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Wilbur Hubbard March 13th 07 04:47 PM

Is uncoated fiberglass affected by UV?
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article ,
Milton Waddams wrote:
Does uncoated fiberglass lose it's strength with long term exposure to
UV light? Should I cover it with paint or gelcoat? This is some wooden
thing I built and coated with cloth and resin. Thanks all,

Milton


Yes, you need to cover it. Fiberglass does degrade with UV
exposure. That's why you cover it.



Sorry Ganz, but fiberglass does NOT degrade because of UV exposure.
Glass is proof against UV. It's not the glass that's the problem. It's
the resin that binds the glass. Perhaps if you had not consumed mass
quantities of illegal drugs you would be able to demonstrate clear
thinking once in a while.

Wilbur Hubbard


Jonathan Ganz March 13th 07 05:26 PM

Is uncoated fiberglass affected by UV?
 
In article ,
Milton Waddams wrote:
Does uncoated fiberglass lose it's strength with long term exposure to
UV light? Should I cover it with paint or gelcoat? This is some wooden
thing I built and coated with cloth and resin. Thanks all,

Milton


Yes, you need to cover it. Fiberglass does degrade with UV
exposure. That's why you cover it.

Do a google search for details.

Try http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelcoat for the quick and dirty....
--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Maxprop March 13th 07 11:35 PM

Is uncoated fiberglass affected by UV?
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Milton Waddams wrote:
Does uncoated fiberglass lose it's strength with long term exposure to
UV light? Should I cover it with paint or gelcoat? This is some wooden
thing I built and coated with cloth and resin. Thanks all,

Milton


Yes, you need to cover it. Fiberglass does degrade with UV
exposure. That's why you cover it.



Sorry Ganz, but fiberglass does NOT degrade because of UV exposure. Glass
is proof against UV. It's not the glass that's the problem. It's the resin
that binds the glass. Perhaps if you had not consumed mass quantities of
illegal drugs you would be able to demonstrate clear thinking once in a
while.


"Fiberglass" is synonymous with 'fiber-reinforced resin.' Jon was referring
to the composite structure, of which a significant part is the resin. He
wasn't wrong, and you are a pedantic jerk.

Max



Wilbur Hubbard March 14th 07 01:05 AM

Is uncoated fiberglass affected by UV?
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article ,
Milton Waddams wrote:
Does uncoated fiberglass lose it's strength with long term exposure
to
UV light? Should I cover it with paint or gelcoat? This is some
wooden
thing I built and coated with cloth and resin. Thanks all,

Milton

Yes, you need to cover it. Fiberglass does degrade with UV
exposure. That's why you cover it.



Sorry Ganz, but fiberglass does NOT degrade because of UV exposure.
Glass is proof against UV. It's not the glass that's the problem.
It's the resin that binds the glass. Perhaps if you had not consumed
mass quantities of illegal drugs you would be able to demonstrate
clear thinking once in a while.


"Fiberglass" is synonymous with 'fiber-reinforced resin.' Jon was
referring to the composite structure, of which a significant part is
the resin. He wasn't wrong, and you are a pedantic jerk.



Ganz was definitely wrong and you are wrong as well. Fiberglass is the
glass fiber. Is that so hard to understand? GRP stands for glass
reinforced plastic. The resin is the plastic. Saying fiberglass, which
is only the glass, is affected by UV is simple-minded. It demonstrates
your ignorance. It's the resin that's degraded by UV and not the glass.
Waddams is ignorant of the proper terminology and so is Ganz and so are
you apparently. Here is the dictionary definition of fiberglass.

fi•ber•glass \-'glas\ n : glass in fibrous form used in making various
products (as insulation)

Now, run along little illiterate.

Wilbur Hubbard



Maxprop March 14th 07 03:34 AM

Is uncoated fiberglass affected by UV?
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Milton Waddams wrote:
Does uncoated fiberglass lose it's strength with long term exposure to
UV light? Should I cover it with paint or gelcoat? This is some wooden
thing I built and coated with cloth and resin. Thanks all,

Milton

Yes, you need to cover it. Fiberglass does degrade with UV
exposure. That's why you cover it.


