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Capt. JG April 4th 07 04:37 AM

visual distress
 
It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they basically fell apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something other than material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic shutters by
Zarcor... http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm. Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Joe April 4th 07 03:01 PM

visual distress
 
On Apr 3, 10:37 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they basically fell apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something other than material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic shutters by
Zarcor...http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm. Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.

--
"j" ganz


You could buy a sewing machine and make new drapes for the cost of 2
Peekaboos. Line the back of the drapes with white UV fabric.

Joe


katy April 4th 07 03:19 PM

visual distress
 
Capt. JG wrote:
It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they basically fell apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something other than material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic shutters by
Zarcor... http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm. Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.


I went to JC Penny's and bought navy blue cotton/polyester valance cafe
curtains...attached the little hooks that fit into our track where the
cafe rings were and voila! Cheap...and they also come in white and
red...this is their 6 th year and they have faded on teh port side so
will be replaced...at a minimal cost...they are entirely washable...on
the 27 we had white duck with a blue stripe but I didn't care for the
white...spider dirt doesn't wash out very well and leaves stains...stay
away from white if you ahve any spiders...(haven't had the spider
problem in NC like we did in MI for some reason...)

katy April 4th 07 03:21 PM

visual distress
 
Joe wrote:
On Apr 3, 10:37 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they basically fell apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something other than material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic shutters by
Zarcor...http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm. Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.

--
"j" ganz



You could buy a sewing machine and make new drapes for the cost of 2
Peekaboos. Line the back of the drapes with white UV fabric.

Joe

....sunbrealla...you can buy itr online or sometimes you can get scraps
from a local person that does upholstery and awnings etc...for that
matter, if you're so inclined, you can make curtains out of sunbrella,
too...I have a seabag that I bought years ago made out of the
stuff...hjot pink and electric blue, and it has not faded in the 10
years or so I';ve had it..and it's been through the washing machine
countless times...

Martin Baxter April 4th 07 03:36 PM

visual distress
 
"Capt. JG" wrote:

It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they basically fell apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something other than material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic shutters by
Zarcor... http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm. Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.



Jeeze Jon, how big are your ports? We're not talking about 8' bay
windows here, you can sew up some new drapes in a matter of minutes with
a dollars worth of remnants. They'll probably last at least five years.

Cheers
Marty

Frank Boettcher April 4th 07 04:43 PM

visual distress
 
On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 20:37:54 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they basically fell apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something other than material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic shutters by
Zarcor... http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm. Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.



Boy is your timing off. I just discarded a set. The type that have
the small aluminum extruded track and the drapes had small plastic
slides sewn on. Been in my attic for 7-8 years. Might have fit.
Little faded but not too bad. You could have had them for shipping.

When I put new lexan ports on my last boat, I never reinstalled them.

But my vote would be sunbrella. Normally can buy at any fabric store,
don't have to go to a "marine" store and pay more.

Scotty April 4th 07 05:54 PM

visual distress
 
Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty


"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
On Apr 3, 10:37 pm, "Capt. JG"

wrote:

It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for

the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they

basically fell apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the

sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something

other than material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic

shutters by
Zarcor...http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm.

Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.

--
"j" ganz



You could buy a sewing machine and make new drapes for

the cost of 2
Peekaboos. Line the back of the drapes with white UV

fabric.

Joe

...sunbrealla...you can buy itr online or sometimes you

can get scraps
from a local person that does upholstery and awnings

etc...for that
matter, if you're so inclined, you can make curtains out

of sunbrella,
too...I have a seabag that I bought years ago made out of

the
stuff...hjot pink and electric blue, and it has not faded

in the 10
years or so I';ve had it..and it's been through the

washing machine
countless times...




katy April 4th 07 05:58 PM

visual distress
 
Scotty wrote:
Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty


"katy" wrote in message
...

Joe wrote:

On Apr 3, 10:37 pm, "Capt. JG"


wrote:

It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for


the portlights. I

took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they


basically fell apart

in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the


sun, original

equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something


other than material

that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic


shutters by

Zarcor...http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm.


Someone have thoughts

about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.

--
"j" ganz


You could buy a sewing machine and make new drapes for


the cost of 2

Peekaboos. Line the back of the drapes with white UV


fabric.

Joe


...sunbrealla...you can buy itr online or sometimes you


can get scraps

from a local person that does upholstery and awnings


etc...for that

matter, if you're so inclined, you can make curtains out


of sunbrella,

too...I have a seabag that I bought years ago made out of


the

stuff...hjot pink and electric blue, and it has not faded


in the 10

years or so I';ve had it..and it's been through the


washing machine

countless times...




