This from a guy who is interested in a civil society, rather than one
in tatters from unrelenting, unnecessary carnage.

Good rational argument.

Are you too stupid to know the difference between a machine gun and the guns
you mention above?

Sorry... I'm not a a firearm expert. But, feel free to tell us, since
you obviously are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_gun
A fully automatic firearm. (hint they are already illegal)

In article . com,
Bill wrote:
This from a guy who is interested in a civil society, rather than one
in tatters from unrelenting, unnecessary carnage.

Good rational argument.

Thanks. I'm glad we agree.




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In article . com,
Bill wrote:
Are you too stupid to know the difference between a machine gun and the guns
you mention above?

Sorry... I'm not a a firearm expert. But, feel free to tell us, since
you obviously are.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_gun
A fully automatic firearm. (hint they are already illegal)

Hint: I know.




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"Dave" wrote in message
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On 17 Apr 2007 09:28:28 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:

GOD FORBID a few people can't own a machine gun.

You really think you can go down to your local gun store and buy a machine
gun?

I don't think so.

Actually you can. But it's not quite that simple. You have to pass a
rigorous FBI background check which takes about 6 to 9 months. And you have
to pay for a Federal permit to own such a weapon. The permit, last I knew,
cost around $400 in fees, tax, and msc. charges per gun. You can also buy
almost any gun with a silencer as well, if you are willing to pay the fees
and can pass the same background check. What's truly interesting is that
those guns never get used in the commission of a crime. It's all the
illegally-circulating ones that do.


Max

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In article ,
katy wrote:
Dave wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 09:28:28 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz)
said:


GOD FORBID a few people can't own a machine gun.


You really think you can go down to your local gun store and buy a
machine
gun?

I don't think so.

Rabid liberalism...of course, if the media says they can, they can...we
are a nation of sheep...or lemmings...take your pick...one crazy person,
not even an American, ahs the ability to spark up the liberal mindset
even though every indication said he should have been locked away
somewhere...He knew how to use those weapons which indicates
experience...so how come his parents didn't know what he was up to?
What's their culpability in all this? Why did they send a sick kid off
to college rather than seek professional help for him? We always look
for blame in the wrong places in this country. Blame the kid and the
environment which bred and raised him...

Firstly, I never said "local gun store." That's Dave's illiteration
not mine. Most Americans want gun control, but of course the NRA won't
allow it to happen.

We have tons of gun control. The 1968 Gun Control Act, for example, and
myriad others, both at the state and federal level. When I was a kid, you
could mail order virtually any gun, including WWII Lugers and P38s, if you
were 18 or older.

Besides, we wouldn't want to restrict Cheney from
shooting lawyers now would we.

I would certainly hope not. g

Max

In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 11:40:59 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:

Firstly, I never said "local gun store."

Very smelly red herring!

So just where is it you think these "few people" will be able to legally buy
machine guns, Jon?

Oh gee...let me think. How about a gun show? Nah, that would never
happen.


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In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 15:36:04 -0700, Bill said:

This from a guy who is interested in a civil society, rather than one
in tatters from unrelenting, unnecessary carnage.

Good rational argument.

I'd never accuse Jon of rational argument. g

I'd never accuse Dave of thinking clearly. g


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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article ,
Dave wrote:
On 17 Apr 2007 11:40:59 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:

Firstly, I never said "local gun store."

Very smelly red herring!

So just where is it you think these "few people" will be able to legally
buy
machine guns, Jon?

Oh gee...let me think. How about a gun show? Nah, that would never
happen.

1) Yes, you could conceivably buy a machine gun--more likely a submachine
gun--at a gun show, but you'd have to jump through the same set of hoops as
if you'd bought it from a licensed gun dealer. $400 federal tax, fees,
etc., permit, 6-9 month waiting period, extremely extensive FBI background
check etc.

2) You can't buy fully automatic weapons from a private seller without
transacting the sale through an FFL dealer with the above provisions. It's
illegal to do otherwise, thanks to gun control laws. So does it happen?
Probably. What does that tell you about gun control laws?

Max

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Maxprop wrote:
Oh gee...let me think. How about a gun show? Nah, that would never
happen.

1) Yes, you could conceivably buy a machine gun--more likely a submachine
gun--at a gun show, but you'd have to jump through the same set of hoops as
if you'd bought it from a licensed gun dealer. $400 federal tax, fees,
etc., permit, 6-9 month waiting period, extremely extensive FBI background
check etc.

Nope... when was the last time you were in a gun show that there
wasn't someone dealing under the table?

2) You can't buy fully automatic weapons from a private seller without
transacting the sale through an FFL dealer with the above provisions. It's
illegal to do otherwise, thanks to gun control laws. So does it happen?
Probably. What does that tell you about gun control laws?

Sure. It's illegal. I'm sure no one breaks the law.

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