Sorry Ganz, but fiberglass does NOT degrade because of UV exposure.
Glass is proof against UV. It's not the glass that's the problem. It's
the resin that binds the glass. Perhaps if you had not consumed mass
quantities of illegal drugs you would be able to demonstrate clear
thinking once in a while.


"Fiberglass" is synonymous with 'fiber-reinforced resin.' Jon was
referring to the composite structure, of which a significant part is the
resin. He wasn't wrong, and you are a pedantic jerk.



Ganz was definitely wrong and you are wrong as well. Fiberglass is the
glass fiber.


Really. So all that corporate boat advertising literature stating their
boats are built of "fiberglass" is wrong by your decree? And
www.yachtworld.com is also wrong when using the symbol 'F' for construction
material when referring to the boats in their listings? And the ski
industry was wrong for advertising "fiberglass" construction?

Is that so hard to understand? GRP stands for glass reinforced plastic.


Ask almost anyone what his FRP or GRP boat is made of and I'll bet you'll
hear "fiberglass." Most folks aren't as pedantic as thou. Or as jerky.

The resin is the plastic. Saying fiberglass, which is only the glass, is
affected by UV is simple-minded.


Saying "fiberglass" is convention. You are the soldier out of step with the
rest of the battalion.

It demonstrates your ignorance. It's the resin that's degraded by UV and
not the glass.


I'm aware of that. It's your ignorance that fails to recognize that
conventional speech transcends technical details in all walks of life. The
vast majority of people who own fiberglass boats aren't engineers or
scientists. Fiberglass is the commonly-used term, not GRP. But to make my
point, an engineer in our marina told me last summer that he wished he could
afford an aluminum boat in lieu of his "fiberglass" one.

Waddams is ignorant of the proper terminology and so is Ganz and so are
you apparently. Here is the dictionary definition of fiberglass.

fi•ber•glass \-'glas\ n : glass in fibrous form used in making various
products (as insulation)

Now, run along little illiterate.


I'll bet you're absolutely a stitch at a party. Of course I doubt if you
still get invited to any, if your pedantic outlook on everything pervades
your social intercourse with others. You, no doubt, are the guy others tend
to ignore, or talk about behind your back: "That Neal Warren is such an
asshole--always spouting off about how everyone is wrong and he's right . .
.." Most likely you sit and home with the inflatable doll, telling "her" all
about how the rest of the world is stupid. And of course her response is:
"hisssssssssssss."

Max



Jonathan Ganz March 14th 07 06:09 AM

Is uncoated fiberglass affected by UV?
 
In article .net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Milton Waddams wrote:
Does uncoated fiberglass lose it's strength with long term exposure to
UV light? Should I cover it with paint or gelcoat? This is some wooden
thing I built and coated with cloth and resin. Thanks all,

Milton

Yes, you need to cover it. Fiberglass does degrade with UV
exposure. That's why you cover it.



Sorry Ganz, but fiberglass does NOT degrade because of UV exposure. Glass
is proof against UV. It's not the glass that's the problem. It's the resin
that binds the glass. Perhaps if you had not consumed mass quantities of
illegal drugs you would be able to demonstrate clear thinking once in a
while.


"Fiberglass" is synonymous with 'fiber-reinforced resin.' Jon was referring
to the composite structure, of which a significant part is the resin. He
wasn't wrong, and you are a pedantic jerk.


Don't be too hard on Neal. He really can't help himself. He really
needs help... still obsessing about me after all these years. Quite
sad actually.

The best method to help him is to ignore him... but, I know that's
very difficult.

--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



Jonathan Ganz March 14th 07 06:13 AM

Is uncoated fiberglass affected by UV?
 