Becasue we are in a marina...and sleep in a marina...and with the lgihts
on at night you become a fishbowl...I really don't like feeding the
impulses of every voyeur walking by on the dock...even when you're on an
anchor or the mooring you can have "interested" parties deift by, like
people in bass boats with quiet trolling motors, that peer through at
you...we have had this happen...when I am on my boat, it is my home and
just like I don't like people standing in the yard or on the sidewalk
peering in, I don't like it on my baot either...but then, I imagine
you're a bit of an exibitionsit so maybe it doesn't matter to you...

Joe April 4th 07 06:22 PM

visual distress
 
On Apr 4, 11:54 am, "Scotty" wrote:
Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty


They keep out light, keeping the interior cooler.

Joe





Capt. JG April 4th 07 07:03 PM

visual distress
 
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 3, 10:37 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they basically fell
apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something other than
material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic shutters by
Zarcor...http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm. Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.

--
"j" ganz


You could buy a sewing machine and make new drapes for the cost of 2
Peekaboos. Line the back of the drapes with white UV fabric.

Joe



Already own a sewing machine... decided I don't really want the hassle.
Besides, I'm not that good on it to make the drapes look right. The quote I
got from them was about $225 for the four portlights.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG April 4th 07 07:04 PM

visual distress
 
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty


"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
On Apr 3, 10:37 pm, "Capt. JG"

wrote:

It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for

the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they

basically fell apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the

sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something

other than material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic

shutters by
Zarcor...http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm.

Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.

--
"j" ganz


You could buy a sewing machine and make new drapes for

the cost of 2
Peekaboos. Line the back of the drapes with white UV

fabric.

Joe

...sunbrealla...you can buy itr online or sometimes you

can get scraps
from a local person that does upholstery and awnings

etc...for that
matter, if you're so inclined, you can make curtains out

of sunbrella,
too...I have a seabag that I bought years ago made out of

the
stuff...hjot pink and electric blue, and it has not faded

in the 10
years or so I';ve had it..and it's been through the

washing machine
countless times...





To keep the light out and have some privacy when she-who-must-be-obeyed
visists the boat. g


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG April 4th 07 07:04 PM

visual distress
 
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 4, 11:54 am, "Scotty" wrote:
Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty


They keep out light, keeping the interior cooler.

Joe


Yep... cooler also. Also keeps fading of the interior fabics down.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG April 4th 07 07:05 PM

visual distress
 
"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they basically fell
apart in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something other than
material that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic
shutters by Zarcor... http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm. Someone
have thoughts about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.


I went to JC Penny's and bought navy blue cotton/polyester valance cafe
curtains...attached the little hooks that fit into our track where the
cafe rings were and voila! Cheap...and they also come in white and
red...this is their 6 th year and they have faded on teh port side so will
be replaced...at a minimal cost...they are entirely washable...on the 27
we had white duck with a blue stripe but I didn't care for the
white...spider dirt doesn't wash out very well and leaves stains...stay
away from white if you ahve any spiders...(haven't had the spider problem
in NC like we did in MI for some reason...)



Apparently, the shutters are spider-proof, according to their website.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG April 4th 07 07:06 PM

visual distress
 
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote:

It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they basically fell
apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something other than
material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic shutters by
Zarcor... http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm. Someone have
thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.



Jeeze Jon, how big are your ports? We're not talking about 8' bay
windows here, you can sew up some new drapes in a matter of minutes with
a dollars worth of remnants. They'll probably last at least five years.

Cheers
Marty



True, but I'm not sure they'll look nice enough... it's a thought certainly.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Martin Baxter April 4th 07 07:22 PM

visual distress
 
"Capt. JG" wrote:

Joe


Already own a sewing machine... decided I don't really want the hassle.
Besides, I'm not that good on it to make the drapes look right. The quote I
got from them was about $225 for the four portlights.


Jon, it's really easy, I did like Katy, bought some of those short
kitchen drapes, which still weren't short enough. I folded the bottom
hem on itself twice and sewed a sinlge straight seam along them, done.
It was a discount store, I think I paid about 6 bucks for the drapes.

Cheers
Marty
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katy April 4th 07 07:25 PM

visual distress
 
Capt. JG wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Apr 3, 10:37 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they basically fell
apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something other than
material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic shutters by
Zarcor...http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm. Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.

--
"j" ganz


You could buy a sewing machine and make new drapes for the cost of 2
Peekaboos. Line the back of the drapes with white UV fabric.

Joe




Already own a sewing machine... decided I don't really want the hassle.
Besides, I'm not that good on it to make the drapes look right. The quote I
got from them was about $225 for the four portlights.


