard in Washington. I tend to
be one of those.

Max


....you're only heard if you make a noise....take a page from the
liberal handbook of screaming...works for them, why wouldn't it work the
other way around?

Huh? According to you, this doesn't work. Oh wait, the Press is
liberal.


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On May 2, 12:45 pm, (Jonathan Ganz) wrote:
In article ,





katy wrote:
OzOne wrote:
Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.

Not quite so simple... But, I know you would prefer to think this way.

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- Show quoted text -

Thats right, the evil bush halliburton empire will send out storm
troppers to demolish communications to congress. Just as they took out
the twin towers. Better look out your window Jon, there coming to get
you... Booo!

Joe

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In article .com,
Joe wrote:
Not quite so simple... But, I know you would prefer to think this way.

Thats right, the evil bush halliburton empire will send out storm
troppers to demolish communications to congress. Just as they took out
the twin towers. Better look out your window Jon, there coming to get
you... Booo!

Yeah, forget the illegal wire-taps and arresting innocent US civilians
off the streets. Don't even think about it Joe.

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

OzOne wrote:

On Tue, 01 May 2007 20:49:32 -0400, katy
scribbled thusly:



OzOne wrote:


Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must
vote agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really
want that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and
their Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see
this happening it means one thing: the American people don't really
want the bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of
reasons, ennui, aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there,
but the fact remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a
way.


What percentage of the population has the commitment to even vote?

I see apathy as being the winner here.


Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

So be it...but it's not because the systems broke..it's that people won't
use the system..they'd rather all just stand and bitch about it than do
anything...


. . . or they believe their voices aren't heard in Washington. I tend
to be one of those.

Max
....you're only heard if you make a noise....take a page from the liberal
handbook of screaming...works for them, why wouldn't it work the other way
around?

No one is seriously listening to the far left wing. Moderate liberals, like
Pelosi, are getting a lot of press and credence, but the Michael Moores and
Jane Fondas of the country have faded into oblivion. They get very little
mention these days. I believe the Democrats would prefer to distance
themselves from such idiots, but they do commiserate with them when they
need the war chest refunded.

Max

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
katy wrote:
OzOne wrote:
Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.

Not quite so simple...

Amen. Our system is hardly for, by, and of the people.

Max

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On May 2, 12:45 pm, (Jonathan Ganz) wrote:
In article ,





katy wrote:
OzOne wrote:
Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill

Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.

Not quite so simple... But, I know you would prefer to think this way.

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- Show quoted text -

Thats right, the evil bush halliburton empire will send out storm
troppers to demolish communications to congress. Just as they took out
the twin towers. Better look out your window Jon, there coming to get
you... Booo!

Joe

You forgot Cheney.

Max

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Maxprop wrote:
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...

In article ,
katy wrote:

OzOne wrote:

Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.

Not quite so simple...


Amen. Our system is hardly for, by, and of the people.

Max


Only becasue the people are too lame to get up and do anything about
it...except bitch and moan...

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Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


OzOne wrote:


On Tue, 01 May 2007 20:49:32 -0400, katy
scribbled thusly:




OzOne wrote:



Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must
vote agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really
want that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and
their Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see
this happening it means one thing: the American people don't really
want the bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of
reasons, ennui, aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there,
but the fact remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a
way.


What percentage of the population has the commitment to even vote?

I see apathy as being the winner here.


Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

So be it...but it's not because the systems broke..it's that people won't
use the system..they'd rather all just stand and bitch about it than do
anything...


. . . or they believe their voices aren't heard in Washington. I tend
to be one of those.

Max

....you're only heard if you make a noise....take a page from the liberal
handbook of screaming...works for them, why wouldn't it work the other way
around?


No one is seriously listening to the far left wing. Moderate liberals, like
Pelosi, are getting a lot of press and credence, but the Michael Moores and
Jane Fondas of the country have faded into oblivion. They get very little
mention these days. I believe the Democrats would prefer to distance
themselves from such idiots, but they do commiserate with them when they
need the war chest refunded.

Max



Make sure you buy TIME magazine tomorrow....

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In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
No one is seriously listening to the far left wing. Moderate liberals, like
Pelosi, are getting a lot of press and credence, but the Michael Moores and
Jane Fondas of the country have faded into oblivion. They get very little
mention these days. I believe the Democrats would prefer to distance
themselves from such idiots, but they do commiserate with them when they
need the war chest refunded.

