In article , OzOne wrote:

Before proper gun control is instituted.....or are you really that
afraid of everything?

GOD FORBID a few people can't own a machine gun.
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Dave wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 09:28:28 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:


GOD FORBID a few people can't own a machine gun.


You really think you can go down to your local gun store and buy a machine
gun?

I don't think so.

Rabid liberalism...of course, if the media says they can, they can...we
are a nation of sheep...or lemmings...take your pick...one crazy person,
not even an American, ahs the ability to spark up the liberal mindset
even though every indication said he should have been locked away
somewhere...He knew how to use those weapons which indicates
experience...so how come his parents didn't know what he was up to?
What's their culpability in all this? Why did they send a sick kid off
to college rather than seek professional help for him? We always look
for blame in the wrong places in this country. Blame the kid and the
environment which bred and raised him...

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Dave wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 09:28:28 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:

GOD FORBID a few people can't own a machine gun.

You really think you can go down to your local gun store and buy a machine
gun?

I don't think so.

I know you don't think so, but you can buy an assault rifle and a
semi-automatic handgun, not to mention cheap guns at gun shows with
zero wait.


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katy wrote:
Dave wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 09:28:28 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:


GOD FORBID a few people can't own a machine gun.


You really think you can go down to your local gun store and buy a machine
gun?

I don't think so.

Rabid liberalism...of course, if the media says they can, they can...we
are a nation of sheep...or lemmings...take your pick...one crazy person,
not even an American, ahs the ability to spark up the liberal mindset
even though every indication said he should have been locked away
somewhere...He knew how to use those weapons which indicates
experience...so how come his parents didn't know what he was up to?
What's their culpability in all this? Why did they send a sick kid off
to college rather than seek professional help for him? We always look
for blame in the wrong places in this country. Blame the kid and the
environment which bred and raised him...

Firstly, I never said "local gun store." That's Dave's illiteration
not mine. Most Americans want gun control, but of course the NRA won't
allow it to happen. Besides, we wouldn't want to restrict Cheney from
shooting lawyers now would we.


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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
Dave wrote:

On 17 Apr 2007 09:28:28 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:


GOD FORBID a few people can't own a machine gun.

You really think you can go down to your local gun store and buy a machine
gun?

I don't think so.


I know you don't think so, but you can buy an assault rifle and a
semi-automatic handgun, not to mention cheap guns at gun shows with
zero wait.


And that part is wrong...gun shows should be required to do background
checks, etc. just like any other gun dealer. And buying a gun should
require more than a valid driver's license. I have no qualms about gun
buyers having to prove their citizenship and a clean background
check...I just have problems with the stance that guns cause these
problems...they don't..bad people do...so screen out the bad people...

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
katy wrote:

Dave wrote:

On 17 Apr 2007 09:28:28 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:



GOD FORBID a few people can't own a machine gun.


You really think you can go down to your local gun store and buy a machine
gun?

I don't think so.

Rabid liberalism...of course, if the media says they can, they can...we
are a nation of sheep...or lemmings...take your pick...one crazy person,
not even an American, ahs the ability to spark up the liberal mindset
even though every indication said he should have been locked away
somewhere...He knew how to use those weapons which indicates
experience...so how come his parents didn't know what he was up to?
What's their culpability in all this? Why did they send a sick kid off
to college rather than seek professional help for him? We always look
for blame in the wrong places in this country. Blame the kid and the
environment which bred and raised him...


Firstly, I never said "local gun store." That's Dave's illiteration
not mine. Most Americans want gun control, but of course the NRA won't
allow it to happen. Besides, we wouldn't want to restrict Cheney from
shooting lawyers now would we.


He used a hunting weapon...that would not be inclusive in what we're
speaking about...and there are idiotic gun accidents in the hunting
field every year...so that means ban the guns? I imagine Cheney has
taken a gun safety class...for whatever it's worth, that was a stupid
incident...maybe though, we should give more lawyers guns and antler
hats and let them loose in the woods...(not Dave, though...he's a good
guy...)

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katy wrote:
Jonathan Ganz wrote:
I know you don't think so, but you can buy an assault rifle and a
semi-automatic handgun, not to mention cheap guns at gun shows with
zero wait.


And that part is wrong...gun shows should be required to do background
checks, etc. just like any other gun dealer. And buying a gun should
require more than a valid driver's license. I have no qualms about gun
buyers having to prove their citizenship and a clean background
check...I just have problems with the stance that guns cause these
problems...they don't..bad people do...so screen out the bad people...

That part is the important part that needs to be fixed. It's a hoax
perpetuated by the extreme right gun-toting that people who want
regulation want a complete ban or "blame" guns. Sure, there are people
on the extreme edge that advocate that, but that's unrealistic and
never going to happen.


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In article ,
katy wrote:
He used a hunting weapon...that would not be inclusive in what we're
speaking about...and there are idiotic gun accidents in the hunting
field every year...so that means ban the guns? I imagine Cheney has
taken a gun safety class...for whatever it's worth, that was a stupid
incident...maybe though, we should give more lawyers guns and antler
hats and let them loose in the woods...(not Dave, though...he's a good
guy...)

Chill. Cheney is just an asshole. He's not stupid.

I like the antler hat thing....


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In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 11:39:23 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:

GOD FORBID a few people can't own a machine gun.

You really think you can go down to your local gun store and buy a machine
gun?

I don't think so.

I know you don't think so, but you can buy an assault rifle and a
semi-automatic handgun, not to mention cheap guns at gun shows with
zero wait.

So which is it:

Are you too stupid to know the difference between a machine gun and the guns
you mention above?

Sorry... I'm not a a firearm expert. But, feel free to tell us, since
you obviously are. I do know the difference between a rational
argument, wherein people argue the facts and name-calling.

So, which is it?

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In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 14:10:13 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:

It's a hoax
perpetuated by the extreme right gun-toting that people who want
regulation want a complete ban or "blame" guns.

This from a guy who can't tell the difference between a semi-automatic and a
machine gun?


This from a guy who is interested in a civil society, rather than one
in tatters from unrelenting, unnecessary carnage.

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