Good grief! I paid 29.00 all told for mine! TThat is not an item that
you will recoup in a sale of the boat...no one buys a boat based on the
curtains....unless you plan to keep the baot forever (and even then I
couldn't justify that expense) go the cheaper route...

katy April 4th 07 07:26 PM

visual distress
 
Capt. JG wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Apr 4, 11:54 am, "Scotty" wrote:

Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty


They keep out light, keeping the interior cooler.

Joe



Yep... cooler also. Also keeps fading of the interior fabics down.


We keep our open when not on teh boat so that mildew will be exposed to
light if it should raise it's nasty self in the boat...

LLoyd Bonafide April 4th 07 07:49 PM

visual distress
 

"katy" wrote in message

Becasue we are in a marina...and sleep in a marina...and with the lgihts
on at night you become a fishbowl...I really don't like feeding the
impulses of every voyeur walking by on the dock...even when you're on an
anchor or the mooring you can have "interested" parties deift by, like
people in bass boats with quiet trolling motors, that peer through at
you...we have had this happen...when I am on my boat, it is my home and
just like I don't like people standing in the yard or on the sidewalk
peering in, I don't like it on my baot either...but then, I imagine you're
a bit of an exibitionsit so maybe it doesn't matter to you...


Would you consider it "visual distress" for the voyeur peering in (at) your
ports? Give them a good titty bouncing and then blind them with a red or
green laser pointer.

Lloyd



katy April 4th 07 07:52 PM

visual distress
 
Martin Baxter wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote:

Joe


Already own a sewing machine... decided I don't really want the hassle.
Besides, I'm not that good on it to make the drapes look right. The quote I
got from them was about $225 for the four portlights.



Jon, it's really easy, I did like Katy, bought some of those short
kitchen drapes, which still weren't short enough. I folded the bottom
hem on itself twice and sewed a sinlge straight seam along them, done.
It was a discount store, I think I paid about 6 bucks for the drapes.

Cheers
Marty
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Our ports are deep so I didn't have to do that....if they are too long,
there is another way other tahn making a bulky edge by folding...cut off
the original hem and then use NoSew to fold up a much lesser amount of
material into the new hem...quite easy, is water resistant and is quite
quick...this, of course, would be a ...masculine...apparoach...I hand
hem things still...

katy April 4th 07 07:54 PM

visual distress
 
Lloyd Bonafide wrote:
"katy" wrote in message


Becasue we are in a marina...and sleep in a marina...and with the lgihts
on at night you become a fishbowl...I really don't like feeding the
impulses of every voyeur walking by on the dock...even when you're on an
anchor or the mooring you can have "interested" parties deift by, like
people in bass boats with quiet trolling motors, that peer through at
you...we have had this happen...when I am on my boat, it is my home and
just like I don't like people standing in the yard or on the sidewalk
peering in, I don't like it on my baot either...but then, I imagine you're
a bit of an exibitionsit so maybe it doesn't matter to you...



Would you consider it "visual distress" for the voyeur peering in (at) your
ports?


Nope...I'm fiarly good looking for my age...

Give them a good titty bouncing

Nope...why give them a treat?

and then blind them with a red or
green laser pointer.


Nope...easier to just kep them out in the first place...

Lloyd



Capt. JG April 4th 07 08:32 PM

visual distress
 
"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Apr 4, 11:54 am, "Scotty" wrote:

Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty

They keep out light, keeping the interior cooler.

Joe



Yep... cooler also. Also keeps fading of the interior fabics down.


We keep our open when not on teh boat so that mildew will be exposed to
light if it should raise it's nasty self in the boat...



I don't bother about that in the living space. I do keep the enclosed spaces
open when I'm not around... attempting to get some airflow in there.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG April 4th 07 08:33 PM

visual distress
 
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote:

Joe


Already own a sewing machine... decided I don't really want the hassle.
Besides, I'm not that good on it to make the drapes look right. The quote
I
got from them was about $225 for the four portlights.


Jon, it's really easy, I did like Katy, bought some of those short
kitchen drapes, which still weren't short enough. I folded the bottom
hem on itself twice and sewed a sinlge straight seam along them, done.
It was a discount store, I think I paid about 6 bucks for the drapes.

Cheers
Marty
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Well, if I was going to do that, I'd want them to be pleated (sp?), and I'm
not sure I'm up for it. They would have to be in six sections for about 14'
total of portlight.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG April 4th 07 08:34 PM

visual distress
 
"katy" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

On Apr 3, 10:37 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for the portlights.
I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they basically fell
apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something other than
material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic shutters by
Zarcor...http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm. Someone have
thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.

