"Steve Firth" wrote in message
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katy wrote:

Do you think that's what we've been doing in Gitmo? Rapping their
knuckles?


Yep..of sorts...we certainly aren't maiming them for
life...

Indeed not. For that you either rely on the brainless grunts in Iraq,
who unfortunately photograph themselves in action hence providing the
material for their own prosecution and the public humilation of your
nation, or on "rendition". Where of course rendition means "kidnapping"
then transport of the person to a country where they don't care about
torturing someone and leaving them maimed for life.

I find it hard to blame the people on the ground in Iraq. They were poorly
trained and supervised, sometimes being ordered to "soften up" prisoners by
direction from cia-like agencies. While they have and should have been
prosecuted for what they did, the actual blame goes much higher.

And then you admit confession extracted under torture into your legal
process. Hiding your involvement in torture under a blanket does not
absolve you from responsibility.

Unfortunately, many believe it does.

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