If the democrats cut funding to the troops, and keep adding pork to
bills intended to fund the troops at war.

As we saw the British were taken hostage because they did not have the
proper tools to do the job they were assigned to do. I bet the British
citizens dogged Blair so much over Irag he could not afford to give
his sailors bullets for the cheap side arms they carry. It's pathetic
the way they were captured. Blair can still not afford to give his
boat crews machine guns, and provide air support so the British have
decided not to inspect any other vessels.

So with no Iran ships getting inspected... just think what
Amadajanutball can smuggle out of Iran, maybe a nuke? Who knows, no
one's inspecting them.

The sailors captured put on a pathetic show, and Blair followed suit.

If you wan't to lose a war, do not provide the people fighting with
the proper tools they need.
Add pork to the war funding bill, and let the people fighting know you
respect spinach and peanuts more than them. Preserve the **** laiden
spinach growers, kill the troops.

Joe

Joe wrote:
If the democrats cut funding to the troops, and keep adding pork to
bills intended to fund the troops at war.

As we saw the British were taken hostage because they did not have the
proper tools to do the job they were assigned to do. I bet the British
citizens dogged Blair so much over Irag he could not afford to give
his sailors bullets for the cheap side arms they carry. It's pathetic
the way they were captured. Blair can still not afford to give his
boat crews machine guns, and provide air support so the British have
decided not to inspect any other vessels.

So with no Iran ships getting inspected... just think what
Amadajanutball can smuggle out of Iran, maybe a nuke? Who knows, no
one's inspecting them.

The sailors captured put on a pathetic show, and Blair followed suit.

If you wan't to lose a war, do not provide the people fighting with
the proper tools they need.
Add pork to the war funding bill, and let the people fighting know you
respect spinach and peanuts more than them. Preserve the **** laiden
spinach growers, kill the troops.

Joe


Certainly isn't the same British armed forces that went into the
Falklands for sure...but then, Margaret Thatcher was PM then...too bad
we can't clone both her and Ronald Reagan...

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
Preserve the **** laiden
spinach growers


Popeye would be pleased.

On Apr 6, 10:33 am, "Scotty" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...

Preserve the **** laiden
spinach growers

Popeye would be pleased.

Not if his Spinach has pig fecal matter encrusted on the leaves.

IMO the growers who killed people with tainted Spinach deserve to go
out of business.
Someone else an take up the slack, without tax payers paying for it.

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

As we saw the British were taken hostage because they did not have the
proper tools to do the job they were assigned to do. I bet the British
citizens dogged Blair so much over Irag he could not afford to give
his sailors bullets for the cheap side arms they carry. It's pathetic
the way they were captured.

They were adequately armed for the job they had to do namely the checking of
suspect civilian shipping. Moreover,they were doing it under UN mandate in
Iranian waters when they were faced with superior forces of Iranian boats
armed with machine guns, RPG's etc. They were not equipped to start a
hopeless battle against such odds and all end up dead and took the right
decision in the circumstances..

Blair can still not afford to give his
boat crews machine guns, and provide air support so the British have
decided not to inspect any other vessels.

Where did you get that from?-that is not true.

So with no Iran ships getting inspected... just think what
Amadajanutball can smuggle out of Iran, maybe a nuke? Who knows, no
one's inspecting them.

The sailors captured put on a pathetic show, and Blair followed suit.

Much more information emerged from a press conference today. They were each
held in solitary confinement with periodic interrogation while they were
blindfolded and handcuffed. They were made to stand blindfoldedwith their
hands against a wall while listening to weapons being cocked and thinking
they were going to be shot. They were told nothing about the efforts being
made to secure their release but were informed that if they did not confess
to intruding in Iranian waters they would be given 7 years in prison. The
only times they were allowed to join each other in a group was for the
staged TV appearances. The woman sailor was particularly targeted and was
told that all the others had been released except her.
.. The water was too shallow for their mother ship to get closer but GPS
fixes were ongoing from their own instruments as well as from the helicopter
and their mother ship, and it was made quite clear that they were still in
Iraqui waters when they were ambushed

If you wan't to lose a war, do not provide the people fighting with
the proper tools they need.