--
"j" ganz

You could buy a sewing machine and make new drapes for the cost of 2
Peekaboos. Line the back of the drapes with white UV fabric.

Joe




Already own a sewing machine... decided I don't really want the hassle.
Besides, I'm not that good on it to make the drapes look right. The quote
I got from them was about $225 for the four portlights.


Good grief! I paid 29.00 all told for mine! TThat is not an item that you
will recoup in a sale of the boat...no one buys a boat based on the
curtains....unless you plan to keep the baot forever (and even then I
couldn't justify that expense) go the cheaper route...



I'll consider it... certainly. I'm just not sure I'd do a nice job. I think
I'll try one and see how it looks.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Scotty April 4th 07 09:36 PM

visual distress
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...



Already own a sewing machine...


why am I not surprised by this.




Scotty April 4th 07 10:30 PM

visual distress
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 16:36:38 -0400, "Scotty"

wrote:


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...



Already own a sewing machine...


why am I not surprised by this.



Because you own one, too.



Wrong, dickweed, I own two.

SBV



Scotty April 4th 07 10:33 PM

visual distress
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:58:38 -0400, katy




I would look in Scotty's pants more than once.

CWM


pervert!



katy April 4th 07 10:45 PM

visual distress
 
Scotty wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...



Already own a sewing machine...



why am I not surprised by this.



So do you....so what deos that mean?

Scotty April 4th 07 11:09 PM

visual distress
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 4 Apr 2007 17:33:11 -0400, "Scotty"

wrote:


"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:58:38 -0400, katy




I would look in Scotty's pants more than once.

CWM


pervert!


Dreamy!



stop it.



Maxprop April 5th 07 01:06 AM

visual distress
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty


That's what I was wondering.


Max



Maxprop April 5th 07 01:06 AM

visual distress
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 4, 11:54 am, "Scotty" wrote:
Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty


They keep out light, keeping the interior cooler.

Joe


Yep... cooler also. Also keeps fading of the interior fabics down.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Say what? If your ports are glass, almost no UV gets through them. That's
why fabrics in cars seldom fade. Not to mention that you should have
UV-stable fabrics in your boat anyway.

In fairness, Jon, I realize that Sabre uses those long, fixed Plexiglas
windows, and I can see why you might want to have drapes over them. Our ten
house ports are rectangular opening bronze ports with glass, and it's not
really easy to see inside the boat, unless you are right up on the port.
We've never used drapes in this boat, and I don't foresee us getting them.
We put a slip-on cover over the two ports in the V-berth to keep out sun in
the morning, if we plan to sleep in a bit. That's about the only
concession.

Katy is right--Sunbrella is best. It is tough, won't fade, and it won't
degrade with time.

Max



Maxprop April 5th 07 01:06 AM

visual distress
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty


"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
On Apr 3, 10:37 pm, "Capt. JG"

wrote:

It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for

the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they

basically fell apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the

sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something

other than material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic

shutters by
Zarcor...http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm.

Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.

--
"j" ganz


You could buy a sewing machine and make new drapes for

the cost of 2
Peekaboos. Line the back of the drapes with white UV

fabric.

Joe

...sunbrealla...you can buy itr online or sometimes you

can get scraps
from a local person that does upholstery and awnings

etc...for that
matter, if you're so inclined, you can make curtains out

of sunbrella,
too...I have a seabag that I bought years ago made out of

the
stuff...hjot pink and electric blue, and it has not faded

in the 10
years or so I';ve had it..and it's been through the

washing machine
countless times...





To keep the light out and have some privacy when she-who-must-be-obeyed
visists the boat. g


At your age, Jon, you should be proud to show off your sexual prowess to
others. If you still have any . . .

Max



LLoyd Bonafide April 5th 07 04:41 AM

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
hlink.net...

At your age, Jon, you should be proud to show off your sexual prowess to
others. If you still have any . . .

Max

Don't encourage him. He may knock out the glass and turn it into a glory
hole.



Capt. JG April 5th 07 05:28 AM

visual distress
 
"Maxprop" wrote in message
rthlink.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...
On Apr 4, 11:54 am, "Scotty" wrote:
Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty

They keep out light, keeping the interior cooler.

Joe


Yep... cooler also. Also keeps fading of the interior fabics down.
--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


Say what? If your ports are glass, almost no UV gets through them.
That's why fabrics in cars seldom fade. Not to mention that you should
have UV-stable fabrics in your boat anyway.