The liberals always distance themselves from idiots. g

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...

In article ,
katy wrote:

OzOne wrote:

Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.

Not quite so simple...


Amen. Our system is hardly for, by, and of the people.

Max
Only becasue the people are too lame to get up and do anything about
it...except bitch and moan...

Have you forgotten the Vietnam period? Never in recent history have the
citizens of the country been more activist than during that war. And the
government simply plodded along with their lobbyist money and special
interest groups controlling everything. The people might as well have been
shouting into a gale.

Max

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...


OzOne wrote:


On Tue, 01 May 2007 20:49:32 -0400, katy
scribbled thusly:




OzOne wrote:



Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.
I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what
the American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress
must vote agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people
really want that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women
and their Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't
see this happening it means one thing: the American people don't
really want the bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number
of reasons, ennui, aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included
there, but the fact remains, IF they really want that bill to pass,
there is a way.


What percentage of the population has the commitment to even vote?

I see apathy as being the winner here.


Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

So be it...but it's not because the systems broke..it's that people
won't use the system..they'd rather all just stand and bitch about it
than do anything...


. . . or they believe their voices aren't heard in Washington. I tend
to be one of those.

Max

....you're only heard if you make a noise....take a page from the liberal
handbook of screaming...works for them, why wouldn't it work the other
way around?


No one is seriously listening to the far left wing. Moderate liberals,
like Pelosi, are getting a lot of press and credence, but the Michael
Moores and Jane Fondas of the country have faded into oblivion. They get
very little mention these days. I believe the Democrats would prefer to
distance themselves from such idiots, but they do commiserate with them
when they need the war chest refunded.

Max



Make sure you buy TIME magazine tomorrow....

I never read that rag, at least not since the editorials all began to
resemble what I was hearing belching from the mouths of the left wing
weirdoes.

Max

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
No one is seriously listening to the far left wing. Moderate liberals,
like
Pelosi, are getting a lot of press and credence, but the Michael Moores
and
Jane Fondas of the country have faded into oblivion. They get very little
mention these days. I believe the Democrats would prefer to distance
themselves from such idiots, but they do commiserate with them when they
need the war chest refunded.

The liberals always distance themselves from idiots. g

I know what you meant by that, but assuming for a moment that you were
reasonable enough to recommend they distance themselves from the far left,
the conservatives would be equally well-advised to distance themselves from
the idiots on the far right. Extremes are never productive, and in recent
years have cleaved the country into two hateful factions with no sign of
reconciliation.

Max

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Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...


In article ,
katy wrote:


OzOne wrote:


Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons, ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.

Not quite so simple...


Amen. Our system is hardly for, by, and of the people.

Max

Only becasue the people are too lame to get up and do anything about
it...except bitch and moan...


Have you forgotten the Vietnam period? Never in recent history have the
citizens of the country been more activist than during that war. And the
government simply plodded along with their lobbyist money and special
interest groups controlling everything. The people might as well have been
shouting into a gale.

Max


That's no reason to give up...perserverance ....dedication to the
cause...defeatism never got anyone anywhere...

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...


In article ,
katy wrote:


OzOne wrote:


Bush immediately vetoes Iraq pullout Bill


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

Under our Constitution we have provisions for this IF that is what the
American people really want. 3/4's of the entirety of COngress must
vote
agaisnt the veto to pass the bill...IF the American people really want
that bill passed, they will write their COngressmen/women and their
Senators and tell them to vote for the Bill...IF you don't see this
happening it means one thing: the American people don't really want
the
bill passed. Of course, that could be for any number of reasons,
ennui,
aparthy, and just plain ignorance being included there, but the fact
remains, IF they really want that bill to pass, there is a way.

Not quite so simple...


Amen. Our system is hardly for, by, and of the people.

Max

Only becasue the people are too lame to get up and do anything about
it...except bitch and moan...


Have you forgotten the Vietnam period? Never in recent history have the
citizens of the country been more activist than during that war. And the
government simply plodded along with their lobbyist money and special
interest groups controlling everything. The people might as well have
been shouting into a gale.

Max
That's no reason to give up...perserverance ....dedication to the
cause...defeatism never got anyone anywhere...

Sadly, in this case neither has perseverance or activism.

Max