Nobody wants to lose a war but the bean counters seem to have control
whichever country you look at. One of our officers in Iraq got killed a few
months ago one week after he had been made to surrender his body armour to
someone who was 'deemed' to be more at risk. It get my back up when I read
that the UK Treasury says to the Government that we cannot afford another
warship, aircraft or whatever. What do they know in their Whitehall offices?
If I had my way they would be limited to telling the Cabinet that if they
spend more tha x billions next year taxes will have to go up.

Add pork to the war funding bill, and let the people fighting know you
respect spinach and peanuts more than them. Preserve the **** laiden
spinach growers, kill the troops.

I don't know anything about your war funding bill, but this is what you get
when all your officials have to gather votes to get elected. We used to have
a second chamber in Uk, called the House of Lords where membership, once
attained by birth or advancement, was permanent and allowed everyone to vote
according to conscience without fear of deselection next time around. Years
of socialist government are well on the way to abolishing that in favour of
an elected second house. So the Uk will soon have the 'pork' problem too, I
expect.
Joe

"Edgar" wrote in message
...

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

As we saw the British were taken hostage because they did not have the
proper tools to do the job they were assigned to do. I bet the British
citizens dogged Blair so much over Irag he could not afford to give
his sailors bullets for the cheap side arms they carry. It's pathetic
the way they were captured.

They were adequately armed for the job they had to do namely the checking
of suspect civilian shipping. Moreover,they were doing it under UN mandate
in Iranian waters when they were faced with superior forces of Iranian
boats armed with machine guns, RPG's etc. They were not equipped to start
a hopeless battle against such odds and all end up dead and took the right
decision in the circumstances..

Blair can still not afford to give his
boat crews machine guns, and provide air support so the British have
decided not to inspect any other vessels.

Where did you get that from?-that is not true.

So with no Iran ships getting inspected... just think what
Amadajanutball can smuggle out of Iran, maybe a nuke? Who knows, no
one's inspecting them.

The sailors captured put on a pathetic show, and Blair followed suit.

Much more information emerged from a press conference today. They were
each held in solitary confinement with periodic interrogation while they
were blindfolded and handcuffed. They were made to stand blindfoldedwith
their hands against a wall while listening to weapons being cocked and
thinking they were going to be shot. They were told nothing about the
efforts being made to secure their release but were informed that if they
did not confess to intruding in Iranian waters they would be given 7 years
in prison. The only times they were allowed to join each other in a group
was for the staged TV appearances. The woman sailor was particularly
targeted and was told that all the others had been released except her.
. The water was too shallow for their mother ship to get closer but GPS
fixes were ongoing from their own instruments as well as from the
helicopter and their mother ship, and it was made quite clear that they
were still in Iraqui waters when they were ambushed

If you wan't to lose a war, do not provide the people fighting with
the proper tools they need.

Nobody wants to lose a war but the bean counters seem to have control
whichever country you look at. One of our officers in Iraq got killed a
few months ago one week after he had been made to surrender his body
armour to someone who was 'deemed' to be more at risk. It get my back up
when I read that the UK Treasury says to the Government that we cannot
afford another warship, aircraft or whatever. What do they know in their
Whitehall offices? If I had my way they would be limited to telling the
Cabinet that if they spend more tha x billions next year taxes will have
to go up.

Add pork to the war funding bill, and let the people fighting know you
respect spinach and peanuts more than them. Preserve the **** laiden
spinach growers, kill the troops.

I don't know anything about your war funding bill, but this is what you
get when all your officials have to gather votes to get elected. We used
to have a second chamber in Uk, called the House of Lords where
membership, once attained by birth or advancement, was permanent and
allowed everyone to vote according to conscience without fear of
deselection next time around. Years of socialist government are well on
the way to abolishing that in favour of an elected second house. So the
Uk will soon have the 'pork' problem too, I expect.
Joe

Forget it Edgar. Joe gets upset and starts to rant before he's had his
coffee.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Apr 6, 11:37 am, "Edgar" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...