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
I'll bet you're absolutely a stitch at a party. Of course I doubt if you
still get invited to any, if your pedantic outlook on everything pervades
your social intercourse with others. You, no doubt, are the guy others tend
to ignore, or talk about behind your back: "That Neal Warren is such an
asshole--always spouting off about how everyone is wrong and he's right . .
." Most likely you sit and home with the inflatable doll, telling "her" all
about how the rest of the world is stupid. And of course her response is:
"hisssssssssssss."


The last time Neal got laid without cash changing hands was during the
Eisenhower administration. The last time he got an invitation was
probably when he managed to graduate from Jr. High.
--
Capt. JG @@
www.sailnow.com



[email protected] March 14th 07 01:48 PM

Is uncoated fiberglass affected by UV?
 

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote
fi·ber·glass \-'glas\ n : glass in fibrous form used in making various
products (as insulation)


2- a structure or product of laminated composite using silica filament
(glass in fibrous form) in a plastic resin.

If your dictionary doesn't include the second definition, then you
should throw it away & go buy a real dictionary.

http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/fibreglass

"Fiberglass or glassfibre is material made from extremely fine fibers
of glass. It is used as a reinforcing agent for many polymer products;
the resulting composite material, properly known as fiber-reinforced
polymer (FRP) or glass-reinforced plastic (GRP), is called
"fiberglass" in popular usage.

Glassmakers throughout history have experimented with glass fibers,
but mass manufacture of fiberglass was only made possible with the
advent of finer machine-tooling. In 1893, Edward Drummond Libbey
exhibited a dress at the World's Columbian Exposition incorporating
glass fibers with the diameter and texture of silk fibers. What is
commonly known as "fiberglass" today, however, was invented in 1938 by
Russell Games Slayter of Owens-Corning as a material to be used as
insulation. It is marketed under the trade name Fiberglas (sic), which
has become a genericized trademark."



Maprop wrote:
I'll bet you're absolutely a stitch at a party. .....
... Most likely you sit and home with the inflatable doll, telling "her" all
about how the rest of the world is stupid. And of course her response is:
"hisssssssssssss."


Don't you have anything better to do than to sit around & pontificate
on the shortcomings of the former Crapton?

DSK


Maxprop March 14th 07 02:33 PM

Is uncoated fiberglass affected by UV?
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article .net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Milton Waddams wrote:
Does uncoated fiberglass lose it's strength with long term exposure to
UV light? Should I cover it with paint or gelcoat? This is some wooden
thing I built and coated with cloth and resin. Thanks all,

Milton

Yes, you need to cover it. Fiberglass does degrade with UV
exposure. That's why you cover it.


Sorry Ganz, but fiberglass does NOT degrade because of UV exposure.
Glass
is proof against UV. It's not the glass that's the problem. It's the
resin
that binds the glass. Perhaps if you had not consumed mass quantities of
illegal drugs you would be able to demonstrate clear thinking once in a
while.


"Fiberglass" is synonymous with 'fiber-reinforced resin.' Jon was
referring
to the composite structure, of which a significant part is the resin. He
wasn't wrong, and you are a pedantic jerk.


Don't be too hard on Neal. He really can't help himself. He really
needs help... still obsessing about me after all these years. Quite
sad actually.

The best method to help him is to ignore him... but, I know that's
very difficult.


Impossible, actually. He's just too easy.

Max



Maxprop March 14th 07 02:36 PM

Is uncoated fiberglass affected by UV?
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
I'll bet you're absolutely a stitch at a party. Of course I doubt if you
still get invited to any, if your pedantic outlook on everything pervades
your social intercourse with others. You, no doubt, are the guy others
tend
to ignore, or talk about behind your back: "That Neal Warren is such an
asshole--always spouting off about how everyone is wrong and he's right .
.
." Most likely you sit and home with the inflatable doll, telling "her"
all
about how the rest of the world is stupid. And of course her response is:
"hisssssssssssss."


The last time Neal got laid without cash changing hands was during the
Eisenhower administration. The last time he got an invitation was
probably when he managed to graduate from Jr. High.


He's a very bright guy, actually. What he lacks in diplomacy, he makes up
for in pedantry and self-righteousness.


Max




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