In fairness, Jon, I realize that Sabre uses those long, fixed Plexiglas
windows, and I can see why you might want to have drapes over them. Our
ten house ports are rectangular opening bronze ports with glass, and it's
not really easy to see inside the boat, unless you are right up on the
port. We've never used drapes in this boat, and I don't foresee us getting
them. We put a slip-on cover over the two ports in the V-berth to keep out
sun in the morning, if we plan to sleep in a bit. That's about the only
concession.

Katy is right--Sunbrella is best. It is tough, won't fade, and it won't
degrade with time.

Max


Well, something killed the drapes were there.. not just age I think. I think
they were ugly.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG April 5th 07 05:28 AM

visual distress
 
"Maxprop" wrote in message
hlink.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Why do you need 'curtains' on a sail boat?

Scotty


"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
On Apr 3, 10:37 pm, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

It seems that my boat came with "drapes" in a track for
the portlights. I
took them down intending to wash/repair them, but they
basically fell apart
in my hands... must have been totally degraded by the
sun, original
equipment, or both.

I would really like to replace the drapes with something
other than material
that can be so easily degraded. I've heard about plastic
shutters by
Zarcor...http://www.zarcor.com/PeekaBooo/index.htm.
Someone have thoughts
about alternatives to the drapes besides this?

Besides, they're ugly and don't work that well.

--
"j" ganz


You could buy a sewing machine and make new drapes for
the cost of 2
Peekaboos. Line the back of the drapes with white UV
fabric.

Joe

...sunbrealla...you can buy itr online or sometimes you
can get scraps
from a local person that does upholstery and awnings
etc...for that
matter, if you're so inclined, you can make curtains out
of sunbrella,
too...I have a seabag that I bought years ago made out of
the
stuff...hjot pink and electric blue, and it has not faded
in the 10
years or so I';ve had it..and it's been through the
washing machine
countless times...




To keep the light out and have some privacy when she-who-must-be-obeyed
visists the boat. g


At your age, Jon, you should be proud to show off your sexual prowess to
others. If you still have any . . .

Max


I'm not that old. g

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG April 5th 07 05:29 AM

visual distress
 
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Already own a sewing machine...


why am I not surprised by this.


Why don't you own one? Can't afford it? I've already repaired my sail cover
and dodger. Saved me a couple grand.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Jeff April 5th 07 01:48 PM

visual distress
 
* Capt. JG wrote, On 4/5/2007 12:29 AM:
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...


Already own a sewing machine...

why am I not surprised by this.


Why don't you own one? Can't afford it? I've already repaired my sail cover
and dodger. Saved me a couple grand.

Scotty uses duct tape for all of his sewing needs.

Scotty April 5th 07 01:58 PM

visual distress
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...



Already own a sewing machine...


why am I not surprised by this.


Why don't you own one? Can't afford it?


I have two!

I've already repaired my sail cover
and dodger. Saved me a couple grand.


I made a Genny last year, and am working on a main right
now.

BLAM!


Capt Scott



Scotty April 5th 07 02:01 PM

visual distress
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Capt. JG wrote, On 4/5/2007 12:29 AM:
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...


Already own a sewing machine...
why am I not surprised by this.


Why don't you own one? Can't afford it? I've already

repaired my sail cover
and dodger. Saved me a couple grand.

Scotty uses duct tape for all of his sewing needs.


My old Genny has a lot of sail repair tape on her.

How was DC? It was cold and rainy in Hingham, I didn't
stick around long.

Scotty



Capt. JG April 5th 07 05:46 PM

visual distress
 
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...



Already own a sewing machine...

why am I not surprised by this.


Why don't you own one? Can't afford it?


I have two!

I've already repaired my sail cover
and dodger. Saved me a couple grand.


I made a Genny last year, and am working on a main right
now.

BLAM!



Did it break or did someone shoot you?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Jeff April 5th 07 09:22 PM

visual distress
 
* Scotty wrote, On 4/5/2007 9:01 AM:

Scotty uses duct tape for all of his sewing needs.


My old Genny has a lot of sail repair tape on her.

How was DC? It was cold and rainy in Hingham, I didn't
stick around long.


Spring time! Cherry Blossom Festival, temps up to the 80's. We came
home to a snow storm!

I stayed with a rich cousin. He gave me a ride in his Ferrari 360
Spider - awesome car but essentially useless. He's in the process of
buying a Doral Alegria, so he had a lot of questions like "do you
really need 3:1 scope when you anchor?", and "is insurance required?"
and "will I use the autopilot?" and "what do you think of paying extra
for A/C in the cockpit?"

If you run into him (or vice versa) tell him I said "hi!"

http://www.doralcorporations.com/bra...0&action=specs


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