As we saw the British were taken hostage because they did not have the
proper tools to do the job they were assigned to do. I bet the British
citizens dogged Blair so much over Irag he could not afford to give
his sailors bullets for the cheap side arms they carry. It's pathetic
the way they were captured.

They were adequately armed for the job they had to do namely the checking of
suspect civilian shipping.

Bull****. Even here in Houston we have fast responce boats heavly
armed and armored.
We could lend you some, or lease them maybe.

Then provide close air support with a gunship like this stationed on
your flagship no less:
http://www.fantom-xp.com/wallpapers/...bow_Helicopter
I'm sure you guys could lease a few with crews from the USA.


Moreover,they were doing it under UN mandate in
Iranian waters when they were faced with superior forces of Iranian boats
armed with machine guns, RPG's etc.

Glad you are willing to admit some rinky dink gestapo squad in ski
boats using 1950's surplus weapons are " Superior forces"


They were not equipped

Indeed, they are not.


to start a
hopeless battle against such odds and all end up dead and took the right
decision in the circumstances..

Blair can still not afford to give his

boat crews machine guns, and provide air support so the British have
decided not to inspect any other vessels.

Where did you get that from?-that is not true.

Just what I saw on the news...did I miss something? Are you hording
this money and not providing the proper tools or what?



So with no Iran ships getting inspected... just think what
Amadajanutball can smuggle out of Iran, maybe a nuke? Who knows, no
one's inspecting them.

The sailors captured put on a pathetic show, and Blair followed suit.

Much more information emerged from a press conference today. They were each
held in solitary confinement with periodic interrogation while they were
blindfolded and handcuffed. They were made to stand blindfoldedwith their
hands against a wall while listening to weapons being cocked and thinking
they were going to be shot. They were told nothing about the efforts being
made to secure their release but were informed that if they did not confess
to intruding in Iranian waters they would be given 7 years in prison. The
only times they were allowed to join each other in a group was for the
staged TV appearances. The woman sailor was particularly targeted and was
told that all the others had been released except her.

What did you expect? Duuuuuuu. Tea and crumpets perhaps?


. The water was too shallow for their mother ship to get closer but GPS
fixes were ongoing from their own instruments as well as from the helicopter
and their mother ship, and it was made quite clear that they were still in
Iraqui waters when they were ambushed


No doubt.


If you wan't to lose a war, do not provide the people fighting with
the proper tools they need.

Nobody wants to lose a war but the bean counters seem to have control
whichever country you look at. One of our officers in Iraq got killed a few
months ago one week after he had been made to surrender his body armour to
someone who was 'deemed' to be more at risk. It get my back up when I read
that the UK Treasury says to the Government that we cannot afford another
warship, aircraft or whatever. What do they know in their Whitehall offices?
If I had my way they would be limited to telling the Cabinet that if they
spend more tha x billions next year taxes will have to go up.

You guys need another loan, just let us know.


Add pork to the war funding bill, and let the people fighting know you
respect spinach and peanuts more than them. Preserve the **** laiden
spinach growers, kill the troops.

I don't know anything about your war funding bill, but this is what you get
when all your officials have to gather votes to get elected. We used to have
a second chamber in Uk, called the House of Lords where membership, once
attained by birth or advancement, was permanent and allowed everyone to vote
according to conscience without fear of deselection next time around. Years
of socialist government are well on the way to abolishing that in favour of
an elected second house. So the Uk will soon have the 'pork' problem too, I
expect.

Inbread guys in white wigs?
They were a hoot on Monty Pythons Flying Circus.


Joe

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 6, 11:37 am, "Edgar" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...

As we saw the British were taken hostage because they did not have the
proper tools to do the job they were assigned to do. I bet the British
citizens dogged Blair so much over Irag he could not afford to give
his sailors bullets for the cheap side arms they carry. It's pathetic
the way they were captured.

They were adequately armed for the job they had to do namely the checking
of
suspect civilian shipping.

