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Scotty March 23rd 07 12:32 AM

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
message news:RHCMh.109466

. Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to
shore.


Shore? Why do you feel the need to go to shore? When I
anchor out, I stay on the boat because that is where I
wanted to be in the first place.
You, sir, sound like a land lubber!

Scotty




Wilbur Hubbard March 23rd 07 12:44 AM

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
...

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in

Both of you idiots don't have a clue.
Why, I've had a couple
or three other male sailors come by to visit and compare

cockpits
and shoot smack. It's nothing to go through a
couple quarts of rum and a ten pound bag of weed in one

afternoon. We can
moan loudly, shoot our ''guns'' , **** all over each other

and generally
raise hell, all of which would get you evicted from a

straight marina.

For me, it's an alternate lifestyle all of its own

Wilbur Hubbard



Oh brother, now I'm getting a clue.

SV



Hahahahahahahah! Good one!

WH


Wilbur Hubbard March 23rd 07 12:47 AM

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
. ..

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
message ...

Nope, it is you two who just firmly established that you

are the
lubbers. You can stay aboard when you anchor out because

you anchor out
from time to time on the week-ends as a getaway from your

shoreside
life.


Oh, so you're saying you don't have a shoreside life? Too
sad.



Only lubbers claim a shoreside life. Real sailors live aboard and sail
for a life. But, you'd never understand so why am I wasting my time
trying to explain anything to a domesticated slave? Now run along, I
think I hear your wife calling you. I bet you sure hate that honeydo
list.

Wilbur Hubbard


Scotty March 23rd 07 01:32 AM

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
message ...

Nope, it is you two who just firmly established that you

are the
lubbers. You can stay aboard when you anchor out because

you anchor out
from time to time on the week-ends as a getaway from your

shoreside
life.


Oh, so you're saying you don't have a shoreside life? Too
sad.





Scotty March 23rd 07 01:38 AM

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in

Both of you idiots don't have a clue.
Why, I've had a couple
or three other male sailors come by to visit and compare

cockpits
and shoot smack. It's nothing to go through a
couple quarts of rum and a ten pound bag of weed in one

afternoon. We can
moan loudly, shoot our ''guns'' , **** all over each other

and generally
raise hell, all of which would get you evicted from a

straight marina.

For me, it's an alternate lifestyle all of its own

Wilbur Hubbard



Oh brother, now I'm getting a clue.

SV



Jeff March 23rd 07 01:48 AM

The average boat owning idiot.
 
* Wilbur Hubbard wrote, On 3/22/2007 8:24 PM:
....
I agree its a reasonable topic of discussion, but basing it on bogus
numbers is counterproductive.


So, let's split the difference then. You purposely went low and ...


No, I tried to be dead on.

I purposely went high.


So you admit you knowingly lied. But what else is new?

Let's compromise and call it 2OK a year. That's
still ridiculous. And it depends a lot on where you slip your boat.
Some places in some of the more expensive parts of the country
rent slips for a forty foot boat, for example, for well
over a grand a month.


Its true that you can find super expensive slips, just like you can
find super expensive houses. But the average is lower than your
quote. Not to mention, 40 feet is more than average.

Your
finance interest rates are too low. etc.


No, I got today's rate from the Essex Finance site, and ran it through
their calculator. That's the difference, I deal with reality, and you
live in a fantasy world.

So you should be willing to
compromise and split the difference too if you're reasonable.


OK, your premise leads to 14K/per year but 10K is easily possible.
Splitting the difference is 12K.

Elsewhere, you claim that investing the money would yield $540K, but
if I plug the real numbers ($14K plus your expenses), you'd actually
be ahead $225K. This is assuming 9% returns, but not factoring in
taxes owed on the income, and the tax deduction of the boat loan,
which could bring the difference down to about $180K. Clearly, its
still a high price to pay, but then, you can't take it with you.

Scotty March 23rd 07 01:59 AM

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in
message ...



Only lubbers claim a shoreside life. Real sailors live

aboard and sail
for a life. But, you'd never understand so why am I

wasting my time
trying to explain anything to a domesticated slave? Now

run along, I
think I hear your wife calling you. I bet you sure hate

that honeydo
list.



Damn! She did just call me. Time for bed.

Oh, about the Honey-do list..... the rewards far outweigh
the effort.

;)



Maxprop March 23rd 07 03:23 AM

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Gogarty" wrote in message
...
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Absolutely. My father was fond of saying: "This isn't a dress
rehearsal."
His point being that one lives life or one does not. You can't take
your
money with you, and I sure as hell have no great desire to pass it one
to my
kid and screw her up.

We initially thought of naming our boat "SOCI" with a sedilla on the C.
But we
thought it might be unncessarily provocative. Short for Spending Our
Children's Inheritance.


I've seen similar names, such as "Our Kids' Inheritance" and "Leaving
Nothing Behind for the Kids." The last one is a puzzlement--can you
imagine calling that in when asking for a slip?

Max



Asking for a slip? And that alone doesn't embarrass you?


Not in the least. My wife and I prefer to anchor whenever we can. Some
places we choose to visit don't have anchorages, and occasionally we have
people aboard who have different preferences and requirements than ours. We
make every attempt to accommodate our passengers/friends.

Begging to pay big bucks to tie up to two piles and a pier squeezed in
among other losers while having your boat attacked by stray electricity,


In over 40 years of boating, I have yet to experience anything resembling
enough stray electricity to affect any more harm to my boat than a slight
degradation of my sacrificial zincs.

water polluted with sewage and fuel and oil,


Not in the Great Lakes. I'm sorry if you must sail such waters.

subjected to roaches, noise, fumes, rats, cats and dogs ****ing on your
lines.


Never in 40 years.

The very least of your worries is how stupid the name of your boat is, I
should think. Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to shore.
Why on earth would you pay money to support any operation that treats you
like scum and charges an arm and a leg for it. Ya gotta be a masochist.


We've done the mooring bit, and of course we anchor far more often than take
transient slips when cruising. But we enjoy the camaraderie of a slip in
our home port. Most of the people on the dock are close friends. We party
with them, we sail with them, or take them sailing with us. We dine with
them, and have pleasant evenings with them while chatting and watching the
sun set off the end of our dock, all while loners and antisocial types hang
on their moorings in solitude, wondering what all the laughter from our dock
is about. Each to his own. Of course I realize you'd prefer a world in
which everyone thought exactly as you do, but that might be a world in which
most of us would prefer not to live.

Max



Maxprop March 23rd 07 03:24 AM

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:39:07 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to
shore.


Real sailors are not named Wilbur.

It has an un-manly sound to it.


Sounds like someone who'd own a talking horse.

Max



Maxprop March 23rd 07 03:25 AM

The average boat owning idiot.
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 17:39:07 -0400, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Real sailors anchor or moor out and take a dinghy to
shore.


Real sailors are not named Wilbur.

It has an un-manly sound to it.


Beats the hell outta Lauri.


In your wildest dreams. Lauri is a sexy name. Wilbur is . . . . . . um,
Wilbur. Neal is for nerds.

Max




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