Bull****. Even here in Houston we have fast responce boats heavly
armed and armored.
We could lend you some, or lease them maybe.

Then provide close air support with a gunship like this stationed on
your flagship no less:
http://www.fantom-xp.com/wallpapers/...bow_Helicopter
I'm sure you guys could lease a few with crews from the USA.


Moreover,they were doing it under UN mandate in
Iranian waters when they were faced with superior forces of Iranian boats
armed with machine guns, RPG's etc.

Glad you are willing to admit some rinky dink gestapo squad in ski
boats using 1950's surplus weapons are " Superior forces"


They were not equipped

Indeed, they are not.


to start a
hopeless battle against such odds and all end up dead and took the right
decision in the circumstances..

Blair can still not afford to give his

boat crews machine guns, and provide air support so the British have
decided not to inspect any other vessels.

Where did you get that from?-that is not true.

Just what I saw on the news...did I miss something? Are you hording
this money and not providing the proper tools or what?



So with no Iran ships getting inspected... just think what
Amadajanutball can smuggle out of Iran, maybe a nuke? Who knows, no
one's inspecting them.

The sailors captured put on a pathetic show, and Blair followed suit.

Much more information emerged from a press conference today. They were
each
held in solitary confinement with periodic interrogation while they were
blindfolded and handcuffed. They were made to stand blindfoldedwith their
hands against a wall while listening to weapons being cocked and thinking
they were going to be shot. They were told nothing about the efforts
being
made to secure their release but were informed that if they did not
confess
to intruding in Iranian waters they would be given 7 years in prison. The
only times they were allowed to join each other in a group was for the
staged TV appearances. The woman sailor was particularly targeted and
was
told that all the others had been released except her.

What did you expect? Duuuuuuu. Tea and crumpets perhaps?


. The water was too shallow for their mother ship to get closer but GPS
fixes were ongoing from their own instruments as well as from the
helicopter
and their mother ship, and it was made quite clear that they were still
in
Iraqui waters when they were ambushed


No doubt.


If you wan't to lose a war, do not provide the people fighting with
the proper tools they need.

Nobody wants to lose a war but the bean counters seem to have control
whichever country you look at. One of our officers in Iraq got killed a
few
months ago one week after he had been made to surrender his body armour
to
someone who was 'deemed' to be more at risk. It get my back up when I
read
that the UK Treasury says to the Government that we cannot afford another
warship, aircraft or whatever. What do they know in their Whitehall
offices?
If I had my way they would be limited to telling the Cabinet that if they
spend more tha x billions next year taxes will have to go up.

You guys need another loan, just let us know.


Add pork to the war funding bill, and let the people fighting know you
respect spinach and peanuts more than them. Preserve the **** laiden
spinach growers, kill the troops.

I don't know anything about your war funding bill, but this is what you
get
when all your officials have to gather votes to get elected. We used to
have
a second chamber in Uk, called the House of Lords where membership, once
attained by birth or advancement, was permanent and allowed everyone to
vote
according to conscience without fear of deselection next time around.
Years
of socialist government are well on the way to abolishing that in favour
of
an elected second house. So the Uk will soon have the 'pork' problem
too, I
expect.

Inbread guys in white wigs?
They were a hoot on Monty Pythons Flying Circus.


Joe

Crappy smart-ass replies completely devoid of substance, Joe.
You disappoint me. I expected better from you but have seriously misjudged
you.

"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Apr 6, 11:37 am, "Edgar" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...

As we saw the British were taken hostage because they did not have the
proper tools to do the job they were assigned to do. I bet the British
citizens dogged Blair so much over Irag he could not afford to give
his sailors bullets for the cheap side arms they carry. It's pathetic
the way they were captured.

They were adequately armed for the job they had to do namely the checking
of
suspect civilian shipping.

Bull****. Even here in Houston we have fast responce boats heavly
armed and armored.
We could lend you some, or lease them maybe.


Arms for hostages? Ummm... we did that already.

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www.sailnow.com